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post #391 of 14851
No XBR 2 comparisons yet? Like many people, it's between this and the XBR2 for me. PQ is the big deal breaker for me. The Sammy LED is on the upper hand with the money I can save on maintinence.
post #392 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagaden View Post

Here we go, I received my HL-T6187S today and set her up. I definitely need more time with this set but initial impressions have me blown away. Some of the things that were important for me right off the bat and some pictures are attached of the set + on the 2007 TR500X3B stand.

The Good

Color and Picture
Wow. I was initially disappointed with the color of this set until I changed it to Movie mode and Warm 1. Most of my disappointment I found stemmed from DNIe being turned on. How they can market that thing as a "feature" is beyond me.

After those two minor adjustments the picture looks much better. My girlfriend commented "Wow, it looks 3d now!" which I've never EVER heard her say when watching anything. I'll be doing an Avia and DVE tweak this coming weekend so I can only imagine how much better it'll look.

Black level on VGA, Component looks pitch black to me out of the box. Like it matches the piano black bezel with the lights off.

I'm very pleased.

Banding
I didn't notice any out of the ordinary with VGA, Standard Definition, DVD's, and Component Wii/PS2 on any mode I fiddled with. I don't have a PS3 or Xbox yet but I'm sure the picture quality is worlds better. My initial impression is that this set corrects the problem I've read with last years 5679's.

VGA
Text, color, everything looks fantastic in VGA mode at 1920x1080P. Holy crap, this is what I was looking for. As you can tell by the pics I enjoy my gaming

The Bad

VGA Underscan
To my surprise VGA is underscanned in 1920x1080P mode by about 3% on top and 5% on the sides. Mine was off-center also but was nothing a quick visit to Advanced options in the Geforce menu didn't cover. I was expecting overscan to the frame. I'll tweak it later this week.

Rainbows
These are NOT the traditional type of lamp rainbows, and I haven't seen them talked about on here yet. They only appear (very faintly) on nearly entire black backgrounds with a single image. The Windows XP screen is a good test but I've also seen them on the Wii and PS2 once or twice. There are two of them, both about 2/3rds of the way down the screen in the middle and spaced about 6 inches apart.

It looks as if some very small portion of light is interfering (potentially the blue LED?) with the black in the image.

I'd like to know if anyone else has seen this on their set. It's not distracting but my gf and I can see them if we look but most of the time during dark or completely black scenes they are not there at all. I'll try to capture an image of it later this week on the Windows XP startup screen. This is the only place I can see it consistently.

High Definition Material
I'm a high definition noob. I figured I could get HD channels directly from the Time Warner coaxial cable uhh... well they don't come in and I'm not sure how to set them up. My options when scanning channels are Analog/Digital and STD, HDC, and IRC for each. Maybe I need a set top box or maybe I just set them up wrong.

Any assistance would be helpful. I'd like to see Planet Earth in HD

2048x 1536 Pictures
Layout
Desktop
Gf playing Paper Mario on Wii
Gamecube Super Smash Bros in default Dynamic (you can see the very blue default picture here)

Wow, you dont have any HD content to put on it ??? What a shame. Great pics/review though! I look forward to buying mine soon.
post #393 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagaden View Post

Here we go, I received my HL-T6187S today and set her up. I definitely need more time with this set but initial impressions have me blown away. Some of the things that were important for me right off the bat and some pictures are attached of the set + on the 2007 TR500X3B stand.

Special thanks for the pics. Looking forward to hearing about HD once you get it up and running, and would love to see some pics at that point as well.
post #394 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by edpsx View Post

Wow, you dont have any HD content to put on it ??? What a shame. Great pics/review though! I look forward to buying mine soon.

Yeah, nothing 1080p except VGA, which looks pretty mind blowing. I can read 8 point font from 10 feet away. I'll be purchasing an antenna for OTA HD but I really only wanted to watch Planet Earth. I was tempted on buying a PS3 this past weekend but am holding off for a bit. The Blue Ray advantage has me wanting it over an Xbox 360.

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Originally Posted by EBee View Post

Special thanks for the pics. Looking forward to hearing about HD once you get it up and running, and would love to see some pics at that point as well.

My pleasure EBee I'll post more when I get some HD feeds going for sure. More immediately I'm on a hunt to photograph that weird rainbow that pops up here and there on black images (with a logo or similar). This is definitely not a dealbreaker for me but can be distracting if given the proper circumstances to bring it about.

I took some photos of the set in daylight with the blinds open but they totally didn't do the set justice. Even with the blinds open on both sides of the room it didn't seem to diminish the picture quality at all. This set is really bright. I'll probably tone it down some as I settle in with it.

I've added my SSE and SDE first impressions in my post up there. Two more personally important points for me to judge for this set.
post #395 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagaden View Post

Here we go, I received my HL-T6187S today and set her up. I definitely need more time with this set but initial impressions have me blown away. Some of the things that were important for me right off the bat and some pictures are attached of the set + on the 2007 TR500X3B stand.

The Good

Color and Picture
Wow. I was initially disappointed with the color of this set until I changed it to Movie mode and Warm 1. Most of my disappointment I found stemmed from DNIe being turned on. How they can market that thing as a "feature" is beyond me.

After those two minor adjustments the picture looks much better. My girlfriend commented "Wow, it looks 3d now!" which I've never EVER heard her say when watching anything. I'll be doing an Avia and DVE tweak this coming weekend so I can only imagine how much better it'll look.

Black level on VGA, Component looks pitch black to me out of the box. Like it matches the piano black bezel with the lights off.

I'm very pleased.

Banding
I didn't notice any out of the ordinary with VGA, Standard Definition, DVD's, and Component Wii/PS2 on any mode I fiddled with. I don't have a PS3 or Xbox yet but I'm sure the picture quality is worlds better. My initial impression is that this set corrects the problem I've read with last years 5679's.

VGA
Text, color, everything looks fantastic in VGA mode at 1920x1080P. Holy crap, this is what I was looking for. As you can tell by the pics I enjoy my gaming

The Bad

VGA Underscan
To my surprise VGA is underscanned in 1920x1080P mode by about 3% on top and 5% on the sides. Mine was off-center also but was nothing a quick visit to Advanced options in the Geforce menu didn't cover. I was expecting overscan to the frame. I'll tweak it later this week.

Rainbows
These are NOT the traditional type of lamp rainbows, and I haven't seen them talked about on here yet. They only appear (very faintly) on nearly entire black backgrounds with a single image. The Windows XP screen is a good test but I've also seen them on the Wii and PS2 once or twice. There are two of them, both about 2/3rds of the way down the screen in the middle and spaced about 6 inches apart.

It looks as if some very small portion of light is interfering (potentially the blue LED?) with the black in the image.

I'd like to know if anyone else has seen this on their set. It's not distracting but my gf and I can see them if we look but most of the time during dark or completely black scenes they are not there at all. I'll try to capture an image of it later this week on the Windows XP startup screen. This is the only place I can see it consistently.

High Definition Material
I'm a high definition noob. I figured I could get HD channels directly from the Time Warner coaxial cable uhh... well they don't come in and I'm not sure how to set them up. My options when scanning channels are Analog/Digital and STD, HDC, and IRC for each. Maybe I need a set top box or maybe I just set them up wrong.

Any assistance would be helpful. I'd like to see Planet Earth in HD

2048x 1536 Pictures
Layout
Desktop
Gf playing Paper Mario on Wii
Gamecube Super Smash Bros in default Dynamic (you can see the very blue default picture here)

Nice job...now get a 360 with gears of war on there! or maybe a ps3 with a nice blu ray movie.
post #396 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagaden View Post

Here we go, I received my HL-T6187S today and set her up. I definitely need more time with this set but initial impressions have me blown away. Some of the things that were important for me right off the bat and some pictures are attached of the set + on the 2007 TR500X3B stand.

The Good

Color and Picture
Wow. I was initially disappointed with the color of this set until I changed it to Movie mode and Warm 1. Most of my disappointment I found stemmed from DNIe being turned on. How they can market that thing as a "feature" is beyond me.

After those two minor adjustments the picture looks much better. My girlfriend commented "Wow, it looks 3d now!" which I've never EVER heard her say when watching anything. I'll be doing an Avia and DVE tweak this coming weekend so I can only imagine how much better it'll look.

Black level on VGA, Component looks pitch black to me out of the box. Like it matches the piano black bezel with the lights off.

I'm very pleased.

Banding
I didn't notice any out of the ordinary with VGA, Standard Definition, DVD's, and Component Wii/PS2 on any mode I fiddled with. I don't have a PS3 or Xbox yet but I'm sure the picture quality is worlds better. My initial impression is that this set corrects the problem I've read with last years 5679's.

VGA
Text, color, everything looks fantastic in VGA mode at 1920x1080P. Holy crap, this is what I was looking for. As you can tell by the pics I enjoy my gaming

The Bad

VGA Underscan
To my surprise VGA is underscanned in 1920x1080P mode by about 3% on top and 5% on the sides. Mine was off-center also but was nothing a quick visit to Advanced options in the Geforce menu didn't cover. I was expecting overscan to the frame. I'll tweak it later this week.

Rainbows
These are NOT the traditional type of lamp rainbows, and I haven't seen them talked about on here yet. They only appear (very faintly) on nearly entire black backgrounds with a single image. The Windows XP screen is a good test but I've also seen them on the Wii and PS2 once or twice. There are two of them, both about 2/3rds of the way down the screen in the middle and spaced about 6 inches apart.

It looks as if some very small portion of light is interfering (potentially the blue LED?) with the black in the image.

I'd like to know if anyone else has seen this on their set. It's not distracting but my gf and I can see them if we look but most of the time during dark or completely black scenes they are not there at all. I'll try to capture an image of it later this week on the Windows XP startup screen. This is the only place I can see it consistently.

High Definition Material
I'm a high definition noob. I figured I could get HD channels directly from the Time Warner coaxial cable uhh... well they don't come in and I'm not sure how to set them up. My options when scanning channels are Analog/Digital and STD, HDC, and IRC for each. Maybe I need a set top box or maybe I just set them up wrong.

Any assistance would be helpful. I'd like to see Planet Earth in HD

2048x 1536 Pictures
Layout
Desktop
Gf playing Paper Mario on Wii
Gamecube Super Smash Bros in default Dynamic (you can see the very blue default picture here)


Thanks for the info so far. Just wondering, where was that picture of your desktop(Lake pic) taken at?
post #397 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagaden View Post

High Definition Material
I'm a high definition noob. I figured I could get HD channels directly from the Time Warner coaxial cable uhh... well they don't come in and I'm not sure how to set them up. My options when scanning channels are Analog/Digital and STD, HDC, and IRC for each. Maybe I need a set top box or maybe I just set them up wrong.

Any assistance would be helpful. I'd like to see Planet Earth in HD

First, thank you very much for the spending the time to post your impressions. Owners threads would be far more useful if every new owner took the care that you did in your review.

You'll need the STB/DVR to get the Discovery Channel -- as that is probably encrypted -- but you may be able to get ABC, CBS, FOX, and NBC to check out their primetime lineup in high-definition.

Perform a scan for DIGITAL and STD. Note the QAM channel numbers may seem a bit irregular to you (such as 87-3 for ABC, 98-5 for CBS, etc) if TWC doesn't include PSIP information for channel remapping. You'll have to scroll through the channels to determine what is what. When you get a STB/DVR, it remaps those QAM channels to more intuitive numbers.
post #398 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juan View Post

Thanks for the info so far. Just wondering, where was that picture of your desktop(Lake pic) taken at?

Egypt, unfortunately I haven't been there myself. It's beautiful though, I picked it up here.

Sunset in Egypt
by satyros

April 8th, 2007
A sunset in egypt (red sea). No color manipulation!
post #399 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by slaizer2000 View Post

IHopefully newegg gets my 1.3 HDMI cables here on Thursday so I can play with the TV/ps3/hd DVR hdmi cable box.

I hope you didn't pay extra for "HDMI 1.3" cables because you almost surely don't need them (yet). You can continue to use any HDMI cables you already have, or whatever reasonably priced cables you can find from Monoprice (or NewEgg). I'm just saying, there's no need to get a "HDMI 1.3" cable at this time unless you are actually shipping something that requires HDMI 1.3 (such as a deep color source - don't exist yet - or shipping encoded True HD over HDMI to a HDMI 1.3 receiver - don't exist yet either). Even in those cases, the existing cables may work perfectly well.

Just trying to save you a few bucks
post #400 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

First, thank you very much for the spending the time to post your impressions. Owners threads would be far more useful if every new owner took the care that you did in your review.

You'll need the STB/DVR to get the Discovery Channel -- as that is probably encrypted -- but you may be able to get ABC, CBS, FOX, and NBC to check out their primetime lineup in high-definition.

Perform a scan for DIGITAL and STD. Note the QAM channel numbers may seem a bit irregular to you (such as 87-3 for ABC, 98-5 for CBS, etc) if TWC doesn't include PSIP information for channel remapping. You'll have to scroll through the channels to determine what is what. When you get a STB/DVR, it remaps those QAM channels to more intuitive numbers.

Thanks bfdtv, this is really helpful. I found my HD channels by doing an IRC search of both Analog and Digital I have a handful of them or so including the regular broadcasts and a couple cable channels like comedy central. I didn't see discovery in HD though Boo, I hope it was just an oversight as I get discovery in standard definition just fine.

When we flipped to channel 7 we saw it was 720p and they were showing some news story with pretty low res video. Then when it was brought back to the channel 7's news room in 720p made my gf and I both "WOooooOW!" at the same time. I never figured I'd be impressed by the 5-day forcast... it took me a second to figure out what it said because I kept staring at the edges and composition. This is fantastic, I think I'm hooked. That PS3's sounding better every minute.
post #401 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2&2 View Post

You're not alone. I ordered one from Crutchfield, though I'm kicking myself after seeing the Vann's bundles. Hopefully their service and being only a state away from Crutchfield will get it to me faster, making it worth it. They ship from VA, right?


Im sure they ship anywhere in Continental United States. However, I didnt buy mine from Vann's or Crutchfield.
post #402 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagaden View Post

Here we go, I received my HL-T6187S today and set her up. I definitely need more time with this set but initial impressions have me blown away. Some of the things that were important for me right off the bat and some pictures are attached of the set + on the 2007 TR500X3B stand.

The Good

Color and Picture
Wow. I was initially disappointed with the color of this set until I changed it to Movie mode and Warm 1. Most of my disappointment I found stemmed from DNIe being turned on. How they can market that thing as a "feature" is beyond me.

After those two minor adjustments the picture looks much better. My girlfriend commented "Wow, it looks 3d now!" which I've never EVER heard her say when watching anything. I'll be doing an Avia and DVE tweak this coming weekend so I can only imagine how much better it'll look.

Black level on VGA, Component looks pitch black to me out of the box. Like it matches the piano black bezel with the lights off.

I'm very pleased.

Banding
I didn't notice any out of the ordinary with VGA, Standard Definition, DVD's, and Component Wii/PS2 on any mode I fiddled with. I don't have a PS3 or Xbox yet but I'm sure the picture quality is worlds better. My initial impression is that this set corrects the problem I've read with last years 5679's.

VGA
Text, color, everything looks fantastic in VGA mode at 1920x1080P. Holy crap, this is what I was looking for. As you can tell by the pics I enjoy my gaming

Silk Screen Effect & Screen Door Effect
I'm very sensitive to SSE and SDE from my old set the Sony KL-W9000. Thankfully, this set is a huge improvement for me. As well it should be, being that the KL-W9000 technology is almost 10 years old now

SSE:
I can see some light silk screen "shimmering" on bright solid colors if I'm under 5 feet from the set. It looks very fine and uniform. When I'm 7-10 feet it's negligible. This is a personal opinion, I'm used to far worse and far more distracting Silk Screen on my display. Gf is playing Paper Mario right now with the lights off in 480p and intense solid colors look great and uniform against each other.

On a side note, I'm really surprised with how much better the Wii games look in 480p. I wasn't expecting this much of an improvement over S-Video.

SDE:
No visible pixel structure means no Screen Door Effect. I'm in love.

The Bad

VGA Underscan
To my surprise VGA is underscanned in 1920x1080P mode by about 3% on top and 5% on the sides. Mine was off-center also but was nothing a quick visit to Advanced options in the Geforce menu didn't cover. I was expecting overscan to the frame. I'll tweak it later this week.

Rainbows
These are NOT the traditional type of lamp rainbows, and I haven't seen them talked about on here yet. They only appear (very faintly) on nearly entire black backgrounds with a single image. The Windows XP screen is a good test but I've also seen them on the Wii and PS2 once or twice. There are two of them, both about 2/3rds of the way down the screen in the middle and spaced about 6 inches apart.

It looks as if some very small portion of light is interfering (potentially the blue LED?) with the black in the image.

I'd like to know if anyone else has seen this on their set. It's not distracting but my gf and I can see them if we look but most of the time during dark or completely black scenes they are not there at all. I'll try to capture an image of it later this week on the Windows XP startup screen. This is the only place I can see it consistently.

High Definition Material
I'm a high definition noob. I figured I could get HD channels directly from the Time Warner coaxial cable uhh... well they don't come in and I'm not sure how to set them up. My options when scanning channels are Analog/Digital and STD, HDC, and IRC for each. Maybe I need a set top box or maybe I just set them up wrong.

Any assistance would be helpful. I'd like to see Planet Earth in HD

2048x 1536 Pictures
Layout
Desktop
Gf playing Paper Mario on Wii
Gamecube Super Smash Bros in default Dynamic (you can see the very blue default picture here)

More pictures that looks sexy I'm turned on right now
post #403 of 14851
When my tv finally arrives, should I just buy a calibration disc and calibrate myself ?
post #404 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagaden View Post

Here we go, I received my HL-T6187S today and set her up. I definitely need more time with this set but initial impressions have me blown away. Some of the things that were important for me right off the bat and some pictures are attached of the set + on the 2007 TR500X3B stand.

Thank you for the detailed review! How's the geometry of this set? 4x3 pincushion? Tilt?

Thanks again!
post #405 of 14851
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Originally Posted by nash0r View Post

I hope you didn't pay extra for "HDMI 1.3" cables because you almost surely don't need them (yet). You can continue to use any HDMI cables you already have, or whatever reasonably priced cables you can find from Monoprice (or NewEgg). I'm just saying, there's no need to get a "HDMI 1.3" cable at this time unless you are actually shipping something that requires HDMI 1.3 (such as a deep color source - don't exist yet - or shipping encoded True HD over HDMI to a HDMI 1.3 receiver - don't exist yet either). Even in those cases, the existing cables may work perfectly well.

Just trying to save you a few bucks

I debated this for quite a few days. And I do agree most likely for HDMI digital cables it either works or not. But after paying 600 for ps3 and 2900 for the TV I ended up going with somewhat more expensive cables. For the PS3 to HDTV connection I went with the Sony PS3 1.3 HDMI cable (49.99), for the Cable box I wnet for the Nyko PS3 HDMI cable (24.99) and then I got the cheaper AWG 35 foot DVI to HDMI cable for the computer to HDTV. Yes more than I wanted to pay but I figured I'd future proof the cables to ensure they are 1.3 compatible. I will actually test the Sony and Nyko cables on the PS3 to see if there is any difference. MY bro has an HDMI cable that came with his upscaling DVD palyer. I will still that this weekend while he is away and will see if there is no difference. More than likley no difference but I gotta figure the pricier cable may stand up better over time. Although I know I don't plan on unplugging then and pluggin then in so it probably won't matter. I figured 120 dollars for all 3 cables isn't bad compared to the 3500 dollars for the PS3 and HDTV. Not to mention the 30 some blu-ray movies and 7 ps3 games I got.

I will give feedback on the HDMI cables once I've had chance to play with them to see which works best.
post #406 of 14851
Kagaden, do you have any way of determining what version of HDMI the set has? And is Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC) listed anywhere in the menus?

Thanks in advance!
post #407 of 14851
I ordered my HLT6189S from ABT the day everyone started talking about them being available. I appreciate the info. Got the TV and stand on Monday. The TV felt very light, maybe 30 pounds (even though it is supposed to weigh a lot more). The stand felt like 100 pounds. I have my Xbox and Wii hooked up to it and both look really good. I only noticed a little dimming at the top of the set when I was sitting in the floor playing a game. But sitting on a couch looking straight on I had no issues what so ever. Cooking Mama is the best game I have seen on it so far. Crystal clear and many details and tectures are showing up that weren't before. I ran auto program on the channels and got about ten HD channels that look amazing. It also found a bunch of music channels that I couldn't pick up on my other TVs. It added a bunch of scrambled channels and too many favorites, so I've had to go through and edit them a lot. The aspect ratio seems to be adjusting itself depending on the source, so I have just left that alone. The first day or two I was changing it from 4:3 to 16:9 then noticed that depending on the channel, it was changing back and forth. Don't know what's up with that. But anyway, I am very please overall. I hope to get a PS3 within a week or two and run HDMI to the TV and optical to my receiver so I can watch my NIN:BSYIT Blu-Ray in all its glory. The HDMI should get the 1080p to the TV and since the DolbyTrueHD is decoded in the PS3, this will be assed via optical to my receiver. Can't wait. Hope everyone else is enjoying their TVs. I appreciate all the information this forum has provided. Keep up the great work!
post #408 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by MemnochHLT6189S View Post

. I ran auto program on the channels and got about ten HD channels that look amazing. It also found a bunch of music channels that I couldn't pick up on my other TVs. It added a bunch of scrambled channels and too many favorites, so I've had to go through and edit them a lot.


Did you have to use a cable box in order to get the HD stations? Or did the Tv handle them without a cable or satellite box?
post #409 of 14851
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Originally Posted by slaizer2000 View Post

I pulled the trigger last friday for the hl-t6189s.


Tv arrive one day early. FedEX Freight called me at 7am this morning stating the package arrived 1 day early and they had a delivery cancellation so he could deliver it in 15 minutes. FEdEX guy helped me carry the TV into my apartment since I didn't have anyone to help me since it arrived 1 day early.

TV felt very light. Can't wait to play with it and see how well it works. Only problem now is my HDMI cables don't arrive till tomorrow and since I took tomorrow off to wait for the package at home I have to sit here at work all day dreaming of playing with the TV.

I will post some pics as soon as I figure out how to.
post #410 of 14851
Are the xx89 sets wall mountable like plasmas, etc? I saw "Slim" and hoped they might be.
post #411 of 14851
Their not that SLIM.

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Originally Posted by jojoxl View Post

Are the xx89 sets wall mountable like plasmas, etc? I saw "Slim" and hoped they might be.
post #412 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilkevinli View Post

Their not that SLIM.


Actually, all of the promotional materials out on this line of Samsung TVs indicate otherwise and explicitly state that the sets have the capability of being wall-mounted.

Can the current owners of this line comment on the design and if Samsung has put any effort into the exterior casing that would ASSIST in wall-mounting? At a max of 75 pounds, it is not out of the realm of possibility...
post #413 of 14851
I have been looking to get the HLT6189S, but with the recent increase in price, have been looking at the HLT6176S or the HLT6187S.

I do not see a real difference in these models between each other, besides bluetooth capability and PIP on the 89S model, which doesn't mean much to me.

Does anyone else out here know a glaring difference I am missing?
post #414 of 14851
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Originally Posted by spideyct View Post

I have been looking to get the HLT6189S, but with the recent increase in price, have been looking at the HLT6176S or the HLT6187S.

I do not see a real difference in these models between each other, besides bluetooth capability and PIP on the 89S model, which doesn't mean much to me.

Does anyone else out here know a glaring difference I am missing?

Dunno if it's glaring, but it appears that the 89S has HDMI 1.3 and the 87S does not.

Besides that, I'd like to know any large differences as well. I'm leaning toward the 87S if these are the only differences.
post #415 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by heavyobjects View Post

Actually, all of the promotional materials out on this line of Samsung TVs indicate otherwise and explicitly state that the sets have the capability of being wall-mounted.

Can the current owners of this line comment on the design and if Samsung has put any effort into the exterior casing that would ASSIST in wall-mounting? At a max of 75 pounds, it is not out of the realm of possibility...


I don't know the weight but its light enough to pick up by yourself if it wasn't so large. With a good heavy piece of wall mounting h/w properly bolted to the studs it most likely would work.

I prefer the stand, never know when the wall mounts might give and you come home to find the Tv smashed on the floor.
post #416 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by slaizer2000 View Post

Did you have to use a cable box in order to get the HD stations? Or did the Tv handle them without a cable or satellite box?

I have a cable cord coming from my wall to the back of the TV, no cable box.
post #417 of 14851
OK, don't thrown stones at me here. Just trying to be helpful and make sure we don't lose our thread. I, too, had to learn from others, so I'm just trying to pass that along.

First, AVS prefers that price and where to buy discussions not take place in the threads. If you want to discuss those, send a private message to whom you want to discuss those items with. It isn't my rule but supposedly AVS will shutdown threads that go overboard on price discussions.

Second, when quoting other posts, you can edit out lengthy sections. It makes it easier for everyone to read rather than seeing the same long post repeated over and over. It also cuts down on storage space for the AVS folks. They provide this site "free" to most of us, so that helps reduce their costs as well.

Again, just passing along things I've learned from lurking here for two years now.
post #418 of 14851
I just purchased my HL-T6189S from Advanced Video and Sound through Amazon. They had a decent price but the sets are not in stock yet. They won't get a shipment in until April 22.

Now I get to sit on the edge of my chair for the next two weeks.
post #419 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by spideyct View Post

I have been looking to get the HLT6189S, but with the recent increase in price, have been looking at the HLT6176S or the HLT6187S.

I do not see a real difference in these models between each other, besides bluetooth capability and PIP on the 89S model, which doesn't mean much to me.

Does anyone else out here know a glaring difference I am missing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by EBee View Post

Dunno if it's glaring, but it appears that the 89S has HDMI 1.3 and the 87S does not.

Besides that, I'd like to know any large differences as well. I'm leaning toward the 87S if these are the only differences.

Yes, I noticed that as well, but am unsure if there is anything else that is different.

Hopefully, someone else can shed some light on this too.
post #420 of 14851
Quote:
Originally Posted by heavyobjects View Post

Actually, all of the promotional materials out on this line of Samsung TVs indicate otherwise and explicitly state that the sets have the capability of being wall-mounted.

Can the current owners of this line comment on the design and if Samsung has put any effort into the exterior casing that would ASSIST in wall-mounting? At a max of 75 pounds, it is not out of the realm of possibility...

Nothing in any of the manuals mentions wall mounting or foot removal and 4" clearance to wall is still required.
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