Is buying the 89 over the 87 worth the couple of extra hundred dollars it would cost me?
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8/14/07 at 10:17am
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8/14/07 at 10:24am
Right now, I have a very large Cerwin Vega! centre channel on the floor. It's angled upwards by resting on a wide black hole punch! The TV itself stands on a low, very wide entertainment rack/cabinet.
The speaker is too tall, resting on its side, to put in front of the TV, because it'd block an inch of the picture.
With a solution in mind, I went to Ikea this weekend. There I picked up a 110 cm x 40 cm coffee table for $25.
I didn't screw on the legs, but instead used the thick tabletop as a platform to raise my TV those extra 2". I then put the speaker in front of the TV. It looked ugly, spoiling the clean lines of the TV. Still, function before form, I grabbed my Harmony 880 and turned everything on; I wanted to hear how it now sounded.
Oops! Samsung just happened to put the IR receiver in the dead centre of the TV set. The speaker obscured this and rendered the remote useless. Now I have to return the coffee table, or get an IR repeater. Instead, I think I'm going to get a small table for the speaker, so it's off the floor. I'll have to saw the legs down somewhat to make it the right height, but I think it could work. I have a lot going on right now, so it's not a priority.
The speaker is back on the floor, hole punch and all. Thankfully the speaker is so big that the hole punch isn't visible!
The speaker is too tall, resting on its side, to put in front of the TV, because it'd block an inch of the picture.
With a solution in mind, I went to Ikea this weekend. There I picked up a 110 cm x 40 cm coffee table for $25.
I didn't screw on the legs, but instead used the thick tabletop as a platform to raise my TV those extra 2". I then put the speaker in front of the TV. It looked ugly, spoiling the clean lines of the TV. Still, function before form, I grabbed my Harmony 880 and turned everything on; I wanted to hear how it now sounded.
Oops! Samsung just happened to put the IR receiver in the dead centre of the TV set. The speaker obscured this and rendered the remote useless. Now I have to return the coffee table, or get an IR repeater. Instead, I think I'm going to get a small table for the speaker, so it's off the floor. I'll have to saw the legs down somewhat to make it the right height, but I think it could work. I have a lot going on right now, so it's not a priority.
The speaker is back on the floor, hole punch and all. Thankfully the speaker is so big that the hole punch isn't visible!
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Originally Posted by blizz81 
For those of you with home stereos, what have you done in regards to the center channel with this TV?
I was pondering using a Omnimount CCH shelf to mount my MB Quart center channel on top of the TV, but now that I have my TV and I see how lightweight the shell is & how little pressure can effect the geometry, I'm afraid that the weight of my speaker will be too much of an issue.
The two other options I can think of are to use a speaker stand behind the TV or to put it on the floor and angle it upwards. Unfortunately, I only have about 7" of space behind the TV on my tv stand at the max, and it would need to be about 3' high to clear the top of the TV...which would be a tough combo given the weight/size of the speaker.
Does anyone have any other novel ideas? For those that angle their center chans upwards, how is the sound?
For those of you with home stereos, what have you done in regards to the center channel with this TV?
I was pondering using a Omnimount CCH shelf to mount my MB Quart center channel on top of the TV, but now that I have my TV and I see how lightweight the shell is & how little pressure can effect the geometry, I'm afraid that the weight of my speaker will be too much of an issue.
The two other options I can think of are to use a speaker stand behind the TV or to put it on the floor and angle it upwards. Unfortunately, I only have about 7" of space behind the TV on my tv stand at the max, and it would need to be about 3' high to clear the top of the TV...which would be a tough combo given the weight/size of the speaker.
Does anyone have any other novel ideas? For those that angle their center chans upwards, how is the sound?
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8/14/07 at 10:27am
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Is buying the 89 over the 87 worth the couple of extra hundred dollars it would cost me?
Is buying the 89 over the 87 worth the couple of extra hundred dollars it would cost me?
It's a small difference, but for me it wasn't worth it. None of the features the 89 had over the 87 would be necessary for me. If you have a home theatre receiver and an HTPC, there's not much that the 89 adds over the 87.
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8/14/07 at 10:29am
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Is buying the 89 over the 87 worth the couple of extra hundred dollars it would cost me?
Is buying the 89 over the 87 worth the couple of extra hundred dollars it would cost me?
Your wallet is going to be the judge here. I always figure, you're never sorry getting the best model if it's affordable. You won't say "damn I wish my set had ___." If the difference is more than a couple of hundred, that money can go to some other important things, a stand, HD DVD player etc. Then you get a complete package for the cost of the higher model. There is very little difference in picture performance between the 87 and 89, so it's mostly cosmetic/add ons. Go down the feature list and judge it. Some HAVE said te 87 has HDMI 1.3, but Samsung doesn't officially say that. It would be nice if they clarify this important feature. Good luck with your choice!
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8/14/07 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by mikeynavy1
No...actually to do the focus adjustment, you'll need one person to go to the back of the TV and open it up to gain accessibility to the light engine. On the light engine...near the lens is a small dial. Someone else will need to be at the front of the TV with it on to direct the person in back which way to go with the focus dial. That is what was done for the HL-S...someone there even posted pictures of what to do. Look in the HLS XX87/88 techlinks thread.
No...actually to do the focus adjustment, you'll need one person to go to the back of the TV and open it up to gain accessibility to the light engine. On the light engine...near the lens is a small dial. Someone else will need to be at the front of the TV with it on to direct the person in back which way to go with the focus dial. That is what was done for the HL-S...someone there even posted pictures of what to do. Look in the HLS XX87/88 techlinks thread.
Right. I looked at that thread and saw the pics (the ones that were taken on a workbench with someone wearing gloves) but that was for the HL-S. Im asking if it is the same on the HL-T LED models which is what I have. I just don't want to crack it open and start mucking around if that knob isnt even present on my TV
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8/14/07 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by fitbrit
Right now, I have a very large Cerwin Vega! centre channel on the floor. It's angled upwards by resting on a wide black hole punch! The TV itself stands on a low, very wide entertainment rack/cabinet.
The speaker is too tall, resting on its side, to put in front of the TV, because it'd block an inch of the picture.
With a solution in mind, I went to Ikea this weekend. There I picked up a 110 cm x 40 cm coffee table for $25.
I didn't screw on the legs, but instead used the thick tabletop as a platform to raise my TV those extra 2". I then put the speaker in front of the TV. It looked ugly, spoiling the clean lines of the TV. Still, function before form, I grabbed my Harmony 880 and turned everything on; I wanted to hear how it now sounded.
Oops! Samsung just happened to put the IR receiver in the dead centre of the TV set. The speaker obscured this and rendered the remote useless. Now I have to return the coffee table, or get an IR repeater. Instead, I think I'm going to get a small table for the speaker, so it's off the floor. I'll have to saw the legs down somewhat to make it the right height, but I think it could work. I have a lot going on right now, so it's not a priority.
The speaker is back on the floor, hole punch and all. Thankfully the speaker is so big that the hole punch isn't visible!
Right now, I have a very large Cerwin Vega! centre channel on the floor. It's angled upwards by resting on a wide black hole punch! The TV itself stands on a low, very wide entertainment rack/cabinet.
The speaker is too tall, resting on its side, to put in front of the TV, because it'd block an inch of the picture.
With a solution in mind, I went to Ikea this weekend. There I picked up a 110 cm x 40 cm coffee table for $25.
I didn't screw on the legs, but instead used the thick tabletop as a platform to raise my TV those extra 2". I then put the speaker in front of the TV. It looked ugly, spoiling the clean lines of the TV. Still, function before form, I grabbed my Harmony 880 and turned everything on; I wanted to hear how it now sounded.
Oops! Samsung just happened to put the IR receiver in the dead centre of the TV set. The speaker obscured this and rendered the remote useless. Now I have to return the coffee table, or get an IR repeater. Instead, I think I'm going to get a small table for the speaker, so it's off the floor. I'll have to saw the legs down somewhat to make it the right height, but I think it could work. I have a lot going on right now, so it's not a priority.
The speaker is back on the floor, hole punch and all. Thankfully the speaker is so big that the hole punch isn't visible!
Thanks for the input. Does it sound ok angled like that as opposed to say, the center channel head-on or slightly above head-on?
That's probably what I'll end up doing - a small stand/table just to keep it off the floor with it angled upwards a bit (maybe with a wedge-type piece of wood as described in the other post above). Unfortunately, on my TV stand, I have my receiver on the bottom shelf and that would obscure it quite a bit...if that ends up a big problem I suppose I could take off the doors on the side cabinets and put it in one of those.
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8/14/07 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by joe221
Your wallet is going to be the judge here. I always figure, you're never sorry getting the best model if it's affordable. You won't say "damn I wish my set had ___." If the difference is more than a couple of hundred, that money can go to some other important things, a stand, HD DVD player etc. Then you get a complete package for the cost of the higher model. There is very little difference in picture performance between the 87 and 89, so it's mostly cosmetic/add ons. Go down the feature list and judge it. Some HAVE said te 87 has HDMI 1.3, but Samsung doesn't officially say that. It would be nice if they clarify this important feature. Good luck with your choice!
Your wallet is going to be the judge here. I always figure, you're never sorry getting the best model if it's affordable. You won't say "damn I wish my set had ___." If the difference is more than a couple of hundred, that money can go to some other important things, a stand, HD DVD player etc. Then you get a complete package for the cost of the higher model. There is very little difference in picture performance between the 87 and 89, so it's mostly cosmetic/add ons. Go down the feature list and judge it. Some HAVE said te 87 has HDMI 1.3, but Samsung doesn't officially say that. It would be nice if they clarify this important feature. Good luck with your choice!
Thanks for the responses everyone. I wish they would say which version of HDMI the 87 has b/c that is the one thing that i would like to have. I can do w/o the bluetooth, PIP and USB 2.0.
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8/14/07 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by blizz81
Thanks for the input. Does it sound ok angled like that as opposed to say, the center channel head-on or slightly above head-on?
That's probably what I'll end up doing - a small stand/table just to keep it off the floor with it angled upwards a bit (maybe with a wedge-type piece of wood as described in the other post above). Unfortunately, on my TV stand, I have my receiver on the bottom shelf and that would obscure it quite a bit...if that ends up a big problem I suppose I could take off the doors on the side cabinets and put it in one of those.
Thanks for the input. Does it sound ok angled like that as opposed to say, the center channel head-on or slightly above head-on?
That's probably what I'll end up doing - a small stand/table just to keep it off the floor with it angled upwards a bit (maybe with a wedge-type piece of wood as described in the other post above). Unfortunately, on my TV stand, I have my receiver on the bottom shelf and that would obscure it quite a bit...if that ends up a big problem I suppose I could take off the doors on the side cabinets and put it in one of those.
It sounds fine where it is, but that's because the hole punch is $500-worth of audiophile quality! It actually dewobluficates the sound waves.
I'd like to compare it to an off the floor solution with the same speaker, so I can't say whether it will be improved or not.Another solution I'm considering is to build my own table. That way I can make the legs flush with the sides of the compartment that houses my HTPC, therefore not obscuring access to the USB slots etc. on the front of the case.
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8/14/07 at 1:54pm
Well, I'm the latest proud owner of the 5689S, courtesy of Samsung replacing my 5679W. Out of the box, I was really disappointed in this set. But I ran HD DVE and got my HDMI inputs looking gorgeous. For component, it looked best if I reset the Movie mode settings and just upped the brightess a little. So far, I'm quite pleased, although the grain of the screen itself seems far more noticeable on this TV than my old one. It's not a big deal. I still love this one for its shorter depth, narrower bezel and shorter distance from base to screen. It seems to put my eyes more in line with the center of the screen, thus negating the need for a lower stand. Here are my settings for HDMI:
Contrast: 82
Brightness: 63
Sharpness: 25
Color: 50
Tint: G47/R53
Color Tone: Normal
Detailed: Black Adjust Low, xvYCC Off
Contrast: 82
Brightness: 63
Sharpness: 25
Color: 50
Tint: G47/R53
Color Tone: Normal
Detailed: Black Adjust Low, xvYCC Off
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8/14/07 at 2:00pm
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For those of you with home stereos, what have you done in regards to the center channel with this TV?
For those of you with home stereos, what have you done in regards to the center channel with this TV?
We have a shelf above the TV (5687) that I place the center channel on and the receiver/DVD player/Dish unit as well - shelf is maybe 56-58" off the ground or so. The TV is on an Ikea coffee table (maybe 20" high) I bought YEARS ago (came unfinished originally, so I painted it). My Energy sub fits nicely under the table as well.
Seating position is about 15±ft away, and sound appears to be good so far.
We just moved in and have not had a chance to fine tune the audio/video yet. Haven't even changed the default setings on the TV picture! So darn busy....
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8/14/07 at 2:21pm
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What is the easiest calibration disc to work with and still get good results? Avia or DVE?
What is the easiest calibration disc to work with and still get good results? Avia or DVE?
Neither. GetGray is the easiest. GetGray Check out the thread: GetGray Thread. However, if you want to limit yourself to the two listed. AVIA is easiest just because DVE is so darn difficult to navigate.
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8/14/07 at 2:38pm
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Well, I'm the latest proud owner of the 5689S, courtesy of Samsung replacing my 5679W. Out of the box, I was really disappointed in this set. But I ran HD DVE and got my HDMI inputs looking gorgeous. For component, it looked best if I reset the Movie mode settings and just upped the brightess a little. So far, I'm quite pleased, although the grain of the screen itself seems far more noticeable on this TV than my old one. It's not a big deal. I still love this one for its shorter depth, narrower bezel and shorter distance from base to screen. It seems to put my eyes more in line with the center of the screen, thus negating the need for a lower stand. Here are my settings for HDMI:
Contrast: 82
Brightness: 63
Sharpness: 25
Color: 52
Tint: G47/R53
Color Tone: Normal
Detailed: xvYCC On
Well, I'm the latest proud owner of the 5689S, courtesy of Samsung replacing my 5679W. Out of the box, I was really disappointed in this set. But I ran HD DVE and got my HDMI inputs looking gorgeous. For component, it looked best if I reset the Movie mode settings and just upped the brightess a little. So far, I'm quite pleased, although the grain of the screen itself seems far more noticeable on this TV than my old one. It's not a big deal. I still love this one for its shorter depth, narrower bezel and shorter distance from base to screen. It seems to put my eyes more in line with the center of the screen, thus negating the need for a lower stand. Here are my settings for HDMI:
Contrast: 82
Brightness: 63
Sharpness: 25
Color: 52
Tint: G47/R53
Color Tone: Normal
Detailed: xvYCC On
So the regular menu items were sufficient in calibrating your machines (as opposed to going into the service menu and getting really technical)?
That was one of my main questions...along with "how easy is DVE to use?". I would want to use hd content to calibrate but given I can't find a bluray disc, I'd probably have to borrow an hd-dvd player from someone - hopefully it's easy enough that it doesn't take long and I could get it back to them the next day, etc.
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8/14/07 at 2:38pm
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For the questions now:
For the questions now:
The audio answers I'm going to give you are true for all TVs in the market at this time.
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I red somewhere on the topic (around page 147 ??) that the "DIGITAL AUDIO OUT (OPTICAL)" on the set only sent stereo digital sound ??
I red somewhere on the topic (around page 147 ??) that the "DIGITAL AUDIO OUT (OPTICAL)" on the set only sent stereo digital sound ??
That's true for any external source like a DVD player or game console.
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If I understand the manual correctly (page 16) it says : "5.1CH audio is possible when the TV is connected to an external device supporting 5.1CH."
If I understand the manual correctly (page 16) it says : "5.1CH audio is possible when the TV is connected to an external device supporting 5.1CH."
This is true if the source is the TV's internal TV tuner.
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So, according to the manual, if all sources connected to the TV set via HDMI, and a optical wire is connected to my receiver from the optical out from the TV, I should get 5.1 or 6.1 sound if available from a DVD player or any other source that has a 5.1 audio ?
So, according to the manual, if all sources connected to the TV set via HDMI, and a optical wire is connected to my receiver from the optical out from the TV, I should get 5.1 or 6.1 sound if available from a DVD player or any other source that has a 5.1 audio ?
That is not correct. To get 5.1 audio you can connect your input sources to your A/V receiver using HDMI, and then make one HDMI connection from your A/V receiver to the TV for video.
You can also connect all your input sources directly to the TV using HDMI for video, and make a separate digital audio connection from each input source to your A/V receiver using either a digital audio coax cable, or an optical cable.
Will ...
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the TV will upscale the 480i signal ?
the TV will upscale the 480i signal ?
Yes.
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8/14/07 at 2:58pm
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So the regular menu items were sufficient in calibrating your machines (as opposed to going into the service menu and getting really technical)? That was one of my main questions...along with "how easy is DVE to use?". I would want to use hd content to calibrate but given I can't find a bluray disc, I'd probably have to borrow an hd-dvd player from someone - hopefully it's easy enough that it doesn't take long and I could get it back to them the next day, etc.
So the regular menu items were sufficient in calibrating your machines (as opposed to going into the service menu and getting really technical)? That was one of my main questions...along with "how easy is DVE to use?". I would want to use hd content to calibrate but given I can't find a bluray disc, I'd probably have to borrow an hd-dvd player from someone - hopefully it's easy enough that it doesn't take long and I could get it back to them the next day, etc.
My TV looks pretty darn good after using DVE. I started with Eliab's recommended starter settings, then followed his DVE tutorial and ended up with what the settings I listed. I had experimented with DVE on my old TV, so I was pretty familiar with the menus, but when I first bought the HD DVE, I had to view the non-HD side first to even get any sort of understanding of the patterns.
I was using my Xbox 360 Elite's HD-DVD add-on to calibrate that HDMI input, then I used the same settings for the HDMI input I use for my PS3, and I was pleased with how it looked as well. Unfortunately, those settings kinda sucked on my component (for my DVR) so I reset them to factory defaults and actually liked it. I'll probably hook up my 360 via component to that input some other time so I may use DVE there as well. What I like about this TV is how you can adjust the screen position without going into the service menu and how Just Scan seems to be pretty much just like turning off the overscan in the service menu. Maybe someday I'll spend the money to have this TV pro-calibrated, but I'm pleased so far and can't wait until dark tonight so I can watch some movies in awe.
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8/14/07 at 3:01pm
I have owned the HL-T5689S for 4 months now. Overall, I really like the set but have been experiencing a problem and I wanted to see if anyone else can shed some light. I searched the forum but couldn't find anything.
The screen will go black for 2-3 seconds. When it comes back, the screen size changes from 16:9 to Just Scan and the picture setting changes from Standard to Dynamic.
Anyone else experience this?
Thanks in advance.
The screen will go black for 2-3 seconds. When it comes back, the screen size changes from 16:9 to Just Scan and the picture setting changes from Standard to Dynamic.
Anyone else experience this?
Thanks in advance.
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8/14/07 at 3:05pm
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I've got the Sound and Vision disc as well as the original Video Essentials. The S&V is fairly easy to work with and has served me well, the original VE is a pain to navigate because of the bizarre mixture of Titles and Chapters throughout. I used the S&V disc to calibrate my TV in a matter of minutes. I also have the HD DVE, the HD side is fairly straightforward. Through the menus you can see what the test image is and a description of how to use it.
I used the S&V disc using my Oppo 980 thorugh my Onkyo 875, and DVE on my Tosh HD-A2 also going through the Onkyo for upconversion to 1080p. Both showed me the same colors and I had no issues using either to get dialed in .
I used the S&V disc using my Oppo 980 thorugh my Onkyo 875, and DVE on my Tosh HD-A2 also going through the Onkyo for upconversion to 1080p. Both showed me the same colors and I had no issues using either to get dialed in .
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8/14/07 at 3:10pm
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I have owned the HL-T5689S for 4 months now. Overall, I really like the set but have been experiencing a problem and I wanted to see if anyone else can shed some light. I searched the forum but couldn't find anything.
The screen will go black for 2-3 seconds. When it comes back, the screen size changes from 16:9 to Just Scan and the picture setting changes from Standard to Dynamic.
Anyone else experience this?
Thanks in advance.
I have owned the HL-T5689S for 4 months now. Overall, I really like the set but have been experiencing a problem and I wanted to see if anyone else can shed some light. I searched the forum but couldn't find anything.
The screen will go black for 2-3 seconds. When it comes back, the screen size changes from 16:9 to Just Scan and the picture setting changes from Standard to Dynamic.
Anyone else experience this?
Thanks in advance.
It sounds like this:
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So, while I'm watching my hls5087w, it losses it's settings, for example, I'll set it to movie, dnie off etc, and it will just switch back to dynamic randomly after about 30 min. Anyone have a similar experience? It's driving me insane.
So, while I'm watching my hls5087w, it losses it's settings, for example, I'll set it to movie, dnie off etc, and it will just switch back to dynamic randomly after about 30 min. Anyone have a similar experience? It's driving me insane.
You are probably in "shop mode". Here is a link to instructions.
Get your HL-S TV out of "shop mode".
The Samsung HL-S DLP sets have "shop mode" to force the set back to Dynamic Mode when they are being used in showrooms. If some customer changes the menu settings, 30 minutes later those settings revert back to Samsung's desired showroom settings (Dynamic mode with DNIe ON, etc.).
Solution:
1. Power ON with the set displaying a normal image.
2. Press and hold the MENU button for five seconds. Use the Menu button on the TV's front panel, not the remote control.
The TV will blank for one second, and now be out of "shop mode". This mode can be toggled ON or OFF by repeating the steps. If you are out of "shop mode" the TV will "hold" it's video settings without automatically resetting every 30 minutes.
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8/14/07 at 3:45pm
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I know that avical does calibration, but is there a way to find a local company that does calibration as well? I am in the Washington DC area, so not local to the calibration experts that avical offers. Any information?
Thanks!
I know that avical does calibration, but is there a way to find a local company that does calibration as well? I am in the Washington DC area, so not local to the calibration experts that avical offers. Any information?
Thanks!
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I'm sure that Eliab of Avical does tours in your area every year. Ask him.
I'm sure that Eliab of Avical does tours in your area every year. Ask him.
utter23,
Htwaits is correct. Eliab has a Southeastern tour coming up in Sept ... just don't take my spot.
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8/14/07 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by blizz81
For those of you with home stereos, what have you done in regards to the center channel with this TV?
I was pondering using a Omnimount CCH shelf to mount my MB Quart center channel on top of the TV, but now that I have my TV and I see how lightweight the shell is & how little pressure can effect the geometry, I'm afraid that the weight of my speaker will be too much of an issue.
The two other options I can think of are to use a speaker stand behind the TV or to put it on the floor and angle it upwards. Unfortunately, I only have about 7" of space behind the TV on my tv stand at the max, and it would need to be about 3' high to clear the top of the TV...which would be a tough combo given the weight/size of the speaker.
Does anyone have any other novel ideas? For those that angle their center chans upwards, how is the sound?
For those of you with home stereos, what have you done in regards to the center channel with this TV?
I was pondering using a Omnimount CCH shelf to mount my MB Quart center channel on top of the TV, but now that I have my TV and I see how lightweight the shell is & how little pressure can effect the geometry, I'm afraid that the weight of my speaker will be too much of an issue.
The two other options I can think of are to use a speaker stand behind the TV or to put it on the floor and angle it upwards. Unfortunately, I only have about 7" of space behind the TV on my tv stand at the max, and it would need to be about 3' high to clear the top of the TV...which would be a tough combo given the weight/size of the speaker.
Does anyone have any other novel ideas? For those that angle their center chans upwards, how is the sound?
Try this
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8/14/07 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by htwaits
It sounds like this:
You are probably in "shop mode". Here is a link to instructions.
The Samsung HL-S DLP sets have "shop mode" to force the set back to Dynamic Mode when they are being used in showrooms. If some customer changes the menu settings, 30 minutes later those settings revert back to Samsung's desired showroom settings (Dynamic mode with DNIe ON, etc.).
Solution:
1. Power ON with the set displaying a normal image.
2. Press and hold the MENU button for five seconds. Use the Menu button on the TV's front panel, not the remote control.
The TV will blank for one second, and now be out of "shop mode". This mode can be toggled ON or OFF by repeating the steps. If you are out of "shop mode" the TV will "hold" it's video settings without automatically resetting every 30 minutes.
It sounds like this:
You are probably in "shop mode". Here is a link to instructions.
The Samsung HL-S DLP sets have "shop mode" to force the set back to Dynamic Mode when they are being used in showrooms. If some customer changes the menu settings, 30 minutes later those settings revert back to Samsung's desired showroom settings (Dynamic mode with DNIe ON, etc.).
Solution:
1. Power ON with the set displaying a normal image.
2. Press and hold the MENU button for five seconds. Use the Menu button on the TV's front panel, not the remote control.
The TV will blank for one second, and now be out of "shop mode". This mode can be toggled ON or OFF by repeating the steps. If you are out of "shop mode" the TV will "hold" it's video settings without automatically resetting every 30 minutes.
Thanks for the tip. I tried it on my set and it didn't seem to do anything. I made sure that there was something on the screen and pressed the menu button on the side of the set.
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8/14/07 at 6:06pm
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Thanks for the tip. I tried it on my set and it didn't seem to do anything. I made sure that there was something on the screen and pressed the menu button on the side of the set.
Thanks for the tip. I tried it on my set and it didn't seem to do anything. I made sure that there was something on the screen and pressed the menu button on the side of the set.
It has to switch modes unless there was something wrong with your set, or what you did.
The HL-T sets may take longer than five seconds to switch modes.
I think the HL-T sets use the same method for going into and out of "shop" mode, but I'm not absolutely sure. If an HL-T owner doesn't respond try calling Samsung.
There is a defect that can look the same, but the "shop" mode should turn itself back on thirty minutes after you make configuration changes.
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8/14/07 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by docrings
My old HL-S6187 had this, and was made better with a little tweak of the focus knob in the back of the set. It didn't relieve it completely, though. Fortunately, I had the set replaced/upgraded by Samsung for that and a couple other reasons. See TECH LINKS for the instructions on focus adjustment. Requires TWO people!
Cheers,
Doc
My old HL-S6187 had this, and was made better with a little tweak of the focus knob in the back of the set. It didn't relieve it completely, though. Fortunately, I had the set replaced/upgraded by Samsung for that and a couple other reasons. See TECH LINKS for the instructions on focus adjustment. Requires TWO people!
Cheers,
Doc
Does anyone know if this also applies to the HL-T series? If so, whats the best way to try to get a stubborn corner to focus better? Also, on these LED models, what controls the alignment of the color. I have seen 2 sets plus a store model and they all exhibit slight color fringing as you move away from center. Is this just a limitation of the technology?
post #4645 of 14462
8/14/07 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by Z07VETTE
UPDATE: Got my 61HLT87 TV repaired in which it only took about 10 days, to diag, order parts and install parts. Here's my thoughts on comparing it to last years 61"HLS model that I had:
PROS
-Flesh tones much more accurate
-a bit of green push out of the box but can be calibrated out
-there were a few scenes of HD material where I would see artifacts, sparkles etc and yet now on all of those exact scenes they are crystal clean
-4:3 geometry is near perfect as far as I can tell
-deeper blacks
CONS
It appears that it does not deinterlace very well at all. If I bring in an HD signal through at 1080i (even HD NET)I see slight motion blur and flicker, almost as if the picture is smearing. I was watching hockey and at the faceoff you can see all the cuts in the ice. As the camera moves over just slightly and not even that quickly, the cuts and detail of the ice disappear and then reappear when the camera stops moving again. Very annoying.
For HD DVDs if I bring them in as 1080i I see the same effect. Switch to 1080P and all that nonsense stops, and the detail is very clean even through movement.
If I set my HD Cable box to 720P output, again that strange motion blur is about 90% gone. My original 61HLS looked no different through 1080i or 1080P.
In EVERY other aspect the TV looks incredible especially the Xbox360 however it appears all those HD movies on cable look pretty crappy now not to mention football, which was never the case with my HLS.
Has anybody else noticed this?
Is this normal or should I call a tech to look at it?
UPDATE: Got my 61HLT87 TV repaired in which it only took about 10 days, to diag, order parts and install parts. Here's my thoughts on comparing it to last years 61"HLS model that I had:
PROS
-Flesh tones much more accurate
-a bit of green push out of the box but can be calibrated out
-there were a few scenes of HD material where I would see artifacts, sparkles etc and yet now on all of those exact scenes they are crystal clean
-4:3 geometry is near perfect as far as I can tell
-deeper blacks
CONS
It appears that it does not deinterlace very well at all. If I bring in an HD signal through at 1080i (even HD NET)I see slight motion blur and flicker, almost as if the picture is smearing. I was watching hockey and at the faceoff you can see all the cuts in the ice. As the camera moves over just slightly and not even that quickly, the cuts and detail of the ice disappear and then reappear when the camera stops moving again. Very annoying.
For HD DVDs if I bring them in as 1080i I see the same effect. Switch to 1080P and all that nonsense stops, and the detail is very clean even through movement.
If I set my HD Cable box to 720P output, again that strange motion blur is about 90% gone. My original 61HLS looked no different through 1080i or 1080P.
In EVERY other aspect the TV looks incredible especially the Xbox360 however it appears all those HD movies on cable look pretty crappy now not to mention football, which was never the case with my HLS.
Has anybody else noticed this?
Is this normal or should I call a tech to look at it?
So I guess nobody else has seen this and it in fact is not normal for this TV?
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8/14/07 at 7:51pm
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well the service tech came out this morning right away to check out my "prism halo" reflection that i had reported to samsung yesterday. He couldnt seem to see it with the regular test patterns and images of color from within the service menu, i was at work and had to coach him thru using my PS3 which had the reflection test image on a usb thumb drive and once he loaded the image he saw the reflection and he said he had seen that and they have dealt with it before. He said all i would need is a new light engine because the one i had was leaking light or there was escaping light from it. He said he would put the order in and it should take about 20 mins to install, he told me over the phone energetically that it was repairable. So hopefully the one that gets installed will be solid...hopefully samsung has tweaked things to make them more reliable, i'll keep u guys posted !! Wish me luck yet again!!!! PLEASE!
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So for those of you that use an Xbox 360 connected via VGA to your HLT, what picture size setting are you using? There are 3 settings available, of which 2 are only really viable
Wide TV -> as the manual describes it "sets the picture in Wide TV format"
Wide PC -> as the manual describes it "sets the picture in Wide PC format"
4:3 -> obviously a bad choice for the 360
Anyone know the actual difference between Wide TV and Wide PC?
Wide TV -> as the manual describes it "sets the picture in Wide TV format"
Wide PC -> as the manual describes it "sets the picture in Wide PC format"
4:3 -> obviously a bad choice for the 360
Anyone know the actual difference between Wide TV and Wide PC?
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8/14/07 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by htwaits
It has to switch modes unless there was something wrong with your set, or what you did.
The HL-T sets may take longer than five seconds to switch modes.
I think the HL-T sets use the same method for going into and out of "shop" mode, but I'm not absolutely sure. If an HL-T owner doesn't respond try calling Samsung.
There is a defect that can look the same, but the "shop" mode should turn itself back on thirty minutes after you make configuration changes.
It has to switch modes unless there was something wrong with your set, or what you did.
The HL-T sets may take longer than five seconds to switch modes.
I think the HL-T sets use the same method for going into and out of "shop" mode, but I'm not absolutely sure. If an HL-T owner doesn't respond try calling Samsung.
There is a defect that can look the same, but the "shop" mode should turn itself back on thirty minutes after you make configuration changes.
I called customer service. The way to turn off shop mode on the HL-T5689 is to push the volume button on the side of the TV. While the volume button is on the screen push and hold the menu button on the side of the TV until the screen goes black.
Thanks for the information.
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