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post #7471 of 14851
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Originally Posted by wopino View Post

be sure to not bump it hard because if ur set has the silver lens cover it may introduce the halo...just be careful with ur set and congrats on the new light engine...those r hard to come by

Ha, I'm sure the halo was probably introduced in almost all our part via shipping. When I watched Egle drop off my set, they had one dude pull the TV and let the unit drop, THOUGH gently, on it's corner. It almost made me cry.
post #7472 of 14851
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Originally Posted by Tomac47 View Post

Received my 5087S and it was perfect except for the blue halo effect. Samsung had a tech out in 2 days to examine it.

I *do* know that replacing the DLP engine fixed the blue halo effect in my particular set. Now that that particular problem is solved I will say that I'm *very* happy w/the PQ & features for my family's needs!

WOW, that is great. Congratulations.

I really want to buy this but I could not put up with everything some of the guys in here have put up with. I would go crazy and my blood pressure would be through the roof.

Now it seems like there is hope for repairs on this system.

I hope the good reports keep coming in.

Jim
post #7473 of 14851
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Originally Posted by Jim_In_Boston View Post

WOW, that is great. Congratulations.

I really want to buy this but I could not put up with everything some of the guys in here have put up with. I would go crazy and my blood pressure would be through the roof.

Now it seems like there is hope for repairs on this system.

I hope the good reports keep coming in.

Jim

You know Jim you could just end up with a Samsung LED DLP with no problems like the rest of us, then you will lead a boring existence compared to some of the adventures fellow members have had.

Still nice to see positive news!
post #7474 of 14851
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Originally Posted by jfischer View Post

How is playing The Matrix, which is intentionally tinted green during the times that they are in the Matrix, going to help? I mean, every TV is going to show green push with 50% of this movie

Ha Ha, I know I know, but I'm pretty sure what I see is much worse that the other 100 times I watched this movie on my previous set

But you see it is the reason you mentioned that I choose this DVD. I had a Tech comming that I needed to prove an intermittent problem exists. I was even told that if the tech did not see a problem I would have to pay for the service call. Using the Matrix, well how did it work out?

My brand new ENTIRE light engine will be installed Monday

I don't know, but I doubt I would have got the same results if I had played Frosty the Snowman for her?

BTW has anyone else who has the green push tried The Matrix yet?
post #7475 of 14851
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Originally Posted by Yamamotosama View Post

Ha, I'm sure the halo was probably introduced in almost all our part via shipping. When I watched Egle drop off my set, they had one dude pull the TV and let the unit drop, THOUGH gently, on it's corner. It almost made me cry.

well the halo is caused by the blue LED or all 3 LEDs being angled in such a way that it reflects off of the silver lens cover...the only ones that dont have the problem means that the LEDs never shifted at all and stayed at the same "perfect" angle to where no light is hitting the silver lens cover...understand?
post #7476 of 14851
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Label your input as a PC, and then p.size will allow size adjustments.

Is this for HDMI as well? Because I've named my HDMI2 input as PC and still can't adjust the size, only the position. On the PC labelled VGA input though, I can adjust the size. Going to fiddle with powerstrip sometime next week.
post #7477 of 14851
I never could find a stand and shelf system that suited my needs so I decided to put my limited woodworking skills to work and make my own. Just thought I'd share the near-finished product with all here. I'll be adding doors to the base in the near future. The shelf is mounted to the wall.

Now all I need to do is get rid of the green push and I'll have it made.
LL
post #7478 of 14851
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Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post

Is this for HDMI as well? Because I've named my HDMI2 input as PC and still can't adjust the size, only the position. On the PC labelled VGA input though, I can adjust the size. Going to fiddle with powerstrip sometime next week.

Yes, this is with HDMI as well (actually I've only done this with HDMI). Also the size adjustment can only be done with the p.size button on the remote, NOT the size option in the menu system.
post #7479 of 14851
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Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan View Post

Is this for HDMI as well? Because I've named my HDMI2 input as PC and still can't adjust the size, only the position. On the PC labelled VGA input though, I can adjust the size. Going to fiddle with powerstrip sometime next week.

The only 2 settings I've found for the PC using the HDMI3/DVI is to set the Viseo card resolution to 1920X1080 and 1024X768
post #7480 of 14851
That looks really nice. I have a huge cord monster behind mine or I would send the pic. Hopefully your limited skills secured the top piece to prevent them from crashing down. That would be a fear of mine.
post #7481 of 14851
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Originally Posted by hippowolf View Post

That looks really nice. I have a huge cord monster behind mine or I would send the pic. Hopefully your limited skills secured the top piece to prevent them from crashing down. That would be a fear of mine.

I tend to "overbuild" so the only way the shelf will come down if if the entire wall comes with it. I have no worries.
post #7482 of 14851
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

You know Jim you could just end up with a Samsung LED DLP with no problems like the rest of us, then you will lead a boring existence compared to some of the adventures fellow members have had.

Still nice to see positive news!

Hahahahahaha
post #7483 of 14851
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Originally Posted by SnakeDoctor View Post

I never could find a stand and shelf system that suited my needs so I decided to put my limited woodworking skills to work and make my own. Just thought I'd share the near-finished product with all here. I'll be adding doors to the base in the near future. The shelf is mounted to the wall.

Now all I need to do is get rid of the green push and I'll have it made.

Nice SnakeDoctor. Hey, how do you like the Klipsh subwoofer?
post #7484 of 14851
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Originally Posted by Yamamotosama View Post

Nice SnakeDoctor. Hey, how do you like the Klipsh subwoofer?

I'm not much of an audio purist so I don't think my opinion would carry much weight. FWIW, the system I have sounds good to me thus I am happy with it. The sub rattles the windows at the appropriate time and that usually brings a subtle smile to my face as my wife say those three little words - "Turn it down".
post #7485 of 14851
Received my HLT-6189S late Halloween day; build 2007-05-09 firmware 1016.

No "apparent" geometry issues(nothing that bothers me), no visible halo-prism issue.

There are 2 smaller than a dime, dark spots on the bottom right side of screen(seems to be inside).
You can only see these spots on white or really light colored backgrounds.
Could this be a smudge on the inside of the screen?

Also, when turning the Tv on, sometimes it does not find the signal coming from HDMI 1 via the DirecTV HR21.
This could be a DirecTV issue?

When changing from HDTV channel to regular, vice versa, the screen shows pink and green distorted lines for about 1 second, I don't like that.
This may be a DirecTV HR21 issue also.

Otherwise this TV has an excellent HDTV picture!
Buy it !
post #7486 of 14851
Just reporting back on my 5687 delivered today from Amazon. So far, I have not observed any halos, green push, or other issues. Strangely, this TV was manufactured in April 2007, so it seems to be old stock for Amazon... I guess the good news is the older sets did not tend to have these issues so I should consider myself lucky.
post #7487 of 14851
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Originally Posted by bkmartin View Post

Just reporting back on my 5687 delivered today from Amazon. So far, I have not observed any halos, green push, or other issues. Strangely, this TV was manufactured in April 2007, so it seems to be old stock for Amazon... I guess the good news is the older sets did not tend to have these issues so I should consider myself lucky.

it has nothing to do with how old or new the tv is, the tv is going to have the halo unless noted above it gets shipped perfectly or if it has the black lens cover in it...i have a march 2007 build and it had the halo out of the box and green push as well....but my geometry is effin tits
post #7488 of 14851
@Wopino

It is absurd how horrible Samsung support is. The left hand NEVER knows what the right hand is doing and everyone you speak to is always clueless. Im surprised they even know Samsung makes TVs. I can't imagine having a high profile experiemental ticket NOT contain all information (part info) on the solution to a major issue they were looking to resolve. It's like it happened but then just fell through the cracks and no one cares. It must be complete incompetence because economics 101 states they should prefer to replace a $0.01 piece of plastic as opposed to $1000 light engine. COME ON people!
post #7489 of 14851
I am not much of a poster but more of a reader. I have read every post on the Samsung 87/89 LED forum and every post on the Sony A3000 forum and I just wanted to share on both forums what my experience has been. Especially to the people that are thinking of switching to the Sony. Following is the post that I posted on the Sony forum:

I am one that has actually switched from the Sony to the Samsung LED. I really didn't want to switch to the Samsung after reading that forum, but after having 2 different Sony's with geometry so bad I decided what did I have to lose. Wow, is all I can say. I am so glad that I got bad Sony's because without that I would have never tried the Samsung. The picture is so much nicer on the Samsung. The colors are a lot deeper. It gives you an almost 3d effect on the Samsung. My wife kept asking me "Why did we get an HDTV again. I don't think it looks as good as our old rear projection Hitcahi". The Sony was good, but just kind of plain compared to the Samsung. I also had a lot of SSE on the Sony compared to the Samsung. I still have some on the Samsung but hardly noticeable. Also on fast moving sporting events like football and nascar racing it is not even close. On the Samsung the picture stayed just as smooth during fast motion as no motion. The Sony got very blurry during fast moving scenes. And for the person asking about slow turn on times, you might want to give the Samsung a try. Very fast turn on times and much nicer picture, and no bulbs to change. Another small thing is that the Sony looks very old style. Brown and Silver. Yuk. Most of the new TV's including LCD and Plasma have the shiny black front which is very stylish. But the Sony looks like it is from 10 years ago. And far as support, I don't think Samsung can be any worse than Sony since when I talked to anyone from Sony(I talked to several) I might as well picked someone out of a crowd and they would have known as much as Sony support people, and they probably would have been a lot more friendly.

One more note: When the tech was out to try to fix it I asked him if he thought trying the Samsung would be a good choice. His response was that he has 3 times more service calls for Sony than Samsung. He also said that the store sells twice as many Samsungs than Sony's. He said that he isn't saying one is better than the other but he does have a lot more calls on Sony...Take that however you want to.
post #7490 of 14851
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Originally Posted by SnakeDoctor View Post

I never could find a stand and shelf system that suited my needs so I decided to put my limited woodworking skills to work and make my own. Just thought I'd share the near-finished product with all here. I'll be adding doors to the base in the near future. The shelf is mounted to the wall.

Nice. I've got the Samsung stand but you're giving me ideas :-)

Bob
post #7491 of 14851
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Originally Posted by alvindd View Post

Received my HLT-6189S late Halloween day; build 2007-05-09 firmware 1016.

Also, when turning the Tv on, sometimes it does not find the signal coming from HDMI 1 via the DirecTV HR21.
This could be a DirecTV issue?

Although this might be totally wrong and misleading, you might try running the DirecTV to component rather than HDMI. I had initially connected my Motorola 6412 DVR via HDMI. Depending on how I let the DVR convert the signals, I had trouble with some stations. I switched to component and haven't had trouble since. I think it was because HDMI required a certain level of input, but I didn't want the DVR converting SD signals because they appeared worse. I don't see a noticeable difference in HD TV.

Anyway, that was my experience for what it's worth.

Bob
post #7492 of 14851
Well...I couldn't do without a TV for 6 weeks. Also, nothing to guarantee that I would get my money back. So, the repairman was just here. TV wouldn't turn on. Opened the back and the connector from the power input plug to the PS wasn't plugged in. Plugged it in it worked.

No buzzing or humming sound.

However, I do have the blue halo. I could live with it if I had to, but I'm calling to have it fixed. The big problem is rainbows. Rainbows everywhere. I might as well have an old wheel DLP. This is not good.

Are there any settings that can be changed to get rid of the rainbows???
post #7493 of 14851
Has anyone upgraded their firmware for an xx89 to the latest version (1016)?
post #7494 of 14851
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Originally Posted by SonySam View Post

I am not much of a poster but more of a reader. I have read every post on the Samsung 87/89 LED forum and every post on the Sony A3000 forum and I just wanted to share on both forums what my experience has been. Especially to the people that are thinking of switching to the Sony. Following is the post that I posted on the Sony forum:

I am one that has actually switched from the Sony to the Samsung LED. I really didn't want to switch to the Samsung after reading that forum, but after having 2 different Sony's with geometry so bad I decided what did I have to lose. Wow, is all I can say. I am so glad that I got bad Sony's because without that I would have never tried the Samsung. The picture is so much nicer on the Samsung. The colors are a lot deeper. It gives you an almost 3d effect on the Samsung. My wife kept asking me "Why did we get an HDTV again. I don't think it looks as good as our old rear projection Hitcahi". The Sony was good, but just kind of plain compared to the Samsung. I also had a lot of SSE on the Sony compared to the Samsung. I still have some on the Samsung but hardly noticeable. Also on fast moving sporting events like football and nascar racing it is not even close. On the Samsung the picture stayed just as smooth during fast motion as no motion. The Sony got very blurry during fast moving scenes. And for the person asking about slow turn on times, you might want to give the Samsung a try. Very fast turn on times and much nicer picture, and no bulbs to change. Another small thing is that the Sony looks very old style. Brown and Silver. Yuk. Most of the new TV's including LCD and Plasma have the shiny black front which is very stylish. But the Sony looks like it is from 10 years ago. And far as support, I don't think Samsung can be any worse than Sony since when I talked to anyone from Sony(I talked to several) I might as well picked someone out of a crowd and they would have known as much as Sony support people, and they probably would have been a lot more friendly.

One more note: When the tech was out to try to fix it I asked him if he thought trying the Samsung would be a good choice. His response was that he has 3 times more service calls for Sony than Samsung. He also said that the store sells twice as many Samsungs than Sony's. He said that he isn't saying one is better than the other but he does have a lot more calls on Sony...Take that however you want to.

Congrats on finally finding a unit that suits you and being happy with it. I know how it can feel to face disappointment and frustration from what should be an exciting time of getting your first HDTV. What's funny is how I our experiences have been so similar but in exactly the opposite way.

Both - First HDTV
You - Two Sony's then a Samsung
Me - Two Samsungs and a Sony
You - Hate Sony's support
Me - Hate Samsung's support
You - Love the Samsung
Me - Love the Sony
You - Notice bad SSE on Sony but not Samsung
Me - Notice bad SSE on Samsung but not Sony

Few others but just thought it was interesting is all
post #7495 of 14851
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Originally Posted by Andym22 View Post

Congrats on finally finding a unit that suits you and being happy with it. I know how it can feel to face disappointment and frustration from what should be an exciting time of getting your first HDTV. What's funny is how I our experiences have been so similar but in exactly the opposite way.

Both - First HDTV
You - Two Sony's then a Samsung
Me - Two Samsungs and a Sony
You - Hate Sony's support
Me - Hate Samsung's support
You - Love the Samsung
Me - Love the Sony
You - Notice bad SSE on Sony but not Samsung
Me - Notice bad SSE on Samsung but not Sony

Few others but just thought it was interesting is all


Although I am sure if I have to deal with Samsung support I won't be happy with that either from what other people have said. But hopefully I won't have to use Samsung support. I think I am probably the only guy that had 2 Sony's without any luck. I am real sure that I am the only one that switched from Sony to Samsung.
post #7496 of 14851
Interesting to see where the thread went while I was away at lunch on a recon mission to Fry's. While I'm waiting on my new light engine Monday I thought I'd take a look at the A3000, oops, shouldn't have done that.

In the store they had a JVC (looked terrible), all of them 60ish" next to the Sammy DLP (bulb), next to our prize the 87S, next to the A3000. No way man, the Sony looked much better! I didn't want it to, but it did I had free reign of the Dish network HD remote and the Sammys. Didn't see the Sony remote. Anyway the Sammy was set to Dynamic defaults. I tried cycling through the 3 presets, you know what they are by now. Anyway nothing I did to this Sammy, which did not have green, or halo that I seen, could put it in the same ballpark as the Sony. The best way to describe it, especially with King Kong HBO HD playing, is to say the Sony reminded me of when I watch a live broadcast like the news or football in HD. The Sammy looked like, well a movie. In my opinion the first is superior.

I was talking to another dude who was there shopping. He reads here as well and he was darn close to walking away with the Sony even though he is a current DLP owner with 2 bulbs under his belt. Hmmmmm.

What to do now...stay tuned!

P.S. sitting between the Sammy with bulb and the Sony, the 87s is definitly the dimmest in this darkened room.
post #7497 of 14851
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Originally Posted by doudis2 View Post

Interesting to see where the thread went while I was away at lunch on a recon mission to Fry's. While I'm waiting on my new light engine Monday I thought I'd take a look at the A3000, oops, shouldn't have done that.

In the store they had a JVC (looked terrible), all of them 60ish" next to the Sammy DLP (bulb), next to our prize the 87S, next to the A3000. No way man, the Sony looked much better! I didn't want it to, but it did I had free reign of the Dish network HD remote and the Sammys. Didn't see the Sony remote. Anyway the Sammy was set to Dynamic defaults. I tried cycling through the 3 presets, you know what they are by now. Anyway nothing I did to this Sammy, which did not have green, or halo that I seen, could put it in the same ballpark as the Sony. The best way to describe it, especially with King Kong HBO HD playing, is to say the Sony reminded me of when I watch a live broadcast like the news or football in HD. The Sammy looked like, well a movie. In my opinion the first is superior.

I was talking to another dude who was there shopping. He reads here as well and he was darn close to walking away with the Sony even though he is a current DLP owner with 2 bulbs under his belt. Hmmmmm.

What to do now...stay tuned!

P.S. sitting between the Sammy with bulb and the Sony, the 87s is definitly the dimmest in this darkened room.

Depending on the age of the sets and how they were set up, I have seen either model look worse next to each other. I always think most big box stores don't put much effort into setting up demo displays IMHO.

At a local Fry's and BB that I saw 60A3000 next to 6187S and they were roughly same brightness. BTW the 5087S is sometimes too bright compared to other RPD's.

When I bought my 6189S i was comparing it to numerous LCD's and Plasma's right next door, and found the brightness equaled most smaller displays.

Note the Samsung when watching broadcast should be on standard mode not dynamic.
post #7498 of 14851
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Originally Posted by tribbler View Post

Well...I couldn't do without a TV for 6 weeks. Also, nothing to guarantee that I would get my money back. So, the repairman was just here. TV wouldn't turn on. Opened the back and the connector from the power input plug to the PS wasn't plugged in. Plugged it in it worked.

No buzzing or humming sound.

However, I do have the blue halo. I could live with it if I had to, but I'm calling to have it fixed. The big problem is rainbows. Rainbows everywhere. I might as well have an old wheel DLP. This is not good.

Are there any settings that can be changed to get rid of the rainbows???

Have someone else look at your display to gauge RBE's, so we can establish that the RBE is related to your sensitivity of detecting RBE or there is something wrong with your LED DLP display.

With the faster LED sequence and no color wheel there should be a reduction of the possibility of seeing RBE's compared to DLP's based on color wheels.
post #7499 of 14851
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Depending on the age of the sets and how they were set up, I have seen either model look worse next to each other. I always think most big box stores don't put much effort into setting up demo displays IMHO.

At a local Fry's and BB that I saw 60A3000 next to 6187S and they were roughly same brightness. BTW the 5087S is sometimes too bright compared to other RPD's.

When I bought my 6189S i was comparing it to numerous LCD's and Plasma's right next door, and found the brightness equaled most smaller displays.

Note the Samsung when watching broadcast should be on standard mode not dynamic.

I did try Standard, Sony was still crisper. As for the brightness, that was just an obsrevation not a prefrence. I want clarity over all else. That is where I was most impressed by the A3000. I forgot to mention both were using component inputs. I like the Sammy, but after two lemmons and the thought of replacing the entire light engine in the hope that it may work, well I'm not getting the warm and fuzzies here. Know what I mean Vern, lol.

I think the LED technology is the wave of the future, but I'm not sure if the future has arrived or not. Still deciding......
post #7500 of 14851
I've had my 5687S for a little over 2 months but didn't notice the halo issue until after my 30 days was up. Now it's driving me crazy and I finally called Samsung to get it fixed and they said it's a firmware issue and an update will be coming in the mail. It's apparent that the problem is the silver cap in the light engine so should I call them back and try to get someone out to verify or should I just wait for the firmware so that when I do call back I can tell them that it's definitely not the problem?
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