2007 Samsung LED Owner's Thread (HLT XX87/89S) - Page 283

There might as well be none since these firmware updates don't seem to do much for the better.

When talking to a tech, the buzzing sound should get louder, the brighter the picture on screen. The tech is replacing the light engine this coming week.

something about the increasing wattage for brighter picture makes the light engine get all quirky.

Question...

Why does the XXX87s even have a sharpness or edge control?

IT DOES NOTHING!

Anyone else notice this or am I missing something?

Stillwater..are you speaking from experience? Please elaborate..

This has been reported many times in this thread. I get the impression by reading these posts that sharpness is more of a legacy control and that it does not apply to HDMI and Component inputs.

Avio

I just hooked my PC up to my 5687S and played some Counter Strike Source and Team Fortress 2. Both look absolutely amazing at 1920 x 1080. Dedicated HTPC, here I come!

You must have a recently manufactured set and it is a 87SAX. My tv was built NOV 2007 and I have the same numbers(1008 and 1002) From reading the SAX model has fixed a lot of issues (HALO) Another posted stated that with a new model series the firmware may be a new series. If you are not having any problems, I would not change your firmware.

My 5687SAX just arrived today. No halo issues, no buzzing, slight misalignment when using the grid file (less than 1/8" I'd say though). I also have the 1008 and 1002 firmwires. Very happy with the set so far.

Also just got the Oppo 980-h. Unbelievable combination. Can't wait to get this set professionally calibrated...

Here's a question guys. I'm probably going to get the Sony HT-SS2000 5.1 audio system to go with my 5687S. Unfortunately, I really have no place to put the center speaker. Would it be ok to put it on top of the TV, or should I put it on the TV stand in front of it? A pic of my setup is below. Also, should I get some sort of extended warranty for the TV? If so, should I get it through HH Gregg (where I got it), or from somebody else?

Ok, I have determined that I am ok now with HD channels--they look great. My only issue is the poor quality of the SD channels. Is there anything that can be done, or am I looking at a reality that an SD channel is just gonna suck on a 61" screen because you're taking a 480i signal and stretching it out (have reset picture size to 4:3 on SD channels--helps somewhat).

Can Samsung suggest anything on this?

I'm facing the same problem, but I don't see how it would even sit ontop of
the tv..my center speaker is heavey and I'm afraid it would bend the
screen

See my post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=6997 . If you search the internet you can find the HD for under $2k.

I have actually been pleasantly surprised by the SD quality on my 6187. I am using Charter Cable but I would think a Sat Dish should be equal in quality on the SD channels. I really don't like watching SD in the "stretched" mode so I watch it in 4:3 mode. With a 61" TV it's large enough that it is plenty big.

If you have used the "starter settings" as recommended in this forum on the HD channels, I believe you also have to set them separately on the SD channels. Take a look at the "Picture" settings when viewing a SD channel to see if they are the same as when viewing a HD channel. I think I remember having to set them both up separately. If you are still using the factory presets on the SD channels, then I agree that the picture stinks. You may want to actually have different picture settings for the SD channels

SD obviously won't be as good and the larger the screen, the more the lack of detail will be evident. Again, I have been pleasantly surprised how well my 6197 performs on SD channels with the right calibration.

Well after the buzzing and the picture going out I got my replacement 5687S tonight. So far so good. I am having some pixelation. I ran the RG6 through the CoAx on the surge protector and then to the H21. Is it possible I am loosing some signal reduction/interference by going through the surge protector (RCA)? I'm going to put the new TV through the test tomorrow.

Halo problem is not fixed on the SAX models. I viewed a second SAX (5687s) this evening that had a halo.

JTello, thanks a lot for this info. Can you tell me if you have the VGA hooked up to the TV and the laptop not connected or turned off, can you still select the PC source?

Do you have your TV connected with HDMI or Component cables? I tried both and Component looks 10X better with regular (non-HD) channels and basically the same with HD. I use the Motorola Dual tuner DVR with Component cables.

Sorry for the reposted question, but i just recieved my TV. I have an hd dvd player and i was wondering if anyone had a good calibration for this? If so can you point me in the right direction. Thanks

Instead of accessing the service menus, and potentially doing damage by inadvertently changing some settings, I'd suggest that you just display a pattern from an external source.

You can load the one (that I've previously posted about), grid.jpg, onto a flash drive and view it using the WiseLink USB port.

If you really want to use the servce menu, at your own risk!:
- With the set powered off press "mute 1 8 2 power" to enter the service menus.
- Select DDP3021.
- Use the up/down arrows to select the test pattern option.
- Use the right arrow to find the test grid.

Note that just entering the sevice menus, even without changing anything, will probably reset all your user settings.

Can't put it on top of the TV unless its a little cube deal. Looks like you have a nice wall to work with if youre a little handy. I'm puzzling over what to do with my center at the moment.

Thanks avio.

I looked into this as well. My centre speaker is 23"x6.75"x12"deep. I investigated speaker shelves that are designed to sit on top of the TV, but none will handle to steep slope of the back of the 5687. So unless you have a small centre speaker and can rig up something, this is a non-starter, at least for me.

I read up on centre speaker placement and the best position is on top followed by directly underneath (I guess that's obvious). So one alternative is a shelf, assuming that your TV is fairly close to the wall and you don't mind the position of the speaker. The other alternative is under the TV on a shelf on the stand. I have a Samsung stand that came with the TV and unfortunately, the top shelf is too narrow. I am going to test using the bottom shelf before I try the wall shelf and see whether the separation makes things sound funny.

Bob

I've posted on this as well, although not as extensively as JRWalker. I have found that there's a big difference in SD depending on the channel and also depending on where any upconverting is done. I have a Motorola DCT6412 PVR and have found that I get a better picture letting the TV do any upconverting needed as opposed to having the PVR upconvert. So the PVR is sending either 1080i (if it's HD) or 480i (if it's SD) and the TV upconverts from there.

I'm actually quite impressed as what this TV does with SD and taped (VCR) material.

Check the settings on your cable box. You may have to get into a service menu to change what you need.

Bob

Bob, I have the same setup as you do. Can you explain how to get the TV to upconvert the 480i signal? I have checked the menu on the DVR by turning off the power and pressing menu, 4x3 override is set to 480i. Can you please tell me the way you have yours setup so I can get the standard channels upconverted. What kind of connection do you use from your DVR to you TV? Component or HDMI? I have 2 DVR's in the house and the newer has an HDMI connection available but as things are set right now Component looks way better.
Thanks

Here was my solution th the center channel speaker above the TV. Placing the center channel below the TV was not an option for me because there is a coffee table between me and the TV which would have blocked the speaker. It's hard to tell from the picture but the shelf above the TV is 20.5" deep.

I think I'm just going to put the center speaker right in front of the TV on the stand. Our couches sit pretty low, so it'll be right around the same height as our ears. We do have a coffee table in between, but it sits very very low.

I have the 5089S and I also seem to get 1080P/24 when playing Blu-Rays, I have the panny BD30 set to 1080P/24 and on the 5089S it displays 1080P/24Hz, am I to beleive this is displaying it correctly. Seems to be fine with no problems at all?

The TV will automatically display in 1080p. So it converts whatever is input that's less than 1080p to 1080p. However, it's not necessarily better than the source. You should test the various settings to get the best result for your equipment combinations.

My DVR settings are

TV Type: 16:9 - of course
YPbPr Output: 1080i - this is the HD output format
4:3 Override: 480i - don't convert SD output (let's the TV convert)

I use component cables because when I used HDMI, they wouldn't accept the 480i output from the DVR. AND, using HDMI with any other 4:3 Override setting gave me a worse picture.

So this sounds like the same as you. Check the settings again just in case. As well, see whether it's all SD channels or just some that look bad. The local channels look much worse than the out of town channels because of some silly regulation saying they have to rebroadcast the over the air signal rather than the direct feed.

Bob

Recent posts by bobbd2000 and BullittMustang got me wondering, because all the channels for my SA3200HD cable box showed being received at 1080i format by my 5689, when the two were directly connected with an HDMI cable. Found the FAQ below at http://www.scientificatlanta.com/pro...orer8300HD.htm


Having more than one device upconverting (in this case the 8300 is converting 480i to 1080i then the 5689 is converting 1080i to 1080p) will degrade picture quality. It is likely that passing 480i to the 5689 will give a better picture. Sorry I don't have time to do more on this now. Will come back to it later.

Hello all

Iv'e been browsing the forums for a short while (was waiting for my Samsung 6189 to arrive), and it's finally here!

So far, so good. I haven't noticed any of the issues people have mentioned here.. no halos, light seems even, geometry looks good (to the naked eye). I still have some tweaking to do with the settings, but overall i'm very impressed.

I have a ps3 hooked to it via HDMI, and the picture quality is very good. I would like the colors to 'pop' a little more though (if anyone has some recomended settings I could try?).

Also, a friend is going to let me use his copy of "Avia: Guide to home theater". Is this any good? is there anything I should watch for (tips?).

And I've seen (from browsing the forums) that you may think your TV looks fine.. but if you start looking for problems, you may find them *laughs*

Anyway. Good to be here, and thanks for any help offered

-edit: One more thing. With my old CRT TV, I used to leave it on a lot when I left the room. Should I be shutting this TV off everytime to save LED life? I always have to turn on the reciever and cable box at the same time to watch TV, so I was wondering if it was worth it?