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post #421 of 694
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Originally Posted by i86time View Post

Well, it appears that the Sima oversaturates the brightness while the new conveter is fairly dark. Otherwise it doesn't look half bad for $60. Do you happen to have a direct cap of those calibration screens from the original DVD for comparison?

EDIT: Are THX optimizers on DVD's not CP'd? I never noticed.
Also, are you sure this is a Lenkeng product? I see that all of those from different Amazon retailers have different 'vendor' names attached to them, but I never saw one listing it as a Lenkeng.

THX is CP'd but I used a bit for bit PC copy that had CP removed
AFA Lenkeng, it really looks like the Lenkeng(actually MonoPrice branded) device I had and even the model # starts with LKV although the brand is LinkStyle.
I'll see if I can pull the THX screen off my mirror copy but the source for all my #1's was a SP recording on my Panasonic EH-55s HDD HS copied to a DVD RW and I used VLC Media Player for the screen shots, it's about as close to a mirror as I one can get with a realtime copy(IMO anyway). If I can get a direct screen shot I'll update this post I have the original DVD but I doubt I could do a screen shot since it's CP'd?

#1 is Mirror copy, contrast
#2 is Mirror copy, black level
#3 is Mirror copy, resolution
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post #422 of 694
HOLY COW jjeff, does that converter "make" name start with LKV? If it does then......it's a Lenkeng!oh nooo...not another one!!! Have to agree with i86time about the green shift and about the darkness of the overall image...but if it's a Lenkeng.........G.
post #423 of 694
Well, I just looked at the resolution shots @ 400%, 2nd "sqaure" of vertical bars from the right. The resolution from the Lenkeng converter was way too soft compared to the full analog Sima/direct S-Video. Back to the drawing board, I guess.
post #424 of 694
Hold on guys.

There seems to have been a jump to a conclusion that this is a Lenkeng product without conclusive evidence of this. jjeff - where do you see a model number starting with LKV? That appears nowhere on my device or delivery / shipping note, nor in the instructions in the box, nor on the original product page on Amazon.

The device is also of metal construction which is not consistent with Lenkeng products.

As for the video output quality, it's not the best, but it does the job. If you want a way to archive HD content easily to DVDR and don't need top quality output, this device may be what you want.

I know that devices out there can do better because I used to have a better output natively on my SkyHD box. The question is how much are you willing to pay for such a converter.

With the higher-priced setups being talked about in this thread you may as well build a HTPC with component capture then you can have H264 files that you can convert to whatever format you want.
post #425 of 694
Mine is boxed and taped up ready to ship back so I can't look at it now but the packing slip says SKU:LK-219414....
Everything about this device reminds me of Lenkeng devices I've seen and the Monoprice/Lenkeng clone I had. I'm not slamming Lenkeng or saying they make a non working product I'm just saying I personally would rather spend more to get more, many people would rather spend a lot less at the expense of picture quality. It's the reason I posted my screen shots, if someone is satisfied with the results more power to them
BTW the Monoprice/Lenkeng component to S-video converter also has a metal case(quite nicely made IMO) and even the switch labeling(for the S-video/composite) is similar to this device. I'm more than convinced this product is made by the same company but have no positive proof.
Oh and to clarify my previous posts, this device only accepts 480p and above so I guess I didn't lose anything by not being able to feed it 480i, sounds like it wouldn't have with that resolution worked anyway.
post #426 of 694
My Lenkeng that came directly from Lenkeng, and my Monoprice Lenkeng, accept 480i.
post #427 of 694
This is from the Lenkeng website.
http://www.lenkeng.net/Html/Product/...Converter.html

It sure looks like the one Amazon listed. The labeling on the top surface of both has the word VIDEO with the white dots near it and some blue lettering after it. The only difference I see is the Lenkeng picture shows what looks like HDMI also on the top surface. But that could just be a newer or older production run. Maybe they added HDMI to make it look more up to date. The number on the packing slip may just be that particular seller's reference number. Obviously there is no guarantee that they both are Lenkeng products, but if I was going to bet.
post #428 of 694
Judging by the identical looks of the Amazon sold converter and the LKV381 pictured in your link,AND the awful PQ of the one shown in jjeff's screen shots,a reasonable person would have no choice but to conclude that both are the same product. Another sub-standard product from the minds at Lenkeng.
I can see the name of the new thread now:The "cheaper HDMI to s-video converter" thread. And people will buy them like hot cakes and swear up and down that they are "as good as converters costing much,much more." lolol. G.
post #429 of 694
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Originally Posted by Mike99 View Post

This is from the Lenkeng website.
http://www.lenkeng.net/Html/Product/...Converter.html

It sure looks like the one Amazon listed. The labeling on the top surface of both has the word “VIDEO” with the white dots near it and some blue lettering after it. The only difference I see is the Lenkeng picture shows what looks like “HDMI” also on the top surface. But that could just be a newer or older production run. Maybe they added “HDMI” to make it look more up to date. The number on the packing slip may just be that particular seller's reference number. Obviously there is no guarantee that they both are Lenkeng products, but if I was going to bet….

Mike, here it is again,model #HDTVLKV381 at www.hdtvsupply.com/hdmi-to-svideo-converter.html notice,this time the letters HDMI are in white,and the word "converter"is in blue.Also notice the warning at the bottom of the page which says "If you try to record with this converter,you won't get a picture".
jjeff says it strips CP but i wonder if he tried to record with it. Also notice the price:$149.95,which is marked down from $314.95. I wouldn't pay .10 cents for that "converter". These Lenkeng converters seem to have more incarnations than carter has liver pills lol G.
post #430 of 694
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

I can see the name of the new thread now:The "cheaper HDMI to s-video converter" thread. And people will buy them like hot cakes and swear up and down that they are "as good as converters costing much,much more." lolol. G.

And accuse people who spent more for a quality product of deluding themselves into believing the PQ is better in order to justify their added expense to themselves.
- where have I heard that before
post #431 of 694
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

Also notice the warning at the bottom of the page which says "If you try to record with this converter,you won't get a picture".
jjeff says it strips CP but i wonder if he tried to record with it. Also notice the price:$149.95,which is marked down from $314.95. I wouldn't pay .10 cents for that "converter". These Lenkeng converters seem to have more incarnations than carter has liver pills lol G.

I think they just say that to cover their A**, trust me it does work, I tried it
I agree, like the other Lenkeng component to S-video converters I think the only differences between the various places is how much you want to spend(for the same thing) Again both Lenkeng converters do what they are advertised to, it's just for the price they had to cut costs some how. You're not going to get BMW quality for Geo prices(I was going to say Yugo prices but that might be going a bit far)
post #432 of 694
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

it's just for the price they had to cut costs some how. You're not going to get BMW quality for Geo prices(I was going to say Yugo prices but that might be going a bit far)

I don't quite understand what you mean by "it's just for the price they had to cut costs somehow" They're selling them for as much as they can. I don't believe they're benevolently trying fill the supply for a much under served market as they honestly can. I think they know exactly what a POS their converters are and they don't give a darn. As Barnum & Bailey are reputed as saying:"There's a sucker born every minute" is what i believe Lenkeng's view is. I think that the Yugo analogy fits very well,or maybe you should have compared the quality of their converters to the Li'l Red Ryder wagons that were sold to every kid in America(including me) in the 1950's THAT would be a more fair comparison!! lolol G.
post #433 of 694
Lenkeng doesn't make anymore money if you purchase a converter from Monoprice(for <$50) or another outlet that sells the same thing for $150+, it's the reseller that makes more. AFA the low price, I think just like anything else, they are trying to keep the build price as low as possible and to that end it's kind of what you get, something designed with low cost(not high quality) in mind. Personally I don't see anything wrong with this, I mean I really didn't think a $50 converter would compare to a $200+ one(I was hoping but very skeptical) but I'd really be PO'd if I had purchased the same $50 converter for $150, that's not right.

When I write up my Amazon review for this product it will be similar to my MP review. Very good price but picture quality not up to units costing several times the cost Again not everyone wants to spend $200+ for such a converter but would be interested in a much lower priced unit even knowing the picture quality would be lower.
post #434 of 694
[quote=jjeff;20185472] AFA the low price, I think just like anything else, they are trying to keep the build price as low as possible and to that end it's kind of what you get, something designed with low cost(not high quality) in mind.

Yea jjeff,your probably right. I'm probably being a little toooo hard on them. I guess i'm still a wee bit angry about buying that no good converter from them a while back. I guess i should just get over it....but it's hard. I don't like being taken.If i had known the PQ of the converter would be in the toilet i wouldn't have bought it,and i don't think other people know it either.They buy it thinking that they'll have a descent product that didn't cost them an arm and a leg. My Lenkeng is still sitting around the house,and every time i see it i still get PO'd,but can't bring myself to throw it away cuz it's like throwing away $54 bucks. I also can't sell it or give it away because that would be a rotten thing to do to somebody. G.
post #435 of 694
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

I also can't sell it or give it away because that would be a rotten thing to do to somebody. G.

The people that sold it to you didn't view it that way. Sell it and be done with the demons.
post #436 of 694
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

...Yea jjeff,your probably right. I'm probably being a little toooo hard on them. I guess i'm still a wee bit angry about buying that no good converter from them a while back. I guess i should just get over it....but it's hard. I don't like being taken.If i had known the PQ of the converter would be in the toilet i wouldn't have bought it,and i don't think other people know it either.They buy it thinking that they'll have a descent product that didn't cost them an arm and a leg. My Lenkeng is still sitting around the house,and every time i see it i still get PO'd,but can't bring myself to throw it away cuz it's like throwing away $54 bucks. I also can't sell it or give it away because that would be a rotten thing to do to somebody. G.

Hey, I paid a lot more then that for a PAL to NTSC converter, and it was an unwatchable piece of trash. Only after I got the thing did I realize that my television would display PAL PERFECTLY without any conversion necessary. The TV manual does not mention PAL anywhere, but the television doesn't know this so it displays a PAL signal with no conversion necessary. The on screen display even tells me it's 576i! Yes, it was a bad purchase.
post #437 of 694
Well today i did what i should have done loooong ago. I found the only home a Lenkeng converter should ever have,.....i threw it in the dumpster!! and "exorsized the demon". Now maybe the angst will fade away.Thanks Kelson and church av guy for the push i needed. G.
post #438 of 694
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

Well today i did what i should have done loooong ago. I found the only home a Lenkeng converter should ever have,.....i threw it in the dumpster!! and "exorsized the demon". Now maybe the angst will fade away.Thanks Kelson and church av guy for the push i needed. G.

Maybe you just gave me the push *I* needed to toss my $100+ piece of junk PAL to NTSC converter. I KNOW I'll never use it!
post #439 of 694
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

Maybe you just gave me the push *I* needed to toss my $100+ piece of junk PAL to NTSC converter. I KNOW I'll never use it!

I just had a chuckle when I read that. You are familiar with the basic scientific principal: "wives abhor a vacuum"? Whenever I decide it's time to pull something from the shelf for disposal, the hole it leaves behind can never stay empty for very long. Something, not of my choosing, always finds its way in there -- nik-naks, artificial flowers, small plants, etc. And after a short time of residence, they are much harder to get rid of than the original occupant of the space. So, I've come to the conclusion that even though something may be utterly useless from a functional standpoint, it should continue to hold its place in the universe, until I have something to immediately exchange it with.
post #440 of 694
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

notice the warning at the bottom of the page which says "If you try to record with this converter,you won't get a picture"

I recorded through the converter from three different HD channels to my 513, without issues.

Greaser....you better hope that Lenkeng never make a good quality converter, else you won't be able to continue your crusade against them!

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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

BTW the Monoprice/Lenkeng component to S-video converter also has a metal case(quite nicely made IMO)

Huh? Mine is most definitely plastic.
post #441 of 694
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Originally Posted by Loobster View Post

Huh? Mine is most definitely plastic.

Looks like the cheapest of the Cheaper Component to S-Video Converter is out of stock and ETA is TBD
I wonder how they managed to sell out and yet only have 3 people that took the time to review them Oh and the MP converter I tried had a metal case, no doubt about it, IMO it was the nicest thing about the converter same thing with the HDMI to S-video converter I tried from WoW Parts.

Looks like it's back in stock at MP.
post #442 of 694
That is the one I have - it's plastic.

So there have been two models of MP component > s-vid converter then?
post #443 of 694
I think kjbawc has one of each, maybe he'll chime in.
post #444 of 694
I've been away, attending a film festival. I'll have to check, I don't recall for sure if they are metal or plastic, but I think the one from Monoprice did have a metal cover. I just used the Monoprice one to dub the rare and costly commercial DVD of Candy, and the DVD I made from it looked fine. The original DVD looked grainy, even when viewed by HDMI directly from my Oppo. The dubbed DVD had the same grain, no blurring.
post #445 of 694
Well it was back in stock for a while, now it's back out of stock
I guess they must be selling them but it's too bad not more people have reviewed them, although if everyone else has as much hassle as I did posting my review they probably gave up. Took me 3 times and each review kept getting shorter as I got less patient an email to MP support didn't help much
post #446 of 694
For anyone who may be interested,the HDFury 2 is back in stock at Sewell direct.com. for $139.95 w/free shipping. The HDFury is a HDMI>Component video converter,works fantastically well,and IMO,the best use for it is to keep the analog hole open after the analog sunset turns into the analog night. I don't know if the unit ships with the power supply or not. If not,then you can probably buy one at Radio Shack. G.
post #447 of 694
Boy that sucks, since I paid more than that for mine.

Mine actually works better without the power supply - go figure.
post #448 of 694
out of stock already
post #449 of 694
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

Boy that sucks, since I paid more than that for mine.

Mine actually works better without the power supply - go figure.


Paco,you bought the F-3,that was 90 bucks more.This is the F-2 $179 bucks from the manufacturer. The $139.95 price makes me think that the power supply might be missing,which is why MP sold them so cheaply. How in the world does your converter work better w/o the power supply? G.
post #450 of 694
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

out of stock already


Out of stock already???? WOW i guess people must be anxious to get them while they still can.Ya know,i just got an email from them yesterday saying that the F-2 was back in stock. So,in what?? 24 hrs.,maybe a little more,they sold out!! Well...it's good to know that at least SOME people have a little foresight. To many people only seem to have hindsight. G.
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