Sharp XV-Z12000MK2 - Page 2

Originally Posted by rawise

Anyone have comments on the Z12000MK2 in comparison with the Samsung H710? I currently have the H710 and am very happy with picture quality, but long-term reliability is a concern. I am considering the Z12000MK2 as a backup/alternate. I've read the pro reviews, and the projectors sound comparable in terms of picture quality -- but I've not aware of any direct side-by-side comparison. Any personal experiences on how the two compare?

Originally Posted by floridapoolboy

The only way size and fan noise wouldn't matter is if the PJ was mounted well behind the seating position, which many can't do. All things being equal a large PJ would be expected to either be bright OR quiet, and hopefully both. To have a physically imposing PJ be both loud and not very bright seems a bit strange in this day and age! Since the Mits HC3000 has been said to rival DC3 PJs in terms of PQ, is much smaller, and much quieter, why again would the Sharp be the better choice? I have a converted living room that is my HT, and this behemoth would be mounted 1 foot behind my seated position, clearly visible when entering the house. It's gonna be a tough sell for WAF, I need to know that the PQ is worth the battle!

Originally Posted by Lawguy

Here is another review by Cine4Home. Pick your translator.

http://cine4home.de/tests/projektore...harpZ12000.htm

I will try to address your concerns.

First, the HC3000 is not the equal of the 12k in PQ. It is really that simply. If you want better PQ go with the Sharp. If you are willing to sacrifice PQ for smaller size or less noise, go with the Mitsu.

It is not fair to label the 12k as "not bright." It is not as bright with the Iris closed. If you want it brighter, open the iris. It is simple as that. I run it that way myself when I am watching sports and don't want to be in a dark room. The HC3000 has no iris to close. Isn't it nice to have the option?

As for fan noise and size, pick your poison. Have you seen the dimensions of a Ruby, Pearl, Z20000 or RS1? Big projectors tend to be better. I can understand why you don't want to hear the fan. If you think it will bother you that much, don't get this projector. The projector is about 2 to 2 1/2 feet from my head. I hear it when it starts up. I have never been distracted by it during a movie. This is not a guarantee because it might bother you. Just my experience.

How do you plan to mount your projector?

Originally Posted by BobL

A lot of the bigger PJs aren't that bright but are bigger in size such as the Marantz. They are built for the long term reliability and the light engine with larger lens takes more room. I've seen both the Mits and 12K and the 12K is the winner for PQ. If you can't live with its shortcomings then trade off for a PJ with lesser PQ at this price point. Life can be about compromises and tradeoffs. The only problem is we want it all! Believe me I understand that concept all too well.

There are options for making it quieter such as a hush box or building it into a soffit/tray on the back wall if the noise bothers you. A hush box would be huge and might not meet the WAF but a tray/soffit is usually quite acceptable. Just some food for thought.

Rawise,

The 12K is an upgrade from the 710. The 12K you will notice deeper blacks (the 710 doesn't have great blacks in comparison), shadow detail is similar with the 12K doing slightly better than the 710 but the difference won't be night and day. The 710 is brighter and has better accuracy out of the box without calibration. I agree with Lawguy don't buy it as a backup and I'd probably wait for a 1080P to upgrade. With projector prices dropping everyday you'll soon be getting 1080P PJs when you open a checking account.

Hope this helps.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobL

bdbaba,

This is a big upgrade over the 900. It won't be as loud as a Sharp 3K right over your head but certainly louder than the 900.

Sharp's warranty is 1 year and 90 days on the bulb. The place selling this unit extends the warranty to 2 years and also has a 90 day return policy. I can't tell you how Sharp's service is because we have yet to have a failure with a Sharp PJ. Knock on wood.

2000 hours is correct irregardless of which mode it is in. Trust me at 2000 hours you will want a new bulb. You could probably reset it and run it in bright mode for a while but some of the higher end PJs have lower hour ratings because they know the color shifts of the bulbs as they start to decrease in brightness. Runco, Marantz, JVC, Sony Qualias are good examples. I know someone that put 4400 hours on an Infocus 777 which is only rated for 1500 hours. I personally would replace it at the recommended time and keep the old lamp for an emergency backup.

Hope this helps.

Bob

Originally Posted by Lawguy

My projector is set up about a foot behind the seating area and 18 inches above.

Originally Posted by Rick Guynn

Does this mean the bottom of your screen is 18" above the seating areas as well? I am trying to make sure I understand the lens shift range as explained in the manual. The way they have it outlined in the manual (as mentioned in a previous post) seems like a severe limitation of a feature that should allow for alot of flexibility.

IOW, if I read the manual correctly, the lens must be outside of the perimeter of the projected image regardless of the lens shift. Is this correct?

RG

Originally Posted by pennstater

Where this projector really "shines" is with the iris closed and the room totally darkened. The depth of image yeilded a life like picture that quickly made me forget the bright image I had favored from the 7200 and the Sanyo PLV70 that will now be retired.

Originally Posted by erniec

My 12k Mark II arrives tomorrow. I currently using HDMI cable with my Panny AX100, but since this PJ does not have a HDMI input I will need an adaptor.

Does anyone know if the unit comes with a HDMI to DVI adapter in the box?

Originally Posted by Rick Guynn

Does this mean the bottom of your screen is 18" above the seating areas as well? I am trying to make sure I understand the lens shift range as explained in the manual. The way they have it outlined in the manual (as mentioned in a previous post) seems like a severe limitation of a feature that should allow for alot of flexibility.

IOW, if I read the manual correctly, the lens must be outside of the perimeter of the projected image regardless of the lens shift. Is this correct?

RG

Originally Posted by pennstater

That is what I found. Sitting on a table without lens shift the bottom of the image is even with the middle of the lens. Lens shift is only in the up direction. Conversely inverted from the ceiling the top will be in line with the middle of the lens and shift will only be down. The lens center cannot be within the image. This does somewhat compromise shelf placement behind my seating area. That's why I'll go with ceiling mount.

Originally Posted by Lawguy

Mine is shelf mounted about 5 feet off the gound. I could raise it a bit more if I were inclined but after that, I would have to flip the projector over as if I were ceiling mounting it.

Originally Posted by pennstater

Maybe I'm missing something. I'd prefer to take full advantage of the high power screen by setting it on a 42" high table behind my seating area and projecting to my pull up screen that begins 24" from the floor. Without keystone, I can't get the unit to do this. I would end up with the bottom of the image about 45" off the floor. But how did you do it on a 5 Foot shelf?