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post #1471 of 6042
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Originally Posted by yellowcanary73 View Post

Does the Samsung 1200 play DVD-R or DVD+R I read some where that it does not which means I could not play my home DVDS or my backups.


My backups are all on Verbatim DVD +R and have played beautifully without problems , so far.
post #1472 of 6042
Played Black Hawk Down and had one freeze in the movie that I had to skip to the next chapter. It happened towards the end as the one guy had the severed artery in his leg that couldnt be fixed and they were telling him he was going to make it.

Could it be the disc that mine and others are freezing or is it likely the player?

I am having a weird occurace with my 1200. Ill put in a disc and it pops it back out and says cant play or just "open" then it ejects. This happened to me with Black Snake Moan and The Goonies sd version. Then I went back later and tried it again and it recognized them. Anyone else have this problem?

Also, seems strange that my set is 1280x720, but when I try to set the resolution to 720p it says that my set doest accept this resolution.

Update- Black snake moan was a difficult disc. Finally got it to load up, but when I hit start movie it went to 00:00 and nothing happened. Had to go back to main menu and start the movie by selecting chapter 1. I dont know if my freezing issues are the same as the syncing that other people are having. Scenes will stutter and the audio will come and go with the pausing and sometimes the people talking will be about a second off of the audio. When I pause then hit play again it takes care of the sync but the freezing keeps happening. First scene that this freezing happened I cleaned off the disc and everything was fine. Eventually at the 2nd to last chapter it froze to where wiping the disc off wouldnt fix it.

I also had this problem with saw 3. I am hoping it is the disc and not the player, because if it is the player it will definately go back. I need something that each movie I put in I am not worrying about if it will play.
post #1473 of 6042
Any word if there's an fw update 1.2 soon?
post #1474 of 6042
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Originally Posted by plouie10 View Post

Update
You are correct, doesn't matter if the disc is in the player or not. I did many comparisons with component and hdmi with blu-ray and regular dvd's. On this tv with this player I could not tell any difference with my eyes. The upscaler in the Sony is top notch. So until they fix this handshake issue, I am quite happy with using component to avoid the handshake issue.
Phil

Really? I never cared for the upscaler in the SXRD. With every upscaling DVD player I've owned, I preferred the player to the TV. I stopped comparing them after my A1. It does have a superb deinterlacer though.
J
post #1475 of 6042
[quote=micah323]
I am having a weird occurace with my 1200. Ill put in a disc and it pops it back out and says cant play or just "open" then it ejects. This happened to me with Black Snake Moan and The Goonies sd version. Then I went back later and tried it again and it recognized them. Anyone else have this problem?
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I've had the same problem on both POTCs, Casino Royale and The Prestige (ie says it can't play and opens). Haven't had the problem on othersAlso have had it hang up after the previews. After several retries, it finally works. It only seems to happen on 1st time plays. Once it works on a particular disc, it seems to work every time I load again (like it remembers that the disc is good). My guess is it's a firmware problem (I'm at 1.0).
post #1476 of 6042
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Originally Posted by Big J View Post

Really? I never cared for the upscaler in the SXRD. With every upscaling DVD player I've owned, I preferred the player to the TV. I stopped comparing them after my A1. It does have a superb deinterlacer though.
J

Could just be my age and eyes For me anyways, there is no difference. Of course to the more decerning eyes, there could be a big difference.
post #1477 of 6042
I was watching the SD Version of King Kong last night on my 1200, and once every ten minutes or so, the audio would drop out for a split second. I checked on both analog and digital outputs and it did it on both. Never had this happen before on any disk. Anything to be concerned about?

Mike
post #1478 of 6042
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Originally Posted by mroot View Post

I was watching the SD Version of King Kong last night on my 1200, and once every ten minutes or so, the audio would drop out for a split second. I checked on both analog and digital outputs and it did it on both. Never had this happen before on any disk. Anything to be concerned about?

Mike

I get the same thing on every SD disk I play. You're not alone. I'm racking all these problems up to some kind of HDMI handshake issue that will hopefully be resolved in the next firmware fix.
post #1479 of 6042
I've had mine in my rack for a week, going directly into a JVC RS-1. There seem to be too many minor glitches for my tastes right now. Between the lip-sync issue on 1080p/24, the occasional audio drop-outs, and the HDMI audio display thing that drives me nuts, I seem to be making too many adjustments than I am comfortable with to be satisfied with this player. I am content to use my Sony BDP-S1 as my primary BD player until the firmware updates can bring this player up to speed.
post #1480 of 6042
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Originally Posted by valmont74 View Post

Any word if there's an fw update 1.2 soon?

When I checked with their 2nd level support they said there is no firm date yet. Nor did they indicate what the new firmware would include (fixes, function, etc.).
post #1481 of 6042
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When I checked with their 2nd level support they said there is no firm date yet. Nor did they indicate what the new firmware would include (fixes, function, etc.).

Their website seems to have been updated.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...o&type=blu_ray
post #1482 of 6042
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Originally Posted by nakenergy View Post

Their website seems to have been updated.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...o&type=blu_ray

I just tried to access the 1200 part of the Samsung web site and got an internal error. Something is afoot there. Hopefully, it will be a new update.
Mark
post #1483 of 6042
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Originally Posted by krisjan View Post

I just tried to access the 1200 part of the Samsung web site and got an internal error. Something is afoot there. Hopefully, it will be a new update.
Mark

Nope. Still v1.0
post #1484 of 6042
Anyone know if there are discreet on/off remote codes for this player?
post #1485 of 6042
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Originally Posted by Barbarian View Post

Between the lip-sync issue on 1080p/24, the occasional audio drop-outs, and the HDMI audio display thing that drives me nuts, I seem to be making too many adjustments than I am comfortable with to be satisfied with this player.

You can eliminate those annoying HDMI audio not supported messages by disabling on-screen displays in the Setup menu. However, I still see a stutter at every chapter stop and I wonder if it's because the player is stupidly checking for HDMI audio support at every chapter stop.
post #1486 of 6042
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Originally Posted by crbaldwin View Post

Anyone know if there are discreet on/off remote codes for this player?

Samsung doesn't understand the concept of discrete codes, apparantly. I don't know of any Samsung products that have them.

As the 1200's Play button causes the unit to power up, you can probably work out macros that combine the Play and Power commands to mimic discrete codes.
post #1487 of 6042
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Originally Posted by RoboRay View Post

As the 1200's Play button causes the unit to power up, you can probably work out macros that combine the Play and Power commands to mimic discrete codes.

Thanks. Not ideal but I guess I will have to figure something out...
post #1488 of 6042
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Originally Posted by ANSEK View Post

The only special setting I have is I turned off "Noise Reduction" in the player.

I second comments from others. Regardless of the output resolution there is no way the A1 does a better job of upconversion than the BD-P1200. I closeted one of the most amazing upconverting DVD players for this unit and I am very particular about my video.

As further evidence of this, Toshiba's high end model (XA2) uses the same deinterlacing chip as the P1200
post #1489 of 6042
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Originally Posted by buckloons View Post

As further evidence of this, Toshiba's high end model (XA2) uses the same deinterlacing chip as the P1200

As my setup can only accept 1080i input, it's my TV that's deinterlacing the picture, both for the A1 and P1200. I'll double check and make sure that I disable sharpness and noise reduction. Maybe that's what's causing the softness of the picture.

I do like blu-ray movies on this player, though as other have noted, I have seen audio dropouts on SD material. I've only noticed it in the beginnings of movies though, not throughout. Hopefully, these issues are resolved in later firmware updates. I also have to be careful not to fast forward, then rewind to view a certain sceen, this seems to lock up the Samsung as well. I've had to power it off several times due to this.
post #1490 of 6042
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Originally Posted by Barbarian View Post

I've had mine in my rack for a week, going directly into a JVC RS-1. There seem to be too many minor glitches for my tastes right now. Between the lip-sync issue on 1080p/24, the occasional audio drop-outs, and the HDMI audio display thing that drives me nuts, I seem to be making too many adjustments than I am comfortable with to be satisfied with this player. I am content to use my Sony BDP-S1 as my primary BD player until the firmware updates can bring this player up to speed.

I had a minor lip-sync issue at 1080i.
J
post #1491 of 6042
if the disc skips/freezes for a split second continuously and then the audio is out of sync a little bit, is that the player or the disc?

Also, does everyone's remote have a delay when you hit a button? It seems like it takes to long for the response.
post #1492 of 6042
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Originally Posted by micah323 View Post

if the disc skips/freezes for a split second continuously and then the audio is out of sync a little bit, is that the player or the disc?

Also, does everyone's remote have a delay when you hit a button? It seems like it takes to long for the response.

It could be either or both. The lip=sync issue is easy to fix-just pause it for a sec, then start again.
J
post #1493 of 6042
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Originally Posted by micah323 View Post

if the disc skips/freezes for a split second continuously and then the audio is out of sync a little bit, is that the player or the disc?

Also, does everyone's remote have a delay when you hit a button? It seems like it takes to long for the response.

#1...as the previous person mentioned, it could be both. But make sure the disc is clean...no fingerprints, dust, even food, yes food . I rent a lot of Blu Ray and HD dvd's from Blockbuster and clean each one before playing. I've not had any problems with playing Blu ray's in my 1200 except Deja Vu, which I think the majority of people did have some problems with that title. Even brand new movies that I buy, I clean them first.

#2...the remote does take abit longer than a regular hometheater remote, a slight delay like you mentioned. Does not bother me now. Just make sure you don't press one button and then another before the first button you pressed takes effect. Caused my player to lock up twice when I first got it. BTW...my HD-A2 remote has a slight delay too, but not as much as the 1200.
post #1494 of 6042
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Originally Posted by muellerfilm View Post

Hello there, give me a break I was not doing another comparison with this Second Samsung player I was just relating my experience when watching a Blu Ray disk at home.

I did other comparison this morning at my office with The Tailor in Panama Blu Ray disk In the BDP1200 and the BDPS1 This movie has soft look to it. Looks like they transferred it off the internegative instead of the interpositive so I wanted to see how it compared to the Sony BDPS1. Many seem to point out that there is no benefit from having the 24P setting turned on so for this side-by-side comparison it was turned off. The sharpness setting on the Samsung was also turned off. Both units using HDMI and both set to 1080P. The test was conducted 14x14 room that has no windows and the lights in the room were turned off. Two Samsung 5296 Panels were put side by side and both panels have been calibrated the same. I started the Tailor in Panama Disks in both players and let them run. Because I did my own comparison on I what I thought. This time I let my employee's rate, which one they liked better. These people make for good testers as we are post production facility and many work with color correcting timing ECT. I covered up the players so no one knew which one was Sony or Samsung. Out of the fifteen people that came through to look at the players twelve of the fifteen liked the Samsung BDP1200 better. I did the same test with Into the Blue Blu Ray disk and out of fifteen people fourteen preferred the Samsung BDP1200. I did one last test with ten people looking at BD-R BDMV. This disk was Hi Def 24P footage shot on a Sony F900. This disk was made on Sonys BLU Print software at the highest quality settings. All ten people peferred the Samsung. This what I wrote about a few days ago as the night and day difference. Comments on the BD-R fototage ranged from pixelation and noise very noticable on the Sony BDPS1 to not looking as sharp as the camera would pan or the actors moved around. You just would not see any of this with the Samsung BDP1200 the images looked great no noise or pixelation, ect. On a side note we produced a disk with DVDIt PRO authoring software on a different blu ray burner and the results were the same. That DVDit PRO software gives you alot bang for the buck.
So there you go real people looking at what they saw and drawing real unbiased opinions.

Well that's all for now (going on holiday) and see all of you at NAB later this month

Hope you had a good holiday and thanks for a well done and extensive comparison. My question is regarding what the 1200 outputs through the 5.1. rca analogue output. I use a 5 channel tube pre-amp and no decoder. Have you been able to confirm what options are available (Dolby HD, Uncompressed multi channel Linear CPM or DTS HD) and how does it sound. I have had a brief listen to the Sony bdps1, which sounded great through the analogue output. There seems to be conflicting reports and Samsung has not answered my enquiry.Thanks, Ed
post #1495 of 6042
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Originally Posted by RoboRay View Post

Samsung doesn't understand the concept of discrete codes, apparantly. I don't know of any Samsung products that have them.

The Samsung HDTV's have quite a few discrete codes, although I had to go through all 256 possibilities to find them. I posted the HDTV discrete codes on RemoteCenteral.com (for Pronto). It's a hassle as takes about 3 hours to reverse engineer the IR codes, build a set of button pages and then try them out. Most this stuff to do this is on RemoteCentral, but it's not all that obvious. Of course it would be nice if someone had already done this for the 1200!

I'm considering buying a 1200, but haven't made the leap yet. If I do, I'll likely dig through the unused codes to see what shows up.
post #1496 of 6042
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Originally Posted by tubegem View Post

Hope you had a good holiday and thanks for a well done and extensive comparison. My question is regarding what the 1200 outputs through the 5.1. rca analogue output. I use a 5 channel tube pre-amp and no decoder. Have you been able to confirm what options are available (Dolby HD, Uncompressed multi channel Linear CPM or DTS HD) and how does it sound. I have had a brief listen to the Sony bdps1, which sounded great through the analogue output. There seems to be conflicting reports and Samsung has not answered my enquiry.Thanks, Ed

Ed, the 1200 does output uncompressed 5.1 audio over the multichannel analog cables. And I do believe it sounds noticeably 'fuller', or some other nice adjective, than digital optical/coax audio. The only problem is that your AVR may not handle the LFE channel correctly, i.e., it may come out ~ 10 dB too weak. You will have to try to find out if your AVR is one of the ones that does it correctly or not.
post #1497 of 6042
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Originally Posted by ferrari fan View Post

I rent a lot of Blu Ray and HD dvd's from Blockbuster and clean each one before playing. I've not had any problems with playing Blu ray's in my 1200 except Deja Vu, which I think the majority of people did have some problems with that title. Even brand new movies that I buy, I clean them first.

Do you have some good tips re cleaning the BR discs? TIA, Bill
post #1498 of 6042
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Ed, the 1200 does output uncompressed 5.1 audio over the multichannel analog cables. And I do believe it sounds noticeably 'fuller', or some other nice adjective, than digital optical/coax audio. The only problem is that your AVR may not handle the LFE channel correctly, i.e., it may come out ~ 10 dB too weak. You will have to try to find out if your AVR is one of the ones that does it correctly or not.

I have a denon 3805 so am curious about hooking up the analog to get the uncompressed sound. I just dont want to run all the cables and have and lfe channel problem or not notice a difference in sound.
post #1499 of 6042
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Do you have some good tips re cleaning the BR discs? TIA, Bill

I use this

J
post #1500 of 6042
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Originally Posted by Big J View Post

I use this

J

Thanks much! Bill
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