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post #271 of 6042
4/19/07 at 7:21am
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Originally Posted by DTV TiVo Dealer View Post

Nescio ^^ we have better prices for AVS Forum members and have purchased dedicated banners here with links to the special, private AVS Forum page.

I was confused but now I think I have figured it out so I thought I would share what I found out.

Robert has a banner add that appears at the top of the AVS forum page advertising this unit. If you click on it you can buy it for $650. That is apparently the AVS forum discount Robert was talking about. If you go straight to his website and order from there the price is higher.

The confusion is that the banner add doesn't appear all the time. It looks like it alternates with at least one other ad. So it seems you need to wait for it to appear in order to get the AVS pricing.

Or is there another way Robert?
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post #272 of 6042
4/19/07 at 10:07am
You can find all of Robert's AVS specials here: http://www.*********************/avstc.htm
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post #273 of 6042
4/19/07 at 10:47am
I am using a 1200 with an RS1 projector set at 1080p and going through the radiient technologies/DVDO hdmi switcher. Turn on the 1200 screen flashes black then blue a few times then the Samsung emblem comes up. Put in a BD movie same black then blue screen flashes, then the movie starts up no problen. The flashing screens appears to be a temporary handshake issue. The switcher may be playing a role in this synching/ handshake screen flashes. Here is the problem I am having: I have no problem selecting the 24frames option. If I leave the player on and watch a movie or if I leave the player on and then switch movies the player stays engaged in 24f mode, but if I power off the player and then turn it back on it reverts back to the default (non 24 frames mode). Every time I turn on the player I have to re-engage 24f mode. I think the switcher is the culprit and I will remove it to see if this is the reason why the 1200 keeps losing its setting. Anyone else having this problem with or without a switcher in the chain? Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks
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post #274 of 6042
4/19/07 at 11:02am
For Robrt,

Could you please check your website, still charging for shipping?
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post #275 of 6042
4/19/07 at 11:51am
I just ordered it from that link, no shipping charge, great price.

Hopefully I can get it next week. Now I have to go and look at all the movies in my netflix queue and see if they are available in Blu-Ray.
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post #276 of 6042
4/19/07 at 1:09pm
Hi,

This may have been covered previously but what is the likelihood that Samsung will provide a firmware upgrade to allow the enhanced audio codecs to be supported on the P1200?

Also will the P1200 support the BD 1.1 standard being released in October? Does anyone know what the hardware specs are for the P1200 as regards 1.1 , i.e. does it have any built-in memory, etc?

I'm trying to decide on picking up the P1200 now or waiting for the 3rd generation (supporting 1.1) which will probably be released at year-end?

Thanks,
xaos

P.S. Any indication on whether BD-UP5000 will support 1.1?
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post #277 of 6042
4/19/07 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by xaoslau View Post

This may have been covered previously but what is the likelihood that Samsung will provide a firmware upgrade to allow the enhanced audio codecs to be supported on the P1200?

I believe it's been posted that the chipset supports True HD, but not DTS MA. Will a future software update enable True HD? No one knows.

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Also will the P1200 support the BD 1.1 standard being released in October? Does anyone know what the hardware specs are for the P1200 as regards 1.1 , i.e. does it have any built-in memory, etc?

Don't know about the memory, but it's been posted that the ethernet port will not support BD Live and is present only for software updates.

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I'm trying to decide on picking up the P1200 now or waiting for the 3rd generation (supporting 1.1) which will probably be released at year-end?

I bought a 1200 now because the BD-J features weren't important to me - I just want the movie. If they're important to you, a better choice would be to wait or to buy a PS3, the most future proof of BD players.

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P.S. Any indication on whether BD-UP5000 will support 1.1?

By mandate, if it's released after 10/1/07, it must support BD-J.
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post #278 of 6042
4/20/07 at 12:44pm
DHL delivered mine this morning from Dell.
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post #279 of 6042
4/20/07 at 2:13pm
I placed my order with Dell on April 5. I got tired of waiting for the BD-P1200 to ship (today was the ship date but customer service called and said it wouldn't go out today). I cancelled my Dell order. I have now placed an order with Value Electronics. I hope they actually have these in stock and can get it to me ASAP. Wishing for a better experience than with Dell!
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post #280 of 6042
4/20/07 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by krisjan View Post

I placed my order with Dell on April 5. I got tired of waiting for the BD-P1200 to ship (today was the ship date but customer service called and said it wouldn't go out today). I cancelled my Dell order. I have now placed an order with Value Electronics. I hope they actually have these in stock and can get it to me ASAP. Wishing for a better experience than with Dell!

I did exactly the same thing. I got sick of waiting for Dell, and cancelled my order. Placed with VE this morning.
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post #281 of 6042
4/20/07 at 4:49pm
I just purchased the new Samsung BluRay DVD player BDP-1200 and hooked it up to my 5070. In the setup menu I can set the 24fps selection to on, but when I select 1080P under resolution it say this TV does not support this resolution and defaults to 1080i. However when I play a BluRay disc the Pioneer will display 1080P in the display window, even with 1080i selected as the DVD output and when I play a regular DVD it will only display 1080i. Yes is does also work with 480P and 720P. Does this sound normal. I thought the 5070 excepted 1080P signals and would allow that resolution to be selected as an output on the DVD player.
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post #282 of 6042
4/20/07 at 5:21pm
None of the Blu-ray players will output DVD at 1080p24. DVD playback is limited to 720p, 1080i, or 1080p60. The Pioneer, Sony, and Samsung players output Blu-ray features as 1080p24. Keep in mind that only the actual film content on the Blu-ray disk is 1080p24; other content on a Blu-ray title -- such as the menus and extras-- may be output at either 1080p60 or 1080i60.

Once you enable 1080p24 output on the Samsung BD-P1200, you need to turn the player off and then back on for that setting to take effect. Again, you will only get 1080p24 output on the Blu-ray movie itself, not other content.
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post #283 of 6042
4/20/07 at 5:55pm
BFDTV- thanks I can change the 24fps selction to on in the setup menu of the DVD player but when I select the 1080P output, I get a error message that says your TV does not support this resolution. The Pioneer 5070 specs say it will except a 1080P 24hz input.
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post #284 of 6042
4/20/07 at 9:16pm
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Originally Posted by Yogi55 View Post

BFDTV- thanks I can change the 24fps selction to on in the setup menu of the DVD player but when I select the 1080P output, I get a error message that says your TV does not support this resolution. The Pioneer 5070 specs say it will except a 1080P 24hz input.

Are you connecting the Samsung directly to the Pioneer -- and not running it through some other device -- with a HDMI cable? Blu-ray players will not output 1080p over component.

If the answer to both questions is yes, then I don't know what to tell you. It could be the cable or it could be some compatibility issue between the two, similar to what Kris Deering reported with his display.
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post #285 of 6042
4/21/07 at 5:13am
The BMP-BD10 just got a firmware release adding Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. I hope Samsung releases a firmware upgrade for the BD-P1200 to add Dolby TrueHD. I love the picture quality but the sound is killing me.

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/c...d10/index.html
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post #286 of 6042
4/21/07 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

Are you connecting the Samsung directly to the Pioneer -- and not running it through some other device -- with a HDMI cable? Blu-ray players will not output 1080p over component.

If the answer to both questions is yes, then I don't know what to tell you. It could be the cable or it could be some compatibility issue between the two, similar to what Kris Deering reported with his display.


Yes I am connecting the Samsung directly to the Pioneer 5070 with a HDMI cable. I have e-mails in to both product manufactures tech supports, I will see what they say. Thanks
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post #287 of 6042
4/21/07 at 7:40am
Yogi

In your 5070's picture menu, under proadjust, do you have pure cinima set to "advanced"?

I think that has something to do with turning on 72hz.
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post #288 of 6042
4/21/07 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by Yogi55 View Post

BFDTV- thanks I can change the 24fps selction to on in the setup menu of the DVD player but when I select the 1080P output, I get a error message that says your TV does not support this resolution. The Pioneer 5070 specs say it will except a 1080P 24hz input.

I think the problem is that the player is saying that the TV does not support 1080p resolution because the TV's native resolution is only 1365 x 768 even though Pioneer says it will accept a 1080p/24hz signal (sounds like an HDMI handshaking quirk between the Samsung player and the Pioneer TV).

But I could be wrong as usual.
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post #289 of 6042
4/21/07 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by ANSEK View Post

The BMP-BD10 just got a firmware release adding Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. I hope Samsung releases a firmware upgrade for the BD-P1200 to add Dolby TrueHD. I love the picture quality but the sound is killing me.

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/c...d10/index.html

Is it REALLY SO BAD? Why is the sound SO BAD on this unit?
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post #290 of 6042
4/21/07 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by Steve1515 View Post

I think the problem is that the player is saying that the TV does not support 1080p resolution because the TV's native resolution is only 1365 x 768 even though Pioneer says it will accept a 1080p/24hz signal (sounds like an HDMI handshaking quirk between the Samsung player and the Pioneer TV).

But I could be wrong as usual.

Update- So I played around a little bit more this a.m. powering the TV and Blu-Ray players on a different times, unplugging and re-plugging in the HDMI cables and now I still get the resolution error message, but I can get a Blu-Ray disc to play with the 1080P resolution selected along with the 24fps on. But when I play a regular DVD it will not play with the 1080HP resolution selected(24fps is on). If I switch it to 1080i with 24fps on the regular DVD will play. ?? This is a pain though because I would need to remember to switch it back to 1080i after I play a BluRay DVD just in case I want to play a regular.
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post #291 of 6042
4/21/07 at 11:07am
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Originally Posted by Yogi55 View Post

But when I play a regular DVD it will not play with the 1080HP resolution selected(24fps is on). If I switch it to 1080i with 24fps on the regular DVD will play.

As mentioned above, no Blu-ray player will output DVDs @ 24p. Blu-ray movie content is stored on disk as 1080p24, so the player can output that directly. However, DVD content is stored on disk as 480i60. It's possible that Samsung could be the first to add 1080p24 output capability for DVD with a future software update, but as of right now, the Samsung outputs DVDs as 1080p60 like the Pioneer and Sony Blu-ray players.
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post #292 of 6042
4/21/07 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by G-Rex View Post

I am using a 1200 with an RS1 projector set at 1080p and going through the radiient technologies/DVDO hdmi switcher. Turn on the 1200 screen flashes black then blue a few times then the Samsung emblem comes up. Put in a BD movie same black then blue screen flashes, then the movie starts up no problen. The flashing screens appears to be a temporary handshake issue. The switcher may be playing a role in this synching/ handshake screen flashes. Here is the problem I am having: I have no problem selecting the 24frames option. If I leave the player on and watch a movie or if I leave the player on and then switch movies the player stays engaged in 24f mode, but if I power off the player and then turn it back on it reverts back to the default (non 24 frames mode). Every time I turn on the player I have to re-engage 24f mode. I think the switcher is the culprit and I will remove it to see if this is the reason why the 1200 keeps losing its settting. Anyone else having this problem with or without a switcher in the chain? Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks


I have the same problem with a Pioneer pdp-5071. The player is directly connected via HDMI to the plasma and the flashing varies between 5 to 10 seconds. Really Annoying.
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post #293 of 6042
4/21/07 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by stacy11 View Post

Is it REALLY SO BAD? Why is the sound SO BAD on this unit?

Next Generation CODECs are like HD video, once you have experienced them anything less just isn't the same.
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post #294 of 6042
4/21/07 at 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by ANSEK View Post

Next Generation CODECs are like HD video, once you have experienced them anything less just isn't the same.

Got it! Well, since I have a Theta Casablanca II, with NO hdmi 1.1, let alone 1.3, I guess it won't much matter...By the time Theta gets around to a hdmi 1.3 switcher, and there are actually some Blu Ray Movies encoded with the new CODECS, I guess either Samsung will have made them availalbe via firmware upgrade, or I'll buy a new player! (The upgrade to the Theta will probably be VERY expensive in and of itself...) I'm thinkin' mid 2008, or later.
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post #295 of 6042
4/21/07 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by bfdtv View Post

As mentioned above, no Blu-ray player will output DVDs @ 24p. Blu-ray movie content is stored on disk as 1080p24, so the player can output that directly. However, DVD content is stored on disk as 480i60. It's possible that Samsung could be the first to add 1080p24 output capability for DVD with a future software update, but as of right now, the Samsung outputs DVDs as 1080p60 like the Pioneer and Sony Blu-ray players.

BFDTV- You broke the code, that is why the set up at the store worked with the BDP1200 hooked up to a Samsung DLP TV, when you played a regular DVD with the ouput resolution set to 1080P, because they did not have the 24fps enabled.
I wonder if the Pioneer excepts a 1080P60? Thanks
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post #296 of 6042
4/21/07 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by Nescio View Post

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post #297 of 6042
4/22/07 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by Yogi55 View Post

BFDTV- You broke the code, that is why the set up at the store worked with the BDP1200 hooked up to a Samsung DLP TV, when you played a regular DVD with the ouput resolution set to 1080P, because they did not have the 24fps enabled.
I wonder if the Pioneer excepts a 1080P60? Thanks


No the Pioneers only accept 1080p at 24p not 60p. At least the europeen models of 6G and 7G didn't. So that could be the reason.
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post #298 of 6042
4/22/07 at 8:48am
Finally got my unit installed into my system last night. I have the Samsung connected to my Optoma HD70 with a 35 foot hdmi cable and a monoprice 2x1 fmanual video switch and to a Sony DA7ES receiver through both the multichannel inputs and a coaxial digita cable. I am not so much worried about the sound as I will upgrade next winter/spring to a receiver that decodes the new formats, although the sound through the multichannel analog imputs was excellent. First movie I played was Eragon, no problems, great pic and sound.

Now here are my issues:

1. I can't seem to get the player to allow me to output 1080p/24 although supposedly there are others here using a HD70 in this manner. I tried turning it on again, off again, with a disc, without a disc etc. No luck.

2. Lake House, second movie started freezing about half way through, cleaned disc, dried it, etc. finally gave up. Movie is from Netflix so I don't know, could just be a bad disc.

I'll try to experiment a little more tonight and do some standard DVD calibrations and get back.
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post #299 of 6042
4/22/07 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by Magic(tm) View Post

No the Pioneers only accept 1080p at 24p not 60p. At least the europeen models of 6G and 7G didn't. So that could be the reason.

Magic- your are correct. So here is the data.

Samsung BDP1200 output: (HDMI)

Blu-Ray-1080P/24fps,1080P/60fps, 1080i,720p,480p
DVD-1080/60fps,1080i,720P,480P

Pioneer 5070 will except: 1080P/24fps,1080i,720P,480P

So the issue becomes that if you want to watch a standard DVD you will either select 1080i,720P,480P and then switch to 1080P when you play a Blu-ray disc. Then after you watch the Blu-Ray disc you need to remeber to switch the player back to either 1080i,720P,480P in case you stick in a standard DVD. This is due to the Samsung BDP1200 not having an output select button on the remote or front panel so if you leave it in 1080P for a standard DVD, you will need to take the disc out and press the FF for 5 seconds to change the resolution.

Any better ideas?
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post #300 of 6042
4/22/07 at 12:33pm
Yogi,

Looks like generation 2 still needs some work.

If real estate isn't an issue, do you have another player that is as good or better than the Samsung for standard disc? If so, you might want to just use it.
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