Samsung BDP1200 Master/Owner's Thread - Page 12

Isn't Crank 7.1?

No. It's 6.1.

When you use analog outputs on some Blu-ray players, like the Panasonic, the surround channel is duplicated.

....and some preamps massage the side surrounds to come up with something for the rear surrounds.

I stumbled upon one at Best Buy and just bought it on the spot. It looks like one has to change his projector settings ever so slightly compared to a XA1. It looks like at first glance the XA1 is better for SD DVD. Can someone confirm?

Thanks all fro the great info...can't wait to get one of these. I've been trying to remain format neutral, but the recent releases on BD, combined with a new player that finally does what it should have done much earlier has tipped the scales. Every time I look at the releases available on HDDVD sitting next to the BD selections, I get thoroughly depressed.
Even though I love the Tosh HDXA2 for its solid performance, I find the releases lacking.

Greetings,

I picked one up and had to return it. I have the Panasonic which does not do 1080p/24. I have the Sony Pearl which can display it. The problem is that I have the Anthem AVM-50 SSP which has a Gennum Video processor. The Samsung would not allow the 24 frame option to be selected when I connect it to the Anthem.

I connected it directly to the projector and it worked with no problem. I am not unhappy with the Panasonic but wanted the 1080p/24 option. Keeping the Samsung without the 1080p/24 option would be pointless and connecting it directly to the projector and losing the advanced PCM audio is unaccpetable.

Is anyone else running the Samsung at 1080p/24 AND running the video through a receiver or SSP with HDMI 1.1 ?


Regards,

Yes, I am running my sammy at 1080p24 thru a Pioneer Elite 84 into a JVC RS1. I think someone mentioned having problems using the Anthem D2 in the chain though.

is Robert ( from ****************) out of town or something ?

seems like i can not reach him via email

Is the connection from BD player to the 84 via HDMI or multichannel analog, or via (old fashion) digital auido? Do you get the new HD audio, does it matter?

It is via HDMI. The only issue I am having is that I can only get PCM over HDMI, and not Bitstream. For the discs that don't have an advanced codec that the sammy can decode, I end up sending bitsream out of the sammy over an optical cable so that I can have my AVR do the decoding. The only reason I do this, is because my AVR doesn't boost the LFE by the needed 10db for PCM over HDMI (I haven't gone through the hassle of getting the firmware upgraded).

I would think about going over the multichannel analog, but I'll be adding a set of rear surrounds for a 7.1 system, and the avr doesn't do any of the fancy processing on the analogs.

Greetings,

Thanks Aaron. In speaking tech support at Anthem and Kris Deering the Sony BDP-S1 has no issues sending 1080p/24 through the Anthem nor does the Pioneer. To me it would have been simple just to have the Samsung output the settings rather than have it need to sense whether the display is capable of accpeting the 1080p/24 signal.


Regards,

Yes but then you have the dreaded 1080p/24 AVC issue with the Sony player. Has anyone tried out the Samsung to see if it outputs 24hz correctly on AVC material???

Just got them at my store an the picture is awsome. Is hooked up to a Samsung HLT5265F and it looks amazing. The player looks more refined and is faster to load than the Sony or BDP1000

Why should the picture look different than any other player? What is going to make a difference is advanced video (PIP) and advanced audio. This player has neither.

It does

Repost from previous thread...

Blu-ray output quality, based on benchmarks from Kris Deering and sspears:

1. Samsung BD-P1200
1. Pioneer Elite BDP-HD1
1. Sony BDP-S1
4. Panasonic DMP-BD10 (with 2.0 firmware)
5. Sony PS3
6. Panasonic DMP-BD10 (pre-2.0 firmware)
7. Samsung BD-P1000

The Pioneer, Samsung, and Sony are all ranked #1 because Kris Deering -- who conducted benchmarks -- said their output on movies was identical / indistinguishable. He said picture quality offered by those players "can't be any better" and can't be improved upon, with full resolution for luma and chroma, no CUE, no pixel cropping, and no clipping. Every other player is a step down. It's possible we'll see internal decoder improvements in the future that yield a slightly improved picture in some specific circumstances, but that's not something that would show up in a benchmark.

The output on the BD-P1200 and Sony BDP-S1 should be identical -- as far as you can tell with eyes -- on Blu-ray movies. Both are an improvement over the old Samsung BD-P1000. The BD-P1200 offers the highest quality DVD playback; it is also the only player to correctly deinterlace and output Blu-ray music / concert titles as 1080p.

Update

One could easily misinterpret the above ratings and conclude that there are significant differences in the output quality of these players. Blu-ray is a 1080p source, so it's going to look pretty damn good, regardless of the player. The player would have to do something seriously wrong for you to see comparatively poor output on a quality Blu-ray title.

As a practical matter, you aren't likely to see much, if any, difference between these players with a 50" screen viewed from 10 feet. The differences are most appreciable on much larger displays and front projection systems.

If you were to restate performance on a scale of 1-10 (10=best, 1=worst), the ratings might be more like this: These values are meant to illustrate a point. They should not be taken as definitive ratings on performance.

If you have a larger display and want to be absolutely sure that you are getting the best possible picture quality, then you choose one of the first three players. Then again, if you want Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD decoding, you may be willing to trade a little bit of picture quality -- which you won't even notice on most displays -- for those audio capabilities.

So between the Sony and the Samsung, which would be recommended? Whichever's cheaper, I guess, since they both put out the same picture quality?

Did anyone else get a 24.99 charge from VE? I placed my order on the 19'th, and then noticed a small charge on the 25'th. I'm wondering if that was done to make sure the CC was valid/working. Still no official word that anything has shipped. I guess I'll give them until Monday... I'm astounded by my own patience!

It will be worth the wait !

I would take the Samsung 1200. Its cheaper (if you get one since they are still rare) and has better SD DVD qually.

Did you order HD-DVE? Sounds about the right price.

Mine shipped from buy.com last night and will arrive on Monday. Glad to hear this player is on par with the pioneer because when I first saw the PRO-FHD1 connected to the pioneer my jaw hit the floor. Can't wait to truly unlock the potential of my FHD1 with this player and 1080p/24

According to my memory, and my invoice, I only ordered the Samsung bd-p1200 player.

I guess I'll call later in the day and ask what's up

I saw piles of them in Best Buy, so I don't think they're too rare.

So the Samsung is PERFECT for me EXCEPT one cannot set speaker distance for the analog output. (Heck, even my old $150 Pioneer DVD player let me do that.) Does the Sony permit that? Or, better, does anyone have any insight into whether a future firmware update for the Samsung might add this feature? (No I won't buy it until the firmware actually exists -- been burned that way before -- but it would give me something to look forward to :-)

I called VE and they said they are 99% sure they will get the players in Monday and ship them out Monday.

Fun.

Yahoo!!!

Was at Best Buy today and the BD-P1200 is on sale for $749.99. That's $50.00 off their regular price which is still the full msrp But I'm smiling BIG time as I ordered mine from Robert at Value Electronics for $100.00 less than Best Buys sale price AND no tax, and FREE shipping, not to mention it's double boxed. THANKS ROBERT.

I'm new to this thread so I apologized if this has been answered already. I'm STRONGLY considering purchasing the BDP-1200. Has Samsung announced any plans to allow this player to send Dolby TrueHD & DTS-HD via bitstream? I really bugs me that this player doesn't support these codecs even in the bitstream form but the PS3 can?

If you are referring to internal decoding of lossless codecs - No - Samsung has made no such announcement, nor is one soon expected. If you are referring to passing the bitstream to a AVR for decoding via HDMI 1.3 - it already has that ability.