Aerial Acoustics Owners Thread - Page 27

Thanks very much for the feed back, the problem with Michael Kelly is that 3 months could turn into 3 years, that is why I have been considering looking for a used cc5b in cherry, pretty scarce. Can you tell me how far from the back wall do you have the 5b, it is a beast and if I did go with it it would end up pretty close against the wall.


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Question for LR5 Users:

I am using three LR5's across the front of my home theater "area" of a 6,000 ft^3 open basement floorplan. Due to the size and openness of my area I know that I need to use at least two subwoofers.

What subs have others been using that integrate well with the LR5's? I know the obvious answer might be Sw12's, but, I don't have the cash to purchase two. My second choice would be the Seaton Submersive, but, buying two would be above $5,000. I would consider buying only one, but, I am afraid I might have a difficult time balancing the bass response in my oddly shaped room. Even two used F113's would be over the $5,000 price point.

I am curious about the HSU ULS-15 in a dual drive system. They are fairly affordable at at around $1,000 per sub and seem to have positive feedback.

Just searching for opinions and experiences from other users to help me make my decision.I will also need to buy some type of EQ device. If it turns out that I need to go to the level of the Submersive then I will spread out the cost by buying one now and buying a second one when funds permit.

BTW, I want the subs to be tight, fast and controlled for music as well.

Thanks,
JD

^^ I sold my SW-12 and replaced it with 4 Hsu ULS-15s. I probably could have done with 2, but I had room and wanted to explore what was going on <20Hz. It's mostly superfluous or even unknown/unwanted stuff the producers didn't know was present.

Whatever you decide, start with 2, as that really improves the headroom and response uniformity around the seats.

What were your impressions when you switched from the ULS-15's to the submersives? Would you say it was a significant improvement? How big is your room?

Based on price: four (quad drive) ULS-15 costs about the same as two submersives.

Would there be any advantage to bi-amp my CC-3 center. Currently I'm using 1/2 of my Stereo Forte 4A amp. I'm wondering if any Aerial owners have gone the bi-wiring route.

^^ Unless your amp is clipping, it's better not to bi-amp. It doubles the amp's source impedance, which halves the damping factor.

Thanks for the input. I was just curious if I could get some use out of the right output on a stereo amp.

Looking for an OEM Sound Anchor Stand for an Aerial Acoustics CC5 center channel speaker either new or in 8/10 or better condition. There are no Aerial Acoustics dealers in my state or nearby states, so would appreciate somebody PM'ing me with a good source or with one for sale.

Thanks

MikeSp

Sound anchors will custom make any Aerial stand and ship it to you direct. They made a pair of LR3 stands for me recently.

That is certainly interesting -- they have posted on their website that the stands for aerial products must be purchased from an Aerial dealer. OTOH, I have custom stands from Sound Anchors for my JL F113 subs.

MikeSp

Maybe they did it for me because the LR3's are discontinued but if there is no dealer in your area they might make them for you.

Intresting development Michael Kelly has become the US & Canadian distributor for Gato Audio a Danish Highend company. Cost of the integrated is around $8000.

Hi all,

I had the pleasure of hearing some Aerial Acoustics speakers for the first time this week; LR5's with CC5 centre and SR3 surrounds. I have to be completely honest in never having heard of Aerial Acoustics until last week, despite 10 years in the 'hobby' - my excuse is, being based in the UK - only two dealers sell them - but even so, the company does seem to like flying well 'under the radar'!

Suffice it to say, I was very impressed. I am planning a speaker upgrade from my current MK S150's, and had set my sights on PMC IB2i's or the bigger MB2i's - until I heard the Aerials that is - the LR5's are now firmly on my short list! (As is the Datasat RS20i processor that was running them!)

Has anyone heard the PMC IB2i's or MB2i's that can offer any comparisons to the LR5's (or any of the other speakers from the Aerial Acoustics range that utilise the same drivers)?

Thanks in advance,

- Gareth

I contacted Sound Anchor via email about making a stand for my CC5 since there are no Aerial Acoustics dealers within 400+ miles and received NO RESPONSE.

MikeSp

I called them and very solid customer service I must say...

Hi Gareth,

I'm over in the UK for work and brought my LR3's with me. I left my CC3b and SR3s in storage in the US and already miss my HT set up. Aerial has a very addictive non fatigue sound to them for sure.

+1 ... Likewise here.

I have the7B's that I like alot, when the 9's came out I purchased them, but to me the 9's never sounded as good as the 7B's.I was expecting that sweet aerial sound on vocals but 9's did not seem to have it., I have no aerial dealers in my aerea, so I can not audition, I have a chance to purchase a pair of 7T's at a good price, but I am wary because of my experience on the 9"s, can anyone compare the 7T's sound to the 7B's ?

Smooth top end w/a more detailed tighter bottom end than the 7B's. The dealer I go to has recently sold around 4-5 pairs in the last 4 months. He runs them w/a Bryston 4B. If you like the 7B's you'll love the 7T's.

I recently inherited a pair of 10Ts, a CC5, a CC3, two Classe amps and a variety of Transparent audio cables. My current (modest) setup is in a 15x15 dedicated theater room with an overhead projector, small Vienna Acoustics speakers (Bach bookshelves x 4 + Theatro center), an ATI1505 5 channel amp (150w x 5) and a new Marantz AV7701 preamp/processor that recently replaces my trusty Lexicon DC-1. I’m thinking about selling the amps and/or cables to fund another hobby (classic motorcycles:)) and I’m interested in your thoughts about the 10Ts and CC5 (or CC3) in the above room and with the ATI 1505 and Marantz driving them. Is this room too small for the 10Ts? When paired with the above equipment will they sound awful or just not as good as they could with better components? Any insight is appreciated, thanks all.

Check if your 10T has been reassembled correctly, there is a rod and a connector between the removable head and the woofer cabinet and make sure that the speakers are working correctly specially the tweeter and medium. And that the head has not been cracked.

If you can keep the speakers 3FT from the rear wall and 2-3 feet fromt the sides you should not have a problem.

Local classified has an SW12 for sale with a broken amp. After doing some reading, it looks like the amp is pretty fancy - full of various inputs and such. The poster stated the amp could be repaired by Aerial Acoustics for ~$500.

From what I understand, this sub is pretty old. Not being able to demo a broken sub, does it make sense putting that amount of money this sub (repair + purchase)? Also, any reason why the original amp couldn't be replaced with a quality after market plate amp of similar power for about half the price?

Thanks.

^^ The SW-12 amp is quite elaborate, lots of components, one band of parametric EQ, remote control for damping and gain, with a digital readout of these settings.

Yes, the woofer can be driven from an external amp. Would not have to be a plate amp, and pretty unlikely you'd find one to fit in the same opening. With the amp removed, the acoustics are not altered because the amp is fully enclosed in its own chamber.

So the first thing to do (before purchase) would be to test the driver with any external amp just to make sure it is not defective, and if not, then see about finding a suitable amp with whatever features you desire. The original amp is built from standard components, and a good tech might be able to find something obvious and fix it for way less than $500.

If you are in Oregon, I can help with that.

Thanks

Thanks Class A. I dont have enough room to accommadate these speakers so I'm going to sell them and try something else. Thanks for the help!

Have any Aerial owners or forums members compared the 7T's to the Model 9's? I'd like to hear any thoughts on the comparison of two - there are plenty of positive reviews out there on the 7T's, but very little comment on the 9's (apart from one review thread on AVS) - and though the 9's are higher up the tree cost wise, a lot of comments seem to suggest that the performance of the 7T's could well match or exceed that of the Model 9's?

Thanks in advance for any comments . . .

The 7T's have a more coherent even sound from top to bottom. The 9's can be a bit bass heavy especially if you have a smallish room. The 7T's room wise are an easier fit and will take less power to run them. When Michael Kelly first demoed these speakers at the Rocky MT. Audio Fest he used a Peachtree integrated w/excellent results. Quite unusual because most Aerial models require some hefty power to get the best out of them.

Thanks Class A,

Regarding positioning of the 7T, the rear firing point isn't an issue then if placing close to rear wall?

I note that the 7T also uses a new tweeter and mid-range driver than the Model 9's, and LR5's etc - how does that change the sound produced versus the 9's?

You still need to give them some air about 2ft from the rear wall and about the same from the side walls. The 9 always seemed a bit bass heavy or my taste but if your heavy into HT and have a big room the 9 is an excellent choice. The 7T has a more even presentation and for my taste does music better. My room is on the small side and I use the Model 6's which are front ported and a good solution for me.

FWIW, I recently moved my 7B's out of our large (~6500 cu.ft.) room HT system and put them in my much smaller office for 2-channel only. Out of necessity, they are quite close (6") to rear and side walls and there are NO glaring issues with boundary reinforcement. I was really surprised.

The best part is that I've fallen in love with the Aerials all over again. What a beautiful, coherent presentation.

I think Class A is right on the money...for HT get the 9's. For music in a smaller room, the 7T's should be dynamite. I understand the new tweeter in the 'T' model is much more revealing than the 'B' model...a good thing.