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post #1 of 51
4/3/07 at 11:46am
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I have a Dell at home that I intend to use for video editing when I get either the Sony or the HV20. The computer is definately not new, but works well. I hate buying new computer but instead prefer to just upgrade certain pieces like the graphics card and memorey, unless it just doesnt make money sense. I am not looking for something cutting edge but instead something that will function well with high resolution video editing. What configuration (CPU Speed, Hard drive size, Graphics Card and Memorey) would you recommend?
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post #2 of 51
4/3/07 at 12:07pm
If you are planning on doing any HDV editing, you will need a fairly beefy system.
A Core 2 Duo 6400 or higher or an Athlon 64 X2 4600+ or higher CPU, at least 2gb of RAM, a 500gb SATA-II drive and a recent video card with at least 128MB memory (256 or higher preferable) should be adequate. A lesser system MIGHT choke on HDV editing. That's my $0.02...
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post #3 of 51
4/3/07 at 8:01pm
First look at Pinnacle studio 10, the software is pretty easy also look at Ulead Movie Factory 6.

Pinnacle is pretty good, if you have to burn a video do it at night before you go to bed and it will be ready in the morning, thats one option.

Some companies gives a trial basis for 30 day's to see if you like it, can't go wrong with that.

Also look at the Pc requirements from their site.

Hope this somewhat helps.
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post #4 of 51
4/3/07 at 8:11pm
Pinnacle studio plus 10 is *VERY* unstable on most systems and crashes frequently (Just read the user reviews on the web)...Ulead has a better reputation.
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post #5 of 51
4/3/07 at 10:57pm
I have used Ulead's Videostudio 9 and, while it is pretty intuitive and can do a nice editing job, I have found there to be problems in the rendering area. I have always been able to find the offending file but it is murderous to spend dozens (and dozens) of hours on a project and fight at the last rendering part to just be able to see one's vision realized.

I'm working with Sony vegas 6 (The cheaper suite at first) and hopefully it'll be better at the rendering part. If it works out I will get the full version of Vegas 7.

I have read too many bad reviews of Pinnacle to even try it.
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post #6 of 51
4/4/07 at 3:06am
I have quite a few editors ranging from cheap to expensive, and I find that although sony vegas7 is not the fastest editor on the block, it is by far the most solid and dependable.... well worth the money.
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post #7 of 51
4/6/07 at 5:53pm
If you want to get some idea of how well your machine will handle HD, go to the Microsoft website and download the Windows Media HD movie preview clips. If your hard drive, processing power, video card aren't up to the task, you'll see frame drops or an unstable pic. If the pic is stable and clean, then you may have a chance with what you have...although rendering times could be frustrating.


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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

I have a Dell at home that I intend to use for video editing when I get either the Sony or the HV20. The computer is definately not new, but works well. I hate buying new computer but instead prefer to just upgrade certain pieces like the graphics card and memorey, unless it just doesnt make money sense. I am not looking for something cutting edge but instead something that will function well with high resolution video editing. What configuration (CPU Speed, Hard drive size, Graphics Card and Memorey) would you recommend?
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post #8 of 51
7/17/07 at 1:17pm
I have the HDR-SR1. Transfer of files is fast so editing is quicker.

EDITING: on Pent. 4 ; 3 Ghz, running XP sp2, 2 Gig Ram, GeForce 6200

Pinnacle 11 is easy use, but my playback is useless. Cant really edit if I cant see the results.

Ulead's Studio 11 ,harder to work with, but playback is good.
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post #9 of 51
7/17/07 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by ranman256 View Post

I have the HDR-SR1. Transfer of files is fast so editing is quicker.

EDITING: on Pent. 4 ; 3 Ghz, running XP sp2, 2 Gig Ram, GeForce 6200

Pinnacle 11 is easy use, but my playback is useless. Cant really edit if I cant see the results.

Ulead's Studio 11 ,harder to work with, but playback is good.

Why is Ulead VS 11 harder to work with? Please state as many details as you want.

Thanks!
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post #10 of 51
7/17/07 at 3:02pm
I have a D920 cpu running at 4.4GHZ with 2 GB Ram and a couple of Raptors on a Raid. Sony Vegas 8 runs OK, but it's still not what I would call quick while editing HD. It's very stable with no glitches or dropouts though. Right now, I have a 6600GT video card. Before I do much more editing, I'll porbably get something faster.
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post #11 of 51
7/17/07 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by Drothgeb View Post

I have a D920 cpu running at 4.4GHZ with 2 GB Ram and a couple of Raptors on a Raid. Sony Vegas 8 runs OK, but it's still not what I would call quick while editing HD. It's very stable with no glitches or dropouts though. Right now, I have a 6600GT video card. Before I do much more editing, I'll porbably get something faster.

Hello -

Where is it you notice the slowups? Is it while laying in cuts and transitions? Is there a pause while the program readies itself?

I may not be expressing myself clearly - But I like to edit fast if I can. I don't really care as much about the rendering/DVD producing part of the work. That can done while I sleep. The dragging, clicking-on, cutting, transitioning, spec FXing part is where I want to jump immediately from one step to another. And I want to use software that is as user-friendly as possible.
I don't want to have to open menus unless absolutely necessary. I don't want any spinning cursers telling me to slow down.

I am working with Sony moviestudio 6. Rather, I am learning it and working with Ulead VS 9. I find the transitions to be mostly cheesey in VS but as straight cuts and crossfades are what I use the most. But I can see where the more global abilities of Vegas are better. I can't see where I will be able to fly fast with Vegas, however. I will do whatever is needed to use the best (fastest w/quality results) editor. I'm pretty good at multitasking yet I can't seem to gain much speed with Vegas. But then, I don't know all the Macros and keystrokes.
I'd rather drag, drop, right click, enter whatever menu and move on. It's sort of like when computers were new and we all learned a little bit of basic so that we could Do Things. Then GUIs got better and we could just jump in and start using our applications.

I need to find the software I'm going to do my next project with. I also have to get a new computer. Yours seems very fast. My last editing project was done on an AMD 4400+ Dual Core with 2 gigs of memory and a Nvidia 7600GT. I was doing SD with VS 9, and the acting editing was too slow.
I'm not going to get any software or new computer until the last minute. I'm hoping the Q6600's will come down in price. It does seem that Quad core is a real advance.
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post #12 of 51
7/18/07 at 5:12am
I have a Core 2 Duo E4300 with 2 GB RAM and an ATI X1650XT video card. I'm running XP and use Pinnacle 10.7, which has been very stable for me. I've had no problems with either standard def or high def video.
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post #13 of 51
7/18/07 at 5:59am
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Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post

I can't see where I will be able to fly fast with Vegas, however. I will do whatever is needed to use the best (fastest w/quality results) editor. I'm pretty good at multitasking yet I can't seem to gain much speed with Vegas. But then, I don't know all the Macros and keystrokes.
I'd rather drag, drop, right click, enter whatever menu and move on.

Don't wish to offend but I suggest that you may simply be experiencing "new user speed". I have quite a few NLE's and Vegas has be one of the fastest, slickest interfaces that there is..... and it's mostly drag and drop. I have the pro version but the consumer version works the same basic way. To create a dissolve, simply use the S key to cut, then drag one edge of the cut so that it overlaps the other. The amount of overlap is your duration. The entire process takes seconds... and it can be done on the fly. You don't have to stop the playback. You could be adding your transition on the right side of the timeline while the scrubber is moving and playing back the time line on the left side. Vegas is FULL of these convenient shortcuts... you can even run the same version of vegas twice at the same time... render one video while editing another (not sure if you can do this with the consumer version).

Out of the NLE's that I have (Avid Liquid7. Pinnacle studio 9, 10, and 11, Ulead Media Studio pro8, Adobe premiere Pro.... and a few others), the Vegas interface is the fastest. Where Vegas tends to be a bit slow is in rendering.... but that's no big deal... simply set up the render before you go to bed.

Pinnacle studio is not bad either... they have had a rough time with some bad releases in the past... but things have gotten MUCH better since version 10.7 Ulead Video studio 11 is probably comparable to Pinnacle 11 at this point in terms of bugs and such (not to say that they're unreliable). They're both reasonably stable, but do present a few minor bugs. I think Pinnacle tends to be the more versatile of the 2 at this point in terms of HDV editing, but Ulead offers more in terms of input/output options. At any rate, both are pretty comparable in terms of operating speed, and ease of use.... although on some of the more complicated effects/transitions in pinnacle do have to be pre rendered before you get a smooth playback... and that does add some extra time.
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post #14 of 51
7/18/07 at 7:57am
No offence taken; I knew this post was coming. (I set myself up.)
I really hope you are right and my novicity will wear off. But, most users seem to be saying that Vegas is not the fastest but the most reliable. You say the opposite about Vegas and Pinnacle than I read here and elsewhere.
I guess I am new, I've only been doing it for a couple of years. I've probably spent a couple of hundred hours in editing.
I do not think one ought to completely learn a new language to edit. (Good GUIs are what makes good programs.) You may disagree. That's okay. We may both be right for our editing needs.
And I agree that rendering speed is not a concern; I can do it in my sleep.

And I may not be bright enough for Vegas. I'll find the tool that'll work for me.

Thanks for commenting.

BTW: I use the S (split) key but there are too many moves to accomplish simple tasks in Vegas. I understand why. There are many more possiblities with Vegas and therefore more, uh, "Intersections", for want of a better word. I think Vegas is great but it is slower for me and my current needs. I do work with it to learn but when I need to do something fast I don't use it. And the tutorials are not well done. They do the obvious tasks I can do.

Another BTW: I use Windows XP. I read many horror stories about Vista. Is anyone using Vista with an NLE and liking it? I know there must be some. And I realize some people can get Pinnacle to work but the word in other forums is very negative about it. They wouldn't sell any if it never worked.
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post #15 of 51
7/18/07 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post

But, most users seem to be saying that Vegas is not the fastest but the most reliable. You say the opposite about Vegas and Pinnacle than I read here and elsewhere.

With Vegas... it is as fast as your machine is. It is purely a software driven program. In otherwords it will run on just about any machine you put it on. But then on the other hand, because it operates as close to real time as one of these programs can, if you put it on a slower, older machine then don't expect it to operate too smoothly. I have a quad core and Vegas (the pro version anyway) is a multi threaded program... so the more cores you have, the faster and more efficient it is. (Vegas will have a new version out at the end of the year... it will be the first 64bit NLE to hit the market.... GREAT for heavy HDV editing)


As for Pinnacle... as I said before, they had a run of bad releases so what people say about it WAS perfectly true. But it looks like Avid (the new owners), are getting a handle on the situation. I look at it this way... Avid is probably THE biggest name in professional video editing... they would not have purchased Pinnacle if they didn't see something good about it.

Interestingly enough, there is a thread on the Ulead forums about Pinnacle... Jerry Jones (apparently a old rep from Ulead or something to that effect) tested out Pinnacle. His thread starts off a little confused about pinnacle but as he works with it he begins to discover that the Pinnacle quality seems to be better then that of Ulead (these are his words)

http://phpbb.ulead.com.tw/EN/viewtopic.php?t=24649



But at the end of the day, you're the one sitting in front of the keyboard so it's you that as to feel comfortable. Most if not all of these companies have some sort of trial to download, so if I were you I would download every trial there is and go crazy playing with them.
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post #16 of 51
7/18/07 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by bigbarney View Post

With Vegas... it is as fast as your machine is. It is purely a software driven program. In otherwords it will run on just about any machine you put it on. But then on the other hand, because it operates as close to real time as one of these programs can, if you put it on a slower, older machine then don't expect it to operate too smoothly.

But at the end of the day, you're the one sitting in front of the keyboard so it's you that as to feel comfortable. Most if not all of these companies have some sort of trial to download, so if I were you I would download every trial there is and go crazy playing with them.

Thanks for the reply.

My machine right now is slow: 3800+ single core 2 gigs mem. My last editing job was done on a 4400+ dual core 2 gig mem. The difference between them is not that much. Which was a surprise to me.

I do think a quad core is a great idea. I'm saving my scheckles! I'll be doing another editing job in the Fall and that's when I'll buy the fastest computer (or build - probably build) I can afford.

I would like to download like crazy but I live where dialup is the fastest thing possible. (26400 - No DSL ) Satellite Internet has stopped taking new customers as they are overloaded now. And there is no cable out here in the deep boonies.

So - I work with my Vegas to learn it better and I imagine I'll go for Vegas 8 when my next big editing job comes up. And I'll get the Ulead VS 11 plus upgrade as it is only $59.


I wish there was a way I could sit with someone who is actually conversant with working with Vegas. I've gotten the book by the fellow with the American Indian name and it is good but I would like someone to actually attack the tutorial task by doing a workflow chart type of tutorial. (I'm a sucker for "charts and graphs - ) Everything I read seems theoretical and when I actually do the task and learn it I find that the "help" wasn't all that great.

But then we're all different and I may be technically challenged. (I don't actually think so; I think I'm pretty good )

I have to sum up by saying that the fewest motions to accomplish a task is the better way, to me. Especially when I tend to do A LOT of tweaking and finessing. I like to make images and sounds really flow together and the more I get into it the better I like it and the better others like it.

Thanks again for your help. I see you've posted a new link - I'll check it out.
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post #17 of 51
7/18/07 at 5:30pm
Hey BigBarney,

I made myself work with Sony for a while today. It still is not as quick as VS9 for me. I realize that Sony is closer to a professional program. I used the keyboard more freely and I can see that cutting a piece of sound and tucking it in place is easier than Ulead. However, I am still more aware of the act of technical actions than I am with Ulead. I know it needs to become second nature but I do think creativity is cleaner and better when as many obstacles to creating the idea are removed as possible.

So, I've got two projects going, one in each program. I will see what happens.

I spent about 160 hours creating 2 works from a 2 week Fall trip to Europe for several couples. It turned out very well I think. I was as much an observer of the results as were those I made the movies for. One movie was a 72 minute piece taken from 20 hours (SD MiniDV) and the other was a 29 minute montage made from Stills. It was interesting to discover the brutality necessary when cutting for quality. (Although I could probably have gotten the piece closer to an hour if I cut it today. )

It was a different experience. I'd done weddings and scores of Theatrical (Community Theater mostly) presentations but this felt like pure creativity. I was just learning Vegas when I started and it was just too sloooooooow. Ulead (which I know well - what is there to know? ) was very fast, except for when I needed to do some "quality" audio or still picture editing. I wish I could right click on a sound or pic and have a menu come up in Ulead that would take the file right into the (Good) repair shop. Vegas has it but for some reason (I forget the exact wording) I can't get into the program I want. (Any editor should be allowed)

So, I'm working with Vegas and I'm looking forward to when it becomes more automatic for me. I'm slow.
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post #18 of 51
7/18/07 at 7:52pm
Has any one tried Adobe Premiere Element, if so what do you think about it compared to Vegas, Ulead, Cyberling power Director is rated the highest on the $100 mark or Pinnacle 10 or 11? It seems that most editing software has something to offer that the other one does not have and vise versa that's the problem that I am having but used to Pinnacle.
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post #19 of 51
7/21/07 at 9:04pm
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Originally Posted by Don_S View Post

Pinnacle studio plus 10 is *VERY* unstable on most systems and crashes frequently (Just read the user reviews on the web)...Ulead has a better reputation.

I agree. It is a horrible program. It will crash on anything!
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post #20 of 51
7/21/07 at 9:12pm
I have three machines. For fast editing and cutting with transitions, I use Ulead Movie Studio 6. It has very little in the way of bells and whistles but I can have a complete HD-DVD of my HV-10 footage (on a SD-DVD) in less than thirty minutes. All of this is done with four off the shelf or downloaded software. I have the complete HDV file and don't have to re-render a thing. I even get Dolby Digital 5.1 audio out of the whole process.

Want to learn more?
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post #21 of 51
7/21/07 at 11:18pm
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Originally Posted by paintit77 View Post

I have three machines. For fast editing and cutting with transitions, I use Ulead Movie Studio 6. It has very little in the way of bells and whistles but I can have a complete HD-DVD of my HV-10 footage (on a SD-DVD) in less than thirty minutes. All of this is done with four off the shelf or downloaded software. I have the complete HDV file and don't have to re-render a thing. I even get Dolby Digital 5.1 audio out of the whole process.

Want to learn more?

Yes.

I have googled Ulead Movie Studio 6 and I come up with THIS.

Do you mean Video Studio? I know there are higher level programs Ulead does.

I've stated before what I work with. I'd be glad to know more about your setup and how it works.
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post #22 of 51
7/23/07 at 12:49am
Any suggestions on graphic cards?

Geforce 7? 8? Ati X1950? or HD2900?

Or Nvidia Quadro FX? much better?
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post #23 of 51
7/23/07 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post

Yes.

I have googled Ulead Movie Studio 6 and I come up with THIS.

Do you mean Video Studio? I know there are higher level programs Ulead does.

I've stated before what I work with. I'd be glad to know more about your setup and how it works.

Cyrano, I meant Movie Factory 6.
Here is a list of programs you need.
CapDVHS
VideoRedo
Womble MPEG Video Wizard DVD
Ulead Movie Factory 6
Nero 7

Also, the max size of your files should 4 gig or less. This equates to 20 minutes of HDV footage per disk. You can use DVD-9 disks to get 40 minutes as well.

Cyrano. I use CapDVHS to get the video off of my HV-10 onto the computer. You can download here for free. http://www.videohelp.com/tools/CapDVHS

I then use VideoRedo to clean up the HDV video, make basic cuts of the program and create a compliant MPEG2 Program Stream. Hit save as, select MPEG2 Program Steam and it will convert the file in minutes.
You can buy it here: http://www.videoredo.com

I then take that file and load it into MPEG Video Wizard DVD.
You can get it here: http://www.womble.com/download/

Add the file to the timeline. Hit the export button. Select MPEG2 in the video tab and where you want to save the file. Click the Audio tab. Hit the AC-3 button then select AC-3 5.1 beneath it. Click the Monitor tab and hit start. It saves the file on your hard drive as a compliant MPEG2 Program Stream movie with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio.

Open Ulead Movie Factory 6. You can buy it anywhere or I think online.
Click the New Video Project. Select HD-DVD as the type of movie you are making. Change the type on the left bottom of the screen to HD-DVD Standard 15g. Open your file that was created using Womble's MPEG Video Wizard DVD. Click next. Here you can add menus, chapters or click on the edit room to add transitions etc.

I like to add chapter intervals at this stage and nothing else. I don't like the menus in MF6. Click the film with a Gear on it button at the bottom. Make sure you select "do not convert compliant MPEG files" button is selected. Click the change MPEG settings, then hit customize. Click the Compression tab at the top. Select Dolby Digital and the Audio type to the bottom position. Click next two times. When you get to the burn screen, select "Create HD-DVD folders" and not the create disk button. You can at this point burn it to disk but if you have a Toshiba HD-A2 player (2nd gen player) you have to use Nero to burn the disk. Click the box and select a folder to burn the file on your HDD.

Open Nero 7. Select Burning Rom. Select DVD at the top, then DVD-ROM (UDF) as the type. Click the Multisession Tab. Select no Multisession. Select the UDF tab. Under options, select Enable XBOX Compatabilty. You may or may not see an error message if you do, just ignor. Click the New Button. Find the HD-DVD_TS on you computer that you created using MF6. Drag it from the right of your screen to the disk on the upper left hand corner of the screen. Once you have done this, click Recorder button, then "Choose Recorder". On the bottom left had side, click the options tab. make sure that you have on the bottom left hand side the term "Book type settings:"Click the button underneath and make sure it says Physical disk type selected. Hit Okay! The reason you do this is because the newer Toshiba HD-DVD players choke on the ROM selected Book types. The older 1st gen HD-DVD players didn't have an issue. If you don't have this selected, than your video will be choppy and drive you insane.

The Burn button will be available at the top of the screen. It has a match on top of the disk looking button.
Click it and burn your disk. When its done, put it in your player and you are watching HDV with DD5.1 in less than 45 minutes.

Best of luck!
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post #24 of 51
7/23/07 at 1:13pm
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Originally Posted by littlelio View Post

Any suggestions on graphic cards?

Geforce 7? 8? Ati X1950? or HD2900?

Or Nvidia Quadro FX? much better?


all of the above should work fine.
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post #25 of 51
7/24/07 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by paintit77 View Post

Cyrano, I meant Movie Factory 6.
Here is a list of programs you need.
CapDVHS
VideoRedo
Womble MPEG Video Wizard DVD
Ulead Movie Factory 6
Nero 7

Also, the max size of your files should 4 gig or less. This equates to 20 minutes of HDV footage per disk. You can use DVD-9 disks to get 40 minutes as well.

Cyrano. I use CapDVHS to get the video off of my HV-10 onto the computer. You can download here for free. http://www.videohelp.com/tools/CapDVHS

I then use VideoRedo to clean up the HDV video, make basic cuts of the program and create a compliant MPEG2 Program Stream. Hit save as, select MPEG2 Program Steam and it will convert the file in minutes.
You can buy it here: http://www.videoredo.com

I then take that file and load it into MPEG Video Wizard DVD.
You can get it here: http://www.womble.com/download/

Add the file to the timeline. Hit the export button. Select MPEG2 in the video tab and where you want to save the file. Click the Audio tab. Hit the AC-3 button then select AC-3 5.1 beneath it. Click the Monitor tab and hit start. It saves the file on your hard drive as a compliant MPEG2 Program Stream movie with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio.

Open Ulead Movie Factory 6. You can buy it anywhere or I think online.
Click the New Video Project. Select HD-DVD as the type of movie you are making. Change the type on the left bottom of the screen to HD-DVD Standard 15g. Open your file that was created using Womble's MPEG Video Wizard DVD. Click next. Here you can add menus, chapters or click on the edit room to add transitions etc.

I like to add chapter intervals at this stage and nothing else. I don't like the menus in MF6. Click the film with a Gear on it button at the bottom. Make sure you select "do not convert compliant MPEG files" button is selected. Click the change MPEG settings, then hit customize. Click the Compression tab at the top. Select Dolby Digital and the Audio type to the bottom position. Click next two times. When you get to the burn screen, select "Create HD-DVD folders" and not the create disk button. You can at this point burn it to disk but if you have a Toshiba HD-A2 player (2nd gen player) you have to use Nero to burn the disk. Click the box and select a folder to burn the file on your HDD.

Open Nero 7. Select Burning Rom. Select DVD at the top, then DVD-ROM (UDF) as the type. Click the Multisession Tab. Select no Multisession. Select the UDF tab. Under options, select Enable XBOX Compatabilty. You may or may not see an error message if you do, just ignor. Click the New Button. Find the HD-DVD_TS on you computer that you created using MF6. Drag it from the right of your screen to the disk on the upper left hand corner of the screen. Once you have done this, click Recorder button, then "Choose Recorder". On the bottom left had side, click the options tab. make sure that you have on the bottom left hand side the term "Book type settings:"Click the button underneath and make sure it says Physical disk type selected. Hit Okay! The reason you do this is because the newer Toshiba HD-DVD players choke on the ROM selected Book types. The older 1st gen HD-DVD players didn't have an issue. If you don't have this selected, than your video will be choppy and drive you insane.

The Burn button will be available at the top of the screen. It has a match on top of the disk looking button.
Click it and burn your disk. When its done, put it in your player and you are watching HDV with DD5.1 in less than 45 minutes.

Best of luck!

Thanks Paintit77!

I am still working with SD material. I hope to join the HD club soon.

I do hundreds of edits per video (and other sound and pic editing chores) I would like to find a program that "does it all". The work I do within the video itself is fairly intensive.
I am still trying with Vegas (moviestudio 6) and I find that the necessary moves to accomplish a task are ridiculously keyboard intrusive. If I were only cutting large blocks of material down to size I would be happy with it but I tend to make many (many) small cuts (and adjusts to the cuts) and Vegas is just too slow.
And then I get some result of an editing move that gives me a convoluted result I do not want. I feel as though it is a battle and I am working to tame Vegas rather than taming the Video I'm working on.

Ulead's VS 9 allows me to just work. And I do know the options available with Vegas are better and more in line with what I want (velocities and envelope-work), but it is not as user-friendly and ergonomic. (Ergonomic, that is the key, I think)

So it may be that my intelligence level is not capable of flying as fast with Vegas as I want. I wonder how many years I have to work with it to qualify as someone who thinks it is not good for my purposes.

There is so much to editing that I am not mentioning here: tweaking sound - aligning sound with disparate video selections and having them all fit as though one - videooverlaying layers that appear to be one - and more that I cannot say because it is part of the process and hard to put into words.


I hope this forum can get to the point where those of us who are into the technicalities of editing can share thoughts and solutions rather than opinions and judgements.
For instance, I cut a nice little piece in Vegas and when I got done and trimmed off the end there was a problem. It may have resulted from a sync slip I did but it slowed me down and I don't think such needs to be. I won't get into specifics. (It'd be nice if we could conference this stuff. I'm on dialup so I probably couldn't do it )

I think we're in at the real beginning of editing and HD editing to be more specific. I did theater lighting with computers in the 80's and 90's but I'll bet the computer boards they're using today are better and more user-friendly.

Ergonomics - what it's all about.
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post #26 of 51
7/24/07 at 1:59pm
As zapper said has anyone tried Adobe Elements 3.0?
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post #27 of 51
7/24/07 at 3:42pm
[quote=Oswald Pascual]As zapper said has anyone tried Adobe Elements 3.0?[/QUOT

It appears that so far no one has or chimed in yet.
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post #28 of 51
7/25/07 at 6:10pm
wow - alot of good information - i am looking at the best program to do basic editing - only issue is i have a new camcorder that uses AVCHD format and my understanding is alot of these programs are just adding that functionality now so i might wait before i buy anything and just use the Sony supplied software that came with my unit.

On processor speed - most of these programs do not take advantage of multiple cores so some of the newer dual core and quad core machines will actually run slower when just running one editing task.

Video card - i am not an expert but my understanding is that video editing and playback does not really require a high end video card - correct me if i am incorrect.
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post #29 of 51
7/25/07 at 6:45pm
What are the most common formats that are recorded with these Hi-Def Cancorders?
My Understanding is the one with tapes use HDV which is supported by most current Video Editing software and camcorders, and then there is AVCHD which is newer, and apparently not compatible with each other (Sony vs Panasonic), and very few video editing software support it yet. Is there any other format used in the current crop of Hi-Def camcorders?

It also appears that part of the decision on which camera to get depends on which video editing software one wants to use. I thinks the consensus is Ulead, Vegas, and Pinnacle, are all pretty good but non seem to really stand out loud as the best. Another way seems to be using a combination of several programs to accomplish a task which is some incredible work around, but things should not be that hard, Really!!!
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post #30 of 51
7/25/07 at 6:53pm
A video card will greatly affect playback, but does not make much of a difference in editing. A video card can have native support for different video codecs taking the load off the CPU and giving much better performance when multitasking.
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