PS3 sales down 80 per cent in week two - Page 3

Think about it the first two weeks of sales of the wii and the xbox sold out so on the second week their wasnt any system to by thus their was a 99% drop in sales.

combine the first week of sales of the wii and 360 together and they still dont equal the ps3 1st week sales

The differents is that the ps3 has plenty of stock and meet all of the current demand in 1 week. With hardware to spare. So its really how you look at the numbers

Exactly.
I personally think considering it had to drop 67% even if it sold out, its a good start.

I see, so everyone that doesn't own a PS3 must drive a Kia. Wonderful logic there...

Don't assume that because many people don't see how a $600 console that really only has a handful or less of games worth playing is a bargain. Most folks know the value of a dollar and the fact is, the PS3 doesn't really deliver at this time, as a game console. If you bought a PS3 for a Blu-Ray player, then it may hold more value to you, but it's still hard to swallow for most people when HD DVD players can be had for as low as $300-400 now.

And before you speak, I'm a PS3 owner, but that doesn't stop me from voicing my opinion on the fact that it's overpriced and killing Sony because of it.

You are too quick to make assumptions and missed the point of the analogy. I never made a tie between PS3 ownership and owning a nice car, but rather stated that some people put a priority on one thing, while other people put it on others. Car enthusiasts would spend more money than the average person on a high performing car. Likewise with video game enthusiasts buying an expensive console. The logic is not bad just because you don't take time to reason through it and understand it.

You also seem rather defensive about needing to state you're a PS3 owner. Why would that change how valid your opinion is? I have enjoyed more games on my PS3 than I ever did on my PS2 6 months after buying it. The PS2 games sucked the first 6 months it was out. XBOX was the same way. I have found with the PS3 there are more good games out than I have time to play, so I'm happy with it. With the PS2, it sat there because I ran out of good things to play.

I don't see what choice Sony had. Including a DVD drive in the PS3 would have ensured it died a similar death to the Dreamcast. It would have been out of date so quickly, and no one would have been willing to upgrade so soon. I'm curious to see what happens with the next gen XBOX. I fear MS may be in a world of hurt when they have to step up to a higher density media drive. They will hope to fair was well as the PS3 has.

Nope, I'm the gamer in my house. Halo isn't the type of game I'm a fan of, so I don't feel I'm missing anything.

You can have a Silver account in Xbox live, which is free, and still have access to all the movie downloads. This is how I have my account setup. I have a Silver one for my movie and video downloads and a gold account for games.

Several good friends have had 360s since launch and over half of them have had some soldering issue. I don't know the details of the problem since it's a sore subject with them, but one of them is on his 4th unit.

Both of mine are from 2005.

Sure but you can't play online games with Silver. On PS3, the online games and Playstation Home are free.

Dvd9 is perfectly fine for gaming this generation. Worse case scenario will be multiple discs. If a game like Oblivion can fit on one Dvd9 then we will be fine. The only games that need more storage are Rpg's, heavy on Cgi cutscenes.

BD and HD-Dvd were not needed this gen.. That is why the 360 has the add-on. However it will be perfect for next-gen. Playstation3 will be in third this gen but may "win" the format war. I think Sony would have been better off with an add-on this gen, I would have gotten a ps3 on launch.

funny you mentioned Oblivion, isn't there extra material on the PS3 version?

Yes, and the graphics are more detailed than the 360 version.

I personally, have always been annoyed by multi-disc games. That was part of the reason games moved to DVD. That was almost 10 years ago. It's time to step up again. This gen is going to need the extra space as games get more detailed. Remember when all of the first PS2 releases were on CD? Funny how you won't find any now that fit on a CD. By the end of you year, I suspect MS will be looking for a way to get a higher capacity drive in the XBOX. Although with the 360 being more mature, they might not need it. But, when they step up to their next generation, it will be needed. As I said, for the PS3 to last the next 10 years as Sony wants it to, it needs more than DVD9. (I think it's good for at least 5-7 years with its current capability.)

? WHAT

I think he was pretty clear in his message and I agree with his logic.

If something doesn't make sense, just ask, so it can be clarified. Stupid looks (or posts) will not help with making you any smarter. Someone obviously got it.

That better and more specific? We are going on 2 years right now and that same comment has been said before the 360 was even released. Care to provide or show when this is eventally going to happen because we still have more games announced as exclusive and games going multi from being exclusive from the PS3. So please provide that info so we are all on the same page. Thanks

How bigger do u want games to be? You say more detailed but that is something developers learn after working on the system. It comes with time with every generation. Compare the first Splinter Cell to Chaos Theory,it's almost night and day. No mulitple discs there. It will be the same case this generation. Multiple discs will only be required for Rpg's or any games heavy on Cgi cutscenes. Another great example is Doa4,look how detailed that game is and it also has Cgi cutscenes,yet still fits on one DVD9. BD and Hd-dvd are not needed this generation,nice to have but not needed.

there are plenty of devs, including EPIC (erghm, yes them, Gears creators) who have said that they had issues fitting things on DVD.

This generation just started and it will go on for another 5-6 years at least...

Yet they are planning a sequel for GOW2 on DVD9. Go figure. they have said alot of things that can be qouted along with everyone else.

Of course they are, its not like they have blu-ray or HD-DVD to work with (Gears is a pretty short game, its easy to believe it wouldn't take up much space). Developers work within the limitations of a console. Hence why DOA4 had content removed to fit on DVD, hence why The Darkness has more content on the PS3 than the 360 version according to the developer Starbreeze. They do what they can with the hardware provided.

Again what advantage have we seen from BR for GAMERS not developers gamers for us to care what tools and so forth they are taking advantage of. We didn't see it with Resistance. The only difference I here is Resistance is longer then GOW and GOW looks better then resistance. What is really new there. That is honestly a matter of opinion whether you have more then a few who agree that GOW is short. Sure the single player but yet it is one of the most played games on Live today. Not sure why this is really any different then somthing like Halo 2 which was the previous longest played live game around too. Their is a very small % that considers Resistance to be a short game compared to(insert any related game you think it is here)

If a 360 programmer gets problems because of insufficient disc space, he can simply add a second disc. But what does a PS3 programmer do to workaround the slow data transfer rate of the 2x BD drive (which is half as fast as the 360's DVD drive)? Currently, the user has to manually copy a large amount of data onto the HDD (4GB for Genji). The finite amount of disk space in mind, especially on the lower-priced 20GB version, this can't be a solution for the future. Furthermore it's anything but comfortable.

One BD + manually copying 4GB or more of data onto HDD is more expensive in production and more uncomfortable for the user than two DVDs which have to swapped onced in 10 to 20 hours of gameplay. I don't see where Sony has planned for the future here.

Maybe you didn't see it with Resistance but I certainly did. I for one appreciate when levels are not cut and pasted over and over and over again like Halo:CE for example. I certainly heard the difference as well

Hey Tetris is played more than both so what does that tell you

If using one BD disc + using harddrive space was more expensive for production then they would simply use another disc. I don't know how familiar you are with disc production and game design, but adding another disc is a pretty annoying thing for developers to have to deal with, and it ends up costing them more money.

Most games use harddrive space to help quicken load times, newer games, like Ninja Gaiden Sigma, are taking advantage of it for those exact reasons, giving the user a choice of whether to install a lot to reduce load times to virtually nothing or installing little and dealing with the normal wait time. This same trick has been done with great success on the PC for years. To think of it as a downside is silly, since the PS3 presents all the same options to developers and gamers as the 360, plus many more.

Also, the Playstation 3 has more games coming out for it this year than any of the other next gen systems. Just thought that was an interesting and little known fact.

What games? Link of confirmed games not just speculative.
And on that note of those games which one will even come close to competing with Forza,Mass Effect,Too Human,GTAIV,Bioshock,Halo3 and Pgr4,which are all CONFIRMED for this year.

Ps3 may win the format war,keyword MAY but they are leagues behind 360 in the gaming market.

Of course the PS3 is behind in the market. It's still new. It's encouraging to see more out this early for the PS3 than the PS2 had at this point from it's launch, or the 360. (The PS2 seems to have come out okay).

Also, making a big deal out of CONFIRMED is plain silly. Of course games for the PS3 will take longer to confirm. There are still new things in the development process that have to be figured out. Do you have any idea of what it takes to produce a new product versus one you've been making for over a year? I'm guessing you're not an engineer.

The same fluff from a Sony fan. When the end of the year comes around lets see if you will be saying the same. Confirmed means alot when you are trying to make your dent in the next-gen market. Because outside of BD there are very minimal reasons to even look at the ps3 when you have the 360 and Wii out. They need confirmed so gamers will not just buy the ps3 on name alone. If not what other reasons are there to even own the system. They need confirmed titles because it seems that they are bleeding games to the multiplatform market on a weekly basis.

Face it man the time for PS3 to shine is very limited if not already passed. If anything Ps3 needs to announce quite a few CONFIRMED AAA titles that are on the horizon and at the moment the only ones are Heavenly Sword,Lair,Ratchet and Clank,Warhawk and Killzone. And all those gems have to go against the juggernaut that is Halo 3.

But Brian you are talking about a PC game comparision but if thats the case then help me explain the difference with Crysis DVD and how it looks compared to 20Gig Blu-Ray Resistance?

OMG, is there a more hype game than Halo 3. I played Halo 1 on the xbox and thought it was rather boring, as CS Source and Half-Life blew it away at that time. While I agree it is going to be highly anticipated, I feel it won't live up to the hype and the people who are interested in Halo 3 already brought the Xbox360. I think the games coming out this year for the pS3 will be comparable to the ones for the xbox. Sony doesn't need a Halo 3 killer, it just needs a solid lineup and along with bluray capabilities and a price drop, I think it will do fine this year.