Philips DVDR3575H/37 160G HDD DVD Recorder w/ ATSC tuner - Page 75  

Yes, except for encrypted ("scrambled") cable channels.

There are only two other machines for sale in the US
that have both a HDD and a digital (ATSC) tuner,
with the Philips being the best.

I just received my Pioneer 950HD plasma (magnificent piece of Engineering) and was wondering how does the Phillips DVD recorder fair as a player? We chucked the VCR and my wife will use it to record her soap operas. Must I purchase a separate DVD player (not interested in BR or HD right now) to watch movies? I tried a non-progressive-scan DVD player and it looked ok, but was wondering will the up-scaling really add much picture quality and will the Philips unit suffice. I will probably get a HD player of some type in the future, when things settle down a bit.....thanks

Thanks for the info. Chuck44.

The 3575 is a good progressive player. It plays commercial DVDs with excellent quality via Component or HDMI. Altho it's HDMI will upconvert to 1080p it might not make any diff. if your fixed-pixel TV has a great scaler (prob. does). It also has some interesting features, like 0.8x and 1.3x playback with normal sound, several slo-mo speeds, skip and replay that works on commercial DVDs, a utility to check the manufacturer's ID (MID) of blank DVDs, etc.

The 3575 would be an excellent choice as your interim player/recorder until you go full HD with BR or HD-DVD.

Wmart no longer has the 3575 listed available online and few stores have it. Not good.

Wal-Mart now shows "NOT SOLD ONLINE". Only one of my local stores shows it in stock.

Circuit City still has it in stock for $289.99.

Wabjxo.....thanks a million...what I did not say was I ordered one from CC and is sitting on my porch right now (oh no!!!)...thanks again

Glad you were able to get one!

When you start setting up, I hope you can use the 3575's active passthru on its coax in/out loop in your system.

Let us know what the "Pack Date" is on the short end of the box, and whether you have any trouble maintaining digital channels?

P.S. You might not have your 3575 long if your wife sees you recording all kinds of shows and not having to worry about tape management (FF/REW, change tapes, etc.)!

Sorry wabjxo, I'm not sure if I do have EZ Fill. I'll check tonight. I have a JVC HD-P61R1U. I was playing with the aspect button on the TV remote and it has less choices with HDMI than with other inputs. Also, when I switch to my digital OTA signal, it has the same few choices. I'll look for the EZ Fill function tonight.

I still need to try component again. This TV does well with upscaling good signals, so that may be my best option.

Yea, I found one site with specs but it might have been the next gen. (2U)?

Anyway, the reason I'm keying in on your TV is cuz there isn't anything left that might not be set right on the 3575, and other people with HDMI TVs seem to have no problem finding the correct aspect, etc.

The only other thing in the 3575 setup is changing the HDMI format to YCbCr, but I don't think that affects aspect.

Hate for you to have to go to Component. It would really be nice to find a solution for you so we know what's up!?

Can you describe your setup and connections to see if we can spot anything there?

wabjxo, first question..Do you work for Philips? I not sure why you continually post who sells this recorder and the stock status???

Anyway, Mine has a tuner problem. I came home last night, turned it on and was surprised that I had a bunch of digital stations available. I was able to scroll thorough a bumch of them...But then I hit a station, any station, doesn't seem to matter which one, and instead of a picture I get the dreaded "blue screen"...That's all she wrote, because after that all I get is blue screens...I can go directly to a station I was watching...and it too will be blue...

I'm going to call and see if I can return the unit for a replacement..If not I'll get a refund...

Sorry for getting your name wrong, wabjxo. Regarding the build date, as I mentioned in a previous post - alluding to the Circuit City order on 8/21 and the fact that it had just been restocked - the unit was an April build.

I just want to say that I've somewhat had the same problem, but I kinda found a solution.

I've was scrolling thru some digital stations and I happened to scroll to some stations that were "scrambled programs". I then scrolled thru some stations that should be shown, yet I got the dreaded "blue screen". So what I did was pressed the DTV/TV button to change to the analog stations, wait until the analog stations were shown, then press the DTV/TV button to the station that are supposed to be shown and all was back to normal (The "blue screen" seems to happen on occasion, I don't know why this happens).

I'll make a deal with you, NoPlasmaYet, click on my name, click on View Public Profile, then click the link top right that reads "Add wabjxo to Your Ignore List."

Then, I'll keep posting whatever I want and you won't have to be bothered by ANY of my posts!

Deal?

My local Wal-mart is currently in the process of being completely revamped with all new fixtures, signage etc. They have a place for the Phillips unit on the shelf with price tag ($318) but no units. No one there has ever seen one.

Stopped at another store as I was passing by today. It's also a fairly new store, only open a couple of months. The have a unit on the shelf for display, but none in the box. Price is $289. Unbelievably helpful employee, and knowledgeable, not to mention kinda cute, scanned the bar code and said they had 3 on order. Not sure what that means, but her co-working said it meant they would be in less than a week. I'd sure like to pick one up at the store rather than ordering one online.

Some people don't appreciate the time and effort it takes for some fans of HDD DVD recorders to keep this site going in what is a real negative environment for HDD DVD recorders in the USA. The Philips 3575 I have has a high quality ATSC tuner and it does a really fine job playing back video recorded on its hard drive.

That being said, the Philips does not hold a candle to the Panasonic gray market EH-67 250 GB HDD & DVD recorder I now also have. The remote control that comes with the EH-67 is the best designed remote I have ever had, Panasonic engineers even put a tactile response into some of remote keys. This remote blows away the remote on my old E-80 Panasonic recorder and on the Philips 3575. Once you can record an entire DVD-R from a play list made from video stored on your unit's hard drive in under 9 minutes at high speed dubbing, you can't go back. If only this Panasonic had closed captioning.

Should Panasonic reenter the US market with units like the EH-67, things will start to really hop again here at AVS DVD Recorder forum, with a lot less negativity.

If anyone's still looking for the Philips, and you've got a Fry's around, you might wanna check there. The one in my area had a pile of them priced at $329.99 a couple of weeks ago.

(And no, I didn't look at the build dates.)

Now, what a minute - it's been pretty established that the Philips is much better than the Polaroid, but the Magnavox is barely out yet, and only 1 or 2 people here even have it. And they haven't even had it long enough to form much of an opinion.

It's supposed to basically be the Philips with a different face, smaller hard drive and less connections - so it's very likely to be at least as good, and could possibly turn out to be even better, as far as the dropped channels problem. Even if it isn't, it's really too new to know yet.

Nice comments but the price is almost double the Phillips and has a PAL tuner so for most of us it is a doorstop.

As far as the remote goes, I have a Harmony 880 so I really have no problem with any remote because I do not use them.

The whole issue of digital HD tuner hard drive recorders in the US has been beat to death here on the forum, so I would not hold my breath waiting for Panny or much anyone in the high end recorder business to help us out of the mess. Plus, it really gets down to the quality of the recording and playback which I found to be better on my old Polo 2000g than my Panny ES-20.

Almost all of the issues with the tuner on the Phillips deal with those of us who are getting "free" HD channels from our analog service provider. There are near zero problems with OTA, dish or paid cable digital service. Most of the problems with the tuner have to deal with "redirected" channels which are on one spot in the spectrum but redirected to another by the Phillips software. So 76.2 becomes 13.1 to correspond with the actual OTA channel 13 and 76.2 disappears. Those seem to be the ones that go to blue screen even if tuned directly while the others can be tuned directly. The other problem was a complete loss of channels with tuning up or down but not with tuning directly if not a redirected channel.

Mine is now fixed so I have few complaints.

It is interesting that my Phillips actually gets more digital channels than my Visio (2 more). The whole digital tuner world seems to be a bit in a non-standard world since a friend on the same Cable provider gets one HD channel I do not ( a re-directed one) and gets others duplicated on different numbers.

DirectCanada has them now for Cdn $279. I guess that's the effect of the dropping US dollar.

I bought one unit for myself last June or so used strictly OTA (and am extremely pleased with it), then just recently my mom got one for use with Comcast digital cable (she got the triple play package with phone and Internet). She got it because her VCR wouldn't record from the digital cable unless you used the tuner on the Comcast settop box which means that you had to tune to the channel and leave it there to record.

The 3575H picks up tons of digital channels. We sat there with pen and paper writing them all down. With many of them it's pretty obvious what they are (for example logos in corner of the screen) but with lots of others we didn't have a clue. The channel list on the Comcast website gives the channels as received by their box but the 3575H has them mapped completely differently, I guess using the QAM tuner. Does anyone know where to get a mapping of what channels are mapped to what QAM channel, e.g. what is 15.2 or 15.3 etc? Forgive me if this has been answered before - I've read many of the posts here but not all 2000 of them.

I get 6 digital channels in my analog cable service and have looked high and low for a "map" of some sorts and can't find anything.

Then, I read this explanation of QAM channel mapping by Budget_HT and decided not to look anymore. Luckily, I can remember 6 channels but for those on digital cable who get many channels, looks as if you night have to just write them down and hope they don't change channels too often?

O.K., the analog cable goes into the 3575 coax in, then out from the 3575 coax to TV coax in. I have an HDMI cable from the 3575 to the TV HDMI1 in.

The 3575's output is set to YCbCr--maybe I should change this back? I have S-Video out from the TV to the S-Video in on the 3575. I was unable to get a signal through that (is it E1?)--that's another problem I haven't resolved. Also, R/L RCA audio from TV out to 3575 in--next to the S-Video in.

My TV is usually set to Standard aspect ratio because I don't like the stretching of the SD signal, so I get black bars on the left and right most of the time.

I discovered that same thing last night. Since our machines are behaving in a like fashion...Maybe it's a firmware issue? I'm just wondering if getting a replacement would solve the problem or not?

That's right.


As far as I can tell it doesn't make much difference, except that you can choose the black level in RGB mode. Most HDTVs support both RGB and YCbCr modes on HDMI, and it's the same source data being sent either way. I leave it on YCbCr because the black level is fine for me, and the original data from DVDs is YCbCr format, so I figure maybe it saves one conversion step or allows 12-bit resolution. But honestly I see no apparent difference.


I guess you could do that, if in fact the S-Video jack on your TV is an output and not an input. But it would mean that you have to have your TV on to record from it. What's the purpose if you're recording directly from cable?


Unless you record a 16:9 widescreen program in anamorphic (horizontally squeezed) mode. Then you want to expand it back to full screen on playback.

wabjxo,

No offense was intended. I do appreaciate your help with programming the digital stations.

That said, I didn't think pricing quotes were allowed on these forums...could be wrong on that, won't be the first time, nor the last...

A good idea to try the "RGB" option in the HDMI menu...some people find one or the other a little better for PQ.

On my TV, I have a "Monitor Out" set of RCA connections but it won't work trying to use it as a watch/record source. It has a note in the manual that says "The monitor out does not operate in DVD or DTV mode." Maybe yours is the same?

Someone just recently posted on trying to use a monitor out connection but not sure which thread or when. I think that post confirmed that it won't work as a DVDR source? Anyone???

Neither is talk of defeating copyright protection, but it's not only allowed but "accepted" by many in this forum, and "encouraged" by others. And copyright violation is not just a forum rule but goes beyond into U.S. Law.

WAIT A MINUTE!

I searched the Forum Rules for pric, pricing, price, purchase, etc. and there is no forum-wide rule about posting prices or places to purchase items, except by manufacturers, dealers, sellers etc. as noted here:

"Special Note to dealers, re-sellers, or any person or company that deals in equipment or products for sale. You are not allowed to post items for sale on the forums. This also holds true for manufactures not being able to promote their products inside the AVS Forum sites. AV Science is the only dealer/re-seller allowed to post items for sale inside the forum or promote manufacture items. If you need promotion services, this forum offers banner advertising. This is again also holds true for individuals looking to sell used gear or "special deals" that may have. This is further carried into the forum signatures and the private message feature. On the same note...REFERRAL CODES are not allowed to be referenced for they are a sales tool."

Some forums or sticky threads may note that pricing and purchase source should not be included in posts, but this DVD recorder forum doesn't AFAIK.

Just picked up my 3575 from WalMart last nite. (I ordered it last week from Walmart.com and hadn it shipped to store.)

This unit wiull be replacing a Pio 531 that lost EPG and Timer Record Options (can only do one-button OTR recording now).

I do my recording from one room with an older Emerson DVD recorder(Funai built), a Philips VHS recorder (which I had planned to replace with this unit), and now the Philips 3575. These are hooked to a 30" Standard TV that only has one set of component inputs, along with the typical COAX ant input. My EMERSON recorder was using the component in on the TV, the VCR using the ant in on the TV.

To set the Philips up, I disconnected the Emerson and set up the Philps, dd the channel scans and set up the sytem. Did good job finding and setting up the digital channels.

After setting it up, I disconnected it from the component and reconnected the Emerson, and connected the Philips with the ant. But in that config, I wasnt able to set up any timer timer recordings. I saw in manual I dould get an RF converter to put in the loop. But it occrred to me I already had one, of course it was a bit larger than most, and had VHS recording ability as well. So I hooked up the Philips DVD recorder, to AV Rear on my VHS recorder, ran the ant out from the VHS recorder to ant in on TV. I leave the VHS set to AV rear, and tv on chan 3. I can use the Philips DVD recorder and the Emerson DVD Recorder (and even the VHS recorder if needed) just fine now.

Going to experiment with some of the Philips settings now. I always dub my recording to DVD (2x -RW's), and watch on a widescreen TV in upstairs room using an OPPO DVD player. I set the Philips initially on widescreen, but the result seemed to be squished side to side. I'll try other setting as well and see what works.

So far last nite, the DTV tuner worked fine.


Rick


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