Philips DVDR3575H/37 160G HDD DVD Recorder w/ ATSC tuner - Page 131  

I apologize for not pointing out that I had noticed that the Walmart site was the source of the ATSV tuner claim. I did not mean to imply that WAJO was the source of the ATSV acronym.

I do think that the tuner claim is a minor issue. I believe they should be pointing out that the tuner is only SD. Most regular readers of this group would know that, but we have seen posts from people who expected the DVDR3575/6 tuner to provide HD output because it has an HDMI connector.

I will say that I much prefer the aesthetics of the new Maggie over the Philips.

I wonder if it's any different firmware or tuner-wise from the old Maggie or the Philips?

And if they improved that atrocious remote control from the last model?

Looking at that HDMI port, I wonder if it's even active? It just looks like a black hole. If it's active, why isn't it mentioned in the specs, along with the other inputs?

Would you be surprised if they turned out to be the same unit. Perhaps Magnavox charges Funai less to use their name than Philips does, hence the origin of the price difference.

You guys are killing me.

My 76 is working fine, the 75 should be coming back from being repaired or replaced any day now, and now you're telling me there's another.

This isn't fair...

Can't......buy.....third....unit....

Must...re...sist...

Oh, this is just plain dirty fighting!

The tuner isn't "only SD".

It receives the digital broadcast, whether that broadcast is HD or SD. It's what it does with the signal after receiving it, namely "downrezzing" it, that causes the picture to be only SD.

The Magnavox 80GB model hasn't exactly received rave reviews and as such, has been largely ignored on this forum in favor of promoting the Philips. Until proven otherwise, this new model may be nothing more than the 80GB unit with a bigger HDD.

Good point.

Philips does, in fact, describe their units as having an SD tuner on the outside of the box. I have not seen the a box for a while, but I believe the 80 MB Magnavox did the same.

I have not seen specifications for the new Magnavox, but if the only data stream available to be recorded and the data stream used to generate all of the outputs is only SD(as in the Philips which can upconvert that data when sending to the HDMI output), I think it is fair to describe the tuner as "only SD". I think people would have a right to expect HD (720P or 1080I) data processing from a tuner described as ATSC, without any qualifier.

No. You know that.

I tried that last model they had, and it was too unacceptably buggy. Otherwise, I might've kept it.

If the 3576H ever goes down in price, I may try to grab one before they're all gone. Not that it's expensive or anything, I just wouldn't pay that much for it. It's not like I desperately need it or anything.

I think I'm still safe biding my time until 2/09 and seeing what crops up for the Christmas season and at the start of 2009.

Yeah, I'm certainly not going to get swayed into any kind of "panic mode", just because of this recent Philips announcement thing.

I just meant if the price drops a huge amount - like $150.00 or less.

Well, obviously they'll have to be tried and executed for their foul deceptive ways.

Seriously, I'll stick to what I said. If it can tune digital channels, it's tuning some HD programming, some SD. It's what it does afterwards that causes only an SD picture to get recorded.

Hey, some of the ads on the digital changeover describe it as 'the broadcast networks switching to digital'.

The government, as far as I know, hasn't addressed how the networks get their signals to their affiliates.

It's the local channels themselves that are having to do away with analog and leave their digital simulcast as their only signal.

Big difference between a "network" and a "local channel", and those people should know better, and yet they go and blow it on public TV.

For some writer who works for an electronics company to blow it when designing the box something comes in...no big thing. He's still wrong, but it's no big thing. The machine still works, and he's ignorant.

Ford?

Is that you?

Same problem I had. See if you can protect the titles you want to keep and then go to the delete all unprotected titles and see if that gets rid of your offending title.

The older Magnavox DVR was definitely different. It had bugs that I and others here experienced, that the 3575H did not (I had both units to test). Also, someone took them apart and inspected the parts and electronics closely, and the Maggie used some cheaper parts (hard drive brand and electrical parts and components).

Just because they're using the same chassis on this new model as the 3576H doesn't automatically mean everything internal's exactly the same. The last unit's back panel was pretty much the same as the 3575H's if I remember right, except for the HDMI port.

I've sold these product names for quite some time now and can tell you that they are most likely the same product with some exceptions. Magnavox tends to be lower priced model as well as a more cheaply made model. Philips tends to be a little higher end quality product with a higher price tag. Also, Philips products tend to look a little better made from the outside than the magnavox. Philips products tends to have a little more shine on the outside of their products. This appeals to those who are looking for quality. It's basically looking at it from the perspective of Compaq and HP. Compaq computers may have higher specifications at the same price over an HP computer, but chances are, the HP computer has a better chance of being reliable in comparison to Compaq, even though they're owned by the same company.

As the last guy before me put it, they use cheaper quality parts. That's basically what I said in my above statement.

Not true in this case. We know the Philips 3575/76's have Seagate HDDs and last year's Magnavox had a WD HDD (as I remember). This new Magnavox could have either... depends on who designed and spec'd the components.

Not a conclusion, rather a proposition. And as far as facts: until someone buys it, tests it, compares it and posts, we know nothing, we have no real facts.

Ohhh, THAT was the point you were trying to make! Well done!

Lots of things could explain the "why" but the effects show in Funai's 12-mo. sales thru Mar 08, where they show a "deceleration" in DVD recorder sales of 47.8%, which they describe as: "Further slow down of market growth in the main market of US."

...and Funai makes more than 50% of all DVD players/recorders sold in North America!

... along with more than 50% of all commercial DVDs.

Casual Reader, but appreciate forum!

My daughter has been using our new recorder. Quality of hdd recordings is very good, movies/programs broadcast in widescreen play back the same way. A particularly nice feature-- now that she has a number of items on the disc, is that the machine shows them all on screen as a group in small windows, and with a click you can preview them minimized to confirm you want to watch it, or delete the file or hit play to watch the recording on the TV. Seems quite advanced/sophisticated to me. I think she's getting hooked on how good the machine works.

Purchased our machine at Sam's Club and last I checked they were manufactured just a few months ago.

Can I get one word feedback on quality of JBL speaker system SCS-500.5BK for about $350? Seemed like good quality for the $$$ for me. I will check out HTIB/Audio forums next.

Wrong forum.

Suggest you look around this website a bit.

This forum is for DVD recorders, the Philips "75" and "76" in particular.

Look around, you may find a forum that's the place for such a question.

Has she discovered Chase Play and simultaneous recording and playback yet?

Check out this story - My mum has had her Philips hdd/dvd recorder since Mar, and only now did I discover that she had no idea that her shows were recorded internally to a "hdd", rather than the dvd-r that she thought she had to put into the tray to prepare for an upcoming show. I tried to explain it as layman as I could, and there still wasn't an "Ah-ha" moment. So I dared her to try it next time with no disc in the tray, and it will still work. She believes me, but I still don't think she genuinely understands how that is possible.

It's hard to break out of the "vcr mindset", I guess.

So I went ahead and showed her a situation where the dvd-r actually becomes useful. I demonstrated a hi-speed dub from something she already had on the hdd. Somehow, I think that just made an already confusing situation all the more confusing.

So I told her not to worry about keeping a disc in the machine all of the time, and left it at that. When she has something she wants to keep for good, then bug me about how to record a dvd.

...and on top of all that, I come to find out that they went ahead and bought some Memorex dvd-rw's from the local store, because they thought they needed them for the machine. [need a banging forehead on desk smiley right here] I swear, being their IT support for an hdd/dvd recorder seems even more challenging than being support for their home computer.

...and on that same evening, I had to explain to dad that getting one of those hd converters would not be any help for them for the 2009 switchover, since there is no ota transmission in the area in the first place. The only way to get broadcasts in that area is cable, and that is what they already have.

I truly fear for them, sometimes.

Great story!

Only thing I'm afraid of now is she'll have the DVD drive selected, press the REC button, and it won't do anything... unless there's a disc loaded or you showed her how to do a timer rec to HDD!
She'll be calling you saying it didn't work... or it still recorded to the disc!?

Good story, I can relate, when my Dad's (age 87) VCR went bad I bought him the same model of the old one refurbished. He kept using the old remote because he new where all the buttons were. Introducing any new type of technology and how to use it was way more than I could handle.

Imagine where we will be when we are hitting 80?...trying to figure out those wifi holographic widgets that float in mid-air and such! There'll probably be pet dogs and cats with microchips that allow them to operate all of your devices for you. So instead of searching for the missing remote, you'll be hollering where's that damn cat!