Philips DVDR3575H/37 160G HDD DVD Recorder w/ ATSC tuner - Page 138  

Congrats on getting one that seems to be hiccup free!

I shall now grumble at you for at least five minutes before returning to feeling glad for you.

*grin*

Last Week I Purchased a RCA LCD Flat Panel HDTV and I have Comcast Cable . I do not have a Cable Box. I plug my Cable from the Wall directly to the TV. I'm getting all my Analog stations and I'm now getting Digital Channels and Music Channels which is great. My Questions is Sam's has the Philips DVDR3576H Dvd Recorder HDD & DVD PLAYER / RECORDER
WITH DIGITAL TUNER. in stock. Do you know this recorder will pick up the same Analog & Digital channels as my New TV Does?????? Thanks Gerald

Last Week I Purchased a RCA LCD Flat Panel HDTV and I have Comcast Cable . I do not have a Cable Box. I plug my Cable from the Wall directly to the TV. I'm getting all my Analog stations and I'm now getting Digital Channels and Music Channels which is great. My Questions is Sam's has the Philips DVDR3576H Dvd Recorder HDD & DVD PLAYER / RECORDER
WITH DIGITAL TUNER. in stock. Do you know this recorder will pick up the same Analog & Digital channels as my New TV Does?????? Thanks Gerald

You should see all the same channels with the 3576. If you subscribe to a high-def (HD) cable package, the 3576 will pass that HD signal thru to your TV whether the 3576 is on or not, but anything going thru the 3576 tuner or line inputs will be in std def (SD, 480i), which is required by the DVD spec.

Digital channels esp. should still look very good!

Connection would be as shown in sketch #1 here.

Click on link at bottom of that page for lots of other organized help files.

Thanks wajo. I will go buy one Saturday. Have a Blessed Day

Look on the short end of the outer box and try to get one with a "Pack Date" of May 19, 2008 or later... just to get a unit with the latest FW. April 2008 is OK but May or later could be better... hard to know in advance?

Hey Wajo...

Is it possible the later 76s or the Magnavox version might have better tuners? (I've still got that little problem in the area of analog cable channel 55. Still having to use the tuner in my old VCR to feed that channel into the 76. )

Quite possible, if you're talking about your 3575, esp. if you can get a May 19, 2008 or later 3576 with the 0x93 DTV-S like rgazzara got. Even a 3576 with April pack date could be better than the 3575 in tuner performance?

Have you installed the 3575 FW upgrade now online... I did that and I believe it changed one of my 3575's to 0x90... I think mine were all 0x8D's before but I could be delusional!

The 75 is long gone.

I'd sent it to them to be fixed or replaced, they told me it'd take them a week to send another.

Long enough went by where I knew they hadn't sent one, and I contacted them.

A few days later a brand new 76 arrived. That's the one I'm using with an antenna and couldn't be happier.

The 76 I went and bought when the 75 was sent in? It turned out to have exactly the same problem with analog cable ch. 55 (and friends) as the 75 did.

Hmmm....

I wonder what would happen if I switched the two 76s? Put the newer unit on cable and the other one on the antenna?

What was that manufacturing date again, and where on the machine can I find it?

EDIT:
BAH! Only have one of the boxes, and likely the one I have is the one the newer 76 came in. April 15, 2008. Grrrr....

That sounds like a good idea.

Also, why not check to see what FW versions each of your units has... could be the same, but then...?

Use SKIP 1 2 3 as described here... maybe you've already done this... too many posts to keep track of?

I goofed royally.

The box for the newer one was sitting behind the unit the machine is in. Forgot I put it there. That box says May 22, 2008.

Hmmm.....

There's a cable jack right behind that machine. I could easily hook it up to cable without moving it. Might be interesting to change it over for an afternoon to cable, and see what the reception is like on channel 55 and its neighbors...

Does anyone know if the 80gb version of the Magnavox actually records on -R discs?

According to the Wal-Mart webpage it doesn't.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=8054241

The 160gb version does, tho'. Why the difference (if there actually is one)?

Look farther down on that page under "Specifications... all four DVD types are recordable.

I answered your question also on the Mag thread, but best not to double post.

Thanks.

As for double posting, I'm in complete agreement. Only posted there after realizing there was a separate thread for the Magnavox, and this shouldn't have been put in here anyway.

Maybe I should only record off analog for a week as punishment?

That'd be very good punishment, esp. a low analog channel, like 3!

Yesterday, I had power outage for about an hour. The 3575 didn't switch on after the power was restores. I used remote as well as button on the 3575. Then I tried switching on and off the power strip. That also didn't help. Then I took out cables and unhooked it from power strip and put it in another outlet. Tried switching it on by power button, but it refused to power on. Then I thought of trying one last time before calling up customer service, but this time powered on. I disconnected it and put it back to same power strip and connected back all HDMI, av cables etc. It has been working fine since then.

Does any body know, what might have happened ?

Many electronic devices have "standby" power, like our DVDRs, and when there's a power failure, the standby circuit sometimes won't come back on when power is restored. (My dehumidifier acts this way also... it has a touch-pad electronic circuit system.)

Anyway, the standby circuit can almost always be reset by pulling power from the device completely... from the wall, not by a switch. Best to leave power disconnected for a short time... my dehumidifier takes just a few sec., then comes back to "life" after replugging.

When power fails, then comes back on with the device still plugged in, all lights, etc. look like the machine is OK, but the standby circuit can still be "tripped off" so just cuz a device has lights doesn't mean the standby circuit has reset. In my dehuidifier, even the fan works w/o unplugging/resetting, but the compressor doesn't work until the standby circuit gets reset... odd but true.

You might want to get yourself a surge protector.

*sigh*

It happened again.

A couple/few weeks ago my machine twice got an anti-copy signal from over-the-air broadcasts of SMALLVILLE on our CW station's digital channel.

I called the station to complain, and as of the season opener, all's been well.

Until last night.

See, the CW station is owned by the same party that owns one of our major network affiliates, and the two channels share the same broadcasting facility.

Last night on the "major network affiliate" I got an anti-copy signal. Spoiled the recording.

I tried scene-deleting all the commercials, but it did no good. The copyguard icon remained on the thumbnail.

I thought having this machine would make things easier where viewing and recording TV was concerned, but it's bad when my analog recorder, working with analog cable, is able to record the show no problem and the digital recorder using a freebie over-the-air signal gets a recording that can't be burned to disc.

I'd wondered if this had something to do with the CW station's signal being the weakest in our area (about 75%), but the other station's signal is in the 90s. It's GOT to be something they're doing.

I left a message on the Engineering department's voicemail... I think it's the same person I spoke to about the problem on the CW channel. (Since they're owned by the same party and share the same building I'm guessing they share the same Engineering department too.) I've asked them to please make this stop happening, because if it does a 4th time, I'll contact the FCC.

Maybe that was a poor choice on my part, to say that, but when it's only that one broadcaster and it's happened three times in just a few weeks...

Of course, it's happened all three times on the same recorder. Haven't seen it happen on the other 76 that's recording off cable.

Appears that program has copy-once protection since you can record it to HDD but can't offload it to disc, but JFTHOI, try a -RW disc if you've got one... prob. won't work cuz the 3576 doesn't do VR-mode, but inquiring minds want to know anyway... ?

Wow, every day you learn something new. Thanks. That explains it. I will check my dehumidifer as well.

True, but frequently there is a surge of voltage
when the power is restored after an outage.
I learned this the hard way.

A possibly stupid question, but can you plug a surge protector and/or power strip into a UPS without over taxing it?

There are UPS's that have surge protection, and even line-conditioning built in.

That's the thing, tho'. It's illegal for them to be running anti-copy flags on over-the-air broadcasts. And since it shows up sporadically, it can't be something encoded into the shows, but rather something the station is doing wrong.

As for a -RW disc, will that even work when the "no DVD" icon is up?

Bring me up to speed on this, please. Are you saying that in some cases even a "no DVD" flagged show can be burned to -RW DVDs?

EDIT:
Tried it with a Sony -RW, freshly formatted. When I selected that recording's thumbnail to dub, it told me "recording is copy-protected". Why did you think it might work? I'm still curious.

A copy-once program can *usually* be copied to a DVD-RW in VR mode with a CPRM-compliant disc (-RW or -RAM). It was just a test, and now we know the results.

Yes, in some cases. A copy-once program can be transferred to CPRM compliant removable media (RAM or DVD-RW are the only CPRM compliant media) where it is keyed to that specific disk. However, the DVD recorder must also be CPRM compliant in order to do this, because it is required that only 1 copy be in existance at any time. That means the recorder must delete the source program off the HDD after the transfer has been made to the appropriate media. Since the recording format is -VR mode, the reverse transfer is possible; the program can be dubbed back to the DVD recorders HDD and afterwards it will be deleted from the removable media.

The Philips, Magnavox recorders are not CPRM compliant. All Panasonic recorders are CPRM compliant recording to RAM only and not to DVD-RW. I'm not sure about Pioneer and Toshiba, but the models that record to RAM probably are.

My older Pioneer 520-H HD DVD recorder manual says it is CPRM-compliant for recording to the hard drive and to CPRM-compliant discs (which I think are all -RW). I have never tried this feature in part because I have never encountered a CPRM-protected program to record.

You are correct, Kelson.

Here is the relevant section from the Philips DVDR3576H manual.

Dubbing of a copy-once only program is not possible with this unit.

Well, I think we all know the machine reacts to the anti-copy flags.

The problem is, such flages aren't supposed to even BE there on OTA broadcasts.

In the next room, my other Philips DVR/DVDrecorder (the 3455, which has no digital tuner) was happily recording the show off analog cable using its own cable-ready tuner. At least I did get the show recorded, but this all sort of spoils the whole point of being able to record OTA digital.

I might as well use an OTA digital tuner and an analog recorder, with one of those "filters" between the two that gets rid of copy-guard signals.