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post #4651 of 4792
Are the adjacent titles ones created by Dividing, followed by Scene Deletes?

Do you do a fair amount of editing?

How full is your HDD?
post #4652 of 4792
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Originally Posted by goldenear View Post

. . . So I had to open the unit to get it out.

The sticker is CHEAP, and it did not break when I pulled the cover off. here's what I discovered - they used a Seagate IDE HDD which is GOOD because I've had great luck with these drives. Exact model # is ST3160215ACE. The DVD housing pieces had multiple numbers on them, probably corresponding to the individual pieces. Here are some if anyone wants to look into them:

N78F0DUM
N78P3DUN
L4379011904

Sorry no pics, did not expect to have to pull the cover, LOL. Assembly looked nice and tidy . . .

The above text refers to a 3575 in a December 2007 post in this thread.

In March I replaced the hard drive in my 2080. I took photos, including the one attched below. That photo shows the same model number for the DVD Drive, N78F0DUM, as reported by that poster.

I would hope that when opening any Funai DVD Recorder of recent production, say 2007 or newer, that board members would report the machine's model number, month/year of production and the model number (or other numbers) found on the DVD Drive. Perhaps this will provide information that may allow swapping of DVD Drives among/between different models as necessary.

While there are certain enhanced DVD Drive functionalities found on higher-line products than those found on lower-line products, perhaps those functionalities are provided/controlled through the CBA rather than being native to the DVD Drive itself. If that is the case there is a possibility that the same model DVD Drive(s) may be found in several Funai-manufactured DVD Recorders.

Let's pool our resources to address these matters.
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post #4653 of 4792
My bet is the guts their dvd loader/burner is made of are a BenQ/philips and probably could do up to 16x and DL if the firmware or whatever they use to control it allowed.
The burns from mine that I've tested usually are of very good quality similar to what you get with the BenQ 1620 through 1655 series drives, and it USUALLY doesn't seem to care about quality of the media, it just chugs along and does a good burn.
If they used normal IDE type power and data connectors we'd probably be home free right now, BUT NOOO!!!!!
post #4654 of 4792
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post


Let's pool our resources to address these matters.

Same numbers for my 3575 Jan 2008
post #4655 of 4792
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Originally Posted by auskck View Post

Same numbers for my 3575 Jan 2008

Today I opened a digital-tuner Sylvania ZV450SL8 of April 2007 manufacture. The first photo shows that model with the top removed. The only number I could find on the DVD Drive was a sticker with L4674007138, as seen in the second photo. I lifted the CBA to see if there were other numbers but none were found.

The surprize is that the CBA's main chip is from PANASONIC!
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post #4656 of 4792
Got a glitch in my 3576, I did a new auto channel search including DTV and now when I use channel up/down in DTV mode instead of going to the next digital channel it cycles between USB, E1-rear, E2-front, E3-dv-n.

Only way of getting out of this is pressing source which brings it back to analog.

Looked in the manual but could not find anything.
Did a reset, did not help.
What did I do?
post #4657 of 4792
Sounds like it might have forgotten all the digital channels it found. One of my units does that all the time but it's a early 3575.
Wajo has one that he can get the channels back by rapidly pushing the DTV/TV button.
If your lucky it just got confused and maybe a rescan will take and hold the channels for you.
It is a known issue with these units if you go through the thread, but the newer ones seem to be OK after a certain build date.
post #4658 of 4792
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Originally Posted by Dartman View Post

Sounds like it might have forgotten all the digital channels it found. One of my units does that all the time but it's a early 3575.
Wajo has one that he can get the channels back by rapidly pushing the DTV/TV button.
If your lucky it just got confused and maybe a rescan will take and hold the channels for you.
It is a known issue with these units if you go through the thread, but the newer ones seem to be OK after a certain build date.

The April 2007 Sylvania ZV450SL8 that just came into my hands held onto the clear QAM digital sub-channels in the 2-118 range for about two days and then seemed to lose them. Yesterday morning two scheduled overnight recordings on channel 2.2 were found to have a blank picture. Since our local Comcast service has been making some changes I though that might be the problem but there has been no interruption or loss of the clear QAM sub-channels with the July 2007 Magnavox 2080 in the next room. That 2080 continues pulling in the clear QAM digital sub-channels in the 2-118 range.

After discovering the blank recordings I re-ran the Sylvania's Extended (digital) Cable Channel Scan twice. Following the channel scans I attempted direct channel entry or channel up/down for several sub-channels in the 2-49 range but found nothing.

At the time I thought these re-scans didn't find the clear QAM sub-channels.

This morning I tried direct channel entry; finding the clear QAM digital sub-channels in the 73-118 range. Direct entry still doesn't find the clear QAM digital sub-channels below 73.

Perhaps the tuner in the Sylvania ZV450SL8 is somewhat less compatible with the Comcast clear QAM signal than the tuner in the Magnavox 2080.

Might this just be an anomaly with some models, or is there some other explanation?
post #4659 of 4792
sounds like it may have the same issues as the 3575 machines do, probably the same tuner.
You might also want to make sure the splitter and cable to it are quad shielded high quality stuff because just not tuning a channel that's there in the first sub has never happened to me on direct entry unless the signals really bad.
I sure wish it allowed us to program in and delete the subs on a main channel we don't want, my LG tuner allows it. I also think ever so often Comcast will be screwing around with certain bands of channels because I've had like 8 and 10 suddenly be unwatchable and pixelated then be fine a hour or days later and I haven't changed anything.
post #4660 of 4792
i have the panasonic ez 48vk and it freezes up ,,, i also have a phillips CD recorder for like 8 years durable never breaks good product,, so maybe there dvdr is up to par
post #4661 of 4792
DigaDo, this direct channel entry; finding the clear QAM digital sub-channels happens to mine as well but I found to fix this is if you simply switch over to analog and get a clear signal then go back to digital it seems to pull it in.
post #4662 of 4792
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Originally Posted by dww View Post

DigaDo, this direct channel entry; finding the clear QAM digital sub-channels happens to mine as well but I found to fix this is if you simply switch over to analog and get a clear signal then go back to digital it seems to pull it in.

You might not even have to wait for a pic on analog... hold button down till it switches to analog and back to digital... should have digital channels back again in about a NY second.
post #4663 of 4792
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

You might not even have to wait for a pic on analog... hold button down till it switches to analog and back to digital... should have digital channels back again in about a NY second.

Thanks wajo,
Dartman, I scanned about 6 times and it finally held, I thought I found a secret.
After scanning I watched channel 2 for awhile then switched over to digital and it showed 2.1 and allowed channel up and down, before it showed 1.1
Did it a second time and held again now I think it is just fussy about Comcast.
post #4664 of 4792
Well if it now continues to stay put as far as channels till they move stuff around your good to go. Sometimes it takes a hour or a day to loose em if it's one that will so wait and see then count your blessings if it holds.
My second one of much later build never looses them but it took a couple tries to get a stable one for me.
post #4665 of 4792
It's going to hold the channels as I lost them because I did a re-scan in the first place.

So what's up with the rumor that Phillips or (Funi) was going to make the unit one more year.
We are past the spring or April mark and nothing, I guess that's it?

Those DTV boxes they are selling in the stores will not pick up digital channels on the cable system will they?
Are there any stores that sell one that will?

Phiillips 3576 Mfg Date 02/2008 Second unit bought 02/2009 Mfg Date 02/2008
post #4666 of 4792
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Originally Posted by dww View Post

It's going to hold the channels as I lost them because I did a re-scan in the first place.

So what's up with the rumor that Phillips or (Funi) was going to make the unit one more year.
We are past the spring or April mark and nothing, I guess that's it?

Those DTV boxes they are selling in the stores will not pick up digital channels on the cable system will they?
Are there any stores that sell one that will?

Phiillips 3576 Mfg Date 02/2008 Second unit bought 02/2009 Mfg Date 02/2008

The clone version, Magnavox 2160A, is this year's model, available at Walmart.com. It can operate side-by-side with the 3575/3576 cuz their remotes don't clash.

See this help file for the major differencee.
post #4667 of 4792
As far as I know they are ONLY designed to do NTSC and ATSC OTA digital signals for the people that can't afford/don't want cable and don't have a new enough TV to have the tuner built in.
My Toshiba 34HFX84 34" CRT set does not have a digital tuner at all because back when it was out that was a added cost that most didn't want to pay for.
I ended up with a LG 4200a tuner that does it all and use it when I want HDTV. I also have a Dvico Fusion 3 HDTV PC tuner that does it all as well and will capture in the clear HD as well at native resolutions with the digital sound.
Depending on what Comcast here and many other cable co's all of this may be useless tuner wise about June if they scramble everything but the locals.
None of the cheap tuners do actual HD that I'm aware of either so people that can still get a bunch of clear QAM channels might as well poney up more money and buy one of these while they can.
post #4668 of 4792
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Originally Posted by Dartman View Post

sounds like it may have the same issues as the 3575 machines do, probably the same tuner.

Of my Philips, Magnavox and Sylvania digital tuner machines I've only opened the Magnavox 2080 and the Sylvania ZV450. The digital/analog tuners in these machines have the parts number, other coding and lot number printed on one side; with date coding and another number on a sticker affixed to the other side.

The tuner in a July 2007 Magnavox H2080MW8 has these numbers:

UTUNNTUSP033 (part number)
U1003AF
LOT FUDe

200707059A (date code?)
E2H0000230

The tuner in an April 2007 Sylvania ZV450SL8 has these numbers:

UTUNNTUSP033 (part number)
U1003AF
LOT FUCN

2007040606TU (date code?)
E9H000606

Addendum: I am adding a brighter, clearer ZV450 tuner photo to this post.
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post #4669 of 4792
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Originally Posted by dww View Post

...Those DTV boxes they are selling in the stores will not pick up digital channels on the cable system will they?
Are there any stores that sell one that will?

If by "Those DTV boxes they are selling in the stores", you mean a CECB (Coupon Eligible Converter Box), there are Government imposed restrictions on the features of those units. They can only contain a digital tuner for OTA(Over The Air). Those rules also limit the types of outputs the CECBs can provide. The best they can offer is S-Video. They are intended to allow people to use old TVs after the DTV conversion. The DTV conversion did not have to effect cable and satellite customers. The satellite and cable systems could have completely insulated their customers from the conversion, if they had wanted to. I suspect they are taking advantage of the DTV conversion to make changes to their systems which are intended to increase revenues, and that many consumers will assume are a result of the DTV conversion.

I am OTA only, but if I was a cable customer, I would be reluctant to spend any money for a converter box that I could only hope would work with the cable system. It seems like the cable companies have a lot flexibility to make changes that will frustrate any advanced capabilities in boxes they have not provided.
post #4670 of 4792
Well Comcast here will give you one basic non HD box that can do PPV and on demand free stuff plus 2 of the tuner only converters. According to the letter we got that's no extra monthly charge as far as I could see. I'm sure they're hoping at the least you'll order some movies, and hopefully you'll decide to get a HD/DVR box and start rental fees on the box and even more money for the HD channels package a month.
post #4671 of 4792
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

Of my Philips, Magnavox and Sylvania digital tuner machines I've only opened the Magnavox 2080 and the Sylvania ZV450. The digital/analog tuners in these machines have the parts number, other coding and lot number printed on one side; with date coding and another number on a sticker affixed to the other side.

The tuner in a July 2007 Magnavox H2080MW8 has these numbers:

UTUNNTUSP033 (part number)
U1003AF
LOT FUDe

200707059A (date code?)
E2H0000230

The tuner in an April 2007 Sylvania ZV450SL8 has these numbers:

UTUNNTUSP033 (part number)
U1003AF
LOT FUCN

2007040606TU (date code?)
E9H000606

Yup, same part numbers, just different lots so same problems I'd guess. Too bad they'll never let us do HD recording with our own gear. Hoping they don't scramble everything over 30 but I'm sure the greedy SOB's are considering it to make themselves even more money.
post #4672 of 4792
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

Of my Philips, Magnavox and Sylvania digital tuner machines I've only opened the Magnavox 2080 and the Sylvania ZV450. The digital/analog tuners in these machines have the parts number, other coding and lot number printed on one side; with date coding and another number on a sticker affixed to the other side.

The tuner in a July 2007 Magnavox H2080MW8 has these numbers:

UTUNNTUSP033 (part number)
U1003AF
LOT FUDe

200707059A (date code?)
E2H0000230

The tuner in an April 2007 Sylvania ZV450SL8 has these numbers:

UTUNNTUSP033 (part number)
U1003AF
LOT FUCN

2007040606TU (date code?)
E9H000606


I just cracked open one of my 3575's to upgrade the HDD and found the following info.

This is a refurb unit manufactured 4/07 and refurbed 11/07.

Tuner

UTUNNTUSP033
U1003AF
LOT FUDe

200704179A
E2H4000320


Burner

N78FODUM


Note there are some different numbers on the tuner.
post #4673 of 4792
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Originally Posted by ti-triodes View Post

I just cracked open one of my 3575's to upgrade the HDD and found the following info.

This is a refurb unit manufactured 4/07 and refurbed 11/07.

Tuner

UTUNNTUSP033
U1003AF
LOT FUDe

200704179A
E2H4000320


Burner

N78FODUM


Note there are some different numbers on the tuner.

My 5/2/09 post (#4658) described operational or performance problems with my April 2007 Sylvania ZV450 combo recorder (recently purchased used) that has the same UTUNNTUSP033/UI003AF tuner found in my July 2007 Magnavox 2080. While these tuners have the same part number they are from different lots.

Ti-triodes reports that the same UTUNNTUSP033/UI003AF tuner is used in an April 2007 3575. That tuner's LOT FUDe is the same lot as that found in my July 2007 2080.

Perhaps the same UTUNNTUSP033/UI003AF tuner is used in the 3576 and the 2160 as well.

My Philips 3575 and Magnavox 2080 and 2160 models operate and perform very well.

My Sylvania ZV450SL8 does not tune digital sub-channels below the channel 73 range and can only access digital sub-channels in the channel 73-118 range through direct channel entry. The remote’s channel up/down buttons select only between L1 and L2 when DTV is selected. Analog channels may be tuned with channel up/down or through direct channel entry when TV is selected. Wajo, dww and Dartman gave advice ranging from upgrading the coax cable, switching back to analog and then back to digital or holding the remote’s DTV/TV button. These remedial measures have not corrected the problems. Yesterday I moved the ZV450 to a different room where a six foot length of shielded RG6 coax was connected directly from the 2080 RF output (for an amplified pass through signal) to the ZV450. A re-scan of the channels resulted in no functional improvement.

The Magnavox 2080 continues to tune all the digital sub-channels with channel up/down or through direct entry.

Are the Sylvania ZV450 problems a sample defect or are these problems inherent to the ZV450 model? I don’t know.

While operational or performance differences might be attributed to sample variations/defects, another explanation may be found in hardware/software differences resident to these models’ “MAIN PCB.” Photos of the Main PCB of my 2080 and ZV450 are attached.

Update 1: As of 5/22/2009 the Sylvania ZV450 only intermittantly directly-tuned clear QAM channels in the channel 73 and higher range, even after running a new (enhanced, i.e., "analog and digital") channel scan. The splitters were recently upgraded from 5 MHz-1 GHz models (Regal GS2DGH and Ideal 85-134) to 5MHz-2.3GHz models (GE/Jasco AV22694 and 87625). The 2080, also set up cable-ready, continues to tune the clear QAM channels as normal. On 5/23/2009 the ZV450 was set up for OTA (ATSC) reception where it appears to function normally.

Update 2: In recent weeks the Philips 3576 has developed the same weak clear QAM performance deficiencies as the Sylvania ZV450SL8 (subsequently given to a daughter who reports that the Sylvania is satisfactory for her use). A few days ago the 3576 was reconfigured for OTA use where it performs satisfactorily.
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post #4674 of 4792
Here is an update for those who suggested that my problems viewing or copying movies from the hard drive might be solved by re-formatting.
Before re-formatting the hard drive, I was unable, after viewing a movie I'd recorded onto the hard drive from FoxMovie channel, to copy it to a DVD. After re-formatting, I recorded the same movie when FoxMovie showed it again, & I was able to copy it from the HD to a DVD.
post #4675 of 4792
I have a Philips DVDR3576H/37 Manufactured in Feb 2008 for sale. I have box, manuals. Also purchased a 3 yr extended warranty. Accepting reasonable offers.
post #4676 of 4792
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Originally Posted by Uno View Post

Here is an update for those who suggested that my problems viewing or copying movies from the hard drive might be solved by re-formatting.
Before re-formatting the hard drive, I was unable, after viewing a movie I'd recorded onto the hard drive from FoxMovie channel, to copy it to a DVD. After re-formatting, I recorded the same movie when FoxMovie showed it again, & I was able to copy it from the HD to a DVD.

Do you loose any saved information such as previous recorded shows?


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Originally Posted by jerrisn View Post

I have a Philips DVDR3576H/37 Manufactured in Feb 2008 for sale. I have box, manuals. Also purchased a 3 yr extended warranty. Accepting reasonable offers.

Why don't you want it anymore?
post #4677 of 4792
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Originally Posted by dww View Post

Do you loose any saved information such as previous recorded shows?(...)

When you format a HDD you lose everything that was on it.
post #4678 of 4792
Hey folks,

Not sure if this is specific to this model, or a more generic issue.

It appears that I can not record some channels from my digital cable box any longer. I suspect that this is a signal being sent from the provider (Rogers).

Is it possible that it's an issue with the box? It's only certain channels. Teletoon (Ch 45) is one of them.

Any tips?

Secondly - have there been any f/w updates on this box in the last 12 months?
post #4679 of 4792
6/18/2007 was the first and only update for the 3575 so far, nothing that I'm aware of for the newer units
post #4680 of 4792
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Originally Posted by Howard2k View Post

Hey folks,

Not sure if this is specific to this model, or a more generic issue.

It appears that I can not record some channels from my digital cable box any longer. I suspect that this is a signal being sent from the provider (Rogers).

Is it possible that it's an issue with the box? It's only certain channels. Teletoon (Ch 45) is one of them.

It's not uncommon to get a false copy protection message with this unit. I saw something in another thread here just the other day about how having your cable box/SAT receiver or CRT TV too close to the Philips unit could cause a false CP. I believe it was in this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...40657&page=174

Check the last few pages, I believe you'll find it.
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