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post #61 of 197
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Originally Posted by Tim in Phoenix View Post

Andres

I am pleased that you are pleased. I usually run Contrast 40 on my meager 107" screen width, 50 if visitors are viewing. I finally got to speak with Gino on the phone! Carry on mates.....

Contrast 40?

Sheesh. You need a bigger screen.

Cliffy
post #62 of 197
Andres

More pics! More pics!
post #63 of 197
Thread Starter 
Hey - we stayed up until 6:30AM yesterday (we ran into some problems with one of my new tubes -which we replaced with another one- and also one of my MP2 VIMs seems wacky)... but we finally got it to work!!!

We'll do the color tracking today and we'll post a few pics!
post #64 of 197
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Hey guys,

Here's some pics as promised...

The setup:


This one will give you an idea of the size:


And this one shows the great detail:


All the above has been possible thanks to Gino!!! :-)
post #65 of 197
AWESOME!!!! I wish I was there!!!!!!!

Cliff
post #66 of 197
Dang!
post #67 of 197
Must. Change. Pants.
post #68 of 197
Well Chuck me Farley!

Damnnnnnnnnnnnn



Awesome work!
post #69 of 197
Think "Personal Imax" and you begin to get the idea
post #70 of 197
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Originally Posted by Tim in Phoenix View Post

Think "Personal Imax" and you begin to get the idea

Um, yeah, what he said. That is sick as all hell.

Cliff
post #71 of 197
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Originally Posted by antorsae View Post

Hey guys,

Here's some pics as promised...

The setup:


Now thats what I call a decent size for a picture. It looks like your room is actually wider than it is deep!

Antorsae,as great as the setup is I am equally impressed with the quality of the dedicated floor space you have for this. How big is the room? It looks like the floor slopes just like a professional theater. How did you do that?

I can already tell, this is really going to be first class.
post #72 of 197
Bloody Hell
post #73 of 197
Wow! Be careful when you follow 2 different forums at once!
post #74 of 197
WOW Andres!!!

I looks AWESOME.

Quite an improvement since the time I was there, just a few weeks ago!

Way to go!
post #75 of 197
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Originally Posted by RVonse View Post

Now thats what I call a decent size for a picture. It looks like your room is actually wider than it is deep!

Antorsae,as great as the setup is I am equally impressed with the quality of the dedicated floor space you have for this. How big is the room? It looks like the floor slopes just like a professional theater. How did you do that?

I can already tell, this is really going to be first class.

the room looks much bigger than it actually is and this is due to the distortion caused by using an ultra wide lens. I believe it must be Gino who took the photo using a Canon 5D + an ultra wide lens (either 17-40 or the 16-35). The sloping floor is also due to the distortion.
post #76 of 197
Incredible ,incredible ! Andres, you are great guy I'm really happy to see you have gotten close to your dream. Talk about a cinematic experience, except much better !

Art
post #77 of 197
You guys have no idea!! Personal IMAX is an understatement. This thing is wide! 15ft wide! I thought mine was big, this is 15% bigger yet again, using a little higher gain, and his tubes are brand spanking new. Despite the screen width, Andres likes his first row of seating less than screenwidth, it is completely in your face. Then the screen takes up most of the front wall, which adds to the illusion of sheer size. I wish we had the luxmeter, I´m very curious to see how much light we are getting. His batcave really adds too.

It was hard work, due to some hiccups along the way, i didn´t get enough time to really dial it in. We are maybe 75% there, if I had another 2 days I´d be really super impressed, not to say it isn´t already incredible! We were joking that in the photos we took, we look like hobbits next to the screen.

My biggest reward for showing Andres how to set it all up was his giggling like a little kid. Then it became non stop swearing, and then on the final day, it was his complete loss for words!

Thanks Andres, I´ve had a blast, you´re a real enthusiast, and as Jessica joked about, i´m glad to finally meet someone as insane as myself

Which reminds me, I need to give you a call so we can finally watch a movie tonight!
post #78 of 197
Hehehe

More pix!!!!!!!
post #79 of 197
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Originally Posted by Gino AUS View Post

You guys have no idea!! Personal IMAX is an understatement. This thing is wide! 15ft wide!

IMAX screens are 52 feet wide so it's not really an understatement

I'd still kill to see it though...
post #80 of 197
Thread Starter 
Hi all,

Thanks for the comments.

Yes, the room looks a bit bigger (and distorted) in the pics as we have used a 10-20mm ultra-wide lenses to take some pics (except the T-rex one which we used a 55mm one to capture the detail). The room dimensions are roughly 6m wide and 8m deep. There are two ceiling heights, the ceiling is higher over the second row - this helps acoustics and gives more breathing space to the second row.

I am extremelly happy with the picture we managed to put up on the screen. We only did a quick grayscale tracking to get 6500K on one projector and adjust the other by eye (I must say that Gino has a very well trained eye... way better than mine! I will have to use the colorimeter in both projectors and I intent to use it too to do grayscale tracking in 3 zones for each PJ in the blend zone). That said, and with a very rough blend setup, the blend zone is not noticeable while watching movies.

I will be ceiling mounting the projectors soon. I first need to get the new OEM blue tube fixed (it showed retrace lines, so we put an almost new one with 0 wear) and also I want the VIM on the right PJ to have the same mods as the left one (the left side has MP2 and the right MP1). I hope to get everything with regards to the equipment to my satisfaction very soon (VIM and blue tube mostly).

I will be posting measurements and more pics as I iterate through the setup.

Gino and I are just watching a movie... THIS IS FREAKING AMAZING!!!
post #81 of 197
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Originally Posted by klover View Post

IMAX screens are 52 feet wide so it's not really an understatement

Yes, but you not sitting 26 ft away from the IMAX screen, we are sitting at much less than screen width.
post #82 of 197
Thread Starter 
Hey - a few more comments:

I am running 1365 x 1024 @ 72 Hz on each projector. Pans at 72 Hz are *super smooth* and I can see no rainbows at 72 Hz (I can at 60 Hz). I believe the extra bandwith of the MP2 mods plus the Blendzilla (which basically relaxes BW requirements substantially) is really a factor for the crispness and liquidity of the image.

I will be needing some black material around the screen to frame it. Can somebody recommend a good one?
post #83 of 197
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Originally Posted by antorsae View Post

Hey - a few more comments:

I am running 1365 x 1024 @ 72 Hz on each projector. Pans at 72 Hz are *super smooth* and I can see no rainbows at 72 Hz (I can at 60 Hz). I believe the extra bandwith of the MP2 mods plus the Blendzilla (which basically relaxes BW requirements substantially) is really a factor for the crispness and liquidity of the image.

I will be needing some black material around the screen to frame it. Can somebody recommend a good one?

Andres,

I used black Velveteen. Soaks up light like the black hole. If I'm not mistaken, pretty much the same stuff Ruben uses for his frames. Gino will be able to report back to you after his visit what he thinks.

Cliffy
post #84 of 197
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Originally Posted by antorsae View Post

I am running 1365 x 1024 @ 72 Hz on each projector. Pans at 72 Hz are *super smooth* and I can see no rainbows at 72 Hz (I can at 60 Hz).


Rainbows?
post #85 of 197
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Originally Posted by antorsae View Post

And this one shows the great detail:

Nice work! Here's the original screen capture of around the same frame:

for full 2.6MB 1920x1080p capture, click here!
post #86 of 197
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by klover View Post

Rainbows?

Yes, I see rainbows on CRTs. Apparently this is due to the different decay time of the three phosphors and it is less noticeable the higher the refresh rate. At 72 Hz I cannot see them, but I do at 60 Hz.
post #87 of 197
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Originally Posted by antorsae View Post

Yes, I see rainbows on CRTs. Apparently this is due to the different decay time of the three phosphors and it is less noticeable the higher the refresh rate. At 72 Hz I cannot see them, but I do at 60 Hz.

Actually I see them also but only blue on my set up and then only with high contrast B&W films.

Art
post #88 of 197
Holy crap! Amazing!

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Originally Posted by M9500LC View Post

I believe it must be Gino who took the photo using a Canon 5D + an ultra wide lens (either 17-40 or the 16-35). The sloping floor is also due to the distortion.

FYI: I looked at the EXIF info and it's Gino's full-frame Canon 5D, but it's a 10mm lens (which is why it's so wide).

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Originally Posted by overclkr View Post

I used black Velveteen. Soaks up light like the black hole.

I've been using velveteen for years as well. It soaks up light better than 'real' velvet and it's cheaper to boot. My screen frame's wrapped in it. It soaks up light so well that uou can *just* barely make out a full-white field shiniing on it! (That's with my single 8" 1200 lumen PJ of course... no blend here.)

Kal
post #89 of 197
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Originally Posted by kal View Post

Holy crap! Amazing!

FYI: I looked at the EXIF info and it's Gino's full-frame Canon 5D, but it's a 10mm lens (which is why it's so wide).

The lens are 10-20mm; and I believe Gino set them at 20mm. But yeah, it's wide.
post #90 of 197
Thread Starter 
Hi guys,

Just a quick update: I watched a movie last night with my wife and she said the screen was so big that she couldn't focus on the picture and she got a bit dizzy, so I've done a bit of size reduction to the picture (from 15ft wide to 12.5ft wide), and after a very rough setup my observations so far:

- I can now sit in the first row and see the whole picture without having to move my head/eyes too much (when we watched "Hero" with Gino and Jessica I could only focus on the subtitles... not anymore ) Net of it is that the first row would be usable now by everybody (and not just me)

- Even without framing, the picture looks much more dynamic now. My wife says is even a bit too bright, but I like this a bit better, is SUPER DYNAMIC now...

- Obviously there's a compromise between size and brightness. I was running contrast at 63 for 15 ft. I find I like the picture MUCH more the 12.5 ft picture than the huge one. After seeing the 12.5 ft picture I recommend Blendzilla users to try this or surroundings.

Regards.
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