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Will a TV/FM antenna booster help me pull in some of the fringe area HD stations better? They come in OK with my Accurian, but it drops out a lot, I was wondering if that might make it more stable? I have like 5 FM/TV amps laying around that I could hook up...
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Will a TV/FM antenna booster help me pull in some of the fringe area HD stations better? They come in OK with my Accurian, but it drops out a lot, I was wondering if that might make it more stable? I have like 5 FM/TV amps laying around that I could hook up...

As a general rule, (according to NPR) No.

Amplified for HD is not a good suggestion, and from what I have heard about their testing is that it actually reduced reception. I am not sure, but that is what I am told.

Still, the best FM HD Antenna (Also according to NPR Labs) is the C.Crane FM Reflect Antenna $25 made by Sangean. And I am not saying that just because I work here.

Does the Accurian come with a dipole antenna, whip, or pigtail? I have found that, even with our table radio (HDR-1) a dipole provides about 2-3db improved reception over the included whip antenna.
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As a general rule, (according to NPR) No.

Amplified for HD is not a good suggestion, and from what I have heard about their testing is that it actually reduced reception. I am not sure, but that is what I am told.

Still, the best FM HD Antenna (Also according to NPR Labs) is the C.Crane FM Reflect Antenna $25 made by Sangean. And I am not saying that just because I work here.

Does the Accurian come with a dipole antenna, whip, or pigtail? I have found that, even with our table radio (HDR-1) a dipole provides about 2-3db improved reception over the included whip antenna.

The Accurian when I baught it just came with a wire antenna, it did ok for local, but I'm using a outdoor 12 element Yagi antenna, still HD does drop out on fringe stations. I was hoping that the amp would of helped my drop out problem.
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I use a 10DB Radio shack TV booster on my Dipole (T-antenna) using a 300 to 50 ohm transformer. It greatly improves performance. The Boston Acoustics would be unusable on HD without it.
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There is no one solution for everyone in getting better reception, powered works for some and non powered for others, I have tried both with mixed results (on my HD tuner), with the powered antenna I pick up a few more stations but I need to reduce the gain for others.
Without the powered antenna, again fewer stations but the ones that I can pick up have a good signal.

Antenna positioning is a major factor in quality of the reception.
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The reason amplified is often a "no no" is that noise in many (most?) amplifiers clobbers the weak HD information (1/100th the power of analog). The overall rf level may be raised (is), but you're "burning the village in order to save it". There ARE exceptions. I've found a couple of amplified antennas that work AS WELL as my Magnum Dynalab SR100 "Silver Ribbon". None work better, but some work as well. And "only" cost twice as much!

I'm speaking strictly of indoor antennas. The "FM Reflect" isn't the "best" HD antenna. It's merely the best INDOOR hd antenna (which is what NPR claims). An outdoor antenna on a mast, with rotor is ALWAYS best for VHF reception, including analog and digital (HD) FM. But it's just not practical for many of us.
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Will a TV/FM antenna booster help me pull in some of the fringe area HD stations better? They come in OK with my Accurian, but it drops out a lot, I was wondering if that might make it more stable? I have like 5 FM/TV amps laying around that I could hook up...



I don't know what NPR found but my system has a mast mounted pre-amp and it works like a charm for HD reception. Here's the way my antenna system is configured. The attic mounted VHF/UHF antenna is hung from the rafters via fish line. At the antenna end there's a 300 to 75 ohm transformer and a short run of RG 6 connects the pre-amp to the transformer. About 5 or 10 foot of RG 6 is used, still inside the attic where the power supply for the preamp is located. From the power supply the RG 6 runs outside of my home to a passive switch located at the side of my house. At the switch, 3 runs of RG 6 (two sat TV runs and the TV antenna cable) connect to the input where they are combined and split again to four seperate outputs. Each output contains the combined RF. I use three outputs going to three seperate Directv receivers. The fourth output is terminated with a 75 ohm resister. At the room where the Sangean tuner is located, the coax enters and the feed is split into two outputs, one side being the satellite feed and the other being the TV antenna feed. The sat end goes directly into the Directv receiver and the TV antenna feed is again split so that both the Directv receiver and the Sangean receiver can be fed. You can add another 30 foot of cable running from the spit to the receiver. With that setup, I have heard stations with the Sangean which I have not heard using any other radio. The furthest full service station I can hear with the Sangean is about 150 miles south of me between 2 local first adjacents. I also receive a nearly full quieting stereo station on 88.9, running 11 watts. That station is 50 miles from my location. I receive every NY FM HD station solidly. There's a HD station which is some 60 miles south of my location and I have no problem with them either. So the answer is if you have the amps try them, what have you got to lose. Mine works very well.
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I don't know what NPR found but my system has a mast mounted pre-amp and it works like a charm for HD reception. Here's the way my antenna system is configured. The attic mounted VHF/UHF antenna is hung from the rafters via fish line. At the antenna end there's a 300 to 75 ohm transformer and a short run of RG 6 connects the pre-amp to the transformer. About 5 or 10 foot of RG 6 is used, still inside the attic where the power supply for the preamp is located. From the power supply the RG 6 runs outside of my home to a passive switch located at the side of my house. At the switch, 3 runs of RG 6 (two sat TV runs and the TV antenna cable) connect to the input where they are combined and split again to four seperate outputs. Each output contains the combined RF. I use three outputs going to three seperate Directv receivers. The fourth output is terminated with a 75 ohm resister. At the room where the Sangean tuner is located, the coax enters and the feed is split into two outputs, one side being the satellite feed and the other being the TV antenna feed. The sat end goes directly into the Directv receiver and the TV antenna feed is again split so that both the Directv receiver and the Sangean receiver can be fed. You can add another 30 foot of cable running from the spit to the receiver. With that setup, I have heard stations with the Sangean which I have not heard using any other radio. The furthest full service station I can hear with the Sangean is about 150 miles south of me between 2 local first adjacents. I also receive a nearly full quieting stereo station on 88.9, running 11 watts. That station is 50 miles from my location. I receive every NY FM HD station solidly. There's a HD station which is some 60 miles south of my location and I have no problem with them either. So the answer is if you have the amps try them, what have you got to lose. Mine works very well.

Thanks I may half to try that, all I need is a extra cord to plug in from the amp to the reciever. I have my setup where my TV antenna is on top of the pole about 25' up and my FM is about 20' up. My dish is on the other side and my broadband antenna is by my tv/fm antennas, but I dont think that has any effect on the signals. I'll post my results when I get it all setup. Thanks again everyone for the info!
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