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post #421 of 1454
10/4/07 at 10:44am
where do you find the manufactured date?
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post #422 of 1454
10/4/07 at 6:12pm
On the back of the TV on a label under the audio/video connections.
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post #423 of 1454
10/5/07 at 8:03am
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On the back of the TV on a label under the audio/video connections.

thanks.
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post #424 of 1454
10/5/07 at 10:33pm
Hey all,

Well, I picked up the 42LB5D. I am loving it. Before this I tried Vizio and Sharp. The LG is awesome so far. I didn't read this thread beforehand, so I don't know the manufacture date, I'm going to check in a bit. The PQ is awesome. I also love the fact that the digital optical output passes audio to all inputs; meaning I get sound on the HDMI inputs and I also get sound from both SD and HD TV channels. The other brands did not; I could only get sound on the HD channels - so I used analog audio outs instead.

SO, the LG is doing great so far. No red spots so far - I read some people had this issue, but it may be from older build dates.

My main question: Is there a way to get the TV to display what resolution of a program you are watching. For example, can the TV indicate that a show is being displayed in 1080i or 720p? Or 1080p when I have it on an HDMI input playing xbox? The remote doesn't have an "info" button...
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post #425 of 1454
10/6/07 at 3:18am
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Hey all,
My main question: Is there a way to get the TV to display what resolution of a program you are watching. For example, can the TV indicate that a show is being displayed in 1080i or 720p? Or 1080p when I have it on an HDMI input playing xbox? The remote doesn't have an "info" button...

Just use the Enter button.
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post #426 of 1454
10/6/07 at 10:18pm
If you are going to buy one of these LG 42LB5D and you want to make sure you get a specific manufacturing date all you have to do is look at the serial number on the outside of the box. It will start with 3 digits where the first digit is the year and the second two are the month. There is no need to look at the back of the TV itself.

This information comes from LG customer support.

E.g. I just bought a unit with serial number: 708............ which is August 2007.

This way you can make sure you get the latest manufacturing date from the store you visit, most stores don't know thru their system what serial numbers they have in stock, they will need to go out back to their warehouse and actually read the label on the box. Some of them will tell you they can't because they would have to open the box, not true, the serial number is also on a large white sticker on the exterior of the box.

Happy TV hunting.

Oh, and as I didn't read all 15 pages this info may have already been posted, if it has consider this a reminder.)
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post #427 of 1454
10/7/07 at 8:50am
Is anyone having problems with the June model?

I'm experiencing some ghosting on darker scenes. For example I have DirecTV so when the channel banner goes away its shadow will be on the screen for 5-10 seconds then it disappears.

This is my 2nd 42LB5D, my first one was an August model and didn't experience any picture problems at all, but the volume quit working so I returned it.

Is this "ghosting" problem natural or should I return it for a different build date?
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post #428 of 1454
10/7/07 at 9:25am
I have one with a july manufacturing date and i have some clouding in the corners when the screen is black(basically when i'm switching channels). Anybody else have this?
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post #429 of 1454
10/8/07 at 5:29am
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Originally Posted by slick2211 View Post

I have one with a july manufacturing date and i have some clouding in the corners when the screen is black(basically when i'm switching channels). Anybody else have this?

Mine has it just a little bit in the corners. Nothing bad enough to take it back.
My build date is Aug 2007. I got a 3 year extended warrenty so I'm not too concerned about it. Picture still looks excellent.
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post #430 of 1454
10/8/07 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted by email4walker View Post

Mine has it just a little bit in the corners. Nothing bad enough to take it back.
My build date is Aug 2007. I got a 3 year extended warrenty so I'm not too concerned about it. Picture still looks excellent.

yeah i have the 3 year warranty from CC. i guess if it gets worse i'll just bring it back.
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post #431 of 1454
10/8/07 at 8:46am
If you check around this website(not this fourm we are in) there is some sharp, toshiba's and sony LCDs with really bad clouding and they show you the examples. Compared to thiers, trust me, our clouding is not bad at all. The bad thing for those tvs is it is not just a isolated incident. It happens a lot, thats why I choose the LG. All LCD brands have some type of problem. But to me, LGs had the least and problems it does have I could live with.
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post #432 of 1454
10/8/07 at 9:16am
Is anyone using those settings they got from Circuit City?? Hows the picture? I'm setting mine up today....and dont want to use settings that are bad for the TV.
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post #433 of 1454
10/8/07 at 1:56pm
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Is anyone using those settings they got from Circuit City?? Hows the picture? I'm setting mine up today....and dont want to use settings that are bad for the TV.

Looks pretty good to me. Best Ive been able to get color wise. As long as your back light isn't cranked all the way up I wouldn't see why any settings would degrade your TV.
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post #434 of 1454
10/8/07 at 2:10pm
Hey all. Where are the CC settings people are talking about?

Also, I experience a 1 or 2 second period where audio cuts out (i'm using the digital optical output to my reciever) every now and then. It hasn't happened at all today, but yesterday it happened about 10 times. Is this anything to get worked up over?

I had an aquos and a vizio. The vizio had terrible clouding and the sharp had banding. This LG is excellent. Very very minor clouding (hardly noticable) and the audio cut out now and then. I'm thinking of picking up the BBY 4 year service plan.
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post #435 of 1454
10/8/07 at 9:34pm
Just picked up a 47LB5D and it's everything I could have asked for in a 1080p LCD.

HD-DVD movies are rockin on it.
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post #436 of 1454
10/9/07 at 8:07am
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Originally Posted by Geetar View Post

Hey all. Where are the CC settings people are talking about?

Also, I experience a 1 or 2 second period where audio cuts out (i'm using the digital optical output to my reciever) every now and then. It hasn't happened at all today, but yesterday it happened about 10 times. Is this anything to get worked up over?

I had an aquos and a vizio. The vizio had terrible clouding and the sharp had banding. This LG is excellent. Very very minor clouding (hardly noticable) and the audio cut out now and then. I'm thinking of picking up the BBY 4 year service plan.

Hey everyone, If you are watching a digital (HD) show on tv, it is normal for the sound to cut for a second or two. The problem is a little bit on the tv(any HD tv) and a little bit is on the signal(phyiscal cables in the ground and on the poles). It takes a milli second for the tv to get the signal and milli seconds for the tv to process/seperate the signal. If you add in a surround processor, then it takes a mill second longer. I had a Samsung HD stand alone receiver in the past and it did the same thing. Technology is a lot better now but there is still a very small lag in the HD signal vs regular cable/digital signal. I remember about 2 years ago if you were watching the same show on two different tvs, one HD and the other regular cable, there was a 5-10 sec delay and the whole show (picture and sound) would cut in and out or just freeze up every now and then(with over the air signal). Proof of this whole thing: If your watching a HD DVD player you problaly don't have any problems with sound at all, and the signal is completely digital just like a HD tv show.

Of couse, I'm only talking about this situation. If your tv is losing sound watching regular tv, then something IS wrong.

Geetar, I did the same thing. I bought my tv and a week later I went back and bought the 3 year service plan. It was expensive($299.00 Yikes!), but I have to admit, you can't put a price tag on the "peace of mine" you will feel knowing that this almost $2000 tv is covered if anything goes wrong.
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post #437 of 1454
10/9/07 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by Geetar View Post

Hey all. Where are the CC settings people are talking about?

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Originally Posted by nickgw View Post

I was surprised after reading all posts here not to find this...
I had a great guy help me at CC. He 'secretly' passed this info on to me. He told me that they just had a LG rep come in and show them this trick. There is another menu you can access. Hold the menu button down until the password screen appears. Then punch in 8741 as the password. Now you have access to "Expert mode". This will allow you to tune the following parameters:
  1. Contrast
  2. Brightness
  3. Color
  4. Tint
  5. Sharpness
  6. R Gain
  7. G Gain
  8. B Gain
  9. R Offset
  10. G Offset
  11. B Offset
There is also a smaller list of adjustments for:
  1. H Position
  2. V Position
  3. H Size
  4. V Size
If you mess these settings up, there is a selection for the default mode.

This will give you two "Expert Mode" settings (Expert Mode 1 and Expert Mode 2) that will now show up in your picture settings. You can select the input that you want to apply these settings to.

The settings I was given were set up by the LG rep. Your tastes may differ.
They are as follows:
  1. 100
  2. 40
  3. 65
  4. 0
  5. 75
  6. 185
  7. 165
  8. 195
  9. 64
  10. 64
  11. 72
The Pos/Size Adjust settings are left at 0.

Let me know what you think.

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post #438 of 1454
10/10/07 at 4:36am
This morning I was met with the horror of my 42LB5D turning on, and then beginning to power cycle on and off quickly. It then turned itself of and left a strong smoke of ozone/smoke. I have a warranty on it so hopefully it will be taken care of, but has anyone else had this issue?

It's about 3-4 months old.
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post #439 of 1454
10/10/07 at 5:06am
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Originally Posted by bartman0531 View Post

Looks pretty good to me. Best Ive been able to get color wise. As long as your back light isn't cranked all the way up I wouldn't see why any settings would degrade your TV.

At what setting does everyone suggest i should set my back light up?
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post #440 of 1454
10/10/07 at 5:46am
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Originally Posted by email4walker View Post

Hey everyone, If you are watching a digital (HD) show on tv, it is normal for the sound to cut for a second or two. The problem is a little bit on the tv(any HD tv) and a little bit is on the signal(phyiscal cables in the ground and on the poles). It takes a milli second for the tv to get the signal and milli seconds for the tv to process/seperate the signal. If you add in a surround processor, then it takes a mill second longer. I had a Samsung HD stand alone receiver in the past and it did the same thing. Technology is a lot better now but there is still a very small lag in the HD signal vs regular cable/digital signal. I remember about 2 years ago if you were watching the same show on two different tvs, one HD and the other regular cable, there was a 5-10 sec delay and the whole show (picture and sound) would cut in and out or just freeze up every now and then(with over the air signal). Proof of this whole thing: If your watching a HD DVD player you problaly don't have any problems with sound at all, and the signal is completely digital just like a HD tv show.

Of couse, I'm only talking about this situation. If your tv is losing sound watching regular tv, then something IS wrong.

Geetar, I did the same thing. I bought my tv and a week later I went back and bought the 3 year service plan. It was expensive($299.00 Yikes!), but I have to admit, you can't put a price tag on the "peace of mine" you will feel knowing that this almost $2000 tv is covered if anything goes wrong.

Thanks for the input. You are dead on too, about getting the service plan and having peace of mind... there are no worries if the TV decides to crap out one day. I won't be bothered by the occassional sound cut out then...
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post #441 of 1454
10/10/07 at 7:17am
I just recently picked up an LG 42LB5D Television and I LOVE IT!!!!! I recently purchased my first home and this was quite the housewarming gift to myself. I was able to attach it to my digital cable box and get a great picture and a great DD 5.1 signal to my audio receiver. This is all through the HDMI cable and the digital coaxial audio out cable from the TV. (I have the TV speakers set to "Off"). It's nice because when watching an HD feed that has a 5.1 signal it outputs the signal to the audio system, while it outputs a normal 2.0 signal for regular TV broadcasts.

Where I am having a problem, however, is passing through a DTS signal. I saw many people ask this question here in this thread, but nobody seemed to have gotten a response. Basically, if I have my Pioneer DV400 DVD player connected to the TV via the HDMI cable, the TV refuses to pass through any DTS signal. It is automatically being downconverted to a crappy PCM signal. I know that the TV can pass through a Dolby Digital signal because it does that all the time with my digital cable box and the signal is a discrete 5.1 channels. With the DVD player, however, it just can't seem to output the DTS signal. Is this a fault of the TV that it is not able to simply pass through the pure digital signal from the HDMI feed?

I can avoid this problem by connecting the DVD Player to the audio system using a digital coax cable and telling the player to not pass audio through HDMI, but I'd like to reduce this down to just the HDMI cable so that I don't have to change the input on my audio receiver every time I want to watch a movie. (The home theater system is a fairly inexpensive Midiland S4 8200 v. 2.0 system that I used to use for my computer, but since I needed to cut some costs I decided to use it as my home theater setup since it decodes DTS and DD while connecting with regular speaker cable).

Oh yeah, I LOVE MY TV!!!!!!!
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post #442 of 1454
10/10/07 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by Jdurg View Post

I just recently picked up an LG 42LB5D Television and I LOVE IT!!!!! I recently purchased my first home and this was quite the housewarming gift to myself. I was able to attach it to my digital cable box and get a great picture and a great DD 5.1 signal to my audio receiver. This is all through the HDMI cable and the digital coaxial audio out cable from the TV. (I have the TV speakers set to "Off"). It's nice because when watching an HD feed that has a 5.1 signal it outputs the signal to the audio system, while it outputs a normal 2.0 signal for regular TV broadcasts.

Where I am having a problem, however, is passing through a DTS signal. I saw many people ask this question here in this thread, but nobody seemed to have gotten a response. Basically, if I have my Pioneer DV400 DVD player connected to the TV via the HDMI cable, the TV refuses to pass through any DTS signal. It is automatically being downconverted to a crappy PCM signal. I know that the TV can pass through a Dolby Digital signal because it does that all the time with my digital cable box and the signal is a discrete 5.1 channels. With the DVD player, however, it just can't seem to output the DTS signal. Is this a fault of the TV that it is not able to simply pass through the pure digital signal from the HDMI feed?

I can avoid this problem by connecting the DVD Player to the audio system using a digital coax cable and telling the player to not pass audio through HDMI, but I'd like to reduce this down to just the HDMI cable so that I don't have to change the input on my audio receiver every time I want to watch a movie. (The home theater system is a fairly inexpensive Midiland S4 8200 v. 2.0 system that I used to use for my computer, but since I needed to cut some costs I decided to use it as my home theater setup since it decodes DTS and DD while connecting with regular speaker cable).

Oh yeah, I LOVE MY TV!!!!!!!

Just wondering, can your receiver take the HDMI first from the cable box and then go to the tv so everything is HDMI? With this set up, your receiver will do all the signal switching and not the tv. I guess the more important question is will you receiver pull a digital sound out of the HDMI cable. Some receivers will and some won't.(mine dosen't, but I don't mind switching the tv and the receiver. It would be pretty cool if I didn't have to...)
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post #443 of 1454
10/10/07 at 4:17pm
Unfortunately, this receiver was somewhat intended to be a computer speaker setup so it does not have any HDMI inputs or outputs. Only analog 5.1 inputs, two coaxial digital inputs, one (sadly broken) optical input, and the standard analog stereo inputs. I can live with having the audio coming through yet another cable, but it would be nice if the set could passthrough the DTS like it can the DD.
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post #444 of 1454
10/10/07 at 4:26pm
Other than a professional calibration (which is as close to objective as you can get), picture preferences can vary based on room lighting/color and individual taste. I've had this set for several weeks and have settled on some numbers that I really enjoy. I think they're realistic without being oversaturated or oversharp (noisy). I especially enjoy watching a good HD broadcast, such as ESPN HD Sportscenter. Unbelievable picture!

HDMI (Cox Cable, Sci Atl 8300HD):
User1
90 Contrast
40 Brightness
45 Color
40 Sharpness
0 Tint
50 Backlight
Color Temp = medium
XD = manual, off, off, on
Black Level = high

Component1 (Progressive Scan DVD):
User1
85 Contrast
40 Brightness
50 Color
35 Sharpness
0 Tint
33 Backlight
Color Temp = medium
XD = manual, off, off, on
Cinema Mode = on

Cheers!
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post #445 of 1454
10/11/07 at 11:42am
OK all, I finally set my TV up. It has a Manufacture date of August 2007. I set up the picture settings from the CC rep above and they look GREAT.

However, There is not 11 options in that expert menu, but 12. The 12th option is Back light level. I currently have that set for 50 but if I should decrease or increase that, please let me know.


My only issue with this TV so far is... Clouding. I have clouding on the bottom left corner of the screen. Its enough that when watching a Blu ray movie it actually makes the black framing bars lighter in color in that area of the screen.

Its something I can I can live with, but since I payed close to 1700 for this TV and i have the extended Warrenty, I might as well get one that is new and good.

Best Buy is apparently going to send someone out to look at it in a few days since my 30 days are up, and if they can't fix it, which I'm positive they can't just fix clouding... then I get my new TV.
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post #446 of 1454
10/11/07 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by CKocher View Post

OK all, I finally set my TV up. It has a Manufacture date of August 2007. I set up the picture settings from the CC rep above and they look GREAT.

However, There is not 11 options in that expert menu, but 12. The 12th option is Back light level. I currently have that set for 50 but if I should decrease or increase that, please let me know.


My only issue with this TV so far is... Clouding. I have clouding on the bottom left corner of the screen. Its enough that when watching a Blu ray movie it actually makes the black framing bars lighter in color in that area of the screen.

Its something I can I can live with, but since I payed close to 1700 for this TV and i have the extended Warrenty, I might as well get one that is new and good.

Best Buy is apparently going to send someone out to look at it in a few days since my 30 days are up, and if they can't fix it, which I'm positive they can't just fix clouding... then I get my new TV.

Yea, the left half of my screen has inconsistent backlight... seems like a little bleeding or clouding. I may exchange it since I bought it last week. But I spent about the same amount as you at BBY, so I would definatley like it to be as perfect as possible... let us know if your next set is better.
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post #447 of 1454
10/11/07 at 1:14pm
JD,

I had and have the same issue. I called LG; they claim it only passes dolby digital. In other threads I posted on the matter, apparently even that is an unusual attribute. I ended up hooking up a few direct digital connects to my receiver that I use if there is any DTS content. So far, it hasn't been much of an issue.
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post #448 of 1454
10/11/07 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by Myrthin View Post

JD,

I had and have the same issue. I called LG; they claim it only passes dolby digital. In other threads I posted on the matter, apparently even that is an unusual attribute. I ended up hooking up a few direct digital connects to my receiver that I use if there is any DTS content. So far, it hasn't been much of an issue.

Yeah, it's not some huge "Oh my God I hate this TV now" type of thing, but it would have been nice if it could pass through the DTS signal. Perhaps they'll think about doing a Firmware upgrade and just have it pass the raw signal through without doing any conversion on it. For now, having the other cable in there just means a few more buttons to press on my receiver. (Though I could just get myself an actual surround sound system and not have to worry about that at all. It's just that right now I have to go by what the budget allows. )
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post #449 of 1454
10/11/07 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by CKocher View Post

OK all, I finally set my TV up. It has a Manufacture date of August 2007. I set up the picture settings from the CC rep above and they look GREAT.

However, There is not 11 options in that expert menu, but 12. The 12th option is Back light level. I currently have that set for 50 but if I should decrease or increase that, please let me know.


My only issue with this TV so far is... Clouding. I have clouding on the bottom left corner of the screen. Its enough that when watching a Blu ray movie it actually makes the black framing bars lighter in color in that area of the screen.

Its something I can I can live with, but since I payed close to 1700 for this TV and i have the extended Warrenty, I might as well get one that is new and good.

Best Buy is apparently going to send someone out to look at it in a few days since my 30 days are up, and if they can't fix it, which I'm positive they can't just fix clouding... then I get my new TV.

Did your clouding start out slowly and got worse, or did one you turned on the tv one day and there was the clouding?
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post #450 of 1454
10/12/07 at 4:43am
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Originally Posted by email4walker View Post

Did your clouding start out slowly and got worse, or did one you turned on the tv one day and there was the clouding?

The clouding starts off very slowly but by the time I turn the movie off, you can really see it.
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