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post #1 of 74
4/14/07 at 7:27pm
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Here is a fast, consistent process to edit and prepare MPEG-2 transport streams (.ts files) to play on the PS3.

Benefits
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* No video conversion; quality is identical to the original broadcast.

* Blu-ray media is not required; DVD is fine as long its capacity is not exceeded.

Caveats
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* Multichannel audio is converted to stereo.

Software Required
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* Windows XP

* VideoReDo Plus V2.5 for removing commercials.
http://www.videoredo.com/ (low cost, free trial)

* MPEG Streamclip for Windows V1.1 for audio conversion.
http://www.squared5.com/ (free)

* QuickTime Alternative 1.78 (MPEG support for Streamclip)
http://www.codecguide.com/download_qt.htm (free)

* GEAR Video 8.2 for burning DVD media.
http://www.gearsoftware.com/ (low cost, free trial)

Tested Configuration
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* PS3 System Software Version 1.60
* Ritek DVD+R DL Media

Process Steps
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1) Edit the original MPEG-2 transport stream (.ts file) with VideoRedo and remove any commercials and/or unwanted content. Save the video as a transport stream.

2) Open the video with MPEG Streamclip and covert it to a TS with MP2 audio. Streamclip will convert the AC3 3/2, 48 kHz, 384 kbps audio stream found in domestic ATSC transport streams to a Stereo, 48 kHz, 384 kbps, MPEG Layer 2 audio stream suitable for the PS3.

3) Rename the file extension from .ts to .m2t. This is very important. If you skip this step, the PS3 will not display any content. When you try to view the disc contents from the XMB, it will simply report "There are no titles."

4) Burn the .m2t file to a DVD with GEAR Video. Create a pure UDF 2.01 disc. You do not need to create any special folders, just place the .m2t file in the top level directory. My files have averaged approximately 4.6GB for a one hour program. Slightly too large for a single layer DVD.

If you view the file information from the XMB, it will display the correct file size, length, resolution, video codec and audio codec.

Due to what I consider to be a bug, the PS3 will only allow you to fast forward or rewind a very small portion of the program. Other than that, your files will play perfectly.

Enjoy!
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post #2 of 74
4/14/07 at 11:24pm
:0 Sounds...difficult.
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post #3 of 74
4/15/07 at 12:38am
Thanks! This info will definitely come in handy.
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post #4 of 74
4/15/07 at 5:24am
I've not tried this or any other methods of demuxing .TS files.

But I would advise against converting your video files and saving the audio from AC3 5.1 to 2.0. You never know when a future firmware will allow full AC3 capability with .TS or .PS files. Converting it now without backup would ruin the original file forever.


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post #5 of 74
4/15/07 at 11:48am
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Originally Posted by WriteSimple View Post

I've not tried this or any other methods of demuxing .TS files.

But I would advise against converting your video files and saving the audio from AC3 5.1 to 2.0. You never know when a future firmware will allow full AC3 capability with .TS or .PS files. Converting it now without backup would ruin the original file forever.


fuad

That's why you always store a backup of the original. I burn a copy for my PS3 and throw it away after I view it.
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post #6 of 74
4/15/07 at 1:33pm
I don't know man that sounds too complicated, here's how I do it.

You'll need HDTV2MPEG and PROJECTX.

1. Edit commercial with HDTV2MPEG then process the stream to .ts file (This retains the original quality and is fast, 7GB file takes less than 2 minutes)

2. Open the edited .TS file with ProjectX and click on the PREPARE button. Then choose the M2P format and click PROCESS. (This takes a couple of minutes very fast)

3. Rename the output file with .MPG extension and you're done. Ready for the PS3.

Seems to work everytime and original video quality is retained. I'm not sure about multi-channel sound though, but the sound quality is just like the original.

P.S. for those of you using the Hauppauge capture cards either USB or PCI that output a protected .MPG file. Run the protected capture file through ProjectX but instead of M2P format choose .TS. This will give you a regular TS stream file and will allow you to edit the commercials in HDTV2MPEG.

BTW both HDTV2MPEG and ProjectX are free and can be downloaded from:

HDTV2MPEG
PROJECTX

I haven't tried any 1080i files but they should work just the same.
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post #7 of 74
4/15/07 at 1:42pm
TwinTurboZX,

Do these files play with firmware 1.6. All my 1080i files quit playing since I upgraded though the 720p ones still play. Thanks,
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post #8 of 74
4/15/07 at 1:57pm
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Originally Posted by has123 View Post

TwinTurboZX,

Do these files play with firmware 1.6. All my 1080i files quit playing since I upgraded though the 720p ones still play. Thanks,

Sorry I haven't tried any 1080i captures only 720P captures of 24 from FOX.
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post #9 of 74
4/15/07 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by has123 View Post

TwinTurboZX,

Do these files play with firmware 1.6. All my 1080i files quit playing since I upgraded though the 720p ones still play. Thanks,

Yes, I tried a 1080i program and it worked fine.
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post #10 of 74
4/16/07 at 2:06am
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX View Post


P.S. for those of you using the Hauppauge capture cards either USB or PCI that output a protected .MPG file. Run the protected capture file through ProjectX but instead of M2P format choose .TS. This will give you a regular TS stream file and will allow you to edit the commercials in HDTV2MPEG.

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help....
Can I just use ProjectX to edit?
I can't get HDTV2MPEG to work. Just a blank screen .
And can these be transferred directly to the Ps3 harddrive thorough redkawa or is this better with a DVD? thanks
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post #11 of 74
4/16/07 at 2:06am
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX View Post


P.S. for those of you using the Hauppauge capture cards either USB or PCI that output a protected .MPG file. Run the protected capture file through ProjectX but instead of M2P format choose .TS. This will give you a regular TS stream file and will allow you to edit the commercials in HDTV2MPEG.

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help....
Can I just use ProjectX to edit?
I can't get HDTV2MPEG to work. Just a blank screen .
And can these be transferred directly to the Ps3 harddrive thorough redkawa or is this better with a DVD? thanks
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post #12 of 74
4/16/07 at 2:08am
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX View Post


P.S. for those of you using the Hauppauge capture cards either USB or PCI that output a protected .MPG file. Run the protected capture file through ProjectX but instead of M2P format choose .TS. This will give you a regular TS stream file and will allow you to edit the commercials in HDTV2MPEG.

.

help....
Can I just use ProjectX to edit?
I can't get HDTV2MPEG to work. Just a blank screen .
And can these be transferred directly to the Ps3 harddrive thorough redkawa or is this better with a DVD? thanks
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post #13 of 74
4/16/07 at 7:05am
this is the method I've been using since getting my PS3 last December, works everytime.


Mpeg2 TS to Mpeg 2 mpeg file
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Download HDTVtoMPEG2 latest version from here
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~balaz...EG2/index.html

1. Open HDTVtoMPEG2
2. Click Add and select file(s).
3. Set Type to Mpeg2
4. Set Max Size to 4000MB
5. Select Ouput Path by clicking button under MB
6. Click Convert.



Check for HDTV 1088, this will cause an error when loading on the PS3, better to check.
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Download HDPatch from here
www.wallace3d.co.uk/miscstuff/HDPatch_0_3_01.zip

1. Load HDPatch
2. Load Input File.
3. If Size says 1920 x 1088 then Choose Preset > Fix1088 from Top Menu.
4. Click Patch Stream to fix headers.


Sometimes the file you now have will play on the PS3, but I suggest doing a quick Transcode just in case.

The reason for the transcode is to ensure compatibility with the PS3,
especially if the file has AC3 audio, transcode this to an MPEG PS file and you will get 2.0 sound, if you don't do this
you will not get any sound from the AC3 audio track.

The PS3 doesn't seem to play AC3 form any user created video clips.

Transcode Tutorial
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VLC Player is available here:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

1. Open VLC Media Player.
2. Choose File > Wizard.
3. Select Transcode/ Save to file and Click Next
4. Click Choose and then Click Browse to select Input File, Click OK then Click Next
4. Click Next to skip Video & Audio re-encode, not required here.
5. Set Output to Format - MPEG TS or (MPEG PS for AC3 Audio) and Click Next
6. Click Choose and Set Output Filename & Folder and click Save.
7. Click Finish to start Transcode, this should be quick.

Note: AC3 Audio will transcode but get downgraded on playback on PS3 to 2 channel.
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post #14 of 74
4/16/07 at 8:13am
Where do you guys get all this HD media from? DVR?
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post #15 of 74
4/16/07 at 8:25am
Has anyone gotten this to work with HD Lite(1280x1080)? I've been fighting this for 3 weeks now. All I ever get is "corrupted file".
Thanks
Dug
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post #16 of 74
4/16/07 at 9:01am
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Originally Posted by Massiso View Post

Where do you guys get all this HD media from? DVR?

Some sources I use:

Firewire output from Motorola cable box (does not have to be a DVR).
Over the air capture card (I have a MyHD card).
Firewire output from DVHS deck.

I used VideoLan to change the encapsulation of files to "mpeg2 ps". This was very easy and only 1 step but they no longer play since the new firmware 1.6

Brian
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post #17 of 74
4/16/07 at 7:10pm
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Originally Posted by GoBlu View Post

help....
Can I just use ProjectX to edit?
I can't get HDTV2MPEG to work. Just a blank screen .
And can these be transferred directly to the Ps3 harddrive thorough redkawa or is this better with a DVD? thanks

You know I haven't used PROJECTX for editing, because to me HDTV2MPEG seems really simple and quick. Just grab projectx and mess around with it, it's free. If you already haven't you just need to install the Java Runtime Environment from Sun.com so you can run projectx.

As far as transfering to the PS3 that is up to you. I use the Abyss Webserver but it was really difficult to setup. You can give it a try but I don't even know how I got it to finally work, you just have to mess around with it. Also remember that you can't put files greater than 4GB on the PS3 hard drive so I usually split my hour long shows into 2 parts with ProjectX.
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post #18 of 74
4/17/07 at 12:05am
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX View Post

You know I haven't used PROJECTX for editing, because to me HDTV2MPEG seems really simple and quick. Just grab projectx and mess around with it, it's free. If you already haven't you just need to install the Java Runtime Environment from Sun.com so you can run projectx.

As far as transfering to the PS3 that is up to you. I use the Abyss Webserver but it was really difficult to setup. You can give it a try but I don't even know how I got it to finally work, you just have to mess around with it. Also remember that you can't put files greater than 4GB on the PS3 hard drive so I usually split my hour long shows into 2 parts with ProjectX.

Why split files and transfer them to the hard drive when you can just play transport streams from a dual layer DVD?
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post #19 of 74
4/17/07 at 2:46am
I've tried HDTV2MPEG for a few files. One file worked while the rest didn't. It's not a very reliable program because it doesn't react well to edits. The converted files may work on the PC but not on the PS3.


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post #20 of 74
4/17/07 at 4:18am
CanopusProcoder2 does all this the best. Just rename the inputfile to .mpg or m2p and follow the wizard. It splits the file to 4gb-parts if you want to.
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post #21 of 74
4/18/07 at 8:07am
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Originally Posted by has123 View Post

TwinTurboZX,

Do these files play with firmware 1.6. All my 1080i files quit playing since I upgraded though the 720p ones still play. Thanks,


I'm having the same problem on my PS3 since updating to 1.6. My 720p 24 episodes play just fine, but after reading your post, I went back to try the 1080i Smallville episodes that used to work just fine and they stop playing in less than a minute. I tried running clips off the HDD and a DVD and they both failed in less than a minute. I'm using HDMI for video, optical for audio and have the XMB set to 480p/720p/1080i. For anyone else that has gotten 1080i MPEG 2 files (with AC3 soundtracks) to work on the PS3 with 1.6 firmware, could you share your PS3 configuration.
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post #22 of 74
4/18/07 at 9:31am
Title should add 'for PC users only'.
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post #23 of 74
4/18/07 at 8:07pm
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Originally Posted by HomeTheaterFAN View Post

I'm having the same problem on my PS3 since updating to 1.6. My 720p 24 episodes play just fine, but after reading your post, I went back to try the 1080i Smallville episodes that used to work just fine and they stop playing in less than a minute. I tried running clips off the HDD and a DVD and they both failed in less than a minute. I'm using HDMI for video, optical for audio and have the XMB set to 480p/720p/1080i. For anyone else that has gotten 1080i MPEG 2 files (with AC3 soundtracks) to work on the PS3 with 1.6 firmware, could you share your PS3 configuration.

Try updating to firmware 1.7 and see if that fixes the 1080i problem.
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post #24 of 74
4/19/07 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX View Post

Try updating to firmware 1.7 and see if that fixes the 1080i problem.

I still have problems with 1.7. I'm wondering if there are problems with 1920x1080i MPEG 2 PS files. I always use VLC to change MPEG 2 TS files to MPEG 2 PS files so that the AC3 audio would work. For those that didn't have problems with 1920x1080i MPEG 2 files on FW 1.6, I wonder if they used MPEG 2 PS files with AC3 audio.
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post #25 of 74
1/7/08 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by ptelles View Post

Why split files and transfer them to the hard drive when you can just play transport streams from a dual layer DVD?

PS3 won't play any of my .ts files. I don't think it can.
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post #26 of 74
1/8/08 at 6:02am
I know it's an old thread but here my method and $.02

1) I capture OTA HD content to a DVR-MS container direct (5.1 AC3 audio and no further video compression)
1.1) Optionally I can edit out commercial content with DVRedit.
2) Take the DVR-MS file through DVRMStoolbox and transcode it to MPEG2 using AVIVO (about a minute per hour of video)
2.1) Optionally I can recode the MPEG2 into AVC/AAC to cut down on space.


That's it. I can stream it through WMP11 or put it on a UDF DVD and play it directly on the PS3. This is, of course, with the new 2.1 system software.
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post #27 of 74
1/8/08 at 6:10am
I'd like to transfer all my HD recorded shows from my notebook onto my PS3.

What program do you guys recommend for converting DVR-MS Files Created by Media Center into something the PS3 can read?
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post #28 of 74
1/8/08 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by Rieper View Post

I'd like to transfer all my HD recorded shows from my notebook onto my PS3.

What program do you guys recommend for converting DVR-MS Files Created by Media Center into something the PS3 can read?

Lol...did you read my post just one above yours?

It works like a champ! I have a wired network and use WMP11 to stream the MPEG2/AC3 files to the PS3. And if you need to shrink them you can use Virtualdub or any other conversion software but I use Nero Recode to compress it to AVC/AAC MPEG4 streams. My computer (Athlon64x2-6000+, x1950PRO, 2GB DDR2-800 in dual channel, SATA-3.0GB, etc) chokes a little when playing the AVC content but the PS3 handles it without breaking a sweat.
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post #29 of 74
1/9/08 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by fcorona76 View Post

Lol...did you read my post just one above yours?

It works like a champ! I have a wired network and use WMP11 to stream the MPEG2/AC3 files to the PS3. And if you need to shrink them you can use Virtualdub or any other conversion software but I use Nero Recode to compress it to AVC/AAC MPEG4 streams. My computer (Athlon64x2-6000+, x1950PRO, 2GB DDR2-800 in dual channel, SATA-3.0GB, etc) chokes a little when playing the AVC content but the PS3 handles it without breaking a sweat.

Hi, I want to try your method, but my MyHD card records to .tp files. How can I change a .tp or .ts transport stream file to a .dvr-ms file for use with DVREdit?

EDIT:

I found a program called TSConverter, and used it to transcode the TS to DVR-MS. However, DVREdit gives me all sorts of errors when trying to load that new DVR-MS file ("failed to add pToTS filter to graph" is one of them). Any ideas on how I can make this work? I am on Windows XP SP2 by the way.

Also, TSConverter seems to have some very quick error message run across the status section, stating something about an error downloading a codec for the TS file. What's up with that?


One other note... you mentioned above to "Take the DVR-MS file through DVREdit and transcode it to MPEG2 using AVIVO (about a minute per hour of video)". However, when I open a DVR-Ms file in DVREdit, and then select Tools>DVR to MPG, it tells me "Not Yet Implemented". What does that mean?
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post #30 of 74
1/10/08 at 6:09am
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Originally Posted by hockey2112 View Post

Hi, I want to try your method, but my MyHD card records to .tp files. How can I change a .tp or .ts transport stream file to a .dvr-ms file for use with DVREdit?

EDIT:

I found a program called TSConverter, and used it to transcode the TS to DVR-MS. However, DVREdit gives me all sorts of errors when trying to load that new DVR-MS file ("failed to add pToTS filter to graph" is one of them). Any ideas on how I can make this work? I am on Windows XP SP2 by the way.

Also, TSConverter seems to have some very quick error message run across the status section, stating something about an error downloading a codec for the TS file. What's up with that?


One other note... you mentioned above to "Take the DVR-MS file through DVREdit and transcode it to MPEG2 using AVIVO (about a minute per hour of video)". However, when I open a DVR-Ms file in DVREdit, and then select Tools>DVR to MPG, it tells me "Not Yet Implemented". What does that mean?

That was a typo on my part. DVRedit is used for cutting commercials where I need to use DVRMStoolbox to convert it. DVRMStoolbox is a command line utility but it also comes with a GUI called DVRMStoMPEG and if you have the ATI AVIVO converter installed on your machine it will allow you to quickly trascode your DVRMS to MPEG using AVIVO. Without AVIVO it takes hours and not minutes.

DVRMStoolbox
http://babgvant.com/files/folders/dv...x/default.aspx

Read up on this to get AVIVO installed
http://www.rage3d.com/board/archive/...-33859276.html

You may just be better off trying to find a good way to transcode directly to MPEG instead DVRMS first.
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