Samsung, no longer BD exclusive...

Welcome to last month (when we found out about the player) or last week (when Samsung confirmed it).

That's two who have left the exclusive fold now. Support for all the audio codecs and all BD-J/HDi implementations sounds like the player to finally unify my set up.

If this player had the Reon like their 2nd gen BD player does (left out due to cost, no conspiracy theories please), it'd be my next player for sure.

The Dual format player is old news.

Samsung being quoted that they are open to making an HD-DVD only player is new.

Lol, I remember when I first started posting on AVS. I think it is almost like a rite of passage that you have to get drilled from members when you post an "already discussed at length" topic.

Its surprising that they are addressing the big rumor of "supporting Blu-ray only" with this press release. Noting that at every press event previously, they have never issued a press release that mentions that they will not support HD DVD, only reports that quote an employee from the company praising Blu-ray as a preferred format for consumer.

Its great to have another CE company having the intention to build a HD DVD player.

It is interesting to note that it seems the CE companies from South Korea are more open to various options with LG and Samsung building dual-format players. Maybe they do not have very large vested interests (a lot of patents) in either format, unlike Sony, Panasonic, Philips, Toshiba, etc.

It's already been posted a few times.

It is even more interesting when you realise, that there are no HD DVDs in Korea, unless people there import them. This is strictly for the western market. The few Korean movies on HD DVD are made in Japan (no English subs). I consider this unfortunate, since Korea has a thriving movie biz, that makes some truely excellent flicks as well as excellent DVDs.

J

No need to apologize. It was news for me. I guess some posters would say that I need to continuously browse the thousands of posts so that i don't miss the tidbits from "last month". Someone should post "use the search function" next to further demonstrate how completely lame guys like me and you are and how superior the megaposters of the forum are. lol

The Korean firms do seem more prone to jumping ship don't they? Still I'm not sure it is due to a lack of cooperation. For instance Samsung jointly owns an LCD panel facility with Sony. Of course they are also the official HDTV of the Xbox 360 and the 360 has a Samsung chip or two in it so I guess they have alliances with both sides. I am looking forward to the new Samsung player, but I'll wait and see if they get the bugs worked out. I'm not going into it with high expectations considering their glitchy 1st gen Blu-Ray player.

Toshiba helped design Cell, the CPU of the Sony PS3.

Disney helped design iHD, the interactive layer of HD DVD.

Etc.

If you take a step back and look at the big picture: This really changes nothing.

The precedent is already out there: The LG Dual format player is a complete bust.

Like that player, these dual units will probably appeal to some HD-DVD only folks that want a backdoor way out from Toshiba land to "something better" and yeah, they'll just happen to have some BD support at that point as well.

Certainly this Samsung will probably be alot less buggy than anything Toshiba's put out thus far... and hey, what the heck, you buy a couple of those BD discs that have been eating away at you for a few months, like Casino Royale. See how that works?

There's nothing here for either of these players for someone who's already bought into BD whatsoever. Blu-ray owners already have nice hardware, 90 percent studio support. Very few, if any BD people will even blink at these things.
Just my opinion ofcourse And shared by many BD exclusive people

After that, of course, we come to the fence sitters and the folks that were "allegedly going to carry HD-DVD to the quick finish line" in the form of average joe/Joe Six pack.

^^ This is a mantra you couldn't get away from a year ago and you still hear it today.

It's the kiss of death on any venture out of the gate when you're placing your hopes on Joe Six Pack.

But I digress...

J6P is going to continue to be apathetic and possibly even more confused than they are now. Who wouldn't be?

THD discs, combo players, and two seperate HD formats will simply keep most of those people well into DVD land. Honestly, who can blame them?

How ridiculous is this: Buy a combo player and then buy your combo discs...I guess you flip a coin that night to see which format version you're in the mood to watch?

I don't know guys....it just seems so pointless!
(especially when it's all over one studio)


Samsung and LG both make lots of money in lots of ventures. They can afford to throw these glorified experimental peices out there at relatively minimal loss and risk. If anything, (And IMHO) these combo players are charity life rafts to HD-DVD only supporters. They get to keep all their HD-DVD stuff and they get their foot in the "BD-Door" if you will.

Fox? Disney? Sony Studios? MGM/UA? There's only one way and one place to get all those movies and that's with BD.

So, if anything, these combo players will be a negation and a very slight indirect positive for BD.

Just another perspective to think about.


Curious to see if duo player is the route we'll see other companies like Onkyo, Denon, and Meridian (among others) take. These companies have been doing the universal trick in DVD for years now.


Time will tell...

Hahahah come on man you're killing me.

Just do this for me.

Add up your HD-A1, your Xbox addon your BDP-1000 and your PS3 60GB and tell me how much they cost in total before your "discount"

I'm thinking you paid more for your setup than this unit will cost. Granted you have HD capability in multiple rooms but that's more of a rarity.

I personally only shelled $150 in HDDVD Hardware. The HDA1 was a combined B-Day gift from my Wife/Mother-in-law. (of which they split $415 shipped). I got the HD Add on with the $50 off coupon from Circuit...
So technically I'm into HDDVD $367.and change. since her money is my money and vice versa. But $367 is pretty cheap to get into HDDVD with two players as early in the game as I got in.

I bought my bdp-1000 for $735,
My ps3 was not in my original plan to own.
I got my ps3 because a friend camped for it and was going to sell it on Fleabay
However he never sold anything on Ebay so had no feedback. He was getting no bids. He had paid $756 after tax for it with RFOM and a extra six-axxis so I told him I'd take it for $850 BUT, it would be in payments for the next 3 months. I honestly didn't think he'd do it...but he did. His BB card had no interest for 6 months so he didn't care. I wouldn't have a ps3 had it not been for payment plan.

I also had a DVPNC85 go out on me that was under warranty that helped pay for part of my bdp-1000, that was $150 toward the $735. And then got $130 for my ps2 to help pay the ps3 off.

So I have $1422 in HD optical hardware invested between two hometheatre setups. Divide that by, 2 thats what I have spent.

If I didn't get in that cheap though, I'd never buy into HDDVD for 1 studio...okay 2 with weinstein. so 1.5

The denial is amusing...

best laugh i've had all day

^^


The feeling is mutual.