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Strange NEC XG1100 Problem - Loss of Convergence

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
Hi All,

I have my NEC XG1100 setup to run with my HTPC, which is outputting 1280x960 4:3. I have run the convergence and setup on memory #12, and have copied this to a number of other memories as a "backup". Everything is fine as long as I keep this display resolution from my PC.

However, some applications switch the res, such as games, and my PC sometimes decides for me that I really want to be using 1280x1024 instead. When this happens, the convergence and geometry goes to pot, and I get an "unregistered signal" message on screen. That's fine, I can understand that, but when I switch back to 1280x960, things are not quite right. The red and blue linearities are both off, and bringing up the coarse cross-hair shows that a few points are waaay off on convergence, as though someone has maxxed out the control, but left the adjacent points alone.

So this is where the backups come in handy? Not quite, because the backups are afflicted in exactly the way, every one of them. What's even stranger, is that if I go in and modify the backups slightly, so that each one must be unique, and not just a reference to the original, they are still changed in the same way. Power cycles don't help, the problems seem to be permanent until re-adjusted out.

Anyone any ideas what might be causing this? I would love to be able to play games, connect more equipment etc, but I daren't chance it at the moment. It takes about an hour to dial things back in again.

Cheers

carpfisher
post #2 of 9
Do a new entry for your 1280x1024 rez and set it up from scratch.
This way, when XG receives a new signal from PC with such rez will fall back to this entry.
Don't force the XG to 1280x960 entry when running a resolution which has totally different timings.
Unless I misunderstand your point, everything seems normal AFAIK.
post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reassurance.

It does sound a little primitive though that I can trash my setup, just by accidentally inputting an unrecognised resolution. My Marquee would keep convergence with absolutely anything that I could throw at it, and I could switch between resolutions to my heart's content.

Is there any way to "lock" the memory settings so that they are protected against this?

Carpfisher
post #4 of 9
No lock. If timings don't match convergence gets messed up.
Like I said before do not force cross resolution. Instead have separate entries set up for each signal and configuration that you might run into.
Everytime you get the unregistered signal, XG is telling you that it cannot recognize the incoming signal hence you get a screwed up pic.
post #5 of 9
Yes there is - save a setting to default for each default block.

That's what default is for. It will be close, not perfect, but close.

But your memory changing issue is not normal - when you go back to the old memory it should be exactly the same as last time. Are you 100% certain the XG is picking up the correct memory entry? Check the names with the info button.

Ditch the backups, they are probably causing your problem..
post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks, I'm beginning to understand this now.

I also have a small issue with startup that I'm confused about. It always fires up on memory #9, but my settings are on #12. I have set the option to startup on "last" rather then "default", thinking that this would startup on the last memory that I used.

Does the XG use the numerically first memory that it finds that might fit the input resolution? Or how can I get it to always use #12?
post #7 of 9
I would delete all memory locations that are labelled that are not being used. IT could be that you have two memory locations entered that are very close to one another so it's jumping to the wrong one.
post #8 of 9
Yes, it works it's way down the list.

If #9 is close enough, it will use it before #12, unless you have the "last" setting used.

I would use #1. And only #1 until you figure it out.
post #9 of 9
Before you start to delete things you might be deleting the default even if not used. This can be holding the white balance information memory if it was calibrated. Unless your sure move them back in the entry list for now.

Go to adjust/option/default data info and see what freq is stored to default for that block.
Also see if you have six blocks showing in that menu if you have a version 1 (ending in 0). Doug

Service mode: In the 'Info' menu make sure source lock is turned off. In the settings menu turn off 'auto data store' if its on.

HTPC: If your running a higher refresh rate (Hz) this will alter the kHz freq. If you hit the 'Info' button it will show this info along with sync polarity. This can push you into another 'block'
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