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post #3571 of 3843
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So, as i understand, CPU ID update with cbrom was failed?
post #3572 of 3843
Correct me please If I write something wrong, because I'm really don't know English, I never learn it smile.gif
I know only Assembler, same as Russian.

CPU microcode's that I discover in dumped BIOS (FULL CPU support list for VGX-XL3 based on P5BW-MB). 0F25h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D23E0        0F25h           M0                      SL7RR (Intel Pentium 4 3.4 GHz)
                0F25h           M0                      SL7RT (Intel Pentium 4 3.467 GHz)
                0F25h           M0                      SL7NF (Intel Pentium 4 3.467 GHz)
                0F25h           M0                      SL7GC (Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz)
                0F25h           M0                      SL7GD (Intel Pentium 4 3.4 GHz)
0F34h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D2BE0        0F34h           D0                      SL82X (Intel Pentium 4 530J)
                0F34h           D0                      SL833 (Intel Pentium 4 550J)
                0F34h           D0                      SL82V (Intel Pentium 4 521)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7KL (Intel Pentium 4 540)
                0F34h           E0                      SL82Y (Intel Pentium 4 3 GHz)
                0F34h           E0                      SL836 (Intel Pentium 4 3.6 GHz)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7J4 (Intel Pentium 4 510)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7J9 (Intel Pentium 4 560)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7KM (Intel Pentium 4 550)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7J7 (Intel Pentium 4 540)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7KK (Intel Pentium 4 530)
                0F34h           D0                      SL82W (Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7J6 (Intel Pentium 4 530)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7KN (Intel Pentium 4 560)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7J8 (Intel Pentium 4 550)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7L9 (Intel Pentium 4 560)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7LA (Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7J5 (Intel Pentium 4 520)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7YU (Intel Pentium 4 505)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7KJ (Intel Pentium 4 520)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7KH (Intel Pentium 4 510)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7L8 (Intel Pentium 4 3.4 GHz)
                0F34h           D0                      SL7YV (Intel Pentium 4 515)
0F41h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D47E0        0F41h           E0                      SL7PU (Intel Pentium 4 530J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL84Y (Intel Pentium 4 570J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8HX (Intel Pentium 4 521)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8HZ (Intel Pentium 4 531)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8J9 (Intel Pentium 4 516)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TW (Intel Celeron D 336)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8JA (Intel Pentium 4 519K)
                0F41h           E0                      SL82U (Intel Pentium 4 570J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7PY (Intel Pentium 4 550J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL82Z (Intel Pentium 4 540J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7PT (Intel Pentium 4 520J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TM (Intel Celeron D 330J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TN (Intel Celeron D 335J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TP (Intel Celeron D 340J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL84X (Intel Pentium 4 560J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7LV (Intel Celeron D 345)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TX (Intel Celeron D 341)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7VU (Intel Celeron D 340)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8J2 (Intel Pentium 4 541)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TV (Intel Celeron D 331)
                0F41h           E0                      SL835 (Intel Pentium 4 3.4 GHz)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TL (Intel Celeron D 325J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL87L (Intel Pentium 4 519J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7PW (Intel Pentium 4 540J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7VR (Intel Celeron D 325J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8U5 (Intel Pentium 4 511)
                0F41h           E0                      SL85U (Intel Pentium 4 505J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7VS (Intel Celeron D 330J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7PX (Intel Pentium 4 540)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7PR (Intel Pentium 4 520J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8J6 (Intel Pentium 4 561)
                0F41h           E0                      SL82X (Intel Pentium 4 530J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TZ (Intel Celeron D 351)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8J7 (Intel Pentium 4 571)
                0F41h           E0                      SL85V (Intel Pentium 4 515J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7P2 (Intel Pentium 4 571)
                0F41h           D0                      SL833 (Intel Pentium 4 550J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7VT (Intel Celeron D 335J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8J5 (Intel Pentium 4 551)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TY (Intel Celeron D 346)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TU (Intel Celeron D 326)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7VQ (Intel Celeron D 320)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7VV (Intel Celeron D 345J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7PZ (Intel Pentium 4 550)
                0F41h           E0                      SL8J8 (Intel Pentium 4 506)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7NZ (Intel Pentium 4 560)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7TQ (Intel Celeron D 345J)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7ZW (Intel Pentium 4 3.4 GHz)
                0F41h           E0                      SL82V (Intel Pentium 4 521)
                0F41h           E0                      SL832 (Intel Pentium 4 3.2 GHz)
                0F41h           E0                      SL7Q2 (Intel Pentium 4 560J)
0F43h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D5BE0        0F43h           N0                      SL8AB (Intel Pentium 4 620)
                0F43h           N0                      SL7Z8 (Intel Pentium 4 640)
                0F43h           N0                      SL7Z4 (Intel Pentium 4 3.733 GHz)
                0F43h           N0                      SL7Z5 (Intel Pentium 4 660)
                0F43h           N0                      SL7Z3 (Intel Pentium 4 670)
                0F43h           N0                      SL7Z9 (Intel Pentium 4 630)
                0F43h           N0                      SL7Z7 (Intel Pentium 4 650)
0F44h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D63E0        0F44h           A0                      SL88R (Intel Pentium D 840)
                0F44h           A0                      SL88S (Intel Pentium D 830)
                0F44h           A0                      SL8FK (Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 840)
                0F44h           A0                      SL88T (Intel Pentium D 820)
0F47h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D6FE0        0F47h           B0                      SL8CN (Intel Pentium D 830)
                0F47h           B0                      SL8CM (Intel Pentium D 840)
                0F47h           B0                      SL8CP (Intel Pentium D 820)
                0F47h           B0                      SL8ZH (Intel Pentium D 805)
0F49h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D7BE0        0F49h           G1                      SL9CA (Intel Pentium 4 524)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8PR (Intel Pentium 4 541)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9C6 (Intel Pentium 4 541)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9CD (Intel Pentium 4 517)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9CB (Intel Pentium 4 531)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9CJ (Intel Pentium 4 511)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8PQ (Intel Pentium 4 531)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8PS (Intel Pentium 4 551)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8ZY (Intel Pentium 4 517)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8HD (Intel Celeron D 346)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9BS (Intel Celeron D 351)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9C5 (Intel Pentium 4 551)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8H7 (Intel Celeron D 331)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9BT (Intel Celeron D 355)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8H9 (Intel Celeron D 336)
                0F49h           G1                      SL98V (Intel Celeron D 331)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8PL (Intel Pentium 4 506)
                0F49h           G1                      SL98W (Intel Celeron D 336)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9CG (Intel Pentium 4 521)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8HB (Intel Celeron D 341)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8HF (Intel Celeron D 351)
                0F49h           G1                      SL98U (Intel Celeron D 326)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8H5 (Intel Celeron D 326)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8ZZ (Intel Pentium 4 524)
                0F49h           G1                      SL98X (Intel Celeron D 341)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8PN (Intel Pentium 4 519K)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8PP (Intel Pentium 4 521)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9BR (Intel Celeron D 346)
                0F49h           G1                      SL9CK (Intel Pentium 4 506)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8PM (Intel Pentium 4 516)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8U4 (Intel Pentium 4 511)
                0F49h           G1                      SL8HS (Intel Celeron D 355)
0F4Ah twice (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D83E0        0F4Ah           R0                      SL8Q5 (Intel Pentium 4 650)
000D8BE0        0F4Ah           R0                      SL8PZ (Intel Pentium 4 660)
                0F4Ah           R0                      SL8Q9 (Intel Pentium 4 672)
                0F4Ah           R0                      SL8QB (Intel Pentium 4 662)
                0F4Ah           R0                      SL8PY (Intel Pentium 4 670)
                0F4Ah           R0                      SL8UP (Intel Pentium 4 662)
                0F4Ah           R0                      SL8Q7 (Intel Pentium 4 630)
                0F4Ah           R0                      SL8Q6 (Intel Pentium 4 640)
0F64h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D93E0        0F64h           C1                      SL96H (Intel Pentium 4 661)
                0F64h           C1                      SL96J (Intel Pentium 4 651)
                0F64h           C1                      SL9AN (Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965)
                0F64h           C1                      SL9D9 (Intel Pentium D 925)
                0F64h           C1                      SL9QB (Intel Pentium D 945)
                0F64h           C1                      SL9XU (Intel Celeron D 347)
                0F64h           C1                      SL96K (Intel Pentium 4 641)
                0F64h           C1                      SL95W (Intel Pentium D 940)
                0F64h           C1                      SL95X (Intel Pentium D 930)
                0F64h           C1                      SL95V (Intel Pentium D 950)
                0F64h           C1                      SL9AP (Intel Pentium D 960)
                0F64h           C1                      SL96N (Intel Celeron D 356)
                0F64h           C1                      SL96P (Intel Celeron D 352)
                0F64h           C1                      SL96L (Intel Pentium 4 631)
                0F64h           C1                      SL9DA (Intel Pentium D 915)
0F32h TRASH - Engineering samples (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000D9FE0        0F32h           B1                      QJ23 (Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz)
                0F32h           B1                      QJ29 (Intel Pentium 4 505)
                0F32h           B1                      QJ35 (Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz)
0F37h TRASH (this CPU's have Socket type Socket 604) (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Processor core          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DA7E0        0F37h           Nocona                  C1                      Q29P (Intel Xeon 2.667 GHz)
                0F37h           Nocona                  C1                      QU10 (Intel Xeon 2.8 GHz)
                0F37h           Nocona                  C1                      QU09 (Intel Xeon 3 GHz)
                0F37h           Nocona                  C1                      QL84 (Intel Xeon 3.2 GHz)
                0F37h           Nocona                  C1                      QU08 (Intel Xeon 3.2 GHz)
                0F37h           Nocona                  C1                      QL85 (Intel Xeon 3 GHz)
                0F37h           Nocona                  C1                      QL86 (Intel Xeon 2.8 GHz)
                0F37h           Nocona                  C1                      QL83 (Intel Xeon 3.4 GHz)
                0F37h           Nocona                  C1                      Q82R (Intel Xeon 2.8 GHz)
0F60h TRASH - UNKNOWN Prescott core series (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Processor core                  Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DAFE0        0F60h           Prescott

0F61h TRASH - Engineering samples (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DB7E0        0F61h           B0                      QFDD (Intel Pentium 4 3.4 GHz)
0F62h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DBFE0        0F62h           B1                      SL94W (Intel Pentium 4 651)
                0F62h           B1                      SL94Q (Intel Pentium D 940)
                0F62h           B1                      SL8WS (Intel Pentium D 920)
                0F62h           B1                      SL94S (Intel Pentium D 920)
                0F62h           B1                      SL8WP (Intel Pentium D 950)
                0F62h           B1                      SL8WQ (Intel Pentium D 940)
                0F62h           B1                      SL94X (Intel Pentium 4 641)
                0F62h           B1                      SL94P (Intel Pentium D 950)
                0F62h           B1                      SL8WJ (Intel Pentium 4 631)
                0F62h           B1                      SL94R (Intel Pentium D 930)
                0F62h           B1                      SL94Y (Intel Pentium 4 631)
                0F62h           B1                      SL8WM (Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 955)
                0F62h           B1                      SL94V (Intel Pentium 4 661)
                0F62h           B1                      SL8WR (Intel Pentium D 930)
                0F62h           B1                      SL8WF (Intel Pentium 4 661)
                0F62h           B1                      SL8WG (Intel Pentium 4 651)
                0F62h           B1                      SL94N (Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 955)
                0F62h           B1                      SL8WH (Intel Pentium 4 641)
0F65h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DCBE0        0F65h           D0                      SL9KJ (Intel Celeron D 365)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9K7 (Intel Pentium D 960)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KN (Intel Celeron D 347)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9K8 (Intel Pentium D 950)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KB (Intel Pentium D 915)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9QQ (Intel Pentium D 945)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KD (Intel Pentium 4 661)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KF (Intel Pentium 4 641)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KE (Intel Pentium 4 651)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KA (Intel Pentium D 925)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KK (Intel Celeron D 360)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KL (Intel Celeron D 356)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KM (Intel Celeron D 352)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9QR (Intel Pentium D 935)
                0F65h           D0                      SL9KG (Intel Pentium 4 631)
06F9h TRASH - Engineering samples (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DCFE0        06F9h           E0                      QSCU (Intel Core 2 Duo E6850)
                06F9h           E0                      QSCY (Intel Core 2 Duo E6750)
06F2h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DDFE0        06F2h           L2                      SLA3J (Intel Pentium E2140)
                06F2h           L2                      SL9VT (Intel Xeon 3040)
                06F2h           L2                      SLA3H (Intel Pentium E2160)
                06F2h           L2                      SL9TA (Intel Core 2 Duo E6300)
                06F2h           L2                      SL9TB (Intel Core 2 Duo E4300)
                06F2h           L2                      SL9T9 (Intel Core 2 Duo E6400)
                06F2h           L2                      SLA5E (Intel Core 2 Duo E6300)
                06F2h           L2                      SLA3F (Intel Core 2 Duo E4400)
                06F2h           L2                      SL9VS (Intel Xeon 3050)
                06F2h           L2                      SLAC2 (Intel Xeon 3040)
06F7h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DEFE0        06F7h           B3                      SL9UQ (Intel Xeon X3210)
                06F7h           B3                      SL9UP (Intel Xeon X3220)
                06F7h           B3                      SL9UL (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700)
                06F7h           B3                      SL9UK (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800)
                06F7h           B3                      SL9UM (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600)
06F6h (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DFFE0        06F6h           B2                      SL9S5 (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9S8 (Intel Core 2 Duo E6600)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9S7 (Intel Core 2 Duo E6700)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9S9 (Intel Core 2 Duo E6400)
                06F6h           B2                      SLA4U (Intel Core 2 Duo E6320)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9ZH (Intel Xeon 3060)
                06F6h           B2                      SLA4T (Intel Core 2 Duo E6420)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9ZC (Intel Xeon 3070)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9ZF (Intel Core 2 Duo E6700)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9ZL (Intel Core 2 Duo E6600)
                06F6h           B2                      SLACD (Intel Xeon 3060)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9TY (Intel Xeon 3050)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9SA (Intel Core 2 Duo E6300)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9U2 (Intel Xeon 3070)
                06F6h           B2                      SLACC (Intel Xeon 3070)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9TW (Intel Xeon 3040)
                06F6h           B2                      SLABZ (Intel Xeon 3050)
                06F6h           B2                      SL9TZ (Intel Xeon 3060)
0660h TRASH - Engineering sample (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000E0FE0        0660h           L2                      QUSE (Intel Celeron 2800 MHz)
06F5h twice TRASH - Engineering samples (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000E1FE0        06F5h           B1                      QPGE (Intel Core 2 Duo E6600)
000E2FE0        06F5h           B1                      QPHV (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)
                06F5h           B1                      QQMM (Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme QX6700)
                06F5h           B1                      QPGA (Intel Core 2 Duo E6700)
                06F5h           B1                      QPHC (Intel Core 2 Duo E6300)
                06F5h           B1                      QPGB (Intel Core 2 Duo E6700)
                06F5h           B1                      QPGY (Intel Core 2 Duo E6400)
06F4h TRASH - Engineering samples (Click to show)
Code:
OFFSET               CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000E3FE0        06F4h           B0                      QLLO (Intel Core 2 Duo E6700)
                06F4h           B0                      QMAQ (Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz)
                06F4h           B0                      QMAM (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700)

When unsupported CPU was installed, but his name is present in CPU table, BIOS will load default setting's for it:
FSB=66MHz multiplier=same as CPU have

FASTEST CPU's that already support (exclude Xeon CPU's that same as Core 2 Quad):
Dual core:
SL9S5 (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)

Quad core:
SL9UM (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600)
SL9UL (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700)
SL9UK (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800)

Edited by kepocuhka - 2/23/13 at 8:32am
post #3573 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by kepocuhka View Post

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So, as i understand, CPU ID update with cbrom was failed?

No failure yet, I should know when I test the modded BIOS during the week.

John
post #3574 of 3843
06F6h (Click to show)
O6F6H
Code:
OFFSET            CPU ID          Core stepping           CPU sSpec (CPU Name)
000DFFE0        06F6h            B2                      SL9S5 (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)
                06F6h              B2                      QTOI (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)

06F5h twice (Click to show)
O6F5H
Code:

000E2FE0        06F5h              B1                      QPHV (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)



AMONG THE LIST OF FASTEST CPU's that already support (exclude Xeon CPU's that same as Core 2 Quad):
Dual core:
 

SL9S5 (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)    QTOI (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800) and QPHV (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)

 

 

Hello Stanislav and John,

 

Curiously, my list shows only one compatible 1066 MHz FSB 'Conroe' Core 2 Extreme X6800; the "SL9S5"

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/27258/Intel-Core2-Extreme-Processor-X6800-4M-Cache-2_93-GHz-1066-MHz-FSB

 

PCN/MDDS Information SL9S5

884350: PCN | MDDS

884552: PCN | MDDS

 

Is it possible that what we are seeing with the 'QTOI' and 'QPHV' references are product number assignments, for runs which were were not actually produced?

 

Cheers!

Robert.

 

PS:  Stanislav, I believe that after about 5 regular posts, the daily 'PM' restriction is lifted. You might want to recheck that periodically to see if they have lifted your limit. AVS Forum does this for new members to try to limit the potential for spamming. Makes sense, but is also annoying for our new members.

 

PPS. I found my own answer. the QTOI and QPHV processors were Intel ConroeXE "Qualification Samples".  I suspect that all of the 4-character alphanumeric designations beginning with "Q" may also merely be Qualification Samples for that product otherwise identified with the standard 5-character product code.


Edited by REnninga - 2/17/13 at 5:31pm
post #3575 of 3843
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06FB CPU support list (Click to show)
Code:
SLACQ (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700)
SLACS (Intel Xeon X3230)
SLACR (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600)
SLACU (Intel Xeon X3210)
SLACP (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800)
SLACT (Intel Xeon X3220)

With G0 stepping

Edited by kepocuhka - 2/23/13 at 8:37am
post #3576 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by kepocuhka View Post

When unsupported CPU was installed, but his name is present in CPU table, BIOS will load default setting's for it:
FSB=66MHz multiplier=same as CPU have

FASTEST CPU's that already support (exclude Xeon CPU's that same as Core 2 Quad):
Dual core:
SL9S5 (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)

Quad core:
SL9UM (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600)
SL9UL (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700)
SL9UK (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800)
 

 

Hello Stanislav,

 

I found the performance test passmarks / CPU marks for those processors  [compared to the Core 2 Duo E6300 and E6400 units which shipped OEM in the XL201, XL202, XL301, XL302 and XL3 models], following:

 

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 1.86GHz
= 1,099 Performance test passmark / CPU mark

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 2.13GHz

= 1,272 Performance test passmark / CPU mark

 

 

Dual core:
SL9S5 (Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800)

 

Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 @ 2.93GHz
= 2,037 Performance test passmark / CPU mark

 

Quad core:
SL9UM (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600)

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
= 2,958 Performance test passmark / CPU mark

 

 

 

Quad core:
SL9UK (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800)

Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800 @ 2.93GHz
= 3,765 Performance test passmark / CPU mark

 

 

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

 

Cheers!

Robert.

 

post #3577 of 3843
Hello, Robert!

Problem in that QX6800 have 130W TDP, so we can get unstable thermal system, or greater noise.
post #3578 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by kepocuhka View Post

Hello, Robert!

Problem in that QX6800 have 130W TDP, so we can get unstable thermal system, or greater noise.

 

I absolutely agree with you, Stanislav.  Even if it booted, ... it's a pretty poor match for a maximum 297-watt system power supply, and a passive radiator CPU cooling assembly.  But, ... you could probably cook a nice pork roast inside the XL* case. The key would be selecting the right size of roast (keeping it small), so that the roast would be completely cooked before the processor was completely cooked!  biggrin.gif

 

Cheers!

Robert.

post #3579 of 3843
That's nice joke, Robert!
Edited by kepocuhka - 2/23/13 at 9:18am
post #3580 of 3843
Congratulations! I'll be doing the test with a Q6600 G0 on Thursday.

John
post #3581 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by kepocuhka View Post

That's nice joke, Robert!

I just found information about how BIOS check CRC, checksums and other. So i check whole BIOS and flash it biggrin.gif

I don't have needed CPU, but I guarantee that he will work, because BIOS loads perfectly. wink.gif





Now we must search raid bios for update, or maybe not.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwaiv View Post

Congratulations! I'll be doing the test with a Q6600 G0 on Thursday.

John

 

Good work Stanislav and John,

 

I have gone through the lists of CPU ID groups, and I have a list of questions I'm preparing for you both. But I'm going to take this back offline for now (at least for my part), and I'll contact you both by 'PM' tomorrow.

 

Stanislav, your daily AVS Forum private message 'PM' limit should now be lifted. We can verify that, with you and John and I communicating by 'PM" rather than on the regular discussion thread. I'll explain in my message.

 

Just a quick heads-up to you both before you start swapping and testing processors. As tempting as it will be to speed up your work, I recommend you don't try booting and testing without the passive radiator cooling assembly in place each and every time you swap processors. Even the cooler-running TDP 65w Core 2 Duo processors will reach critical shutdown temperature in as little as 2-seconds without the passive cooling assembly in place.

It's fussy and time-consumming to keep taking it off and putting it on, but trust me it's worth the effort ....and a lot better than cooking a CPU or motherboard socket!  biggrin.gif

 

Also, I'll offer once again one of my most famous (and wierd) alternatives to expensive commercial thermal transfer paste (which you'll go thru quickly during processors testing. Ready for it? 

 

(Drum roll) ...

 

 

40% Zinc Oxide Diaper Rash Ointment !!!!

 

Yep, it works great (better than many expensive commercial thermal transfer compounds), and it's easier to apply as a thin, even layer than most commercial thermal transfer compounds, easier to wipe off, and applies easily with the edge of a credit card. Just squeeze some out onto a folded paper towel and leave it for a few minutes to draw off the extra oils, and it's ready to go. 

 

I used to recommend "Budreaux's Butt Paste" brand diaper rash ointment (partly because I find the brand name amusing), but they reduced the percentage of Zinc Oxide, which is what you want for the thermal transfer. You want 40% (or higher). 

 

Give it a try. One 4-oz. tube is enough for about 3,000 processor changes ( or about 50 diaper changes ).

 

Cheers!

Robert.

 

PS. You can also use Hershey's Chocolate Syrup for thermal transfer compound. It doesn't actually do anything to reduce the core temperatures of the CPU ( in fact it may actually INCREASE the temperature ), ...but it gives the whole room a nice Hot Chocolate fragrance ...just before the computer starts smoking and shuts down.  cool.gif


Edited by REnninga - 2/20/13 at 9:07pm
post #3582 of 3843
Samsung 3d TV and XL301


Hi all, Long time no see!

I see things are moving along, I'll be interested in the outcome of the bios research as I gave up on that about 2~3 years ago.

Anyway, heres my question:

have been running the 301 with SSD, E6700, 4Gb ram, ATI 4550 for a while now and all is perfect, or was until we bought a new TV (Samsung ES468000/uxxu)

The TV is fabulous, utterly utterly fabulous, so now I want to play 3d Blurays from the 301 to the TV. I've upgraded the HDMI cable to 1.4 and from what I can gather the TV should now autosense the signal when 3D is present.

It does not do this and we have to play around within the TV settings, to get it to work this leads me towards replacing old faithfull (ATI 4550) with a new card.

Does anyone know of a card with HDMI 1.4 output, or has anyone got this working?

Thanks, Sid.

PS is RAFCOPPA still on here? I sent him the leads from a defunct PSU and he was going to play around modding a generic unit to fit the XL's...
Edited by Sid the cat - 2/21/13 at 5:53am
post #3583 of 3843
Hi everyone,

I have a few questions about external hard Drives.

I am looking to increase storage again, what are the limits on external hard drives. Is there a Max size i.e. 2TB per HD? is there a max number of HDs and is there a Max number of total size ie all HDs that I must not exceed?

I currently have a 1TB and another 2TB HDs. I am hoping to add another 3TB Hard drive if possible?

Cheers in advance,

Oliver
post #3584 of 3843
Oliver,

Just search for any NAS, such as Seagate BlackArmor NAS400, or any other.
post #3585 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid the cat View Post

Samsung 3d TV and XL301


Hi all, Long time no see!

I see things are moving along, I'll be interested in the outcome of the bios research as I gave up on that about 2~3 years ago.

Anyway, heres my question:

have been running the 301 with SSD, E6700, 4Gb ram, ATI 4550 for a while now and all is perfect, or was until we bought a new TV (Samsung ES468000/uxxu)

The TV is fabulous, utterly utterly fabulous, so now I want to play 3d Blurays from the 301 to the TV. I've upgraded the HDMI cable to 1.4 and from what I can gather the TV should now autosense the signal when 3D is present.

It does not do this and we have to play around within the TV settings, to get it to work this leads me towards replacing old faithfull (ATI 4550) with a new card.

Does anyone know of a card with HDMI 1.4 output, or has anyone got this working?

Thanks, Sid.

PS is RAFCOPPA still on here? I sent him the leads from a defunct PSU and he was going to play around modding a generic unit to fit the XL's...

 

Hello Sid,

 

Long time no see, you have been missed.  I personally stepped up to the Sapphire HD6670 Low Profile 1GB GDDR5 about 6-7 months ago and it's brilliant. I'm not familiar with that Samsung model, but my Sony LED/LCD has similar specs (and integrated WiFi). This card, with CCC software suite "v.13.1" senses the TV, and the TV senses the Sapphire card (either through the HDMI cable or the WiFi network, not sure?) I am using the "HDMI 1.4" specification cable which came with the Sony TV.

 

See my post #3571 above, where you will also find links/URLs on that post for more information.

 

In addition to the 3D support, you will see that the HD6670 has 480 stream processors vs 80 stream processors in your HD4550.

 

Another card, a little more spendy at about +$20-$25 USD more, but better performance, warrants your consideration as well. Two or three of the contributors to this thread over the past few months have it now running in their VGX-XL* systems. It is the Sapphire HD7750 Low Profile 1GB GDDR5; 512 stream processors vs 480 for the HD6670 vs 80 for the HD4550.

 

The HD7750 Low profile also has the new 28 nm GPU and HDMI with 3D.

 

Sapphire HD 7750 1GB GDDR5 Low Profile

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1159&pid=1658&psn=&lid=1&leg=0

 

 

While you are on the Sapphire website you will see  "Add to Comparison"  buttons on the individual product pages. If interested you can select that button and do a side-by-side product specs comparison of your current HD4550, and the HD6670, and the HD7750. I found this comparison utility helpful in choosing my new card.

 

Best regards, and don't be a stranger ( or at least don't be any stranger than you are! ) biggrin.gif

 

Cheers! 

Robert.

 

PS. No, we haven't seen 'RAFCOPPA' in longer than we last saw you. HA!   As an aside, I heard through the grapevine recently that a 18-pin molex motherboard connector is available out there in the aftermarket, but have not yet tracked down a source. If true, it will certainly make it easier to transfer the guts ... excuse me, the "innards" of a modern, quiet 80-plus Bronze m-ATX PSU to the emptied-out enclosure of the Delta 297w unit.

A recent addition to our ol' discussion thread has posted and sent to me some excellent internal photos of the contents of the Delta unit ( we were trying to remotely diagnose if it visable evidence of failure). If you would like me to send off a copy of those photos to you, send me a 'PM' and I'll quickly get his permission and then send you a copy of them.


Edited by REnninga - 2/21/13 at 9:35pm
post #3586 of 3843
Final updates for VGX-XL3 and VGN-XL302 BIOS:
1) 06F7 microcode is updated to version 6A 2010/10/02
2) 06F2 microcode is updated to version 5D 2010/10/02
3) 06F6 microcode is updated to version D0 2010/09/30
4) 0F37h and 0F60h was replaced with 06FB BA 2010/10/03



Awaiting original BIOS from another XL* smile.gif
Edited by kepocuhka - 2/21/13 at 2:05pm
post #3587 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by kepocuhka View Post

Awaiting original BIOS from another XL* smile.gif

 

Hello Stanislav and John,

 

I'll be sending you the original BIOS copies I have collected within the hour, as well as the BIOS ID information sheet I have started. You two can fill out the remainder of the BIOS ID when the information is provided. (The information is in Windows.TXT file format)..

 

I apologise, but three of my prospective BIOS copy donors have not followed through on their commitment; but I will send you both what I have, and forward the others to you both if they do eventually arrive.

 

I have also expanded my outreach to others with the same VGX-XL* models, as those who have not followed through.

 

Cheers!

Robert. 


Edited by REnninga - 2/21/13 at 9:14pm
post #3588 of 3843
Hello, all. I haven't been on here for years. I'm working on resurrecting my VGX-XL3 for daily use as a light duty media pc again. No video recording, tuner functionality, cable card, etc needed. Just music, pics, and occasional Internet video. I just want it to be stable. I've bought the license key for Windows 7, and was starting to read through this forum first, but there's just too much info. I'm planning on a fresh install, not an upgrade. Any proprietary Sony devices/drivers to watch out for? Is 64 bit an option? Looks like the hardware will support it, at least on paper. Everything is stock, except I did replace the flakey video card with a Radeon HD 4300/4500 series.

Any pointers much appreciated.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
post #3589 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by crevi74 View Post

Hello, all. I haven't been on here for years. I'm working on resurrecting my VGX-XL3 for daily use as a light duty media pc again. No video recording, tuner functionality, cable card, etc needed. Just music, pics, and occasional Internet video. I just want it to be stable. I've bought the license key for Windows 7, and was starting to read through this forum first, but there's just too much info. I'm planning on a fresh install, not an upgrade. Any proprietary Sony devices/drivers to watch out for? Is 64 bit an option? Looks like the hardware will support it, at least on paper. Everything is stock, except I did replace the flakey video card with a Radeon HD 4300/4500 series.

Any pointers much appreciated.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

 

Hello again crevi,

 

We were pretty sure you had "passed on" (or worse, that your VGX-XL3 had passed-on eek.gif)

 

Yes, our VGX-XL* systems all love Windows 7, and most of us have already upgraded (a few have even jumped to windows 8).

And if you will be installing a Windows 7 version with Media Center, you will love the user interface and functionality improvements, over your Vista Home Premium Media Center.  And add the free Media Browser plug-ins and you've got an HTPC was is darned close to Nirvana (well, at least it can see Nirvana from its house!")

 

A clean installation (for some reason referred to by Microsoft as a Custom installation) is in some regards a little easier (less fussy), ....but you will encounter some hiccups following installation in the hardware device drivers, which for the most part get sorted out by letting Windows Update run with auto updates for a few days after you complete the installation.

 

As for deciding between x86 (32-bit) or x64 (64-bit) Windows 7 the best recommendation I can make to you is to first run the Microsoft Windows Upgrade Advisor on your system (if you have not already done so). You will get a nifty, thorough and printable report of incompatabilities for hardware and software for both 32-bit and 64-bit installations of Windows 7.

 

Download page:   http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/upgrade-advisor

 

Before proceding with your Windows 7 installation, "F2" boot into the Bios and disable the IEEE-1394 iLink Firewire support. There is a system conflict with a new IEEE-1394 driver which is loaded in Windows 7 (all versions).

If the IEEE-1394 Firewire support is not temporarity disabled in the Bios before beginning installation, during the multiple auto restarts during the Windows 7 installation, the system will freeze at the "VAIO" boot splash screen and you will have to manually intervene and cycle the power button. Windows still installs, but if you can avoid the possibility of any files corruption during your OS installation and avoid the boot freezes, you can avoid possible headaches or corrupted installation glitches..

 

After you finish your installation, send me a 'PM' and I'll help you to install the correct driver for the IEEE-1394 bus which does not cause the boot freeze, and you'll have your rear and your front I/O iLink Firewire support available, if you want to connect your Disk changer, or external hard drives, etc. 

 

Also, if you do have a VGP-XL1B Disk Changer, there is a correct procedure for installing it in Windows 7 (Note: you will not reuse any of the software that came on the OEM Sony CD packaged with your Disk Changer; just the drivers which are built-in to Windows 7, the support interface in Media Center and the updates delivered by Windows Update).

You will also want to uninstall the drivers for your Radeon HD 4300/4500 video/graphics card before beginning your Windows 7 installation (just allow the card to use the native/generic video drivers and lower resolution) and then reinstall your Radeon card software suite following the the completion of your Windows 7 installation; either from your OEM software CD, or just go to the AMD site, and find the Catalyst Software Suite current update for your card, download and install it from AMD. 

 

Downloads support page:   http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

 

Your video card manufacturer's website might also have the same Catalyst Coftware Suite update download available.

 

 

 

 

Here are ssome considerations to add to your 32-bit vs. 64-bit decision:

 

* 64-bit will allow your system to run 8GB of RAM (maximum), all addressable and "usable." The memory DIMMS selection is important, however. If you go with 64-bit and want to install *gb of RAM (two-pairs of dual-channet 2GB DIMMS = 4x 2GB), you can post your intentions here if you wish and we can give you some pointers of which specs. to avoid, and which will work best in the VGX-XL3.

* 64-bit offers improved system stability.

* 64-bit may be incompatible with some of your owned programs and applications, which you would need to replace.

* 64-bit will disable the functionality of the front panel Blu-ray optical drive eject button . We do not have a patch as yet for this, and inasmuch as we have known about and not fixed the problem in about 5-years, you should assume there isn't going to be a fix and decide if that's a deal killer (you will have to use the eject function in "Computer" with the touchpad, and touchpad buttons or wireless mouse. [Note: it is possible to reroute the wired connection from the front panel eject button and cut and solder them to the eject input points of the optical drive. You would need to consider your own skill set if you decided to tackle that hardwired fix].

 

       ************************************************************

 

* 32-bit maximum RAM is 4GB installed (about 3.25GB addressable "usable", and the remainder allocated for background services). This is a Windows imposed limitation. There is a method of bypassing the Windows 32-bit RAM limitation by installing a 36-bit Physical Address Extension (PAE) kernel patch, which will allow you to install the maximum 8GB of RAM which is supported by your Intel 965P chipset, and then select on booting when you wish to run 4GB and when you wish to run 8GB.  I have posted ( a few pages back in this thread ) the information about the PAE kernel patch, and the download link (Note: it is written for and only installs on Windows 7 x86 (32-bit)].

* 32-bit does not guarantee that the Blu-ray optical drive eject button functionality will be restored for your system. I would say about +/- half of the VGX-XL* system owners who post here who have done a complete clean ("custom") installation of Windows 7 32-bit ( rather than an "upgrade" installation ) have been unable to successfully restore functionality by reinstalling the Sony 32-bit software support. 

However, to the best of my knowledge everyone who has done an "upgrade" installation from Vista Home Premium to Windows 7 ( or even have done an "upgrade" installation from the Sony/OEM XP Media Center Edition, to the sony/OEM Vista Home Premium, and then an "upgrade" installation of Windows 7 32-bit, have all retained all of their hardware functuionality including the Blu-ray optical drive eject button functionality)

* 32-bit "upgrade" installation will retain most of your Sony OEM applications, all of your Sony support utilities and will retain your Sony Firmware Extension Parser Device Driver, specific to your VGX-XL3. And you will retain your system ID as a VGX-XL3 when you use Windows Update and the Sony support page for your VGX-XL3 model, including being able to download and successfully install Sony updates delivered through the support page. You will lose these things with a clean ("custom") installation.

 

 

 

If you choose a 32-bit vs a 64-bit installation, a recommendation I would make to you is either clean up your exisitng installation of Windows Vista Home Premium (or backup your personal files and do a complete Factory fresh System Recovery installation from the Recovery partition or from your set of Recovery DVD's if you own a set) and then let Windows Update bring you fully current over the course of a few days of updates. Then do an 'upgrade' installation of Windows 7 over the fresh, fully factory fresh Recovery installation of Windows Home Premium (and retain all of the good aspects of your VGX-XL3 as designed and the support utilities and drivers). You will have no unknown device warnings in Device Manager.

 

You can also "clone" (image) your existing Hard Drive to another fresh HDD or SSD, using a software application such as Acronis, and then do your Windows 7 upgrade installation on the cloned drive withour affecting a single file on your existing system drive. That will give you the flexibility of changing your decision later, if you decide you want to do something else, because you still have your status quo system drive unchanged; you just need to plug it in.

 

Last recommendation tonight:  I strongly recommend for all of our VGX-XL* owners that they install a SATA2 (SATA II) Solid State Drive (SSD) for their system OS/boot/programs/applications drive for Windows 7.  The performance improvement is steller, the system OS boots much faster, the system runs cooler, quiter and more reliably, draws less power off the power supply, and you don't even need to mount the 2-12 inch SSD in the hard disk drive rack (leaving all three bays available for storage HDD's, if desired).  If you decide to install a SSD for your Windows 7 system OS drive, let me know and I can give you some pointers, recommended minimum drive capacity ( depending on how you will use it ), and share some bench test results and settings recommendations for optimizing its performance.

 

Cheers!

Robert.

post #3590 of 3843
Thanks Robert,

FYI the link for Molex connector is herehttp://www.molex.com/molex/products/datasheet.jsp?part=active/0430251800_CRIMP_HOUSINGS.xml

Also, the tools are readily available on ebay here http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/?_nkw=molex%20pin%20tool&clk_rvr_id=452996995964

Sid.
post #3591 of 3843
REnninga,

Thanks for all the info on the Win 7 upgrade - most of it above my head. Since I'm not really a PC4 tweaker, and my needs are pretty basic, I'm leaning towards a system restore and Win 7 32 upgrade. I don't really want to be playing with this forever to get it to work. I've already cleared off all important files and don't have and programs I'm concerned with, so the restore should be fine. I was going to sell it, but never got around to it, so it sat in the basement for a couple years.

Tell me about Win 7 with Media Center? How do you get it? My license key is actually for Win 7 Pro.

If you could provide simple instructions to restore and upgrade, for a relative dummy, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thx

Sent from my Motorola Photon using Tapatalk 2
post #3592 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by crevi74 View Post

REnninga,

Thanks for all the info on the Win 7 upgrade - most of it above my head. Since I'm not really a PC4 tweaker, and my needs are pretty basic, I'm leaning towards a system restore and Win 7 32 upgrade. I don't really want to be playing with this forever to get it to work. I've already cleared off all important files and don't have and programs I'm concerned with, so the restore should be fine. I was going to sell it, but never got around to it, so it sat in the basement for a couple years.

Tell me about Win 7 with Media Center? How do you get it? My license key is actually for Win 7 Pro.

If you could provide simple instructions to restore and upgrade, for a relative dummy, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thx

Sent from my Motorola Photon using Tapatalk 2


Just plug it in, install W7 and enjoy
post #3593 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid the cat View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by crevi74 View Post

REnninga,

Thanks for all the info on the Win 7 upgrade - most of it above my head. Since I'm not really a PC4 tweaker, and my needs are pretty basic, I'm leaning towards a system restore and Win 7 32 upgrade. I don't really want to be playing with this forever to get it to work. I've already cleared off all important files and don't have and programs I'm concerned with, so the restore should be fine. I was going to sell it, but never got around to it, so it sat in the basement for a couple years.

Tell me about Win 7 with Media Center? How do you get it? My license key is actually for Win 7 Pro.

If you could provide simple instructions to restore and upgrade, for a relative dummy, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thx

Sent from my Motorola Photon using Tapatalk 2


Just plug it in, install W7 and enjoy

Thx. Looks like Media Center is part of Win 7? What are the free Media Browser plug-installed mentioned above, and where do you get them?

With an "upgrade" vs "custom" install, do I still need to uninstall the firewire and video card driver as described above?

Sent from my Motorola Photon using Tapatalk 2
post #3594 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid the cat View Post

Thanks Robert,

FYI the link for Molex connector is herehttp://www.molex.com/molex/products/datasheet.jsp?part=active/0430251800_CRIMP_HOUSINGS.xml

Also, the tools are readily available on ebay here http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/?_nkw=molex%20pin%20tool&clk_rvr_id=452996995964

Sid.

 

Thanks Sid. You've always been the best ( and I don't care what those other people say )  biggrin.gif

 

I have forgotten, did you swap-out / mod a OEM Delta 297-watt PSU yourself?  We have at least two forum members who within the past couple of weeks are posting that they are dealing with possible failed PSU problems. Possible, because neither has had theirs tested yet, as far as I know. So curious to be reminded if you actually replaced your OEM with the innards of a similar sized unit and used the aftermarket acquired 18-pin molex?

 

Thanks for sending the links. That's a nice addition to the forum resources. We need to figure out how to create a master index and repository for this resources, tips, how-to's and stuff, because it now just gets lost among the other thousands of posts.

 

Cheers!

Robert.

post #3595 of 3843
Quote:
Originally Posted by crevi74 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid the cat View Post

Just plug it in, install W7 and enjoy

Thx. Looks like Media Center is part of Win 7? What are the free Media Browser plug-installed mentioned above, and where do you get them?

With an "upgrade" vs "custom" install, do I still need to uninstall the firewire and video card driver as described above?

Sent from my Motorola Photon using Tapatalk 2

 

Hello crevi,

 

Yes, Sid is right. I think the only versions of Windows 7 without Media Center are "Starter" and "Home Basic", and I'm not even sure they're available anymore? So Windows 7 Professional (or Home Premium, Enterprise or Ultimate) and you're 'good to go.'

 

Yes, temporarily disabling the Firewire avoids a problem we all encountered, but it's easy to do and will make the Windows 7 "upgrade" installation completely automatic. I can assist, if you are uncertain about booting to the BIOS ("F2") and turning it off.

 

If you do that, no intervention on your part will be needed for your Windows 7 "upgrade" installation. 

 

And yes, when you run the "Windows 7 Upgrade Adviser" you will see it's recommended to uninstall the drivers for your Radeon card before beginning the Windows 7 installation, and reinstalling your video/graphics card drivers following the upgrade. If you no longer have the OEM software and drivers CD for the Radeon card, no problem. because Windows will identify your card and install the basic Windows 7 support drivers for the Radeon HD4300/4500 series card (replacing the Vista drivers which are no longer present) and therefore no conflict with the new drivers installation).  And then when everything is finished you'll download the most current "complete" Catalyst Software Suite update version for your card from the AMD link that I gave you (or the card manufacturers website).

 

A few minutes of preparation avoids having to deal with and fix any conflicts or unidentified hardware devices following installation of Windows 7, and there's less of that to begin with, following an "Upgrade" installation over the top of your original OS programs, applications and setups. As goes the old adage: "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."

 

From my personal perspective, based on how you will be using it, the most satisfactory end result for you, is what you have decided, a complete factory recovery from the Recovery Partition (or from your System Recovery DVD's) and a Windows 7 x86 (32-bit) "upgrade" installation over the top of that. It's just a little bit "fussier" than the straightforward clean ("custom") installation, but the end result is much more satisfying, if you're not wanting to mess with stuff after your upgrade to Windows 7 and want continued support for a VAIO VGX-XL3. 

 

I have done both "Upgrade" and "Custom" (clean), and both 32-bit and 64-bit  installations, and "Upgrade" yields far better end results if you want to still have a VAIO VGX-XL* and all its support, following instaling your new OS. I think you'll be happy with doing it by "upgrade" and you'll be VERY pleased with Windows 7 on your system (you certainly aren't going to entertain thoughts of selling it anytime soon. Feel free to contact me by 'PM' when you are ready to go.

 

 

First, here's the link for the free, open source Media Browser project:  http://www.mediabrowser.tv/

 

 

Free Media Browser and its also free plug-ins are all post-installation of Windows 7 with Media Center, so don't worry about downloading anything before you're up and going, and Windows Update has had a few days to get your new Windows 7 installation current with drivers updates, and Service Packs. 

 

I'm sending you a 'PM' with some additional contact info if you want or need any assistance with your Recovery restoration and preparation for the Windows 7 upgrade.

 

As a reminder, the Recovery process from the hidden Recovery Partition (which holds a complete re-installation copy of the Sony factory setups, operating system and programs/applications for your system)  is accessed by scrolling down to the bottom of your start-up menu:   "Start" > "All programs". Look for the shortcut  "VAIO Recovery" and click it. The option you want is labeled:

 

"Restore C: Drive.

This option deletes all files on the C: drive and restores the drive back to the original factory condition."

 

If unclear how to proceed from there, just send me a 'PM' and I'll help you through it. It's really all pretty simple and intuitive, and it's automated so you just watch ... or fix yourself a cocktail and just let it run without intervening. 

Then after a few days of Windows Updates to get the system current, you'll temporarily disable the IEEE-1394 iLink Firewire, as previously noted, and proceed right to the "upgrade" installation of Windows 7 Professional. If I remember correctly the Windows 7 "upgrade" installation will require you to have Vista Home Premium updated to Service Pack 2, through Windows Update, before preceding to install Windows 7. You can reducie the updating process time by downloading a copy of the service packs, or just let them install through Windows Update (which is what Microsoft recommends). 

 

Cheers!

Robert.


Edited by REnninga - 2/22/13 at 5:37pm
post #3596 of 3843
Thx so much, Robert. I'll get started on it this weekend.

One funny thing I noticed in playing with the machine this week is that I get "system" sounds through the HDMI cable connection, but not media sounds (media player songs). Any ideas? Could there be a missing connection or jumper between the sound card and the video card? I can make an optical digital connection to my receiver, but HDMI is so much cleaner and easier.

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post #3597 of 3843
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Originally Posted by crevi74 View Post

Thx so much, Robert. I'll get started on it this weekend.

One funny thing I noticed in playing with the machine this week is that I get "system" sounds through the HDMI cable connection, but not media sounds (media player songs). Any ideas? Could there be a missing connection or jumper between the sound card and the video card? I can make an optical digital connection to my receiver, but HDMI is so much cleaner and easier.

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Hmm, well the most simple answer is to first verify that the independent volume control bar on the bottom of the Windows Media Player interface is not muted, or set at zero (or set too low to hear it).

 

You can use the mute and two volume control buttons on the top row, left-hand side of your VAIO wireles keyboard to check if the volume has been muted or turned down (those buttons are associated with Media Center and Windows Media Player, which is the default player in Media Center). It works in tandem with the core system sounds support from your sound device drivers (AMD and Sigmatel, in your case), but Windows Media Player is an independent application, and individually controlled. You can have 100% volume from the XL3 to your monitor through HDMI , and yet have no volume from Media Player. So first check that independent volume control.

 

If it's a driver glitch, that's not a problem. After the Recovery installation and the Upgrade installations, all of the sound and media drivers get replaced.  Anything which doesn't work right now (or doesn't work properly) on your XL3, becomes factory fresh again with the Recovry installation, and then updated with the Windows 7 "Upgrade" installation.

 

Cheers!

Robert.

post #3598 of 3843
Robert,
My reasons for getting involved with the PSU was simply that I bought one of the many XL's I've had from ebay with a blown unit. I just bought a new one from Sony, £40.00 inc VAT & postage.

There is a difference between the newer units PSU wise, on the earlier ones there was obviously a problem somewhere component wise, so they changed it.

If you are going to mod a PSU you should not really need a new molex connector, just buy the tool and you can then remove the pins from one unit and install into the other.
post #3599 of 3843

Hi Sid,

 

Thanks for the clarification.

 

My Delta PSU is still working, and I'm not planning to do anything with it, but I was entertaining the thought of trying to do a proof-of-concept conversion of a 400-watt m-ATX unit (the innards of which could be transfered into the enclosure of the OEM Delta) by removing the 20-pin molex connector (it's a 20+4 config.) and then matching the proper voltage leads positions, wire-for-wire,  to match the Delta power configuration and reinserting them in one of the new 18-pin molex connectors.

 

If it worked it would offer an alternative for those with failed Sony/Delta 297w power supplies (which now cost around USD $150 incl. shipping, to replace.

 

Gosh, those 18-pin molex connectors are only USD $1.20 ea. plus shipping!!! eek.gif

 

I looked at the tools on that Ebay.uk webpage. I hate to look like a complete idiot (even though I AM a complete idiot) ...but is the only tool needed (to replace the molex connector) the pin-removal tool ...

Molex Male and Female Pin Connector Removal Tool - PC Modding Tool

...or would I need to also acquire the crimping tool and new pin sets?

 

Obviously, based upon the level of my knowledge, I have absolutely no business whatsoever attempting such a conversion project ... which of course just makes me want to do it even more! HA. biggrin.gif 

 

I already have the appropriate  new 400-watt '80-plus Bronze' m-ATX ( 20+4) PSU in hand, and the measured innards will fit nicely inside the Delta enclosure. If I can remove the pins from the 20+4 molex and then reinsert them into the proper-voltage pin locations as the Delta 18-pin, it seems that it should be a workable rebuild.

 

It looks to me like that pin-removal tool just just slides over the pins and compresses the top of the pin enough to extract it from the molex connector insertion hole so that it can be pulled out of the pin hole.

 

Is that how it works?

 

And if so can they simply then be pushed back into the replacement molex connector?

 

Again, I hate to look like a complete idiot here ....but hey! "It is what it is." redface.gif

 

Cheers!

Robert.

post #3600 of 3843
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Originally Posted by bigoliver View Post

Hi everyone,

I have a few questions about external hard Drives.

I am looking to increase storage again, what are the limits on external hard drives. Is there a Max size i.e. 2TB per HD? is there a max number of HDs and is there a Max number of total size ie all HDs that I must not exceed?

I currently have a 1TB and another 2TB HDs. I am hoping to add another 3TB Hard drive if possible?

Cheers in advance,

Oliver

 

Hello Oliver,

 

I don't know if you already got some answers?

 

Can you clarify if the only hard drive inside your XL301 currnetly is your System SSD (your C: drive) and no HDD's inside the drive rack? 

 

If that's correct, is there a reason why you do not want internal storage in your XL301 (your post says you want to add another external dive).

 

Are those external drives USB 2.0?  eSATA? iLink/Firewire?  (I ask because the max. throughput speeds of those interfaces is a consideration).

 

Do you network to extenders? Are you running a Windows Home Server or a NAS, or just external HDD enclosures attached to the XL301?

 

If you are just running individual (non-RAID) HDD's attached to the XL301, and do not want to go to internal storage or a WHS (Home Server) or a NAS, and you will be managing all of your storage through the XL301 including your media file libraries in Media Center/Media Browser, you can go with a storage system like mine and run any size HDD capacity including the new 3TB and 4TB drives and four or more HDD's per box (and you just open the door and add drives of any capacity as you need more storage). 

 

I installed a $15.00 (USD) PCI-e-SATA/SATA controller card with a port multiplier chip (allows management of multiple individually identified HDD's through a single eSATA port). The controller card populates one of the two slots on the PCI riser.  It provides two (2) eSATA ports on the I/O slot insert and another two SATA ports inside the XL* case for additional internal SSD's. 

To each of those eSATA ports is connected a SansDigital TOWERRAID 4-Drive enclosure with integrated power supply, cooling fan and HDD management hardware.

I bought my enclosures from Newegg.com on sale for about $90 (USD) each (about 60 GBP each). they also have units which hold more drives (up to 8 drives), but I went with the 4-drive model because the dimensions best fit my entertainment center and sitting alongside my XL2 and my XL1B Disk Changers.  Here's a photo and link/URL if you want to read about them: 

 

http://www.sansdigital.com/towerraid-/index.php

 

TR4XB_front__73219.1345920542.1280.1280.jpgTR4MB_open__15030.1345924716.1280.1280.jpg

 

SansDigital TowerRAID TR4M+BNC 4-Bay eSATA JBOD RAID Tower Enclosure

 

They measure only about 7-1/8" tall x 5-3/8" wide x10" deep. 

 

I am currently running two of these boxes filled with eight (8) 2TB 5900 rpm 'green drives' connected to the PCI controller. Additioanlly I have three (3) 1.5TB 5900 rpm "green' drives in a RAID5 volume inside my XL2 drive rack, and two SSD's mounted side-by side atop the Blu-ray optical drive (one is the System OS drive attached to SATA 'port 0' the other is a matched unit attached to one of the internal SATA ports on the PCI controller card and is used for System drive images (backups).

Including the Blu-ray optical drive, and an additional matching slot-load DVD-RW optical drive in a small black external enclosure on top of the XL2, I am running and managing fifteen (15) separate drives with my XL2 (which is older, has a much slower processor, and is much less capable than your own XL301). 

 

So, .... you can do a whole lot with your beautiful ol' XL301 before you encounter her limits, if you plan it out.

 

The finishes of these SansDigital enclosures is gloss black and very nicely done. They complement and match-up with the black and silver finishes of the XL* components very nicely.

 

Another nice thing is that the HDD's are hot-swappable.

 

If you decide to install some internal storage you will have some capacity limitations, but it just requires a different choice of disk management. You can use MBR (master boot record) up to 2TB. Individual Drives or RAID volumes over 2TB need to use GUID partition table. It's very simple, and all done through the "Computer Management > Disk Management" utility in Windows 7.

 

Let me know if you want any more detail, or have unrelated questions about going a different direction.

 

Cheers!

Robert.


Edited by REnninga - 2/24/13 at 3:12am
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