I might have a go at compiling such a page
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I might have a go at compiling such a page
This is a very worthwhile (and ambitious) undertaking. When John, Stanislav and I began the BIOS Project a few months back we discussed beginning a new AVS Forum thread dedicated to ALL EIGHT (8) of the Sony VAIO VGX-XL models shipped to Europe and North America. We had also concluded that 3700+ posts was a lot to wade through searching for useful information; and a lot of what has been posted here over the years is obsolete or has been since determined to be incorrect. It seemed that starting fresh with a forum which embraces all models equally, and shares valid information of use to many, is worth consideration.
As a starting point, please see the attached single .PDF sheet from "The BIOS Project" Knowledge base (Kb) which we have built in support of that project.
MASTER_KNOWLEDGE_BASE_6-09-2013.pdf 44k .pdf file
There are presently several additional sheets of collected data in the Kb which are intended to be shared with all owners/users at the conclusion of BETA Testing. This new owners/users resource site you are proposing would be an ideal location for such a Knowledge base to be shared by all, and expanded, and edited, and made available for reference and download; a living repository of the accumulated knowledge of "VAIO VGX-XL Digital Living System" owners/users.
Whatever you decide, I will contribute and help in any way I can, Oliver. I have quite a lot of useful accumulated information about these VGX-XL systems which I can share, if such a site is available.
Suggestion: I think if you focus first on how to make it a joint building effort, so that you don't end up having to personally carry the burdensome load (and eventually get overwhelmed by it and lose interest) it could be a very, very good thing indeed.
PS. I mentioned Wikipedia. We might give some thought to actually building this shared information project there, because Wikipedia pages can be created, and edited by any VGX-XL owner/user, and expanded endlessly with active hyperlinks, photos, interactive footnotes and references, databases, spreadsheets, diagrams, tables Virtually every resource we can think of to share can be added, and/or hyperlink accessed from a Wikipedia page.
And maybe the best part of this alternative location is ... it's cost free and would be resident on others servers and always backed-up and available.
Note: There is no Wikipedia page yet for "Sony VAIO VGX-XL Digital Living Systems."
If this seems an interesting alternative, we could start by simply registering a page. Just my tuppence.
Size : 2.5-inch
BIOS PROJECT SUCCESS REPORT
PENTIUM D 960 3.60 Ghz CPU NOW RUNNING ON VGX-XL2
I’m pleased to report that I am now running a Pentium D 960 3.60 Ghz CPU ( 'SL9K7' TDP 95w ) on my VGX-XL2 ( which has been upgraded with ‘The BIOS Project’ BETA test BIOS ). The XL2 shares the 'P5LP-MB Rev.2.01' motherboard with the XL100.
The BIOS/CPU upgrade raised the Windows Experience index numbers for Processor from 4.5 to 5.4; Memory from 5.1 to 5.3; Graphics from 6.8 to 7.1
As you all know, BETA test BIOS upgrades are currently being tested for all eight (8) VAIO VGX-XL models : XL1, XL100, XL2, XL201, XL202, XL3, XL301 and XL302
The Pentium D 960 3.60 Ghz CPU has now been running for 6-days+ with absolutely stellar performance on the VGX-XL2, and it is running cool and stable. My XL2 system shipped from Sony with a Pentium D 920 2.80 Ghz CPU.
The difference in system responsiveness, speed and reduced boot time with this upgraded CPU is very noticeable. In fact, I had to change my wireless keyboard touch-pad and mouse settings in Control Panel ( had to slow them down ) because the speed difference with the upgraded CPU made it difficult for me to control the pointer, with my previous settings. HA!
Update: Three (3) weeks running the old VGX-XL2 with "The BIOS Project" BETA test BIOS and CPU upgrade, and not a whiff of a problem. The CPU and Memory monitor gadget on my desktop Sidebar shows the Pentium D 960 3.60 Ghz CPU upgrade typically running between 2% at idle, and approx. 60% at peak load.
I feel like I have a new computer!
The metal inserts are called "Case slot inserts" or "Expansion slot inserts." They are very cheap at your local Computer shop, or can be borrowed (pilfered) from another out-of-service PC. They are somewhat universal, in either full-height or half-height (aka: "low profile").
For those horizontal slot openings for the PCI riser card, where your PCI TV tuners were mounted, you will need full height case slot inserts.
It's a good idea to fill the openings with inserts in a system like our VGX-XL's because they draw a lot of makeup air for the very efficient fin-tube passive radiator CPU cooling assembly. And you really don't want to suck bugs or animal hair inside to your motherboard and circuits. Both bugs and animal hair can be electrically conductive. Best to close the slots and keep hair and critters out. In the VGX-XL systems, the inserts are held in place by the retainer spring clip, rather than screws.
Rai, I wouldn't worry about that temp. reading in the BIOS. 45c is not a concerning temp at all. My own XL2 system ( with a hotter running TDP 95w processor vs. your TDP 65w processor ) ranges between 48c - 52c every day, ...so at 45c your system is just fine (especially given that you say it's been hot there).
If the room air ( from which the case fans are drawing their makeup air for the case exhaust air ) is too warm, the motherboard / case temp readings will of course be higher. The system is air-cooled.
Unless you can cool the room air on these hot days, there's not a lot you can do to make much difference at all inside the case by just drawing a little additional already warm room air through and out of the case with an inefficient slot fan (which will also burn watts and produce its own waste heat by running on the PCI bus).
A slot fan may also slightly modify the convection current flow through the fin-tube radiator, which could actually result in a slightly increased CPU operating temp).
Adding a slot fan would be a bit like trying to cool down the kitchen by opening the door of the refrigerator. Which seems to work fine for you for a few seconds when you are standing directly in front of the refrigerator with the door open, ... until the refrigerator's compressor turns on and dumps more waste hot air into the already hot kitchen. HA!
There are some more effective ways to deal with temporary surplus Summer heat issues:
Just FYI: The speed of your two primary 80 mm exhaust air fans in the rear of the fin-tube radiator assembly are already system-regulated by the sensor / tachometer pin on their four pin connections to the motherboard.
When more cooling is required, your system cranks-up the RPMs on those two fans to suck more air through the fin-tube passive radiator and out the exhaust vents at the rear of the case.
And your having now removed your unneeded TV tuners, I think you'll find your XL301 runs cooler. I can't speak for the UK spec VGX-XL models, but the Aver-Media TV tuner card in my USA spec. XL2 has always run hot; even when not in use (odd, huh?)
You're welcome, Rai.
It's been hot here too, and for the past couple of weeks I have been running my XL2 "topless", with just a 16" x 18" furnace filter layed over the top of it (just to block some of the larger flying bugs and everpresent cat hair). HA!
It does seem to make just enough diference on those 95+ degree days, to keep my system happy, and I am running a LOT of drives and peripherals with my system.
We don't have too many of these really unpleasantly hot days in western Oregon (USA). On these days the old XL2 seems to enjoy going topless. Especially when the oscillating room fan blows some cooler air her way.
Hello Mark. Welcome!
Please click the following hyperlink which will take you to The BIOS Project page at the VGX-XL.com website. Here you will find the instructions for joining the BIOS Project BETA test, in progress.
The BIOS Project
Welcome aboard, and ....
I have not seen a copy of the Sony/ASUS P5BW-MB Rev.1.03 motherboard used in your VGX-XL201, so I do not know whether it uses the SATA inteface for the optical drive with power from the PSU, or uses the older IDE/ATAPI inteface (used for the optical drives of the VGX-XL1, XL100 and XL2 models). Do you know?
If your new drive is the same interface as your OEM optical drive, the connector (or daughterboard connected by two tiny screws to the back of the drive) should be removable and transferable to the new drive.
The Sony Optiarc BC-5600 is a SATA interface, but like all slimline SATA optical drives it has a mini-SATA connection, requiring a SATA adapter connection or wiring harness:
However, if your old drive is an IDE/ATAPI interface, which uses a flat paper ribbon connection to the motherboard and daughter board on the optical drive for data and power, then you are in a pickle. You will need to instead use a IDE/ATAPI Blu-ray slimline slot-load drive such as the Matshita/Panasonic UJ-225, or its Dell equivalent.
If you can provide us more clarification as to which interface, and "why" the new drive will not connect to the old hardware and cabling (photos, etc.) maybe we can give you more concise response).
NATE!!!!! You're ALIVE!!!!!!
Gosh, it's been so long since we have seen you here I was almost certain you were buried in an avalance up at Snoqualmie Pass! (I hate when that happens).
BIOS Project BETA Test 'PM' received, and we'll get you your access key to the BETA Test forum shortly. Look for my response a bit later today in your 'PM' mailbox.
Yes, the Core 2 Quad Q700 is the 'bad boy.' And no, the jump from the TDP 65w Core 2 Duo factory supplied processors to the Core 2 Quad Q6600 and Q6700 processors has not been an issue. Remember, our earlier VGX-XL1, XL100 and XL2 systems all shipped from Sony with TDP 95w Pentium D's. [However the TDP 130 processors are all "no go." (system instability)].
One of our BIOS Project developers / coders has been running a Q6600 in his system now for several months, rock steady. The interesting thing about the Intel product data on the Q6700 is that it is 'muddy' as to what the true, raw TDP is (whether it's 95w, 100w or 105w), because all three TDP ratings are shown for the same sSPEC on the website:
If you will note, on the main page Intel references "Max TDP" (Maximum TDP) as 105w.for the 'SLACQ'. But if you look at the bottom of the left-hand menu, and click on the link "ORDERING / SSPECS / STEPPINGS", on that page the Retail boxed 'SLACQ' with cooling fan is listed as TDP 100w, and the raw OEM tray units w/o cooling fan is listed as TDP 95w (same TDP as the Pentium D processors in the earlier VGX-XL models).
More later, Nate. And it's great to hear from you again.
PS. Be sure to come and check out the new VGX-XLpedia website that Oliver ('bigoliver') started over at www.VGX-XL.com It's pretty new (June), but we he is building content and hoping that in time many AVS Forum Sony VGX-XL3 cronies will contribute content, systems knowledge base info, tips and tricks, etc.