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Does anyone know what the parachute girl really said to Mikhail the eyepatch guy? He said it was thank you but he lies a lot... (I'm pretty sure it wasn't Russian for "Thank You". Another language????)

He said she was speaking Italian, which he apparently understands.

Other forums say she was speaking portuguese at that point and said to Mikhail: "I'm not alone". I take that as a threat to him. She seemed scared of him when he first arrived. It also may mean someone else parachuted out with her, perhaps Penny, or maybe she just means more people will be coming later when she doesn't report back.

She said "help me, I'm dying"

Later she was speaking some other language. Russian maybe?

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Cultural references
* Naomi (the parachutist) speaks many languages:
o "Me estoy muriendo" is Spanish for "I am dying" (from the captions)
o "Aiutame sto morendo" is Italian for "Help me I'm dying" (from the captions)
o She mutters in an "asian language" (from the captions) which Jin claims is Chinese,
not Korean
o After Mikhail and Desmond treat Naomi's wound, she says something in Portuguese not spelled out in the captions. It is not "Thank you" as Mikhail claims. Instead, it sounds like "Eu não estou só" which is Portuguese (spoken with a Brazilian accent) for "I am not alone." This is possibly in conjunction with the discovery of the backpack containing the book entitled "Ardil 22" the Portuguese-language version of "Catch 22."

My eyes were rolling so much this episode they almost developed their own gravitational pull.

Oh look Juliet is going back in the bunker for "some reason" I wonder if she's telling the truth?

Well hey, if it isn't the dead Russian!

They found the plane? Everyone's dead?

All they needed this episode was another character asking a lot of questions that will not get an answer ... hey wait a second ...

Episodes like this just make me think the writer's are just making fun of the audience. Does anyone really believe anything the Others say they are doing at this point? It's so obvious that it's a waste of spooky music. And piling mystery upon mystery is really starting to lose it's novelty value. It doesn't give me a "wow" feeling anymore, just a "good grief" response.

At least Charlie seems to have picked up some tips from Sayid and has a brain, and Jin got to kick someone in the face. They should spin a show off to star just Desmond, Charlie, Sayid, Hurley and Jin. Actual things happen when they are involved.

Apparently the island has the ability to heal, but only up to a certain point.

Charlie didn't look so good once Ethan was done with him. So, maybe it wasn't just Jack's skills that brought him back. I guess, though, if you are "really" dead, like Mr. Eko and Anna Lucia then it is ok to bury.

With all the resources at their disposal, I agree that it would probably not be that difficult to re-create a flight 815 crash in order to ensure no rescue party.

Enjoyed the episode. Several new mysteries... the "death" of Flight 815 (could have been deliberately staged as peter suggests), but might actually have occurred in another timeline. I'm starting to think the electromagnetic properties of the island are so great that it's created sort of a local rip in the ol' space-time continuum or something along those lines. Perhaps injuries healing so fast has to do with bodily functions being "sped up" somehow while consciousness perceives time flowing at a different, slower rate. At any rate, when you're dead, you're dead, but you can be revived/healed right up until the moment of it. That's why Mikhel told them "thank you" when they pushed him into the sonic fence - it was an opportunity to "escape". So, are Ms. Klu and Danny (shot by Juliet) really dead?

Thought it was interesting that Sun would prefer even death to the shame of bearing another man's child while she's married to Jin. Or maybe, she just figures Jin would kill her anyway if he found out. Guy can be a bit of a hothead. And then we learned why she's been so racked with guilt - it was the hush money payed to Jin's Ho'-Mom that caused him to become an "enforcer" for her evil father. Otherwise, their lives might have played out far differently.

Juliet is going to betray Ben. What's he got on her? Just a way off the island? And next week marks the return of Locke! I agree that he's going to try to get Sawyer to kill his evil dad, w/out Sawyer actually finding out who it is.

I was referring to what eyepatch stated as being,"THank you."

They answered a)that Sun had indeed slept with the hotel guy and b)that the baby was Jin's. A couple of questions that took up quite a bit of real estate over in the old thread.

yeah, but the image we saw of "Ben" in the preview was a man in a chair with a BAG over his head

Pretty good episode if you take out the boring backstory. I was really surprised and excited to see Mikhali come out of the woods thinking that he was dead.

Is Locke really coming back next episode as someone said above? Not for nothing, but he's been in the previews the last couple of weeks and has not made an appearance, but I guess next week should be diffrent...


oh wow! just the questions I wanted to know the most! Who's baby it really was Don't bother me with the boring stuff like the smoke monster, the island mysteries, etc. , just give me those days of our lives stuff first! yeah!

There's one possibility that came to mind as soon as they mentioned the plane found with no survivors. Anybody else here ever seen the movie "Millenium"? Could be something along those lines.

Did anyone else get flashbacks to The Phantom Menace when Juliette was talking about midicholrians, er, I mean sperm counts? Some things should just remain mysterious. Like the Force and Jin's super baby batter.

Was nice to see him get his ass kicked by Jin...who was also in the Army before he married. Interesting.

Read the book. Don't think that is what happened. We saw the plane crash from both the survivors point of view and from the ground via the others. The somehow just faked a crash scene. They could have even used real parts of the plane taken off the island, not to mention body parts and bodies.....

The response was to the statement "More questions and no answers."

Or FBT is an Other, or an Other Other, and is lying about the found 815 wreckage for a reason to be revealed in season 9

Welcome to the world. Everyone doesn't speak english.




Sure, we weren't fooled; judging by that last look at Sun, neither was she.




We knew the island has healing virtues, but resurrection properties? Maybe the producers have watched too many Heroes episodes. Then I guess none of the Others are really dead. : rollseyes : There.




I thought Sun was gonna' kick some tonight. She doesn't fully trust Juliet, so it's not too late. For a minute there, I really thought she would slam the hatch shut on Jules.

I was really hoping that during the recording Sun was going to hit her on the head with an iron bar or something. Or at the least sneak after her to find out what she was up to.

Not enough paranoia going on in the Losties camp. Where's Sayid when you need him?

I was doubly disappointed with the Russian. First they brought him back, and just when I thought it might be a smoke apparition it just turns out it's actually him. So much for the brutal death at the hands of the sonic wall. By bringing him back they've made that sonic wall less dramatic as well.

That right there is the quote of this thread so far...hilarious!

I did see your rolleyes, but just to point it out...the losties came across Goodwin, days (weeks?) after AL killed him...I don't think he is coming back to life.

Again, the "rules" they seem to have set up are: if you're actually dead, you're really dead. Gunshots to the chest seem to do it. But if you're merely almost dead, you can heal - fast. Up to a certain point of course - for example, Boone's and the Marshal's injuries were too extensive for them to heal, even with the Island's "help". But broken bones, cancer, paralysis, busted eardrums from the sonic fence? No worries, Mate. Look at how quickly Sawyer heals up from all his beatdowns, gunshot wounds, etc.

My coworker just came by to tell me he had an epiphany after last night's episode that, he believes, explains the whole mystery of "Lost." I've never seen the theory discussed here in quite the same way as he related it. At first glance, I don't see many holes in his theory, so I'll put it to the forum to pick holes in it. Sorry it's a bit long, but I think it's worth your time.

OK, here's the theory: Everyone DID die in the crash of 815, at least to the outside world. There was objectively verifiable plane debris, dead bodies, etc. However, the crash was caused by the magnetic field surrounding the island. This magnetic energy has a magical power that is able to regenerate any "survivors" into essentially "super-human" clones of their former selves. By super-human, I mean faster healing powers, etc. Think generally Pet Semetary, but you don't necessarily come back evil. These "new" versions of everyone are very much alive, and if they could get off the island, they could fully interact with the outside world, nothwithstanding some pretty awkward convincing of people in the outside world that you're actually still alive. These "new versions" are still human and can die (permanently), so long as their death is not directly caused by the island's "power." See Boone, Ana Lucia, Ethan, etc. Oh, the BIG catch with being super-human is that you cannot reproduce.

Dying is the perfect explanation for Ethan's comment that the last leg of Juliet's voyage to the island would be a bit "rough" or "bumpy" or whatever. He knew darn well that it would "kill" everyone making the voyage, but that they'd be safely reincarnated on the island.

Understanding this premise explains so much: (1) Claire and Aaron "survived" and are healthy now because they both "died" due to the plane crash and both were reincarnated; (2) Sun died and was reincarnated, but because she was not pregnant at the time of the crash, now cannot reproduce; (3) the FBT actually did die by crashing into the island's energy field offshore, and the version of her found in the tree is her superhuman self--that's why she will be able to heal so quickly; (4) Mikhael (the Russian, not Michael) said "thank you" when he was pushed into the security barrier because he knew he would die and be reincarnated in a higher form (and could get away from Kate et al.); (5) Juliet's sister actually was cured of cancer, as Ben promised, because Ben brought her to the island, "killed" her in doing so, allowing her (and the unborn baby) to be reincarnated as her super-self now cancer free, and then returned back to the outside world; (6) Locke regaining his ability to walk; (7) Rose being cured of her inoperable disease. The list is nearly endless.

Smokey is the embodibent of everyone's past evils. Locke was able to stare it down early in season one because he had committed his soul to becoming good. Eko, OTOH, was killed because he wavered.

The "beacon" that Ben mentions is the only way to find this island. The island does exist, but it cannot be seen unless you know exactly where to look.

OK, where are the flaws in this theory?

Interesting, but the "magical" reincarnation part is where it breaks down for me. That's so far out of the "scientific" mainstream, and the producers have stated that the answers to the show's mysteries are at least grounded in plausible science. It would be a total copout to have everything explained by magic, or some mystical force that has no basis in the natural world.

Now, that said, rips in the space-time continuum, wormholes, etc. are pretty far-fetched as well, but at least they're grounded in speculative science and possible "natural" phenomena. Reincarnation or instant full-grown cloning, not so much.

Maybe "magical" is not the best word for it. Perhaps "electromagnetic" is better.

Well I don't think there's any doubt at this point that there's something about the island that has regenerative properties, but all of them being dead and reincarnated seems too out there. Plus it doesn't explain the numbers or Desmond and his futureboy abilities or the "magic box" effects.

I'd go with the Others (and their outside friends) just planting the wreckage and bodies for the NTSB to find.

I sent a link to this thread to my coworker (I swear, there really is a coworker!), and he says the numbers are what controls the electromagnetic field. The visionary thing is simply one of the new potential abilities that a Lostie can pick up during the regeneration process. Same goes for the unique ability to "conjure" other things, i.e., Jack seeing his dad, Sawyer's horse, Shannon and Sayid seeing Walt, Locke seeing his dad, etc.

Like the Princess Bride...."He's only MOSTLY dead!"

The clone theory goes WAAAAY back to Season 1 page 10 or something along those lines. Some wackjob named Iteki was obsessed with it :-)