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That would actually be the greatest finale ever...except have it all be a dream Bob Newhart had...

It was apparent that the writers had planned some major signifigance for Walt early on....but that pesky thing we call puberty got in the way.

They should have know that was likely happen and shot some scenes in advance while they knew they had him looking the same age. Either that, or they should have cast someone younger - or a bit older who had already hit their growth spurt.

James Cameron ran into the same problem on T2. Edward Furlong had to loop a lot of dialog from before his voice changed.

It was also an issue with all the kids getting shorter and taller than each other in "The Sound of Music". There was a lot of standing on apple crates and stepping down into holes on that one.

Of course, it was likely a mistake to cast an adolescent child on a series that takes an entire season to only progress a couple months without a plan to deal with that very issue.

When they cast Walt they didn't think they would even get past 13 episodes, let alone 6 seasons. Damon says this in the recent interview with Kevin Pollack.

Then they have no one to blame but themselves.

No one said they were obligated to unpack their suitcases or anything, but they should have had a plan in mind of how to deal with a young boy in the cast where it would be very hard to maintain continuity if his appearance changes over summer vacation.

If they had a plan for Walt, they should have had a backup plan. If the series didn't make it, they'd have an idea they could impliment into another show in the future.

I don't know how long I'll end up living in my apartment, but you can bet I own a fire extinquisher in case something happens while I'm there.

That was my point above.

fafner

Agreed 100%.

Any show is going to have both minor and major changes along the way, but this was much more than that. This was a change (discovery?) of what the entire over-arching plot of the show was.

You look at a show like Babylon 5. After season 1 they completely changed who the main character was, gave an alternate side story to the original main character, and went from there. That's a major change. But still, from the very beginning of the show, they knew that the over arching plot was that there were two uber powerful races using the other races as pawns to fight their ideological war over how the galaxy should be run (order vs chaos) and in the end those races would move on and leave the smaller races to take their place.

There were hints of these things all over the early seasons, and you could see them build up to it at a reasonable pace that made sense.

Then you compare it to Lost. I'm sorry, but when they were filming season 1 there was NO WAY they knew that it was going to eventually develop into two uber powerful beings, one of which was trying to find a replacement to protect the secret cave of light, etc.

Even when they introduced those characters they didn't know that. I'd stake any amount of money that when they first introduced the smoke monster they didn't already know he was some all powerful evil guy who was fighting his long lost brother to try and leave the island. Same thing with Jacob. Even when they eventually introduced him, it was just as some mysterious boss that they would figure out what to do with later.

You could tell from the pacing. They were barely involved, didn't really give any hints into what they actually were, and then all of the sudden BAM, right at the end of the show they're suddenly the two most important characters and the whole show revolves around their little story that had very little to do with the other 5 seasons of the show.

Well said. I have a feeling by S6, the writers were jaded, had ran out of ideas and felt like just wanted it to be over. The last season was quite haphazard with the story flowing in every which direction.
I am most disappointed with Jacob's character. He is the most wimpiest, characterless character I have seen. All through the series he was made out to be all powerful, the final answer to all questions and the ultimate rule maker. When his ashes were about to be burnt out (burning the ashes???), he has like under 5 minutes to clear all the questions from his 'candidates' - the scene which we all viewers were waiting for several years - what were his words?
"I don't know where to begin"

Throughout the series, "The List" was very prominent. Somebody on the list was never to be touched, harmed in any way.

Kate: Why I am not on the list?
Jacob: You want the job? You just have to ask and it's yours. And anybody doesn't want to be on the list, I can remove them.
!!!! ?????
Easy come, easy go. So much for the all "important" list.

I'm more disappointed with how Ben turned out. He went from this ice cold MF'er that could take a licking and keep on ticking people off....to the equivalent of a puppy that got smacked with a newspaper for peeing on the carpet.

Second in line was Charles Widmore suddenly having nothing to do but scowl a lot.

CW went out like a chump and didn't even get to use his awesome sonic fence! What the fr@k!?

The "Boba Fett" of LOST, would you say?

Just read an interview about how the show came to be--title is misleading a bit.

http://news.yahoo.com/lost-writer-gi...185759431.html

Edit: wasn't an interview, it was a keynote address for something.

Three cheers for AVSforum and all the other LOST forums!

Thanks for the link!

LOL, that's awesome. I love it when they make fun of the indignant whiners who will never get it, or understand that they themselves are responsible for building up their expectations to ridiculous extreme due to their fanatical, unending obsession with figuring all the details out. Even when they were told over and over again throughout that the show was primarily about the characters and their personal journeys... L&C's biggest sin was creating a wrapper so compelling around their core story that many people went bananas over it and "lost" all perspective


ron

About 4 months ago, I watched every episode of every season back-to-back on Netflix. I enjoyed the luxury of not having to wait through an entire summer after a given season's finale.

I enjoyed the series immensely. I had no issue with the series finale either, and found it very moving.

Anyone watch the premier of "Terra Nova" on FOX? We were greatly anticipating this as a family tv show and possibly fill some of the whole left from LOST. I'm wondering what the buzz is from you guys?

We enjoyed it on some levels. I think my six year old boys are going to be entranced. But I was left feeling that it was just following the formula. Story lines didn't seem overly rich. Acting was below average by todays television standards. But they sure did throw some money at it!

LOST didn't let too much mystery out in the first episode either (just the thing in the jungle). So maybe there's still hope for Terra Nova? I was disappointed that they let so much info into the trailer for "what's coming this year". I feel like I can see where its going already. LOST didn't do that! For sure.

By the way, still haven't rewatched. I've got the Bluray set, but the emotion hasn't hit me yet to jump in. Like MikeKlem did, I want to run it all the way through fairly quickly when I do commit to watching.

I see Terra Nova following the same timeline as pretty much every serialized primetime network show nowadays.

1. Solid start, decent ratings
2. Things start to lull in the middle as the show focuses on lame, poorly done character drama and diverts from the main plotline. Ratings take a dive.
3. Show goes on hiatus for a few months
4. Show comes back with a bang, focusing on the main story and fans that stayed loyal love it
5. Unfortunately, they lost too many viewers during the poor character drama parts and hiatus and the show gets canceled without any resolution while the internet is filled with rage about how the show has finally hit its stride.

From all I've read (albeit, not much), the evidence so far is that Terra Nova is mapped out to be a fairly mindless entertainment show with cool effects by television standards. The human interest stuff is pretty weak, with cliched family situations, tired dialog, etc. Hardly the aspirations of Lost (beyond a desire to match the Lost phenomenon for intense interest level).

I've seen 'Terra Nova' and I've seen LOST. Terra Nova, you're no LOST.

I can't believe this thread is still active! I had mixed feelings about the Lost finale at the time. Like many, I demanded answers and felt cheated after investing so much into the show. But looking back shortly afterwards, I realized the answers didn't really matter - the experience of Lost and the memories are what made it so great.

Little moments like Jack and Locke meeting at LAX, Desmond and Penny in The Constant, the Walkabout reveal, Charlie's greatest moments, 'we have to go back!' and many many others - these wouldn't have nearly the impact if we didn't like the characters so much.

Watching garbage like Tera Nova, Falling Skies just reinforces how great Lost was.

Hmm. Sounds like "Human Target". Also cancelled.

TV Notes
'Lost' Showrunner Carlton Cuse Joining A&E's 'Bates Motel'
By Borys Kit, The Holywood Reporter's 'Heat Vision' Blog - Mar. 9, 2012

EXCLUSIVE: Carlton Cuse, who along with Damon Lindelof executive produced and acted as showrunners of ABC's Lost, is boarding A&E's The Bates Motel.

A&E is developing the series, being produced by Mark Wolper and Roy Lee, as a prequel to Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho. The 1960 horror classic featured an off-his-rocker motel manager named Norman Bates who murdered occasional boarders while under the watch of his even-more-psychotic mother.

Bates Motel aims to tell the story of a young Bates and how his life with his deranged mother and her lover unhinged his mind, eventually turning him into a serial killer. It has been described as a cross between Twin Peaks and Smallville.

If the show is picked up to series, Cuse will executive produce and oversee the writing and production what is being envisioned intially as a six-episode event" that would lead to additional seasons. It also marks the first genre TV project for Cuse since his acclaimed run on Lost.

Kerry Ehrin, who worked on Friday NIght Lights and Parenthood, also is joining Bates Motel as a writer/EP and will work with Cuse.

A&E is hoping the series can do for it what zombie drama The Walking Dead did for AMC, generating top ratings while initiating online water-cooler conversations.

Post-Lost, Cuse, with his Carlton Cuse Productions banner, is working in both TV and features. He recently turned in a draft of an untitled action-adventure for Hugh Jackman and Shawn Levy's 21 Laps for Fox.

Cuse is repped by WME and Del Shaw Moonves Tanaka Finkelstein & Lezcano.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...use-a-e-298201

Gotta love a guy who has good perspective. A little related to LOST,, but this interview with DL about his work on Prometheus and the movie itself is a good read.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/05/1...fe-after-lost/


ron

Gotta love a guy who has perspective. A little related to LOST, this interview with DL also has lots of good info about his work on Prometheus and the movie itself.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/05/1...fe-after-lost/


ron

I didn't know he had anything to do with writing Prometheus.

I also didn't know he had anything to do with writing Cowboys & Aliens.

Considering that train wreck (and Lost's unevenness/train wreck-finale) I suddenly have lowered expectations for Prometheus.

Ahhh, the haters never truly die do they. May I suggest you stay home and save your time and money then .


ron

Hey, the LOST thread! It's kind of like an old friend dropping by.

The thing I find so strange about Lindelof is that he seems untroubled, even amused, by all the fuss. Cuse, too. They spent 5 years building this elaborate world and it's not like they couldn't have polished it off in a way that respected what had come before. What long-time LOST nerd hasn't imagined how it might have gone down if DHARMA and the Island's history had been the prime focus in S-6 instead of glowy caves and magic wine? (Well, maybe it was just me )

Instead, it's like after all that, with all the expectations that they themselves had built up, they were watching the clock, it was almost quittin' time, and they just threw something together with enough MacGuffins to get 'em out the door before anyone caught on. It does make me question the value of any of their future work or whether it would be worth the investment, particularly Lindelof since he was the "idea guy".

But it's not just us fans who can't get over it, Ron. Look at what's happened to this poor guy.

As long as Ridley Scott's directing there's always hope.

And I like how I'm a hater because I didn't like a poorly written show. Yeah...that's reasonable. lol

I gotta admit, it does give me pause. Cowboys vs Aliens was terrible.