Wow amazing to see this thread resurrected two years later
Originally Posted by jwebb1970
Originally Posted by FreeBaGeL
It would be interesting to hear an interview with the show runners where they had to be truthful, and to find out if they really did originally go into things with the idea that it would end up being purgatory.
The linked video interview w/ Damon Lindelof posted here a couple days back sorta does that...at least DL states that it was a bit of a bummer in S1 when fans speculated about "purgatory". He gives the sense that the events or at least the basic gist of what was to become S6 was at least partially sketched out that early on.
DL also states in the same interview that his least fave episode was in fact Across The Sea
from S6 (intro to the magic cave & Allison Janney).
I watched that interview this weekend, and I agree. The difference in enthusiasm that DL showed for the purgatory story vs. the real story was really striking. It's clear they very much wanted to do the purgatory story, and that makes it very hard to believe that purgatory would not have been the whole story had the series been canceled in the first couple of seasons.
Originally Posted by archiguy
But any form of purgatory should have been off the table since the producers specifically
denied it, while at the same time strongly suggesting there were [pseudo]scientific explanations for all of it. And mostly because purgatory is a really lame duex ex machina to end such an ambitious series with.
But if you're doing a mystery series and you don't know how many episodes it's going to run, and you want to have an ending you can throw on at any point to wrap things up, it's going to have to be some kind of deus ex machina, isn't it?
I mean, it's not like they could have thrown the glowy light in the cave into the finale on short notice. They had 3 years to set that up and it still felt forced.
But the church scene with Jack and his dad could have easily been worked into any season finale to turn it into a series finale, because that scene was a perfect answer to the question the Losties asked at the end of the pilot, i.e. Where are we?
Again, I maintain they could have done it better had they focused on their core storylines. It's like they had established a reputation for innovative ways to tell the story that "shook it up" every season with flash forwards and backwards, and going sideways seemed to be the only thing they hadn't tried yet. It might have sounded great in the writers' room, but once they were committed, they had to somehow make it work and all the "good stuff" got left on the sideline while they tried to work the sideways Purgatory angle out. Ultimately, that decision was an epic fail. It tarnished the whole series as a result.
Except this is not the way it happened. They didn't start doing different types of flashes until after they had a series end date. Prior to that, they stuck with flashbacks and ever more island mysteries.
Once they agreed during season 3 to do three additional seasons, they settled on a flash forward season, a time travel season, and a flash sideways season. Those three seasons clearly fit together. They needed the flash forwards to have something to go sideways from, and they needed the time travel story to misdirect the audience from the true meaning of the sideways universe.
Now you might argue and I might agree that in season 6, the sideways universe could have been saved for just the last two or three episodes, as one final mind blowing mystery right before the finale, which would have allowed more time to resolve island mysteries, and that might have made for a much better show and still allowed the producers to use their precious purgatory ending. But it's clear from the referenced interview that the purgatory story was very important to them, and that's obviously why they gave it as much time as they did.
When you put it all together, it seems that the creators of Lost
never really wanted to do a sci-fi, Star Trek
type show. What they wanted to do was more of a Twilight Zone
type show, but the fans made it clear they didn't want to watch dead people for multiple seasons, and so a change in direction was required. Because at the end of the day, fan interest is what keeps the bills paid and the lights on, and you can only take artistic arrogance so far.
Still, it's hard not to consider that the quality of writing, or lack thereof, in the season 6 island story, was partly a passive aggressive manifestation of the producers' resentment toward the sci-fi fan base for forcing them to at least partly repudiate the story they had originally intended to tell.
Originally Posted by bpeacock22
Damon Lindelof said in a tweet today, "LOST died two years ago today. And it was not dead the whole time... I promise. Thanks for remembering, gang."
Hope that puts any debate about them being dead the whole show to rest. Yes, during last season; no, the whole show. Silly notion...
More like dead in season 1, then resurrected in, let us say, the third season, and then dead again, and yet again risen, at the end.
I mean, what a strange tweet. How can you make a promise about the past? Is there perhaps a smoking gun original script locked away in a safe somewhere, and is he promising it will never see the light of day?