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The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. We can all each have a set fate, yet make descisions that can change how we get there.

The easiest example I can give actually has to do with the editing equipment I'm sitting in front of as I type this (well, OK, technically it's off to the side of the computer I'm sitting in front of...).

The fate of the video I cut is to have a certain set of shots of specific length and conforming to proper video and audio standards. It has to end up that way to meet the requirements of the show I'm working on. It would seem there is only one way to get to that outcome.

The opposite is true, though. The manufacturers of said equipment have seen to given me the God-like ability to pick any one of 10 ways to cut the shots together, color correct them and adjust the audio. It will all end up looking the way it's supposed to, but I can pick any route to get there.

That's how I see the mythology of "Lost" being. You have a set eventual outcome. Charlie was destined to die, for example. However, there appeared to be several alternatives presented by his and Desmond's actions to lead to that result.

So, the characters' fates are all sealed. There is an eventuality and purpose to each person. However, they can alter the path they take to get there or outside forces can do it, much like water flowing down to a stream. A small rock or mound of dirt can alter the flow of the water, but it eventually gets to the stream.

If only all TV were this good....

....most people would probably go out and club each other for lack of reality TV...

This had nothing to do with my theory. This was my sincere attempt to understand timing issues.
I have already said my theory can't explain timing issues.

Yeah, I've been getting a similar sense, which led to throwing this onto the table for dissection and consumption. The writers on this show are a very intelligent bunch, and I'll bet there's a fair amount of disagreement, especially when they get into the bigger issues like this.

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Palladin

Chance favors the prepared mind

Ah, but there's the rub. In each of the examples which were discussed in the previous posts, there is nothing remotely resembling a level playing field. No compelling incentive to resist predetermination. Predetrmination has essentially placed a 'lock' on the game, and thereby undermined the characters disposition toward free will. Choice, the very hallmark of free will, is essentially being forced to run the race hobbled.

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Palladin

Chance favors the prepared mind

"You people have therapists?"
"It's really stressful being an Other, Jack."

"Red Sox?"
"I taped over the game..."

Blasphemy !!

Of course, I have to wonder (unless that recording was made in the 90's), who would use VHS to make camcorder recordings? It's not all that "stealthy"...

Of course, these are the same people who use ancient computers to control vital control systems...

"See you guys at dinner..."

:d

I can't believe this was the follow-up to last week. Last week's episode was genius. This week? Not so much.

Tonight's episode was okay. Ben saying that he owns Juliet was creepy.

I was waiting for Ben to tell Locke who his person on the freighter was but that did not happen. Guess we will have to wait until next week.

Charles Widmore owns the freighter and has been looking for the island to exploit it.

Here's a photo from tonights episode that everybody will be asking for:

Juliet reminds Jack of his ex wife, Juliet looks just like Ben's wife?!?! Hmm


DJoel

Calling it "okay" is pretty generous IMO. It was another filler episode.

I would have done the same thing


Djoel

Have to agree, definitely filler ep. Here's my questions about lost:

Why does Kate keep trying to save the day? She always gets caught/busted/owned.
Why do people insist on turning their back on people? (Harper then Juliette)
Why couldn't Desmond just make Faraday his constant?
How can a show get away with 5 min commercials followed by 5 mins of content?
Why does a comm officer rely on dying batteries in a room that obviously has power. (shoulda been some kind of way to pull 52v talk battery off of something)
Why does the Ben lookalike at the auction disappear in the rear shot of the room?

These questions are just as important as the smoke monster, the 4 toed statue, Jacob's cabin, and what Locke saw back in season something that was such a surprise.

Ben sure has a dry sense of humor.... :-)


SPOOKY how he sees Juliet as his property...wtf is going on there? I'm assuming she reminds me of the little girlfriend from his childhood. Did he kill her off with the rest of Dharma?

Not sure I agree there...last weeks ep set such a high standard (as do most eps that feature Desmond)...I think we'd be let down by almost any ep.

Now, I know it's only speculation....but how many episodes do we have to wait for them to tell us it's Michael or Walt on the boat...come on!!

I liked last week better as well, but I think this week was better than filler.

-- Confirmation that C. Widmore is the backer of the freighter.
-- death gas came from the tempest station
-- whisper noises are related to the others moving around (teleporting?, for lack of a better term). The tailies were onto something there

much better than a filler episode.

Beware: don't click on the photo.

why, captured on the wrong frame, makes face look unflattering?

I think they've pretty well given this "secret" away by now. But I won't type it out here, since someone might consider it a spoiler.

UGH!!

That reminds me of when I worked in the toy department at a E.J-Korvette's as temp help during X-mas time while in high school. They could not keep those dolls in stock.

http://www.dollinfo.com/icrissyfam.htm


But none of them looked like Des....

I think the episode was good, not as great as last week, but still filled with information. Not sure why nobody talks about the 8oclock episode, but alot of the questions everyone has been talking about were addressed. They did say that Desmond was teleporting back and forth from 96 to 2004. They also did clarify that it was 8 years, and that time is deff different on the island. They also said that there was a HANSO that was the captain of the BLACK ROCK ship, and that his distant cousin had the book, and that cousin is cousins with ALVARO HANSO of the HANSO CORP. They also stated that we should know that the scenes where Desmond was teleporting were as such instead of BACKSTORIEs because there was no SWOOSHING SOUND before the scene. I always heard the noise but didnt think it was any different. In tonites episode with Juliettes stories, the 1st scene i was like, is this is FF, BS or other, until i rewond and heard the SWOOSH and knew it was a BS. They also stated that they are using the #s again. ANyone else get any othr info.
I think we all know who the SPY is, but damm was i pissed that they didnt reveal it tonite. WHat pisses me off is that we know that BEN is bad, and now know that CS LEWIS and Daniel Faraday were trying to stop the GAS and STOP BEN, but BEN gets off the ISLAND, so does that mean that the rest of the freigter people are goin to DIE!! GOnna be a long STRANGE TRIP!/
wg

Hard to follow last week's episode but I didn't think this was filler. It was definitely an in-betweener but at least they kept the main storyline moving along with the gas mask explanation and some punching and Widmore revealtions.

Now the flashback, that was fillerish.

I can't buy Sawyer and Hurley living together and playing horseshoes though. It feels odd. Like it's the pilot for an odd-couple type sitcom. Chubby, sensitive, multi-millionaire moves in with charming, good looking rogue. Comedy hijinks ensue!

Has Ben met Desmond yet? I can't remember if Ben was confused about why he didn't know who Desmond was or where he came from. If he did know him then he would also know about his Widmore connections.

I wasn't convinced Andrea Roth was real. Why did she just vanish? How did she know what Ben wanted?

The smoke monster could easily have disappeared and didn't need to know what Ben wanted. It only needed to know where Faraday was heading and what was in Juliet's head. It could say anything to achieve it's own mysterious goals.