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post #12391 of 87198
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Originally Posted by kingpcgeek View Post

I tried to watch it for the first time since the DVR wasn't busy recording 2½ Men & Heroes. It was awful, I turned it after less then 10 minutes.

You know, I have watched all the episodes and it is really failing to grab focus, I think it is selling to "dumber" tv viewers, not people like us on AVS, who are big into smart comedy The Big Bang Theory..... These "dumber" tv viewers are not as likely have DVRs, and/or try in any way to catch their shows, they just watch tv for a little time spent "feeling" like they are better then the rest of the population.....
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Originally Posted by gjvrieze View Post

You know, I have watched all the episodes and it is really failing to grab focus, I think it is selling to "dumber" tv viewers, not people like us on AVS, who are big into smart comedy The Big Bang Theory..... These "dumber" tv viewers are not as likely have DVRs, and/or try in any way to catch their shows, they just watch tv for a little time spent "feeling" like they are better then the rest of the population.....

I'm not sure what failing to grab focus is, but I liked the first several eps, but it isn't holding my attention lately,(I guess that's the same thing as focus ) .. It's funny to me how so much is blamed on the lead in not being there, whereas sometimes the shows just aren't as good or the novelty wears off.
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Originally Posted by PJO1966 View Post

I had heard a rumor (from a fairly reliable source) that the Superbowl was going to be in 3D HD this year. Is there anything to substantiate that?

Yep - but you'll need to get a ticket.
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lol...
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Originally Posted by gjvrieze View Post

You know, I have watched all the episodes and it is really failing to grab focus, I think it is selling to "dumber" tv viewers, not people like us on AVS, who are big into smart comedy The Big Bang Theory..... These "dumber" tv viewers are not as likely have DVRs, and/or try in any way to catch their shows, they just watch tv for a little time spent "feeling" like they are better then the rest of the population.....

You call The Big Bang Theory "smart"?!? It's just a typical sitcom. Stereotyped characters, stupid jokes, laugh track. Two and a Half Men is the same.

I can't stand either, but I'm enjoying Samantha Who?...
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Thread Starter 
Tuesday's fast affiliate and metered market prime-time ratings (including the 18-49 demographic estimates) have been posted near the top of Ratings News -- the second post in this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post10367387
post #12397 of 87198
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WGA Strike Notes
Writers union feeling the heat
Leaders are admonished to refocus on the key issue: Web revenue. Talks with directors could play a role.
By Richard Verrier and Claudia Eller Los Angeles Times Staff Writers December 12, 2007

The Writers Guild of America is under new and mounting pressure from its ranks to get back to the bargaining table.

A number of union members are unhappy that the negotiations with the major Hollywood studios that broke off Friday night were sidetracked by issues secondary to the one the writers see as central: how they will be paid when their work shows up on the Internet.

Six weeks into a costly strike, they're pressing union leaders to get the talks back on track -- and fast -- fearful that the Directors Guild of America might open its own contract negotiations with the Hollywood studios as early as next week.

That could undermine the writers' leverage, because the directors might not make all the demands that the writers have made. The writers don't want another union to set their agenda.

Among the writers urging fresh talks are some of the guild's most powerful members, those responsible for the day-to-day operations of popular TV shows, which are quickly running out of original episodes.

One group of those show runners met with guild officials Tuesday to air their concerns, and another is set to meet with them today. Members of the negotiating committee plan to meet with strikers on the picket lines, hoping to calm fears.

Jeff Hermanson, assistant executive director of the Writers Guild of America, West, said the guild had not received many complaints from members and accused the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers of trying to create the impression that there was a schism.

"This is a democratic organization in which we value the input and opinions of our members," Hermanson said. "When the issues are explained to them, they understand this is a ploy by the AMPTP in an effort to divide us."

For its part, the directors guild has scheduled a meeting tonight at its headquarters on Sunset Boulevard to brief members on the leadership's negotiating strategy. That guild is expected to inform the studios as early as Thursday when it will be ready to begin formal talks, according to one senior studio executive.

The directors, whose contract expires June 30, have historically sealed their deals early. They have been waiting in deference to the striking writers.

Now, with the writers and studios deadlocked, the directors are expected to move forward.

Last week, more than 300 writer-directors, who are caught in the middle as members of both unions, urged leaders of the directors guild to continue holding off until writers could resolve their dispute.

The writers and studios haven't scheduled new talks. The climate seems to be more poisonous than ever.

On Monday, for example, each side accused the other of lying about its respective position and what had triggered last week's impasse.

Friday's breakdown came after the studios made good on their threat to stop talking if the writers didn't take off the table half a dozen issues the studios saw as nonstarters. They included a demand to extend the union's jurisdiction to writers of animated movies and reality TV shows and to include in the contract a so-called sympathy strike measure that would allow writers to honor the picket lines of other unions without fear of reprisals from their employers.

Hermanson noted that the issues the studios demanded be removed from the table included one that was key to the writers' proposal on Internet residuals. He said that the studios negotiated in bad faith and that the writers refused to give in to an ultimatum.

He and guild leaders complained that the studios' "new economic partnership" proposals were only modest improvements over what they originally offered Nov. 4, the day before the walkout.

Studios maintained they made a generous offer, which they valued at about $130 million, a figure disputed by the guild.

"These talks broke down over the WGA's insistence on jurisdictional demands, that everything has to do with expanding the power of the union's organizing and very little has to do with the needs and demands of working writers," said Jesse Hiestand, studio alliance spokesman.

Still, some writers -- including die-hard strike supporters -- are angry at Patric M. Verrone, president of the Writers Guild of America, West, and chief negotiator David Young, saying they allowed the talks to drift into less important issues, according to several guild members, some of whom asked not to be identified for fear of reprisals from the union.

Writer Craig Mazin, a former board member and frequent critic of union leaders, called some of the additional demands, such as jurisdiction over feature animation and reality TV, misguided and not achievable.

"New media is the only thing that matters," Mazin said, who also has been sharply critical of the studios' proposals. "It's what the leadership went on strike for."

Those sentiments are shared by a number of writers, including some on the picket lines, who have complained directly to their union leaders about taking the focus off new media.

"There is a growing group of writers who are burning up over this," said one top writer and strong supporter of the strike who asked not to be identified.

That impression was further fueled by the guild's decision to go ahead with a previously scheduled rally in Burbank on Friday -- the same day the talks broke down -- to call attention to working conditions of writers working on reality TV and game shows.

At the rally, Verrone reminded the crowd that jurisdiction over reality shows was always part of the union's demands. "It will be in our next contract," he said.

On Monday, members of the guild's negotiating committee debated intensely about the timing of the rally and how to respond to the criticism -- and assure members that their focus remained on new-media pay, people who attended the meeting said.

How to get paid for their work that appears on the Internet also is important to the directors, who have been discussing that issue for months with the studios. In contrast to the writers, directors and studios have historically enjoyed a more cordial relationship and far less contentious labor negotiations.

But the directors won't be pushovers when it comes to issues of new-media pay. They have many of the same concerns on that front as writers do.

Nonetheless, they are expected to be more flexible on terms and more sympathetic to studio arguments that Internet-related businesses are still in the formative stages and that there are many uncertainties about where and how soon those future revenues will pour in.

The Directors Guild has spent more than $1 million to study those very questions, hiring two outside firms to prepare a detailed report on new media. The findings will be presented at tonight's meeting.

"Oddly, we've been preparing for this negotiation for well over a year," said Gilbert Cates, chief negotiator for the directors. The alliance is "tough, rough and nervous because they don't know what the future holds. We all want a piece of the Internet; the difference is the tactics that we use to get it."

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...la-home-center
post #12398 of 87198
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TV Notes
Time's about up for 'Journeyman'
By Nellie Andreeva The Hollywood Reporter Dec 12, 2007

The journey is coming to an end for NBC's freshman series "Journeyman."

NBC had until Tuesday to give a full-season pickup to the time-travel drama starring KevinMcKidd. The network let that option lapse, practically canceling the 20th Century Fox TV-produced series, which posted its lowest adults 18-49 rating (1.7 rating/8 share) on Monday without a "Heroes" lead-in. The network already tried out "Life" in "Journeyman'"s Monday 10 p.m. slot last week.

Despite the writers strike, "Journeyman" was able to complete its 13-episode order.

The remaining two original segments will air as scheduled, an NBC spokeswoman said.

NBC recently handed out full-season pickups to two of its four rookie scripted series, "Life" and "Chuck."

Since the production of most scripted series has been suspended because of the strike, such orders are considered a vote of confidence to the shows and a potential renewal for next season if the additional episodes can't be produced by the end of this season.

In limbo is the fate of the fourth new NBC series, the once-promising "Bionic Woman," which has been sliding in the ratings since its premiere.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...e07db6eb9dc75b
post #12399 of 87198
Thread Starter 
Overnight Nielsens in the 18-49 Demo
Reality check: Two give NBC the night
Averages a 3.0 in 18-49s with fresh episodes
By Toni Fitzgerald MediaLifeMagazine.com staff writer Wednesday, December 12, 2007

On another slow night for the broadcast networks, NBC’s double shot of unscripted programs, back-to-back original episodes of “Deal or No Deal” and “The Biggest Loser,” lifted the network to a nightly win. A double shot of CBS’s new drama “Cane” wasn’t as successful.

NBC averaged a 3.0 adults 18-49 rating and an 8 share, according to Nielsen overnights, just edging rerun-laden Fox for No. 1 on a very slow evening.

“Loser” was the night’s highest-rated show, averaging a 3.6 at 9 p.m. for its penultimate episode of the season, granted against limited competition. “Cane” was the only other original Big Five show in the hour, and it averaged a mere 1.9 rating, a few ticks off its season-to-date average of 2.1.

“Cane” improved a tad at 10 p.m., to a 2.0, but it did not do the sort of numbers that will convince CBS to keep it around. Both episodes drew fewer than 8 million total viewers.

Meanwhile, NBC’s three-night special edition of “Deal” continued to do well against light competition, averaging a 3.1 at 8 p.m. It finished second in the timeslot, just behind ABC’s reruns of “Shrek the Halls” and “Winnie the Pooh and Christmas Too.”

Fox was second for the night among viewers 18-49, averaging a 2.8 overnight rating and an 8 share, followed by ABC in third at 2.6/7, CBS fourth at 2.1/6, Univision fifth at 1.3/4 and CW sixth at 1.0/3.

ABC began the night in the lead with a 3.2 average rating at 8 p.m. for re-airings of “Shrek” and “Pooh.” NBC was second with a 3.1 for “Deal,” CBS third with a 2.5 for a repeat of “NCIS,” Fox fourth with a 2.0 for a “Bones” rerun, Univision fifth with a 1.2 for “Amar sin Limites” and CW sixth with a 0.8 for a repeat of “America’s Next Top Model.”

At 9 p.m. NBC took the lead with a 3.6 for “Biggest,” followed closely by Fox with a 3.5 for a repeat of “House.” CBS and ABC tied for third that hour at 1.9, CBS for “Cane” and ABC for repeats of “According to Jim,” with Univision fifth with a 1.4 for “Pasion” and CW sixth with a 1.3 for a re-airing of last week’s “Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show,” which originally aired on sister network CBS.

ABC jumped back to first at 10 p.m. with a 2.5 for “Boston Legal,” with NBC second with a 2.4 for a “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit” rerun. CBS was third with a 2.0 for another episode of “Cane” and Univision fourth with a 1.3 for “Ver para Creer.”

Among households, CBS and NBC tied for first place for the night, each with a 6.1 average overnight rating and a 10 share. Fox was third at 5.2/8, ABC fourth at 4.9/8, Univision fifth at 1.8/3 and CW sixth at 1.7/3.

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art..._the_night.asp
post #12400 of 87198
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Originally Posted by PJO1966 View Post

I had heard a rumor (from a fairly reliable source) that the Superbowl was going to be in 3D HD this year. Is there anything to substantiate that?

David Hill, Pres of FOX Sports is a HUGE supporter of 3D HD. It could be true.
post #12401 of 87198
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Originally Posted by PJO1966 View Post

I had heard a rumor (from a fairly reliable source) that the Superbowl was going to be in 3D HD this year. Is there anything to substantiate that?


what is 3d hd ?
post #12402 of 87198
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

what is 3d hd ?

The Superbowl is always in HD. This year they may make it 3D as well. Break out your Beowulf glasses.
post #12403 of 87198
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Originally Posted by MeowMeow View Post

Hey Fred,

Do you know if The Newshour HD will be transmitted through the main PBS HD channel, or will it be up to local affiliates to handle the feed?

After all the fun we've all had with locals not handling NFL games in HD properly, I'm just a tiny bit worried if my local PBS has to handle the feed.

I'm looking at my affiliate's schedule and it doesn't show up, so it doesn't appear to be on the "main" feed. (I hope they simply forgot to update the schedule.)

(Our PBS stations currently air the PBS HD feed, with some exceptions for local events, on their -1 channel and "IPTV Plus" -- primarily "Create" with a preview of other potential multicast channels -- on -2. There is currently no simulcast of the main schedule; you have to go to analog for that.)
post #12404 of 87198
In other news, the FCC has scheduled a meeting for next Tuesday, Dec. 18.

On the tentative agenda: media ownership rules; initiatives to bring small, minority and women-owned businesses into broadcasting; sponsorship identification rules with regard to "embedded advertising"; a proposed rule dealing with broadcast localism; and horizontal and potential vertical ownership limits for cable.

I feel sorry for any reporters who'll be covering this meeting in person.
post #12405 of 87198
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Originally Posted by PJO1966 View Post

The Superbowl is always in HD. This year they may make it 3D as well. Break out your Beowulf glasses.

Always in HD, as since 2003. SB XXXVI played in 2002 was the last SD Super Bowl (SD Widescreen from FOX).
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I have a brain injury that left me with double vision. I still have 20/20 vision in both eyes, I just can't use them at the same time, so no 3D tv for me!
post #12407 of 87198
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Originally Posted by homcom View Post

Always in HD, as since 2003. SB XXXVI played in 2002 was the last SD Super Bowl (SD Widescreen from FOX).

But FOX did have some ISO 720p cameras there. I have seen the footage.
post #12408 of 87198
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Originally Posted by EJ View Post

I have a brain injury that left me with double vision. I still have 20/20 vision in both eyes, I just can't use them at the same time, so no 3D tv for me!

Love your avatar, brings back a lot of memories.
post #12409 of 87198
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Originally Posted by EJ View Post

I have a brain injury that left me with double vision. I still have 20/20 vision in both eyes, I just can't use them at the same time, so no 3D tv for me!

One would think having double vision would be perfect for 3D. You might not need the glasses. On the other hand, maybe you'd actually see a 6th dimension...
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Thread Starter 
Cable Nielsen Notes
USA Leads Cable's Record-Breaking Year
Network Sets Industry Benchmark For Primetime Viewership
By Linda Moss Multichannel News 12/12/2007

New York -- This year represents a sea change in terms of ratings' records for cable, capped by USA Network landing in the No. 1 spot by delivering the largest number of primetime viewers in the medium's history, Turner Broadcasting's top researcher said Wednesday.

Cable broke nearly a dozen records in 2007, prompting Jack Wakshlag, Turner's chief research officer, to characterize the 12-month period as transformational for cable, with shows like TNT's The Closer and TBS's House of Payne among those shattering former viewing benchmarks.

For example, to date USA has racked up the best total primetime delivery for a cable network in history, with its average of 2.7 million viewers, according to a Turner Research analysis of Nielsen Media Research data.

In addition, 2007 marked the best primetime ever in the adult 18 to 49 demographic for 35 ad-supported cable networks, Wakshlag said during his annual end-of-year ratings briefing for the press at the Time Warner Center in Manhattan.

In another mark, Disney Channel enjoyed the best audience delivery for a movie in cable's history with its High School Musical 2, which attracted 18.6 million viewers on a live plus seven-day total, according to Nielsen data.

Cable also saw its best audience delivery ever for a scripted drama, an original comedy, a football telecast and a post-season baseball telecast, according to Turner.

TNT's The Closer ended the year with the best audience deliveries for both a drama and series in the history of basic cable. The Closer averaged 5.9 million households, or 8.1 million total viewers.

Several TBS original comedies - House of Payne and The Bill Engvall Show - racked up the best deliveries ever for basic-cable comedies, averaging 2.04 million and 2.02 million households, respectively.

This has been a great year for comedy development at TBS, Wakshlag said.

On the sports side, ESPN enjoyed the best football telecast in the history of cable, with its Dec. 3 Monday Night Football game between the New England and Patriots-Baltimore Ravens, which drew 12.5 million households and some 17.5 million viewers.

TBS scored the best post-season baseball-ratings performance with its telecast of the fourth game of the Division series game between the Cleveland Indians and New York Yankees, with 6.7 million households.

Two other Turner networks, CNN and Cartoon Network, also broke cable records. CNN registered the biggest audience delivery for a primary debate in the history or cable with its Nov. 28 YouTube Republican debate in Florida, with 4.5 million viewers.

And Cartoon Network's late-night Adult Swim spinoff registered the largest young-adult delivery in the history of cable, with 432,000 adults 18 to 34 and 273,000 men 18 to 34, according to Turner.

http://www.multichannel.com/index.as...leID=CA6512472
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Thread Starter 
TV Notes
NBC Sets Knight Rider debut
(NBC News Release)


BURBANK, Calif. - December 12, 2007 - As "Knight Rider" -- NBC's iconic 1980s television classic that became a runaway success, comes roaring back to life on the network with an updated sequel that will air as a two-hour movie event on Sunday, February 17 (9-11 p.m. ET) -- NBC unveiled the new customized KITT Ford Mustang to be featured in the series in a press event held at NBC's Burbank Studios today.

The movie stars Justin Bruening ("Cold Case," "All My Children"), Deanna Russo ("NCIS," "The Young and the Restless"), Sydney Tamiia Poitier ("Veronica Mars," "Grindhouse") and Bruce Davison ("Breach," "Close to Home"). In addition, David Hasselhoff (NBC's "America's Got Talent") -- who starred in the popular lead role as Michael Knight for four seasons during the original series -- returns as the same character in a special guest-star appearance. Will Arnett (NBC's "30 Rock," "Blades of Glory") will provide the voice of KITT.

Dave Bartis ("Heist," "The O.C.") and Doug Liman ("Mr. and Mrs. Smith," "The Bourne Identity") serve as executive producers.
NBC also has an arrangement with Ford Motor Company that provides for a unique content opportunity that makes the Ford Mustang one of the stars of the movie.

The three cars to be employed in the series include the KITT Hero -- a Ford Mustang Shelby GT500KR that is playing the part of the everyday Hero car with 540 horsepower; the KITT Attack -- a super high-speed version of the Ford Mustang Shelby GT500KR Hero car that transforms into Attack mode with the help of air-ride technology and specialized body parts -- and a KITT Remote, which is a driverless Ford Mustang Shelby GT500KR version of the Hero vehicle.

As the original story resumes, the new KITT (Knight Industries Three Thousand) is absolutely the coolest car ever created: its supercomputer capable of hacking almost any system; its weapons systems efficient; and its body -- thanks to its creator's work and nanotechnology -- is capable of actually shifting shape and color. Plus, its artificial intelligence makes it the ideal crime-fighting partner: logical, precise and possessing infinite knowledge. It is the ultimate car -- and someone will be willing to do anything to obtain it.

Sarah Graiman is a 24-year old Ph.D candidate at Stanford University, following in her genius father Charles' (Davison) footsteps. But when men attempt to abduct her, Sarah receives a mysterious call from KITT warning her that he's a creation of Charles, who also invented the first KITT 25 years ago -- and that her father is in serious danger.

Sarah and KITT track down her best friend from childhood, Mike Tracer (Bruening), a 23-year-old ex-Army Ranger, whom Sarah hasn't seen since he left home at 18. Having served in Iraq, Mike is now jaded and lost and initially resistant. Eventually he agrees to help Sarah and the two set out to discover who's behind the attempt to procure KITT and find Charles. Along the way, Carrie Rivai (Poitier) plays the agile yet tough FBI agent who has a long-standing friendship with Charles and Sarah. Due to those ties, she is brought into the mix to help in the search.
post #12412 of 87198
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Originally Posted by EJ View Post

I have a brain injury that left me with double vision. I still have 20/20 vision in both eyes, I just can't use them at the same time, so no 3D tv for me!

So I'm not the only one. My problem is that until I had eye surgery when I was 2, my eyes didn't have any muscles attached. I was the baby with the evil eye(s). By the time the surgery repaired that, stereoscopic vision was no longer be learnable. I see out of either eye as needed with the image of the other eye acting as an enhanced peripheral vision. I am also focus/move each eye independently. I never lose staring contests. 3D anything has no appeal to me.
post #12413 of 87198
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Originally Posted by dline View Post

I'm looking at my affiliate's schedule and it doesn't show up, so it doesn't appear to be on the "main" feed. (I hope they simply forgot to update the schedule.)

(Our PBS stations currently air the PBS HD feed, with some exceptions for local events, on their -1 channel and "IPTV Plus" -- primarily "Create" with a preview of other potential multicast channels -- on -2. There is currently no simulcast of the main schedule; you have to go to analog for that.)

Create? You poor bastard! My affiliate recently dumped Create for an SD sub of PBS World. The other sub is a simulcast of the analog channel.

What concerns me with my affiliate is that they seem to never do anything besides pipe the main signal for PBS-HD through. So, if they need to switch feeds to get Newshour on, then we're screwed.

It would be nice to have an HD evening newscast besides NBC. Not that NBC's is awful, but I'll take Newshour's lamest hard news over NBC's ten minutes of viewer emails about the anchor's tie choice.
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KITT is a Ford Mustang? They didn't go after the new Camaro? That's incredibly disappointing. Ugh, I bet they go with racing stripes just to complete the disaster.

I like Will Arnett, but am highly skeptical that he's a good fit for the voice of a talking car.
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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

KITT is a Ford Mustang? They didn't go after the new Camaro? That's incredibly disappointing. Ugh, I bet they go with racing stripes just to complete the disaster.

I like Will Arnett, but am highly skeptical that he's a good fit for the voice of a talking car.

Pics of the new KITT

I'm not completely sold.
post #12416 of 87198
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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

I like Will Arnett, but am highly skeptical that he's a good fit for the voice of a talking car.

I agree, but his involvement is the ONLY reason I would consider watching this movie.
post #12417 of 87198
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Originally Posted by deathster View Post

Pics of the new KITT

I'm not completely sold.

I'm not either. I'll watch it, but that Mustang doesn't do much for me and I think there are many better choices out there and something we haven't seen, like the new Camaro, would have been a better choice. But, it's just a car, right???
post #12418 of 87198
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Originally Posted by DoubleDAZ View Post

I'm not either. I'll watch it, but that Mustang doesn't do much for me and I think there are many better choices out there and something we haven't seen, like the new Camaro, would have been a better choice. But, it's just a car, right???

Agreed. That Mustang does not make a good KITT. Mind you, I like the new Mustang as a muscle car, but KITT is supposed to be sleek. New Camero maybe... Keeping it American I think the Corvette would fit best. There are lots of foreign cars that would fit....

xnappo
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Well Ford was willing to supply the vehicles so that is a big reason.
post #12420 of 87198
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Originally Posted by jabbathespud View Post

So I'm not the only one. My problem is that until I had eye surgery when I was 2, my eyes didn't have any muscles attached. I was the baby with the evil eye(s). By the time the surgery repaired that, stereoscopic vision was no longer be learnable. I see out of either eye as needed with the image of the other eye acting as an enhanced peripheral vision. I am also focus/move each eye independently. I never lose staring contests. 3D anything has no appeal to me.

Exact same situation for me. I had two surgeries at age 2 and 3, and lost stereotropic vision. Is your depth perception as bad as mine?
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