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post #39541 of 87865
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

"Banged up a broad"....Didnt Rick Pitino mention that in his presser tonite ?

Oh man!
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Passings
Les Paul, 94
Guitarist was early TV star with wife Mary Ford; his innovations paved the way for rock 'n' roll


My guitar gently weeps.
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Agreed.

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Oh man!
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Late Night Nielsen Notes
Letterman Repeats Top Conan Originals
Dave wins in total viewers, households, but 'Tonight Show' maintains demo lead
By Alex Weprin -- Broadcasting & Cable, 8/13/2009

Repeats of The Late Show with David Letterman topped new episodes of The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien in total viewers and households (albeit by a razor thin margin) for the week ending August 7, according to Nielsen live plus same day data.

Letterman’s Late Show delivered a 2.1/06 household rating and 2.95 million total viewers to The Tonight Show’s 2.0/05 rating and 2.94 million viewers.

NBC was quick to point out that The Tonight Show still won by a sizeable margin in the key demographics, most importantly persons 18-49, which is the demo most-coveted by advertisers.

Although it targets a different demographic and is not a late-night, comedy program, ABC News’ Nightline is relevant when talking about total viewers. Nightline beat both the Late Show and Tonight Show handily among total viewers that week with 3.25 million.

Nightline has been something of a wildcard in the equation, drawing excellent total viewership numbers and P25-54, an effect which could be sapping away viewers from one or both of the comedy shows, though that is hard to quantify.

NBC also pointed out that The Tonight Show is more than 10 years younger than the competition, which it says gives an edge to the Late Show and ABC’s Nightline in total viewers.

“The median age of Conan’s audience last week was 46.8, more than 10 years younger than Letterman’s 57.0 and almost exactly 10 years younger than the 56.7 of ABC’s Nightline,” NBC said.

Still, the win by CBS during an off week has to be a troubling sign for NBC, which should be handily beating the competition when they are in repeats.

Letterman has been making inroads against O’Brien over the past month or so, beating him in total viewers and occasionally some of the older demographics. He has also been closing the gap among P18-49, though is yet to top O’Brien in that demo.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art..._Originals.php
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TV Notes
On The Air Tonight
Some Thursday Prime-Time Cable HD Options


ESPN
8 NFL Preseason football: Arizona at Pittsburgh

Its "Chuckys" debut tonite in the MNF booth so we will see how that goes.
post #39546 of 87865
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

Somebody needs a time out away from inside-Hollywood shenanigans and behind-the-scenes TV glorification with a nice TV-on-DVD Box Set. May I suggest...

OR

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Originally Posted by fredfa View Post

What is on the left? Never much cared for "Sports Night".

I may go back and re enjoy the vastly overhyped yet under appreciated "Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip".

That is the "Studio 60" cast on the left. My, how quickly they forget!
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Originally Posted by fredfa View Post

What is on the left?
I may go back and re enjoy the vastly overhyped yet under appreciated "Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip".

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That is the "Studio 60" cast on the left. My, how quickly they forget!

As i said before fred needs new glasses.
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TV Notes
This CBS News Release has Dad1153’s name all over it….


08.13.2009
CBS's "THE PRICE IS RIGHT" ADDS ADDITIONAL DATES TO ITS FIRST-EVER NATIONAL CONTESTANT SEARCH
Detroit, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New York, Dallas and San Francisco To Join Search
Three Semi-Finalists From Each Participating Market Will Be Flown to Los Angeles;
One of the Three Is Guaranteed To Be on Contestants' Row

CBS'sTHE PRICE IS RIGHT is adding five markets as it conducts a national contestant search for the first time in the show's nearly 38-year history. THE PRICE IS RIGHT producers will interview contestant hopefuls in major U.S. markets. Three participants will be selected from each location to fly to Los Angeles and attend a taping of the legendary game show between September 2009 and February 2010. A bidder's spot on Contestants' Row will be guaranteed to one of the three participants, who will learn if they are selected to "come on down" when they hear their name called during the show's taping.
The cities being added are as follows:

Thursday, Aug. 13: Baltimore, Md., WJZ-TV http://www.wjz.com/
SPCA 10:00 AM - 1:00 PM
3300 Falls Road
Baltimore, Md. 21211
Sponsored by Mr. Basement

Tuesday, Aug. 18: Detroit, WWJ-TV http://www.wwjtv.com/
Gardner White Furniture 3:00 PM - 7:00 PM
45300 Hayes Road
Macomb Township, Mich. 48042

Tuesday, Aug. 18: Pittsburgh, Pa.., KDKA-TV http://www.kdka.com/
Rivers Casino 12 Noon - 6:00 PM
1301 Beaver Avenue
Pittsburgh, Pa. 15233

Tuesday, Aug. 18 Yonkers, N.Y., WCBS-TV http://www.wcbstv.com/
Empire City Casino 12 Noon - 3:00 PM
at Yonkers Raceway
810 Yonkers Avenue
Yonkers, NY 10704

Thursday, August 20: Johnson City, N.Y., WBNG-TV http://www.wbng.com/
Oakdale Mall 11:00 AM - 7:00 PM
635 Harry L Drive
Johnson City, N.Y. 13790

Saturday, Aug. 22: Dallas, KTVT-TV http://www.cbs11tv.com/
Stone Mountain Carpet 10:00 AM - 2:00 PM
825 Airport Freeway
Hurst, Texas 76053

Saturday, Aug. 29: San Francisco, KPIX-TV http://www.cbs5.com/
Twin Pine Casino & Hotel 3:00 PM - 6:00 PM
Hwy 29 at Rancheria Road
Middletown, Calif. 95461

All entrants must be legal U.S. residents, aged 18 and over. Official rules can be found on each individual station's website, and upcoming schedules will be posted at http://www.cbs.com/.

THE PRICE IS RIGHT, the longest-running game show in television history, is hosted by Drew Carey. Produced by FremantleMedia North America, THE PRICE IS RIGHT is broadcast weekdays (11:00 AM-12:00 Noon, ET; 10:00-11:00 AM, PT) on the CBS Television Network.

On the Web: http://www.cbs.com/daytime/the_price_is_right/
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^^^ Actually that's more depressing than anything. Cotestant search? Interviews? Flying contestants from out-of-state with a 'guaranteed' spot? Has "Price Is Right" fallen so low that it now has to BEG people to come on down to L.A.? Freemantle continues it's annual march toward butchering "TPIR" of any of the elements that have made it the premiere gameshow in television. F***ing Pathetic!
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What changes have they made aside from Drew Carey?
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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

What changes have they made aside from Drew Carey?

I think that may be opening a can of worms with a TPIR fan(atic).
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Caprica debuted on dvd before it aired on TV....just like this FG ep will do.

No it won't. The FG episode will air in September and then come out in stores in December.
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Weekly Cable Nielsens
Total Day Average Viewers (Live+SD)
Week Ending August 9, 2009

1.NICK 2,454
2.DISNEY 1,961
3.NICK AT NITE 1,684
4.USA 1,596
5.TNT 1,360
6.ADULT SWIM 1,236
7.FOX NEWS 1,200
8.TOON 1,167
9.TBS 905
10.DISCOVERY 804
11.ESPN 792
12.TRU 777
13.HISTORY 740
14.FOOD 718
15.A&E 702
16.FX 691
17.LIFETIME 681
18.FAMILY 680
19.HGTV 660
20.SPIKE 630

Source: TVByTheNumbers.com and Nielsen Media Research data
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Weekly Cable Nielsens
Prime-time Average Viewers (Live+SD)
Week Ending August 9, 2009

(in thousands)

1.USA 4,127
2.TNT 2,731
3.Disney 2,538
4.Fox News 2,339
5.Nick at Nite 1,941
6.TBS 1,581
7.Discovery 1,396
8.ESPN 1,390
9.HGTV 1,315
10.FX 1,274
11.History 1,263
12.TLC 1,250
13.Family 1,223
14.A&E 1,170
15.Toon 1,149
16.Syfy 1,130
17.Tru 1,111
18.Food 1,121
19.Lifetime 1,103
20.Comedy Central 1,026


Source: TVByTheNumbers.com and Nielsen Media Research data
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Weekly Nielsens
Prime-time Viewers (Cable and Network, Live+SD)
Week Ending August 9, 2009
(in millions)

1. CBS 6.2
2. NBC 5.1
3. Fox 4.8
4. ABC 4.4
5. USA 4.13
6. Univision 2.9 million
7. TNT 2.73

8. Disney 2.54
9. Fox News 2.34
10. Nick at Nite 1.94
11. T BS 1.58
12. Discovery 1.40
13. ESPN 1.39
14. HGTV 1.32
15. FX 1.27
16. History 1.26
17. TLC 1.25
18. Family 1.22
19. CW 1.2
20. A&E 1.17

21. Toon 1.150
22. Syfy 1.13
23. Tru 1.11
24. Food 1.12
25. Lifetime 1.10
26. Comedy Central 1.03

27. Telemundo 1.0

Source: TVByTheNumbers.com and Nielsen Media Research data
post #39556 of 87865
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

No, while it is true that SOME movies premier on Cinemax before HBO not all of them do. Frankly I don't know why there are so many Cinemax and HBO channels. In this age of DVR's it would seem that no more than 4 HD versions of the two would be more than enough. I NEVER watch more than Cinemax HD and HBO HD.

I dunno, I have yet to see (in the past year) ANY movie be shown on HBO before Max. I suspect you are thinking of ads for HBO saying "Premiere." That means premiere on HBO... the movie was actually shown first on Max (I can recall several exactly like this... they make you think it's a premiere if you don't subscribe to the other channel).

2-3 years ago, first run always went to HBO... but I think they realized a LOT of subs were for the original programming, so they premiere movies on Max.

With 8 HD channels to Max, there's just a lot more chance one will be one you may want to watch. Plus there's the stuff you haven't seen in 10-20 years... those do occasionally crop up.
post #39557 of 87865
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Originally Posted by jamieva View Post

Some do...Tropic Thunder and Hulk being 2 recent examples, but Appaloosa debuted on HBO last week or two and I don't think it was on Cinemax.

I have all the HBO and Cinemax HD channels and have had them for 4 months now, and they're basically showing the same movies for 4 months. It's like the movie Groundhog Day when I go through the guide at night.

Don't think so. Both movies are on their initial runs on HBO.. I saw both a month or two ago on Max.
post #39558 of 87865
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

No, while it is true that SOME movies premier on Cinemax before HBO not all of them do. Frankly I don't know why there are so many Cinemax and HBO channels. In this age of DVR's it would seem that no more than 4 HD versions of the two would be more than enough. I NEVER watch more than Cinemax HD and HBO HD.

I watch them all the time, and for that I'm glad FiOS carries all of them in HD. Different strokes, etc. Sure, there are a lot of movies repeated during the course of a month, but it's not like the same movie is ever airing on two HBO/Cinemax channels at the same time, or even on the same day (west feeds excluded, obviously).

The DVR's only helpful if I know in advance what's coming on and I'm using the one TV in my house with a DVR attached.
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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

What changes have they made aside from Drew Carey?

Freemantle fired behind-the-scenes staff that wanted to preserve the show's classic look/feel/legacy (legendary "TPIR" producer Roger Dobkowitz being the most visible one, along with longtime director Bart Eskander) and hired the director of "Deal Or No Deal" so they could replace "TPIR's" live-on-tape look/feel with the "DOND" style of post-production editing to get reaction shots/cool angles at the expense of spontaneity. It's not as bad as "DOND" but the current "TPIR" just doesn't feel the same. They also got rid of the vacation artwork for the doors when giving away vacation trips, replacing it with a generic monitor/green screen (which looks pathetic). This new season they're replacing the traditional podiums for the Showcase bidding with 'modernized' one's. They're also doing away with Contestant Row's traditional numerical display with a new modernized one. Pricing games that take longer than two minutes to play are being forced to retire (except for once-in-a-few-months guest appearances, ala "Golden Road") so they can cram cheaper, easier pricing games which lead to repetition of a smaller pool of pricing games. I could go on for pages and pages but I'll stop here.

Not everything "TPIR" related is a disaster though. This year's move to HD showcases how colorful and eye-candy pretty the sets and pricing games of "TPIR" are. Drew (who, unlike the models, isn't HD ready ) has made the show his own with a dose of 'inside' goofy humor that is both appreciated and upsetting to diehard "TPIR" traditionalists (www.golden-road.net). The return of an abandoned-in-the-1990's tradition of having celebrities (usually daytime performers from other CBS shows that tape at Television City) drop by to plug their shows and participate in presenting the prizes is fun. Basically Freemantle is looking at the ratings (which are low, as are all of daytime TV's) and messing around with something that's lasted 38 years on the air trying to squeeze an extra 0.1 demo rating somehow. Idiots!
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Nancy Grace is Human!


Unlike her TV show, where they keep her head trapped in little box and we hardly ever see anything besides her angry, scowling face, these pictures make her look (almost?) human! She has a body below the neck! Apparently the new image has something to do with a book tour.





http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/..._it_124237.asp
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Originally Posted by Cosmos2 View Post

Nancy Grace is Human!


Unlike her TV show, where they keep her head trapped in little box and we hardly ever see anything besides her angry, scowling face, these pictures make her look (almost?) human! She has a body below the neck! Apparently the new image has something to do with a book tour.





http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/..._it_124237.asp

I think I heard she was on O'Reilly the other night pushing her book.
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[color=DeepSkyBlue]TV Sports[/COLOR
Fox's NFL coverage changes some faces
By Michael Hiestand, USA TODAY

Fox's NFL game coverage this season will get its biggest roster shuffle since the network began airing NFL games in 1994.

And no, the new on-air lineup won't include Brett Favre.

In moves that Fox will formally announce at its NFL production meetings Monday, it will add several new analysts and give a more prominent role to ex-Baltimore Ravens coach Brian Billick.

Says Fox Sports president Ed Goren: "We're as stable an organization as there is, but it was time to freshen up."

Fox's lead NFL game teams — Joe Buck/Troy Aikman and Kenny Albert/Darryl Johnston — remain intact. So does its studio show, except for weather reporter Jillian Reynolds being on maternity leave.

The changes:

Billick, who worked in two- and three-man booths last season, will this season step up — after what Goren calls "an outstanding rookie season" last year — to a full-time two-man booth with Thom Brennaman.

Charles Davis, Fox's lead analyst on BCS games, will work NFL games with Dick Stockton. With Fox's BCS deal in its last season, Goren says, "we looked for an opportunity to keep Charles with us."

John Lynch, the nine-time Pro Bowler who called a few Fox games after retiring last season, will work games with Ron Pitts this season.

Trent Green, who retired in June after playing 11 NFL seasons, will call games with Chris Myers. Goren says Dick Vermeil, the ex-ABC analyst who coached Green, recently "called me out of the blue and said, 'You just made the best hire of the year.' "

Gone from Fox's NFL games: Analysts Brian Baldinger, J.C. Pearson, Tony Boselli and play-by-play announcer Matt Vasgersian.

When it comes to TV wild card Favre, Goren says there's "no indication he's interested in starting a broadcasting career at this time."

And when asked whether Fox — or any network — might somehow resurrect John Madden on-air, Goren says, "I certainly take him at his word that he's not a heavyweight fighter making multiple comebacks. … But there's something that just isn't right when we approach a season and Madden isn't in the booth."

Hmmm.

CBS College Sports Network adds hosts

As it tries to build name recognition, the CBS College Sports Network will add some pretty big names to its on-air roster.

The cable channel, reaching about 30 million households, will formally announce today that CBS analyst Randy Cross will work Navy home games and studio shows. Former New York Giant Jason Sehorn will call Army games as well as other games and ex-Tennessee Volunteers coach Phillip Fulmer will appear on pregame and postgame shows from the sites of the CBS broadcast network's SEC games.

Akbar Gbaja-Biamila, an ex-NFL linebacker/defensive linemen will be added to call Mountain West games.

And College Sports Network general manager Steve Herbst says getting that name was critical: "He's going to be a star. He told me Gbaja-Biamila means 'big man come save me.' Once I heard that, I had to get him onboard."

•The NFL Network carries 65 preseason games — its highest ever — but only 12 will air live.

NFLN, which re-airs or simulcasts local or national TV coverage of games, can't carry live action during time windows when any network is airing national game coverage.

But this weekend, it carries five games live — Rams-Jets and Broncos-49ers on Friday, Falcons-Lions, Bears-Bills and Seahawks-Chargers on Saturday — and this season adds its own network halftime show rather than just re-airing each game's halftime shows.

Another NFLN studio show expansion: Its Sunday pregame show this season will last four hours, up from two last season.

With an Aug. 25 debut focused on the Dallas Cowboys' new stadium, Versus launches a weekly The $ports Take sports business show. Says Rick Horrow, a sports consultant who'll host the show: "This is not intended just for hard-core sports fans or business people."

Brown's legwork lands Vick

James Brown visited Michael Vick in prison as well as during his subsequent home confinement for "background information" and to keep "letting the Vick team know" he wanted an interview.

He's not sure exactly why he got the first interview with the ex-NFL quarterback who went to prison for running a dogfighting ring, but suggests people can be more receptive to interviewers they "trust and respect" — but any relationship Brown has with Vick made him "in no-way less hard-hitting" in an interview taped Monday in Northern Virginia that will air Sunday on 60 Minutes.

Brown, who has subbed on CBS' morning news show and appeared for years on the syndicated America's BlackForum, will make his 60 Minutes debut. But Sean McManus, who oversees CBS' sports and news divisions, notes the show is based on "meritocracy" and never considered another reporter. "He worked this story for two years. I'm not sure anybody else could have gotten it without the legwork and constant contact."

McManus, who hopes to use Brown on more news reporting, says only about 5% of 60 Minutes stories in the past two years involved sports, but "they were some of the highest-rated" in part because of big CBS sports lead-ins — such as the CBS PGA Championship coverage leading into Sunday's show.

Brown, whose Vick interview included Vick mentor Tony Dungy and Humane Society of the United States head Wayne Pacelle sitting in, says the plan was to find out "why Vick did what he did" and "why he didn't extricate himself as things started to build."

As Vick has become more religious, Brown says he brought up that "it seems like when anybody gets in trouble, they find Jesus, so why should people think it's legit?"

Vick, says Brown, talks about "how many nights he cried in prison when he realized the error of his ways. … He blames no one but himself for not being man enough to walk away."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colum...s_N.htm?csp=34
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Nancy Grace was on O'Reilly Monday.
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TV ratings shake-up challenges Nielsen

By Kenneth Li in New York

Published: August 13 2009 23:45 | Last updated: August 13 2009 23:45

Top US media companies and marketers have created a consortium to challenge the dominant force in TV audience measurement.

Nielsen controls the measurement of US audiences through the polling of 18,000 homes, where viewer habits are measured by clicks of a special remote control.

Media participants in the consortium - including networks owned by NBC Universal, Time Warner, News Corp, Viacom, CBS, Discovery and Walt Disney - expect it to be operational by September.

They have pulled in Procter & Gamble and AT&T, the top and third-biggest US advertisers, and Unilever. The involvement of such big names highlights how urgently advertisers feel the need for better information to justify ads that run across multiple media platforms.

Media agencies GroupM, owned by WPP, and Starcom MediaVest are also joining.

Audience measurement is considered the lifeblood of the media industry. The $70bn spent on US TV advertising each year is allocated according to viewer numbers. The explosion of online viewing has made the measuring of total audiences across all media platforms more difficult.

The most deficient thing is there's no single source measurement [for TV and digital video], Sam Armando, senior vice-president of audience analysis at Starcom Mediavest, told the Financial Times.

It was not a case of let's go out to replace Nielsen, he said, but the consortium's plan did not require a leap of faith.

People briefed on the plans expected the consortium to award contracts for measuring set-top box data and cross- platform viewers across TV and digital sources as early as the fourth quarter of this year.

Media companies have tangled with Nielsen in the past, most notably after it replaced print diaries with remote controls, which led to undercounting.

But the explosion of online videos and the creation of initiatives such as Hulu and TV Everywhere have made improving measurement more urgent.

Nielsen measures the interaction of TV and internet video usage through a convergence panel of about 2,800 people, but these are not officially part of the national sample from which ratings are based. A full roll-out is expected by 2011.

Nielsen continues to measure across all screens because that's clearly our clients' priority, Nielsen said.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fc04615a-8...44feabdc0.html
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•The NFL Network carries 65 preseason games — its highest ever — but only 12 will air live.

"Only" seems a bit disingenuous. There are only four weeks of preseason, which means NFLN is bringing three games per week, and games are only played on four separate nights each week.

Comparatively, NBC and CBS are carrying two preseason games, Fox is carrying three, and ESPN is carrying four. So NFLN is bringing more live games than all other networks combined.

Just looking at the schedule, the maximum number of live, nationally carried games possible without creating competing broadcasts between networks have been scheduled for every day of the preseason except for Friday, Sept. 4, where NFLN has opted to bring the 8pm game rather than do a double header between the 7pm and 10pm games. And that's not surprising given that it's Labor Day weekend.
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Originally Posted by fredfa View Post

Nancy Grace was on O'Reilly Monday.

And she was almost in tears at one point. I don't watch her, so I don't know if it was just an act, but it looked genuine to me.
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NBC News showed "exclusive" new video of the midair collision over the Hudson on Saturday, although CNN now has it too. It turns out that the description of the crash in the New York Times was wrong. They said the plane rolled left and turned into the helicopter before hitting the rear from below. Actually, it turns out that the plane rolled to the right and was starting to move away from the helicopter as the wing hit the main rotor on top.
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TV Notes
Comedy Central cancels 'Reno'
Series just wrapped its sixth season?

By Nellie Andreeva, The Hollywood Reporter, August 13, 2009

"Reno 911!" won't be answering emergency calls anymore.

Comedy Central has canceled the mocumentary series after six seasons.

The news broke the way a lot of news tends to break these says, with a tweet.

"Reno 911! was cancelled at 1:30 pm today," the show's co-creator/star Thomas Lennon wrote on his Twitter feed Thursday afternoon. "Won't be wearing the shorts again."

The sixth season of "Reno 911!" wrapped its run July 8.

The show, a parody of "Cops"-type law enforcement documentary shows," co-stars Kerri Kenney-Silver, Cedric Yarbrough, Niecy Nash and Robert Ben Garant.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...4333c90e4ccb69
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I think you make a good point, Matt. Yet the NFL loudly trumpeting a few week ago that it would carry 65 games was a bit disingenuous, too, IMO.

These days sports fans expect games to be live.

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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt View Post

"Only" seems a bit disingenuous. There are only four weeks of preseason, which means NFLN is bringing three games per week, and games are only played on four separate nights each week.

Comparatively, NBC and CBS are carrying two preseason games, Fox is carrying three, and ESPN is carrying four. So NFLN is bringing more live games than all other networks combined.

Just looking at the schedule, the maximum number of live, nationally carried games possible without creating competing broadcasts between networks have been scheduled for every day of the preseason except for Friday, Sept. 4, where NFLN has opted to bring the 8pm game rather than do a double header between the 7pm and 10pm games. And that's not surprising given that it's Labor Day weekend.
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Originally Posted by nottenst View Post

I think people just not watching much network TV in the summer is a key factor. Better Off Ted is a fun show, but a good number of people who were watching it in the regular season didn't watch in the summer. If you look at the wikipedia article on Better Off Ted you will see that the summer ratings are down a whole point or more during the summer and viewers are down about 2 million.

That may have to do with the fact that ABC just aired them whenever the hell they felt like it, and left it up to us to figure out when that was. Like I said before, if it wasn't for the BOT thread on avs, I'd have no clue when it was on.

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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

No, while it is true that SOME movies premier on Cinemax before HBO not all of them do. Frankly I don't know why there are so many Cinemax and HBO channels. In this age of DVR's it would seem that no more than 4 HD versions of the two would be more than enough. I NEVER watch more than Cinemax HD and HBO HD.

At least you have the option of more than one HBO/MAX channel in HD.

**cough**DirecTV blows**cough**
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