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Nielsen Overnights (18-49)
'Bang' boosts CBS to Thursday night win
Sitcom averages a 4.7, lifting network to a 3.3
By Toni Fitzgerald, Media Life Magazine - December 9th, 2011

CBS outpaced the competition on broadcast last night with four of the night's five top-rated shows.

The network averaged a 3.3 adults 18-49 rating and 9 share, according to Nielsen overnights, up 0.1 from its most recent Thursday night of all originals on Nov. 18.

CBS's "The Big Bang Theory" remained the No. 1 program for the night with a 4.7 rating at 8 p.m. Lead-out "Rules of Engagement" was the evening's No. 2 program with a 3.2 rating.

CBS's "Person of Interest," jumping to its best rating since September, and lead-out "The Mentalist" tied with Fox's "The X Factor" as the night's No. 3 show with a 3.0 apiece.

Note that these numbers may adjust down, however, as Fox and CBS local stations both carried NFL last night.

Fox was second for the night at 2.8/8, NBC third at 1.9/5, ABC fourth at 1.7/5, Univision fifth at 1.4/4, Telemundo sixth at 0.6/2 and CW seventh at 0.4/1.

As a reminder, all ratings are based on live-plus-same-day DVR playback, which includes shows replayed before 3 a.m. the night before. Seven-day DVR data won't be available for several weeks. Forty-two percent of Nielsen households have DVRs.

At 8 p.m. CBS led with a 4.0 for "Bang" (4.7) and "Rules" (3.2), followed by Fox with a 3.0 for "The X Factor." ABC was third with a 1.9 for a special "Winter Wipeout," NBC fourth with a 1.6 for "Community" (1.5) and "Parks and Recreation" (1.7), Univision fifth with a 1.4 for "Una Familia con Suerte," Telemundo sixth with a 0.6 for "Una Maid en Manhattan" and CW seventh with a 0.4 for a repeat of "Vampire Diaries."

CBS was first again at 9 p.m. with a 3.0 for "Person," while Fox remained second with a 2.7 for "Bones." NBC was third with a 2.4 for "The Office" (2.9) and "Whitney" (1.9), ABC fourth with a 1.9 for "America's Funniest Home Videos," Univision fifth with a 1.7 for "La Fuerza del Destino," Telemundo sixth with a 0.5 for "Flor Salvaje" and Telemundo seventh with a 0.3 for a "Secret Circle" rerun.

At 10 p.m. CBS held onto the lead with a 3.0 for "The Mentalist," with NBC second with a 1.6 for "Grimm," getting a one-night tryout in the timeslot. It was the network's highest-rated show in the timeslot in nearly three months. ABC was third with a 1.4 for the debut of "The Great Big American Auction," Univision fourth with a 1.1 for "Noticias Univision Presenta" and Telemundo fifth with a 0.6 for "La Casa de al Lado."

CBS also finished first for the night among households with an 8.3 average overnight rating and a 13 share. Fox was second at 5.7/9, ABC third at 3.5/6, NBC fourth at 2.6/4, Univision fifth at 1.7/3, Telemundo sixth at 0.8/1 and CW seventh at 0.7/1.

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art...-night-win.asp
post #74582 of 93824
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Originally Posted by bgooch View Post


HBO GO
Reviewed by Joe Lindsey

The only way HBO GO could be any better is if it let us bypass our cable and satellite providers entirely.


http://www.wired.com/reviews/2011/11/hbo-go-app/

I sub to HBO thru Comcast and Directv and was really looking forward to being able to watch HBO GO on the ROKU, and then after it was unveiled and everything, the only two services(the biggest overall) aren't supported. You can't watch HBO go on the ROKU thru Comcast or Directv, now WTF is the justification for cutting of the biggest pct of the customer base from using the ROKU?

http://gigaom.com/video/hbo-go-for-r...mcast-directv/
post #74583 of 93824
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Originally Posted by DoubleDAZ View Post

The problem with that argument is WE DON'T KNOW. And, apparently, folks who use this argument don't want us to find out just what the cost would be. They'd rather keep their head in the sand than let the market determine what would happen. IMHO, a lot of channels would disappear and many shows would move to remaining channels or disappear too. I firmly believe that under ala carte cableco's could actually make more money by offering tiers with fewer channels vice the all or nothing offerings today.

Offering things individually costs more. A few set tiers are cheaper to manage. With ala carte, not only would extra staff be required to oversee the various permissions for the viewer packages, but everyone who goes this route would need a box. Plus, it would be chaos to charge a fee based on the channel, so they need to charge a fee high enough to cover the cost of the more expensive channels someone might choose with the fee charged for the cheaper ones.

$2/channel would likely do that, plus box rental fee plus the inevitable "access fee" they would charge for the privilege of not getting all those other channels. That's why 25 channels would likely easily cost $60 a month with ala carte.

For a dozen channels or less, you might get away with $30-$35.

Anyone who thinks they would pay a buck a channel and call it a day is fooling themselves.

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But, the bigger factor to me is that MY money would be going to the channels I watch, not to ESPN for bloated player salaries, etc. For example, if CNN is on 12 hrs/day and ESPN is on 0 hrs/day, CNN gets $1/mo from me while ESPN till gets their $4.69 or whatever it is. I don't care how one couches it, that is just plain wrong. I understand how we got here, but I shouldn't have to forego all channels to request/effect change. Change the dynamics and I believe there would be more competition to try to get me to subscribe to various channels than to simply keep the overall cost below the "opt out altogether" threshhold.

I'm not sure it would really work that way, though. I'll bet a channel like ESPN is going to get theirs - and some of it will be from you - even if you don't choose it individually. You may not be directly paying them, but a condition of allowing ala carte may be a much higher fee from the cable company. That means you're ala carte fees will still help pay for it - likely through that "access fee".

I'm not sure you get the victory you think you would.

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And, I'm not altruistic about cableco's part in all this, tacking on unreasonable profits too. However, at the moment at least, they're hands are tied by the current anti-competitive negotiation/contract process. And, while cableco's might not be fighting the current system for reasons of their own and there is technical competition, everyone knows Pay TV is still as close to a monopoly as one can get and not be considered a "legal" monopoly. It may not do any good, but I shouldn't have to "opt out" to air my complaints. No one has to read them, just as I don't have to read their satisfaction with the status quo because they might be afraid of what they might have to pay for ESPN if the system were to change.

The problem is, the major cable companies own blocks of channels too: TIme Warner and Comcast, in particular. They want their worthless channels to be propped up by their better properties, too (that is, if TW had any better ones). Ala Carte might very well mean the end of some of those money-makers for them.

Further, as pointed out, they sell ads on in local avail slots on all the cable channels. If viewership goes down, the ad prices drop. One 30 second ad (even in a small market) can pay the distribution fee for 100 people or more to get that channel. Multiply that by 120 minutes of insert ads per day (about 6 minutes per hour) x 30 days and that's a lot of extra revenue above and beyond the subscription fees the customer pays.

Finally, with a channel like ESPN, it's not just about fees. For those big fees, the cable companies get a lot of extra streaming, VOD and other content in the package. They might not get that without the package deal. That stuff is valuable to an increasing number of customers and makes them a lot more likely to want to keep the status quo.

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And for the record, I wonder who would be on which side of this debate if ESPN was the $1.00 cost and Fox News was the $4.69 cost???

If a channel asks for a certain price and gets it, who am I to tell Fox or ESPN they can't have it if I continue to subscribe? Further, who am I to tell Disney or Newscorp how they sell their product to the cable and satellite companies? It's they're product. They own it. They are free to package t any way they want.

BTW: I watch neither of those channels.
post #74584 of 93824
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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

I sub to HBO thru Comcast and Directv and was really looking forward to being able to watch HBO GO on the ROKU, and then after it was unveiled and everything, the only two services(the biggest overall) aren't supported. You can't watch HBO go on the ROKU thru Comcast or Directv, now WTF is the justification for cutting of the biggest pct of the customer base from using the ROKU?

http://gigaom.com/video/hbo-go-for-r...mcast-directv/

Because the Roku easily connects to your TV, and has real potential to act as a set top box, which makes people consider it more of a cable substitute. It's also a device unlikely to be taken with you, unlike a computer, phone or a tablet. Unlike those other devices that can do things without a connection to the cloud (or have cellular networks to provide the cloud), the Ruku is pretty much a brick without an internet connection.

If you're at home, they want you to watch the TV version.
post #74585 of 93824
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Originally Posted by DoubleDAZ View Post

And for the record, I wonder who would be on which side of this debate if ESPN was the $1.00 cost and Fox News was the $4.69 cost???

Both are on the basic tier for most, if not all, cable/sat systems. The difference is ESPN is watched - you could interpret that as "valued" - by a far larger group of people than FNC based on ratings numbers. And I believe FNC's carriage rate is relatively high as well compared to other cable channels although I don't know the actual amount.
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To me the price is not the issue with ala carte. It is about getting the channels that we want and pay for those. It works well in Canada it could work well in the States. Cable is in trouble now and worse shortly. If you are willing to watch shows a day late and don't care about live sports you really do not need cable. Our daughters family lives near NYC and they get a ton of over the air channels with just an inside antenna. I understand that there are ways to get all the live sports you might want. It is just some of this is not easy as click on the remote but it soon could be worth the $100 I pay month for a whole bunch of channels I never watch.
post #74587 of 93824
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I'm not sure you get the victory you think you would.

Sorry, but I don't consider this a war. My goal is simply something more fair to all parties, not necessarily cheaper. I don't mind paying for channels, I object to paying for ESPN simply because of what I believe is the direct result of Disney's modus operandi with regard to sports salaries and Pay TV costs. If it only affected ESPN and it's subscribers, I wouldn't care, but it unfairly raises costs for all of us, unlike any other channel.

And, I'm not going to argue prices. I fall back on my original statement -- "YOU DON'T KNOW". All your conclusions are based on how things work today vs looking for or at a totally different model. I firmly believe cable is heading directly toward regulated utility status and I don't think they will be happy when that happens. Just as with the internet, I think they'd be better served by embracing the technology than looking for ways to subvert it. The entire content industry needs to get it's act together and look for new ways to bring their product to consumers and let go of this dated adversarial business model.

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BTW: I watch neither of those channels.

I didn't think you did, but I specifically used CNN to avoid the ideolgy crap that would have invaded the discussion had I used FNC, even though FNC is a better example of what I'm talking about. I believe the current high cost for FNC is a direct result of what I dislike about Disney/ESPN. And, yes, I also happen to think FNC is too expensive, but they don't drive the market like Disney/ESPN does.
post #74588 of 93824
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Both are on the basic tier for most, if not all, cable/sat systems. The difference is ESPN is watched - you could interpret that as "valued" - by a far larger group of people than FNC based on ratings numbers. And I believe FNC's carriage rate is relatively high as well compared to other cable channels although I don't know the actual amount.

That is not the point and I'm quite sure you know that, but choose to ignore it.
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TV Notes
CW Shifts Midseason Lineup to Boost 'Remodeled'
By Lesley Goldberg, The Hollywood Reporter 'Live Feed' Blog - December 9th, 2011

The CW is betting big on Remodeled.

The young-skewing network has delayed the midseason returns of Sarah Michelle Gellar's Ringer and 90210 to make room for two airings of the new modeling reality series Remodeled.

Featuring modeling industry veteran Paul Fisher as he attempts to create one "Network" of smaller agencies, the CW will air the show's premiere on Tuesday, Jan. 17 at 9 p.m. following the return of 90210, which has been pushed back from its original Jan. 10 return.

A rebroadcast of the Remodeled premiere will air the following night at 9 p.m., in the same slot where the network had initially planed to launch the series. A third airing of the premiere will be broadcast on Friday, Jan. 20 at 8 p.m.

The following week, the second original episode of Remodeled will air on Tuesday, Jan. 24 at 9 p.m. and be rebroadcast Wednesday, Jan. 25 at 9 p.m.

Ringer, which was to return with new episodes on Tuesday, Jan. 10 at 9 p.m., will return to its regular time slot with new episodes starting Jan. 31 with nearly all original episodes through its season finale in May.

Remodeled will air its third episode in its regularly scheduled slot on Wednesday, Feb. 1 at 9 p.m.

The broad exposure for Remodeled comes two months after the CW yanked struggling reality series H8R from its schedule following a handful of low-rated episodes.

An updated schedule of the CW's midseason premiere dates follows.

Tuesday, January 17
8-9 p.m. 90210 (original episodes return)
9-10 p.m. Remodeled (series premiere)

Wednesday, January 18
8-9 p.m. One Tree Hill
9-10 p.m. Remodeled (special encore)

Friday, January 20
8-9 p.m. Remodeled (special encore)
9-10 p.m. Supernatural

Tuesday, January 24
8-9 p.m. 90210
9-10 p.m. Remodeled (original telecast)

Wednesday, January 25
8-9 p.m. One Tree Hill
9-10 p.m. Remodeled (special encore)

Tuesday, January 31
8-9 p.m. 90210
9-10 p.m. Ringer (original episodes return)

Wednesday, February 1
8-9 p.m. One Tree Hill
9-10 p.m. Remodeled (original episode)


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...p-boost-271940
post #74590 of 93824
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Originally Posted by DoubleDAZ View Post

That is not the point and I'm quite sure you know that, but choose to ignore it.

Then you would be mistaken. Just what was the point I'm supposedly ignoring?
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Originally Posted by kjpjr View Post

To me the price is not the issue with ala carte. It is about getting the channels that we want and pay for those. It works well in Canada it could work well in the States. Cable is in trouble now and worse shortly. If you are willing to watch shows a day late and don't care about live sports you really do not need cable. Our daughters family lives near NYC and they get a ton of over the air channels with just an inside antenna. I understand that there are ways to get all the live sports you might want. It is just some of this is not easy as click on the remote but it soon could be worth the $100 I pay month for a whole bunch of channels I never watch.

Uh, no. We definitely do not have a la carte channels up here in Canada. All carriers group channels into tiers, which seem to be carefully designed such that the majority of viewers will want one channel from every tier.
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TV/Nielsen Notes
Friday Night Dead Zone: Where Nerds Keeps Shows Alive
By Tim Molloy, TheWrap.com - December 9th, 2011

Friday night remains a ratings dead zone, where shows go to either die or compete, "Hunger Games" style, in a final, desperate bid for survival.

Once in a while, a show can surprise there, as NBC's "Grimm" has done this season. But survival demands that shows find favor with the lords of this land, who -- can we be honest? -- tend to be nerds. Or have some nerdish tendencies. (Your humble correspondent says this as someone who owns many, many boxes of comics and played oboe in junior high.)

In TheWrap's look at this season's biggest ratings gainers and losers, four of the 10 shows that have posted the biggest losses did so after a move to Friday -- and one, CW's "Supernatural," was already there. We compared ratings for this season through the week of Nov. 13, compared to the same period last year. (See chart, left).

No show on television has slid more than "Chuck," which is down 55 percent as it serves out its final season in the dead zone.

The slides are no surprise. Because Friday night draws so few viewers, it has become a place for shows that skew older, or for sci-fi and fantasy tinged shows whose fans would follow them to hell.

Or even Fridays.

Shows like "Supernatural," "Chuck," and Fox's "Fringe" might not be able to survive elsewhere. But they are a gift to TV executives on Friday nights, because they offer small but die-hard followings on a night when little is guaranteed.

"You're not going to give Friday the weight you might give other nights on your schedule, so it's always good if you use shows that have built-in audiences," said Preston Beckman, Fox's executive vice president of strategic program planning and research. "We're not going to go dark, so you've got to put something on. Better to put on something that has a built-in audience."

Beckman, let it be noted, did not once use the word "nerds."

Only one new show has debuted strong on Friday nights this season -- and would you believe one of its lead characters is a wolf? "Grimm" has averaged a 1.8 rating in the 18-to-49 demographic -- a low number any other weeknight, but an impressive one for a Friday.

The show's ratings were good enough to earn it its first Thursday tryout last night. It scored a low 1.6 rating that was nonetheless NBC's best in the timeslot in 11 weeks.

If it makes a move to another weeknight, "Grimm" will be the rare show that not only survives on Friday, but escapes it.

CBS tried moving its Friday night series "Blue Bloods" to Wednesday last season, but opted to keep it in place.

It proved to be a wise move: The show is one of only two that have posted gains on Fridays this season, gaining 5.6 percent in the demo. NBC's "Dateline," the only other show to gain on Friday, is up 7.1 percent.

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/fr...ws-alive-33474
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Thanks for the info. That's exactly what I fear would happen. Spread out some fairly popular content among a number of tiers so that I end having to get everything just as I now do. Who knows, maybe they'll put ESPN with CBS.

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Originally Posted by rsambuca View Post

Uh, no. We definitely do not have a la carte channels up here in Canada. All carriers group channels into tiers, which seem to be carefully designed such that the majority of viewers will want one channel from every tier.
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Originally Posted by rsambuca View Post

Uh, no. We definitely do not have a la carte channels up here in Canada. All carriers group channels into tiers, which seem to be carefully designed such that the majority of viewers will want one channel from every tier.

I've noticed, I studied some of the satellite pkgs and they definitely seemed to have common channels(news, sports, etc) grouped and you ended up still being forced to get several news channels in a pkg, same for a lot of the other packages. The packages looked perfect, if if you could pick 1 or two out of each one and assemble a lineup, but it didn't work that way.
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Originally Posted by rsambuca View Post

Uh, no. We definitely do not have a la carte channels up here in Canada. All carriers group channels into tiers, which seem to be carefully designed such that the majority of viewers will want one channel from every tier.

That sounds very much how Star Choice was setup when I had it several years ago.
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TV Notes
‘CBS Sunday Morning’ Re-Signs Osgood and Promotes Rocca
By Brian Stelter, The New York Times' 'Media Decoder' Blog - December 9th, 2011

CBS News said on Friday that it had renewed its contract with Charles Osgood, the long-time anchor of “CBS Sunday Morning,” and had promoted one of the show’s contributors, Mo Rocca.

A CBS spokesman confirmed that Mr. Osgood had signed a new contract, but declined the specify the length of it. Earlier this fall, when the correspondent Lee Cowan, 46, returned to the network from NBC, he was named a substitute anchor for Mr. Osgood, who has anchored “Sunday Morning” since 1994.

Mr. Rocca, a satirist who has contributed to the program since 2006, will become a full-time correspondent, the network said in a news release. He will also report for other CBS News broadcasts. Separately, he will remain a panelist on NPR’s “Wait Wait … Don’t Tell Me!” and the host of the Cooking Channel’s “Food(ography).”

Mr. Rocca’s most recent segment for “Sunday Morning,” on Nov. 27, looked at pet custody battles. Its title: “Bone of Contention.” He’ll be back on the broadcast on Sunday with a segment about warm-up comics for television shows like “Hot in Cleveland,” “The Martha Stewart Show” and CBS’s “The Late Show with David Letterman.” Mr. Rocca knows the topic well, having spent four seasons each on “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart” and “The Tonight Show With Jay Leno.”

Earlier this week, the evening complement to “CBS Sunday Morning,” “60 Minutes,” named Andrew Cohen to be the program’s first legal analyst.

CBS said Mr. Cohen, who will remain the senior legal analyst for CBS Radio, would “help ’60 Minutes’ correspondents, producers and executives with law-related stories, including deciphering legal documents, providing sources from the legal community, and otherwise guiding the program’s coverage of legal events and issues.”

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.co...ref=television
post #74597 of 93824
I'm pretty sure the cableco's have algorithms already worked out so that in the event of, say, an executive order mandating a la carte (not possible, but work with me here), individual channel carriage fees would be adjusted based on popularity and advertiser desirability such that their overall income would remain intact. That means there would be individual winners and losers among customers, but the cableco's would be certain not to lose a penny of profit. People may feel better about it though and maybe defections would drop off, which would also benefit the providers.
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Originally Posted by kjpjr View Post

To me the price is not the issue with ala carte. It is about getting the channels that we want and pay for those.

So instead of paying $60 for 80 channels, you wouldn't mind paying $50 for 40 channels, knowing that the 40 channels you didn't watch were no longer getting any of your money, correct?

I would like a debit system: I pay $60 for 80 channels now (hypothetically), but get to deduct x.xx amount for each channel I don't want. [I can dream, can't I?]
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TV Sports
Albert Pujols, C.J. Wilson deals enabled by TV revenue
The Angels' new deal with Fox Sports, said to be worth at least $3 billion and expected to cover 20 years, serves the team and the network. Deal has yet to be officially announced.
By Bill Shaikin and Kevin Baxter, Los Angeles Times - December 8th, 2011

Albert Pujols, brought to you by Frank McCourt and Kobe Bryant.

With a combination of shrewd business sense and fantastic timing, Angels owner Arte Moreno parlayed an escape clause in his television contract into the billions that enabled his team to sign Pujols and C.J. Wilson on Thursday, for almost twice what Moreno paid to buy the team.

The Angels have agreed to a new deal with Fox Sports worth at least $3 billion and expected to cover 20 years, two parties familiar with the deal said Thursday. The parties declined to be identified because the deal has yet to be officially announced.

Spokesmen for Fox and the Angels declined to comment.

Moreno last year opted out of a 10-year, $500-million contract with Fox, according to sports media consultant and former NBA TV President Ed Desser.

Desser, testifying Thursday in the Dodgers' bankruptcy case, said the Angels and Fox agreed at the time to a one-year extension while the parties negotiated a new deal.

In February, the Lakers bolted Fox for Time Warner Cable. In June, Commissioner Bud Selig rejected a proposed 20-year, $3-billion deal between the Dodgers and Fox, a decision that McCourt said pushed the team into bankruptcy. McCourt has since agreed to sell the team.

The possibility of the Dodgers' following the Lakers to Time Warner Cable left Fox facing the dilemma of satisfying the Angels or trying to run Fox Sports West and Prime Ticket with no baseball team that is, no major summer programming on either channel. The Lakers are set to leave Fox after this season.

Fox owns the Dodgers' rights through 2013. However, in recent weeks, as McCourt pushed for an accelerated auction of the Dodgers' television rights, Fox increased the value of a new Angels deal beyond what the company had offered the Dodgers.

That clinched the deal, giving the Angels a checkmate to the rising economic clout of the Texas Rangers, their American League West rival and the defending AL champion.

The Rangers agreed with Fox last year on a new contract worth an average of $80 million per year. The Angels' deal is expected to top that in average annual rights fees the rejected Dodgers' deal had an average annual rights fee of about $85 million and include an ownership stake in FSW.

Such a stake can be held as an investment, sold for more money or leveraged as a hypothetical example to finance a new or renovated stadium. Fox would have provided the Dodgers with a stake in Prime Ticket as part of their deal. However, the Rangers' new contract does not include an ownership share of their Fox Sports affiliate.

Moreno spent $183.5 million to buy the Angels in 2003. On Thursday, he spent $331.5 million on Pujols and Wilson.

In addition to funding the Angels' free-agent shopping spree, Fox is likely to benefit from it as well. To sustain interest in Southern California's crowded sports market, the Angels need star power and in Pujols they have a superstar.

"It's sort of like the Mets versus the Yankees," says Adam Swanson, a media analyst with SNL Kagan. "You have fans on both sides of the fence. [Pujols] is going to draw more viewers and draw higher ticket sales. So the opportunities are there."

The Angels had the second-lowest local television ratings among major league teams last year, according to Sports Business Journal. In addition to the potential for high ratings with Pujols and the Angels, the new TV deal also gives Fox guaranteed programming and prevents Time Warner Cable from running the table with Southern California's top franchises.

"It sort of secures Fox for a little bit," Swanson said. "They don't have to worry about the team going somewhere else. And they have access, then, to a whole lot of content."

"Time Warner [Cable] is definitely putting their footprint on the L.A. market."

Fret not, Dodgers fans. The bidding between Fox and Time Warner Cable for the Dodgers' television rights is about to start, and the over-under is $4 billion.

Times staff writer Joe Flint contributed to this report. Shaikin reported from Wilmington, Del. Baxter reported from Los Angeles.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,4052777.story
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Originally Posted by DoubleDAZ View Post

And, I'm not going to argue prices. I fall back on my original statement -- "YOU DON'T KNOW". All your conclusions are based on how things work today vs looking for or at a totally different model. I firmly believe cable is heading directly toward regulated utility status and I don't think they will be happy when that happens.

Cable used to be a regulated entity, but was freed when "competition" emerged. But even regulated utilities get to pass along increased costs. My G&E company increases rates when its fuel prices increase. The answer now is to "cut the cord if you don't like the costs." Ala carte would modify that somewhat, but not to the extent most people imagine.
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Originally Posted by domino92024 View Post

So instead of paying $60 for 80 channels, you wouldn't mind paying $50 for 40 channels, knowing that the 40 channels you didn't watch were no longer getting any of your money, correct?

Yep i can deal with that.

I would rather pay more per channel & get ALL the channels i want then pay less per channel & be MISSING channels i want.
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

TV/Nielsen Notes
Friday Night Dead Zone: Where Nerds Keeps Shows Alive
By Tim Molloy, TheWrap.com - December 9th, 2011


The slides are no surprise. Because Friday night draws so few viewers, it has become a place for shows that skew older, or for sci-fi and fantasy tinged shows whose fans would follow them to hell.

Thanks to Syfy forgetting about science-fiction it's easier for geek shows to survive on networks on Friday night. Sci-Fi Channel used to own Sci-Fridays until Syfy canned everything and changed the schedules so that Friday night is now wrestling.

No genre ratings competition there.
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TV Notes
AMC Acquires Off-Network Rights To CSI: Miami', Boosting Series' Renewal Chances
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com - December 9th, 2011

This is an odd pairing Don Draper and Horatio Caine will now be on the same network! In its first off-network acquisition, AMC, home of Mad Men, Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead, has picked up off-network rights to CBS' veteran procedural CSI: Miami. The deal with CBS Television Distribution, said to be worth tens of millions of dollars, covers the existing 10 seasons of CSI: Miami as well as Seasons 11 and 12 if produced. (Today's deal certainly increases the chances of the show continuing on CBS beyond the current 10th season). With the exception of Seasons 11 and 12, which AMC would get exclusively, the pact is non-exclusive. A&E, which had been the exclusive cable home of CSI: Miami, will continue to air the show from 6 AM-4 PM. AMC is getting fringe and primetime rights with a 4 PM-6 AM window. The drama starring David Caruso will make its debut on AMC on January 2 at 5 PM and will air in the hour Monday through Friday.

CSI: Miami is part of the hugely popular CSI franchise and one of the most-watched series in the world. As a procedural, it also is highly repeatable, which is key for cable networks looking for ways to enhance their lineups. As an hourlong, CSI: Maimi will also give AMC flexibility scheduling-wise. So far, the network had been able to complement its original series only with movies, which are harder to schedule because of their varying length. Still, CSI: Miami, a meat-and-potatoes procedural that has never been nominated for major awards, seems like an odd companion to AMC's lineup of acclaimed originals. Additionally, it is interesting that in its evolution, AMC is taking a direction opposite to the conventional one. Most cable networks start with off-network product and gradually expand into originals; AMC established itself as a strong original series player before venturing into off-network acquisitions.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/12/amc-...-on-csi-miami/
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Thanks to Syfy forgetting about science-fiction it's easier for geek shows to survive on networks on Friday night. Sci-Fi Channel used to own Sci-Fridays until Syfy canned everything and changed the schedules so that Friday night is now wrestling.

No genre ratings competition there.

Of course, Showtime (if I remember correctly - and I have one of the posters) copyrighted the name "Sci-Friday" when it had the Stargate SG1, Jeremiah, Odyssey 5 lineup - until they decided they were tired of science fiction and abandoned them all also.
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Of course, Showtime (if I remember correctly - and I have one of the posters) copyrighted the name "Sci-Friday" when it had the Stargate SG1, Jeremiah, Odyssey 5 lineup - until they decided they were tired of science fiction and abandoned them all also.

That they did. I always thought that decision puzzling. At the time, they were trying to catch HBO with their own early efforts at original programming. What better way to lock up a particularly loyal demographic that might gratefully become Showtime subscribers for life? The Dexters and Tudors and all the rest could then have followed and continued to expand the brand.
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Yep i can deal with that.

I would rather pay more per channel & get ALL the channels i want then pay less per channel & be MISSING channels i want.

Me too, but for me it's my money going to the channels I watch. Plus, like with union dues, I want to support only the channels I watch and not the others, just like political candidates.
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...What better way to lock up a particularly loyal demographic that might gratefully become Showtime subscribers for life? ....

You have that right. I was THIS close to subscribing to premium channels when they dropped them. I had been watching a friend's BetaMax copies of the shows when he was in town and was tired of waiting indefinitely to catch up on episodes.
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TV Notes
On The Air Tonight
SATURDAY Network Primetime/Late Night Options
(All shows are in HD unless noted; start times are EDT. Late night shows are preceded by late local news)

ABC:
8PM - Primetime Nightline: Bringing America Back (Special)
9PM - Republican Debate (120 min., LIVE)

CBS:
8PM - Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer (Special)
(R - Dec. 6, 1964)
9PM - The Flight Before Christmas (Special)
(R)
10PM - 48 Hours Mystery

NBC:
8PM - The American Giving Awards (Special, 120 min.)
10PM - Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
(R - Sep. 21)
* * * *
11:29PM - Saturday Night Live (Katy Perry hosts; Robyn performs)

FOX:
8PM - COPS
8:30PM -COPS
(R - Dec. 11, 2010)
9PM - Terra Nova
(R - Oct. 31)
* * * *
11:30PM - Hell's Kitchen
(R - Aug. 29)
12:30AM - I Hate My Teenage Daughter
(R - Dec. 7)

PBS:
(check your local listing for starting time/programming)
8PM - Austin City Limits: Patty Griffin and Friends (R - Oct. 16, 2010)

UNIVISION:
8PM - Sábado Gigante (Three Hours)

TELEMUNDO:
7PM - Movie: Animals Are Beautiful People (1974)
9PM - Movie: Jurassic Park III (2001)
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TV Notes
Saturday's Highlights: '2011 Heisman Trophy Presentation' on EPSN and ESPN2
By Los Angeles Times' 'Show Tracker' Blog - December 9th, 2011

[ALL TIMES LISTED ARE PACIFIC TIME]

BEST OF THE BEST: College football's top individual award is presented to the most outstanding player of the year at the 2011 Heisman Trophy Presentation (5 p.m. ESPN; 9:30 p.m. ESPN2).

SERIES

Saturday Night Live:
Katy Perry hosts with musical guest Robyn (11:29 p.m. NBC).

SPECIALS

Republican debate:
GOP presidential candidates discuss issues in Des Moines; moderated by Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopoulos (6 p.m. ABC).

Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer: The reindeer with the incandescent nose guides Santa's sleigh through a bad storm on Christmas Eve in this holiday classic based on the song by Johnny Marks (8 p.m. CBS).

The American Giving Awards: Bob Costas hosts this new special, which honors the United States' most deserving charities. Bob Costas hosts (8 p.m. NBC).

Extreme Christmas Trees: This new special focuses on over-the-top Christmas trees (9 p.m. TLC).

MOVIES

Annie Claus Is Coming to Town:
When Santa's daughter (Maria Thayer) takes a vacation in Los Angeles her first time away from the North Pole she finds friends, adventure and a chance at love that could lead to an elf's takeover of Santa's operation. Vivica A. Fox and Vicki Lawrence also star in this new romantic comedy (8 and 10 p.m. Hallmark).

Snowmageddon: Michael Hogan, David Cubitt and Magda Apanowicz star in this new tale of a snow globe that makes bad things happen when it is shaken (9 p.m. Syfy).

Appropriate Adult: A volunteer (Emily Watson) listens to the confessions of serial killer (Dominic West) in this new drama (10 p.m. Sundance).

SPORTS

College basketball:
Duke vs. Washington (9 a.m. CBS); Cincinnati at Xavier (9:30 a.m. ESPN2); Ohio State at Kansas (12:15 p.m. ESPN); Kentucky at Indiana (2:15 p.m. ESPN); Pennsylvania vs. UCLA (4 p.m. FSN); New Mexico at USC (4 p.m. FSN2).

College football: Montana State at Sam Houston State (9 a.m. ESPN); Army vs. Navy (11:30 a.m. CBS).

Hockey: The Ducks visit the Nashville Predators (5 p.m. KDOC); the Dallas Stars visit the Kings (7:30 p.m. FSN).


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/show...and-espn2.html
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TV Reviews
'Bag of Bones' dull; 'Appropriate Adult' gripping
By Rob Owen, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - December 9th, 2011

'Tis the season ... for a Stephen King miniseries? A&E believes so and will debut the four-hour "Bag of Bones" at 9 p.m. Sunday and Monday.

Once upon a time this miniseries would have aired on ABC, home to King-based projects for years. But as broadcast networks put their marketing dollars toward weekly series, miniseries like this one have to find new homes on cable.

Directed by Mick Garris, who previously helmed TV productions based on Mr. King's "The Stand" and "The Shining" remake, "Bag of Bones" rarely scares but frequently induces unintentional giggles.

Pierce Brosnan ("Goldeneye") stars as Mike Noonan, a successful novelist who grieves the death of his wife (Annabeth Gish, "The X-Files"). She's hit by a bus during one of his book signings. Noonan retreats to the family's lake house in rural Maine where he spends a lot of time being alone and sad. Then he's alone and terrified as he suffers nightmares and waking ghostly encounters.

You can imagine how an author's interior life might make a gripping read in book form but in a miniseries, it's too much of Mr. Brosnan reacting solo in long, slogging sections of the production.

Eventually Noonan acquires an adversary in town impresario Max Devore (William Schallert), which might have given "Bag of Bones" some life if the character wasn't such a stock villain.

If Sunday's episode is dull, Monday's conclusion is laughably bad as Mr. Brosnan's character suffers multiple indignities:

Attacked by a raccoon.

Vomits while feeling up a tree.

An old woman pushes him into a lake and throws rocks at him.

And then there's the finale that brings to mind the singing bush from "Three Amigos," which is never a good thing in a purported drama. Suffice it to say, this climax is worse than the spider at the end of "It."

Superb 'Adult'

"Bag of Bones" may be a bust but Sundance Channel's "Appropriate Adult" (10 p.m. Saturday) succeeds as a mostly taught psychological thriller. The three-hour film, a British import based on a true story, stars Dominic West (aka McNulty on "The Wire") as serial killer Fred West, who committed gruesome crimes with his wife, Rosemary, between 1967 and 1978.

Set in 1994 following West's arrest, the movie's title refers to a person appointed by the court to sit in during questioning to safeguard the interests of the accused. Emily Watson ("War Horse") plays Janet Leach, a mother of five and a first-time "appropriate adult" who's had training but is still unprepared for the mind games West plays.

In some respects "Appropriate Adult" brings to mind the Hannibal Lecter-Clarice Starling relationship from "Silence of the Lambs," although there's no edge-of-your-seat ticking clock element in this story. But it's still a gripping tale of police investigation and a criminal's mischief-making.

In describing one of his crimes, West calmly says he closed his daughter's eyes after killing her but before dismembering her body.

"You're not going to take a saw to your own daughter when she's sitting there looking at you, are you?" he says with chilling matter-of-factness. This is just a few minutes before he claims he made up the whole scenario and claims his daughter is working for drug lords in Bahrain.

Ms. Watson and Mr. West are well-matched and whenever they're on screen together, "Appropriate Adult" mesmerizes. But the film is overly long and runs out of steam about a half-hour before it ends after West and Leach are separated. It's a common problem with dramatic re-creations of true-life stories that don't allow the writer to concoct a way to keep the dramatic momentum alive throughout. A necessary allegiance to truth gets in the way of taut storytelling.

Check with your cable or satellite company for the Sundance channel position in your area.

'Millionaire' rates

WPXI's decision to air "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" with news anchors David Johnson and Peggy Finnegan playing for charity may have frustrated fans of NBC's "Community," which was pre-empted last week and aired on Saturday, but it turned out to be a smart programming move.

On Dec. 2 at 8 p.m., "Millionaire" beat all the competition in the time slot, garnering a 10.4 rating and 16 share of the viewing audience in households, ahead of CBS's "The Big Bang Theory" on KDKA-TV (9.9/15) and ABC's "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town" on WTAE (5.0/8). "Millionaire" also had double the rating of all the NBC shows that followed it on WPXI.

Even in demos, "Millionaire" did well, placing second (3.7/8) to "The Big Bang Theory" (4.6/11) in the adults 25-54 demographic.

'Dance Moms' returns

Lifetime's "Dance Moms," filmed at Abby Lee Miller's Penn Hills dance studio, will be back for a second season at 9 p.m. Jan. 10.

The network touted the show as its youngest-skewing program with a median age of 37.

Channel surfing

Bob Costas hosts "The American Giving Awards" (8 p.m. Saturday, WPXI) with musical acts Leanne Rimes, Rodney Atkins and Richland's own Jackie Evancho. ... Fox's "Bones" spinoff, "The Finder," debuts Jan. 12 and last season's "Bones" episode that set up "The Finder" will re-air at 9 p.m. Thursday. ... Showtime has renewed the Lisa Kudrow-starring summer comedy "Web Therapy" for a second season to air next year. ... ABC Family has ordered a third season of "Pretty Little Liars" to air next summer. ... Can't wait to see this one: Next June Syfy will debut the Saturday night movie "Jersey Shore Shark Attack," starring "Jersey Shore" regular Vinny Guadagnino. The movie also will have a character called "The Complication," not to be confused with "Jersey Shore's" "The Situation."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11343/1195580-67.stm
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