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[quote=dad1153;21992822]TV Notes
Microsoft Dropping DVD/Blu-ray Playback Support in Windows 8
By Chloe Albanesius, PCMag.com


I didn't think things anywhere near far enough along to stop the option of watching DVDs on your computer. Looks like I'll be hanging onto Vista and W7 for awhile longer.
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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

Well, I guess it doesn't matter, since I'll be sticking with Windows 7, they seem to be deserting what I'm sure is a fairly large portion of their user base(users who do utilize Windows Media Center and disk playback). I think they'll definitely lose some sales on Windows 8 because of this. I'll be sticking with Windows 7, unless the add-on is very cheap.

Streaming is nice, but when we have basically no choice but to stream, then the hammer will drop and we'll be gouged endlessly with bandwidth caps and we'll be hung out to dry with the requirement to sub to a slew of different services to get a decent selection of programming.

Of course these are my opinions only, but the road ahead looks like we're(the consumer) gonna get continuously nickled and dimed(if not dollared) until we just throw in the towel and let them have it. We can only hope their eternal greed and arrogance will bankrupt a few of them, because someone that loves TV as much as I do and subs to all the premium channels is about ready to just scrap the whole thing and go for some basic programming.

yep - I'm with you all the way. At the risk of fanning the flame, this just seems kinda knee jerked and not well though through. Even if the WMC for W8 is affordable, it has been free for so many years that it's coming off as some kind of desperate move to suddenly start making people pay for it. In short - it just doesn't make sense - at least not to me. Bottom line is that most laptops and PCs these days still have DVD players in them and I'm guessing that will continue - for awhile anyway.
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Originally Posted by javry View Post

yep - I'm with you all the way. At the risk of fanning the flame, this just seems kinda knee jerked and not well though through. Even if the WMC for W8 is affordable, it has been free for so many years that it's coming off as some kind of desperate move to suddenly start making people pay for it. In short - it just doesn't make sense - at least not to me. Bottom line is that most laptops and PCs these days still have DVD players in them and I'm guessing that will continue - for awhile anyway.

I kinda agree with the knee-jerk reaction also. Their stock is finally starting to move after many years, and making the newer Windows with less features isn't gonna help sales, the streaming is nice, but it's complementary to most people, it's not the be all end all that they are trying to make it, consumers are being cut out of the loop as the manufacturers make all the decisions on what and how we get our programming and live our lives in general.
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Well, vanilla-XP didn't support DVD playback out of the box either. Nor did several versions of Vista. Nor do lower versions of 7. This isn't exactly new.

Quite frankly, I don't see the big deal. I don't know how many Windows 7 users use WMC, but I'd be willing to bet anything it's less than 10%. I couldn't tell you the last time I used my PC to play a DVD movie. And even if I did, I'd use VLC, which offers a lot more features than WMP. Most PCs come shipped with 3rd-party playback software as well, so I think the chances of the average consumer noticing this feature missing would be pretty slim. And like dad said, Win8 is being targeted towards tablets.

Personally, I'll be sticking with 7 as well (as a PC gamer, not much of a reason to upgrade). Microsoft has a habit of releasing bad OSes after good ones. 98 was good. ME was probably the worst OS ever made. XP was good. Vista was initially bad (by the time SP2 was released, it was good). 7 was good. 8 = ?
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I use WMC for its slick Netflix interface, and not much else.
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With the release of Cablecard multi-tuner devices in the last couple of years, WMC has gained a lot of fans as a whole-home DVR solution with Xbox360 and other extenders. Others have been using it this way for years with OTA and analog cable tuners. It does not have a lot of uptake, sure, but the fans are loyal. And now Ceton and Whiteman are coming out with whole-home DVRs and extenders based on 7MC Embedded OS so it's going to get more people interested. But it will still be a niche market, and still doesn't include satellite or U-Verse.

Well it could, if the FCC would get off their ass and finish the AllVid proposal.
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TV/Business Notes
ABC News, Univision Launch English-Language News Venture
By Tim Molloy, TheWrap.com - May 7, 2012

ABC News and Univision announced Monday their collaboration on an English-language news, entertainment and lifestyle venture that will cater to the country's 50 million Hispanics viewers.

Plans for the venture first came to light in February. A website, as well as mobile and social media content, are expected to debut this summer. A yet-to-be named, 24/7 television channel is expected to launch next year.

The two companies will share newsgathering and production resources, and networks and anchors will be based in major cities across the U.S. A management team is expected to be announced this summer.

Univision News is proud to be working with ABC News in this groundbreaking venture to further deliver global news and investigative reporting to the fastest growing segment of the U.S. population which today is one of the most important influencers on the future of the United States and its role in the world, said Isaac Lee, president of Univision News.

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/ab...-venture-38716
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HBO is showing the Mayweather/Cotto fight saturday @ 10:15pm.

Its not updated in some program guides yet.


Also TBS has the Family Guy Star Wars OT parodys from 8-11....if youre a SW fan these are must sees if youve never seen them.
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

Windows 8 will work on computers but its mainly for tablets

Steven Sinofsky, head of the Windows team at Microsoft would beg to differ with you on that one.
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Originally Posted by kingpcgeek View Post

Steven Sinofsky, head of the Windows team at Microsoft would beg to differ with you on that one.

It would be more accurate to say that the Metro interface is being designed with tablets in mind. The traditional PC experience in Windows 8 will not be all that different from what came in 7 (or Vista, for that matter).
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

Does it really matter though? Windows 8 will work on computers but its mainly for tablets, which aren't devices meant for disc playback of any kind.

That is a gross misrepresentation of windows 8. I've been running it for nearly a year as a main desktop OS. There are things I don't like, but it has little to do with the Tablet vs PC use factor.

But, as they lose the entire media player market because they have the only "4 pay" application, we'll see how long the policy lasts.

They are banking too heavily on "cloud" and streaming solutions. Just like they were several years too early with the tablet concept, they are several years too early with ditching local playback.
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SUNDAY's fast affiliate overnight prime-time ratings -and what they mean- have been posted on Analyst Marc Berman's Media INsight's Blog
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

That is a gross misrepresentation of windows 8. I've been running it for nearly a year as a main desktop OS. There are things I don't like, but it has little to do with the Tablet vs PC use factor.

You're right, I apologize. I don't know enough or have hands-on experience with Windows 8 to pass judgement on it. I'm no computer expert (even though I work on computers all day) so all I know is based on reading tech blogs and other similar stuff. And a layman like me, perceptionwise, perceives Windos 8 as being primarily an OS for the mobile/tablet market that also happens to work on regular PC's. Sorry!
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Nielsen Overnights (18-49)
Pre-finale bump for 'Desperate Housewives'
Long-running ABC comedy jumps 12 percent from last week
By Toni Fitzgerald, Media Life Magazine - May 7, 2012

A week before its highly anticipated series finale, ABC's "Desperate Housewives" saw a ratings bump.

The long-running hit comedy was up 12 percent versus the previous week to a 2.8 adults 18-49 rating in the 9 p.m. timeslot, according to Nielsen.

That marked "Housewives'" best rating since the Jan. 8 episode, which averaged a 3.0, and it comes as the show prepares for next week's series ender.

The finale will be two hours long and is expected to include the usual doses of death, romance and shockers that "Housewives" became known for over its eight-year run.

This year "Housewives" fell to all-time low ratings, but the finale for what was once the top scripted show on television is expected to draw a healthy crowd next week.

Meanwhile, elsewhere last night, the two-hour season finale of "The Amazing Race" on CBS averaged a 2.6 rating from 8 to 10 p.m., flat to last spring's finale.

With the two top-rated shows of the night in "Housewives" and "Once Upon A Time," ABC led the night among 18-49s with a 2.4 average overnight rating and a 7 share. CBS was second at 2.0/6, Fox third at 1.9/5, NBC fourth at 1.3/4, Univision fifth at 0.9/3 and Telemundo sixth at 0.5/1.

As a reminder, all ratings are based on live-plus-same-day DVR playback, which includes shows replayed before 3 a.m. the night before. Seven-day DVR data won't be available for several weeks. Forty-four percent of Nielsen households have DVRs.

At 7 p.m. ABC was first with a 2.0 for "America's Funniest Home Videos," followed by CBS with a 1.6 for "60 Minutes." Fox was third with a 1.3 for a repeat of "The Simpsons" (1.1) and a new "The Cleveland Show" (1.4), NBC fourth with a 0.7 for "Dateline," Univision fifth with a 0.6 for "Rosa de Guadalupe" and Telemundo sixth with a 0.3 for "Pa'lante con Cristina."

ABC was first again at 8 p.m. with a 3.0 for "Time," while CBS remained second with a 2.6 for "Race." Fox was third with a 2.0 for "The Simpsons" (2.1) and "Bob's Burgers" (1.8), Univision fourth with a 0.9 for "Nuestra Belleza Latina," NBC fifth with a 0.7 for "Harry's Law" and Telemundo sixth with a 0.3 for more "Cristina."

At 9 p.m. ABC led with a 2.8 for "Housewives," with CBS a close second with a 2.7 for more "Race." Fox was third with a 2.5 for "Family Guy" (2.7) and "American Dad" (2.3), NBC fourth with a 1.6 for "Celebrity Apprentice," Univision fifth with a 1.2 for more "Latina" and Telemundo sixth with a 0.7 for the first hour of the movie "Apocalypto."

NBC took the lead at 10 p.m. with a 2.1 for more "Apprentice," followed by ABC with a 1.8 for "GCB." CBS was third with a 1.3 for "NYC 22," up 8 percent from last week, Univision fourth with a 1.0 for "Sal y Pimienta" and Telemundo sixth with a 0.8 for its movie.

Among households, CBS was first for the night with a 5.7 average overnight rating and a 9 share. ABC was second at 4.6/8, NBC third at 3.8/6, Fox fourth at 2.3/4, Univision fifth at 1.4/2 and Telemundo sixth at 0.6/1.

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art...ousewives-.asp
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Business Notes
Dish Network's Surprising Q1 Sub Growth Helps It To Beat Profit Forecasts
By David Lieberman, Deadline.com - May 7, 2012

The No. 2 satellite company added 104,000 subscribers, bringing its total to 14.1M. Analysts only expected to see a pick up of about 88,000. The company attributes its strong performance to a decline in its churn rate helped by the fact that it didn't increase its subscription prices the way it did last year. The financials are a little more complicated: Dish generated $360.3M in net income, down 34.5% vs the same period last year, on revenues of $3.6B, up 11.1%. The decrease in profit is partly due to the fact that last year's results had a $341M boost from a reversal of litigation expenses following the settlement of the patent infringement lawsuit with TiVo. The revenue figure was in line with analyst forecasts. And earnings, at 80 cents a share, beat projections of 70 cents.

About $334M of the company's revenues, and $14M in operating income, came from Blockbuster, acquired in April 2011. Dish says it benefited from the sale of the rental chain's inventory: It closed about 500 domestic stores in Q1, bringing the total down to about 1,000. Dish says it plans to close another 100 domestic Blockbuster stores in the current quarter and warns that its evaluation of the chain's performance could lead us to close additional Blockbuster retail stores. CEO Joseph Clayton says he's encouraged by two quarters of net additions, as well as a reduction in churn. Although the company provided no details about the launch in March of its ballyhooed Hopper multi-room DVR set top box, he says the market's reception was favorable and we think it will be a great platform for the future.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/dish...fit-forecasts/
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Technology Notes
LG launching Google TV later this month
By Brett Molina, USA Today - May 7, 2012

High-definition television makers LG plan on releasing an Internet-ready device using the Google TV platform, reports Reuters.

Citing a senior LG executive, the report says the TV will launch on the week of May 21. No details were given on prices or screen sizes.

Google TV is the search giant's attempt at creating a Smart TV experience, giving users access to their Chrome Web browser, as well as apps including Netflix and Pandora. Users can also use their iPhone or Android smartphone as a remote control.

Google recently rolled out an update to its TV and Movies app emphasizing Favorites and letting users rate shows or films.

Since launching in 2010, Google TV has struggled to capture a big audience in the Smart TV business. The company pushed out a massive update last October, and unveiled partnerships with TV makers LG and Vizio during January's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...r-this-month/1
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post


They are banking too heavily on "cloud" and streaming solutions.

What good is "Cloud " Or even "Streaming " gonna be when when most have caps on the D/L rate ???
I'm lucky I've got unlimited D/L BUT as I "Knocks On Wood " That could end at any time .....
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

You're right, I apologize. I don't know enough or have hands-on experience with Windows 8 to pass judgement on it. I'm no computer expert (even though I work on computers all day) so all I know is based on reading tech blogs and other similar stuff. And a layman like me, perceptionwise, perceives Windos 8 as being primarily an OS for the mobile/tablet market that also happens to work on regular PC's. Sorry!

First, no need to apologize .. stupid message boards always make everything sound so dang serious.

I think people have the "tablet" perception because the primary interface is Metro. Since that's what people are seeing instead of a "desktop", they are assuming it is tablet oriented. FWIW, I am not a Metro fan on or off a tablet. Although I do like the programming paradigm, I just don't like the interface.

All that said, the desktop concept is still alive and well. Again, there are things I don't like that I hope don't make it to production (i.e. the dumbing down of the indexing system), in general it is a MUCH smaller footprint OS that uses the "plugin" approach to streamline things. By the way you can click "desktop" on the main metro screen (which you can set as default) and you get pretty much the W7 experience +- a few things.
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

You're right, I apologize. I don't know enough or have hands-on experience with Windows 8 to pass judgement on it. I'm no computer expert (even though I work on computers all day) so all I know is based on reading tech blogs and other similar stuff. And a layman like me, perception wise, perceives Windows 8 as being primarily an OS for the mobile/tablet market that also happens to work on regular PC's. Sorry!

Your just like a whole lotta people Dad ... MS has really Pooched the Puppy about what W8 really is ........
................... All the Cash & they still Hire incompetent media consultants
..Idiots they all are !
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

What good is "Cloud " Or even "Streaming " gonna be when when most have caps on the D/L rate ???
I'm lucky I've got unlimited D/L BUT as I "Knocks On Wood " That could end at any time .....

Data caps are just 1 of the many issues with "cloud" solutions. Data integrity, copyright infringement, QOS .....

You think TV is artificially creating channels and content unnecessarily, you wait until the big content providers finally get all major copyright material (think iTunes/Netflix/Hulu/Pandora etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc), the rental model will be horrific, and each will have its own flavor to stop cross population and competition at both the technical and provider layers.
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Critic's Notes
Potential romance of Stana Katic and Nathan Fillion remains an unsolved case on Castle'
By David Hinckley, New York Daily News - May 7, 2012

Kate Beckett of Castle is one hard-boiled detective. But she's spent much of this season tending to her soft heart.

Stana Katic's Beckett spent a couple of seasons resisting the unsubtle infatuation of Richard Castle (Nathan Fillion). Then, when he finally pretended to move on, she was slammed with the realization she might have made a terrible mistake.

If it's any consolation as the Castle season rolls to a close Monday (ABC, 10 p.m.), Kate isn't the first character caught in one of TV's most heart-wrenching dilemmas.

You have two characters who, whether they admit it or not, have fallen in love and want to get together. You have an audience that would love to see them happy.

And then you have cold-hearted writers and producers who realize that could ruin the show.

The previews of Monday night's Castle suggest we may get some resolution. Don't bet your badge on it.

Let's look at just a sampling of history:

1. Maddie and David, Moonlighting. The textbook case of a show going into decline after Will they or won't they? became They did. The fun just withered.

2. Will and Emma, Glee. They sort of got together, but with so many asterisks and qualifiers it really doesn't even count.

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3. Marshall and Mary, In Plain Sight. Poster kids for abstinence, at least from each other. They did the dance for five years, right up to this past Friday's final show.


4. Bones and Booth, Bones. A test case. They refrained for years and now they're parents. Can it work?

5. House and Cuddy, House. They circled warily for years, finally got together and imploded so violently it blew Cuddy right off the show.

6. Ross and Rachel, Friends. Even when they had a baby, these two never acted quite sure.

7. Sam and Diane, Cheers. Another show where the signs said yes and the writers said no.

8. Buffy and Spike, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. This got tricky, but Buffy held out almost until the end.

9. Mike and Molly, Mike & Molly. An exception that proves the rule, perhaps. The premise was that they'd get together, so all the drama and jokes were always geared for two.

10. Nick and Jess, New Girl. The show is still in its first season, and it hasn't taken this inevitable relationship out of first gear yet. Drive slow, guys.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1072653
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

hey still Hire incompetent media consultants
..Idiots they all are !

Well, some might be smart idiots
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TV Notes
'The Client List' Gets Second Season From Lifetime
By Tim Kenneally, TheWrap.com - May 7, 2012

"The Client List" has apparently rubbed Lifetime the right way.

The series, which stars former "Party of Five" star Jennifer Love Hewitt as an abandoned wife and mother who takes a job at a masseuse to pay the bills and discovers that the her place of employment offers illicit services, has been picked up for a second season, the network said Monday. The 15-episode season will premiere next year.

The show, which emerged from a Lifetime movie that also starred Hewitt, has been a solid attraction for Lifetime since its April 8 premiere, drawing 2.8 million total viewers with its maiden episode. To date the series has averaged 2.7 million total viewers.

In addition to the numbers, the series reflects the ambitions for lifetime as a whole, Lifetime Networks' president and general manager Nancy Dubuc said while announcing the renewal.

"'The Client List' represents everything we want to be -- fresh, exciting and original with attitude," Dubuc said.

The series also stars Cybill Shepherd .

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/cl...lifetime-38771
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TV Notes
NBC orders Anne Heche comedy for fall
By Lynette Rice, EW.com's 'Inside TV' Blog - May 7, 2012

The race toward fall 2012 has begun in earnest. NBC, which will present its fall lineup to advertisers next Monday in New York, has picked up a comedy pilot to series that will star Anne Heche.

The project is called Save Me and it also features Alexandra Breckenridge and Michael Landes. Here is the official logline: A woman, who lets herself go while in a broken marriage, goes through a transformation where she becomes the best version of herself and creates miracles along the way.

NBC has already ordered to series a comedy starring Matthew Perry called Go On. It's about an irreverent yet charming sportscaster tries to move on from loss, he reluctantly finds surprising solace from the members of his mandatory group-therapy sessions.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/07/nb...medy-for-fall/
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TV/Business Notes
Losses at Oprah's TV channel approach $330M
By Michael Shain, New York Post - May 7, 2012

The losses at Oprah Winfrey's stumbling cable channel are approaching a staggering $330 million, according to a report over the weekend.

And now industry insiders are predicting the Oprah Winfrey Network will not be able to survive another year if it does not find a hit show and make a dramatic turnaround.

Discovery, which partnered 50-50 with Winfrey to launch the network and has been underwriting its costs, has invested nearly $600 million in it since 2008, according to an extensive report in Businessweek magazine.

But since it started on the air in January 2011, OWN may have lost as much as $330 million, the magazine reports.

The magazine quotes one Wall Street media analyst calling the channel the most successful failure in television today.

David Zaslav, the chief executive officer of Discovery Communications who talked Oprah into the idea of OWN, is famously impatient with money-losing operations within his company.

He closed a channel Discovery operated with the New York Times in 2008 and just last month killed Planet Green, an eco channel.

Zaslav has one of the biggest salaries in cable TV $42 million in 2010 and raised eyebrows when he bought Conan O'Brien's Central Park West apartment two years ago as a second home for a reported $25 million.

I really can't see Zaslav losing this kind of money for much longer, one longtime business associate said last week.

Winfrey appeared before advertisers two weeks ago to, in effect, ask for more time.

I am in the climb of my life, she told them. I am climbing Kilimanjaro.

Though Winfrey herself has relatively little money invested in the channel, her image as the most successful TV star of her generation is on the line.

E-mails to OWN and Oprah's production company, Harpo, were not returned yesterday.

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...ZKIb9Yf7M7xWON
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

What good is "Cloud " Or even "Streaming " gonna be when when most have caps on the D/L rate ???
I'm lucky I've got unlimited D/L BUT as I "Knocks On Wood " That could end at any time .....

Caps that are purportedly used because of limited bandwidth, high usage, congestion, blah, blah, blah... problems that miraculously disappear when you spend a few extra bucks on a business plan(Comcast Business Class Internet is about $15 more than the comparable speed residential plan with none of the bandwidth restrictions and has better, faster tech support too). Caps are used to protect legacy video offerings such as cableTV and to increase bottomline profits and have extremely little to nothing to do with with any so called "bandwidth shortage".
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TV Notes
AMC's Joel Stillerman is meticulous in looking for next 'Mad Men'
The cable executive puts show runners aspiring and present through their paces, sometimes to their displeasure. It's all to continue the network's success.
By Steve Zeitchik, Los Angeles Times - May 6, 2012

NEW YORK On a recent morning, Joel Stillerman, an executive with the cable network AMC, was sitting in his 15th-floor office opposite Madison Square Garden and getting excited. He wasn't enthused about the usual matters, like the restored popularity of the network's signature series, "Mad Men," or the shiny ratings for the recently concluded season of the zombie hit"The Walking Dead."

"You've never seen 'Ace in the Hole?'" Stillerman said to a reporter, referring to the 1951 Billy Wilder film about a cynical newsman. He gestured to a billboard-sized poster on the office wall opposite him and tossed out a few memorable lines. "You need to see it. It's all about one of my favorite themes second chances."

In just four short years, Stillerman has had his own unlikely opportunities. He's ascended from the obscurity of midlevel jobs in cable TV and independent film to a position of enormous influence. As head of original programming and production at AMC, Stillerman is the most important creative figure at a network that is, as of this moment, probably the country's foremost home for serial drama. He inherited some of the network's current success his predecessor developed "Mad Men" and"Breaking Bad" but he shepherded those shows to the prestige hits they are today while developing new ones like "The Walking Dead."

To achieve this, Stillerman, 50, hasn't so much hoisted an antenna to gauge consumer interest as he has drawn on his own deep cultural appetite. In a conversation about his business, he is more likely to cite the work of Carl Sagan or the novelist Kazuo Ishiguro (or classic films) than, say, Nielsen figures or the effects of DVR playback.

But in carving out this influence, Stillerman has also become embroiled in battles that would make Don Draper blush including two tense public standoffs with the creators of his biggest hits (Matthew Weiner of "Mad Men" and Frank Darabont of "The Walking Dead"). And Stillerman has become the subject of whispered criticism from other collaborators that, though his taste is sharp, his ability to finesse Hollywood's delicate relationships leaves something to be desired.

As AMC keeps an ever-firmer eye on the bottom line, Stillerman also, coincidentally or not, is taking the network in a direction that looks a lot more like other parts of the prestige cable dial and less like the iconoclastic network that set series in a midcentury ad agency and a homegrown meth lab. Last week, Stillerman and his small team of about 10 staffers greenlighted two pilots (the first new shows in nearly two years) that will take place in more familiar confines: the legal and police worlds.

"We easily could have set the shows in places you've never seen before, but that's not the sum total of our filter and mandate," he said. "The specific criteria are: 'Which projects are going to make the best television?'" But then he acknowledged that police and lawyer shows had their advantages. "I do like shows in familiar [settings], because starting from scratch is hard," he said. "It's really, really, really hard."

A thorough vetting

Even in the unruly world of cable television, AMC's development approach is singular, as evidenced by a look at the recently concluded annual process that gets the network from some words on a page to, it hopes, a show that makes TV fans buzz.

After Stillerman and his team handpick a group of scripts, they invite creators to a Southern California hotel room to make their case that a pilot should be produced. (Stillerman and the heads of the network are based in New York; Stillerman's staffers are largely in Los Angeles.) Show runners are then asked to lay out their hypothetical series in exquisite detail how future seasons will unfold, how much episodes will cost, how camera angles will look.

The executives sit at a large table while some of Hollywood's brightest talents humbly step in front of them, like a solicitor general making an argument to the Supreme Court. One person who went through the AMC process described the questions as so rigorous that it was almost as though the show had already been on the air for years.

The system has angered some creators, who resent being asked for so much work on something that probably won't ever see the light of day. (Last year, the network was so unimpressed with the finalists that it didn't pick up a single project.)

Still, the big names come, bringing their most ambitious ideas. This is AMC, after all, sanctuary for the ambitious.

This year, the network chose six projects to consider from a stack of dozens. The finalists included proposals that are audacious even by AMC standards: "Sacred Games," a 19th century detective story set in India based on the 900-page novel of the same name; "Turn," a spy story set amid the patriots and loyalists of the Revolutionary War; "Crystal Pines," a series about a journalist who volunteers for a cloning experiment; and "Mean Tide," a moody drama set in the world of a declining New England fishing town.

But two of the more traditional candidates spoke to Stillerman more directly. There was an untitled, race-themed legal series that resonates in the wake of Trayvon Martin from Oscar-nominated screenwriter Richard LaGravenese ("The Fisher King," "Water for Elephants") and director Tony Goldwyn ("Conviction"), as well as "Low Winter Sun," an adaptation of a British miniseries about dirty cops reset in Detroit that comes from Chris Mundy, a longtime veteran of"Criminal Minds" and "Cold Case."

Stillerman liked the Mundy project because it is a show "about second chances, both the people and the city's it's set in." He was drawn to the other proposal because it deals with race there is a group of whites accused of killing a black family but also, he said, because it contains some big themes. Stillerman calls it "'Crime and Punishment" that becomes"Heat,"though whether AMC's originality-seeking viewers will find the show, and the network's larger direction, too similar to what it and other channels have already done remains to be seen.

After the arguments, Stillerman and his team spend months debating what they've heard concepts, casting, character nuance, the possibilities for epic storytelling. The stakes are high: AMC takes such extreme care because it makes few pilots; in fact, in contrast to accepted Hollywood practice, it's turned every pilot it ever made into a series.

More than you'd expect in the high-dollar game of ad-supported television, the network makes ambition its own virtue these shows, after all, have to carry the mantle when the current hits go off the air. "Trying to re-create 'Mad Men' on any level, well, you can drive yourself crazy," Stillerman said. "What we do want is to find a show that reinforces our reputation for originality. It's the big creative swing we're after."

When he has finally settled on his choices, he presents them to his bosses, AMC President and General Manager Charlie Collier and the president and chief executive of AMC Networks, Josh Sapan, who will at times lean in a different direction. The three then hash out the ideas further.

Ideally, said Collier, the shows are actively different from anything else on AMC's own airwaves, a departure from conventional network thinking about pairings and lead-ins. "The best thing I can hear about a show," Collier said, "is that it doesn't look like AMC."

When they finally settle on a series, they notify the winning creative teams, as they did last week with the people behind "Sun" and the LaGravenese-Goldwyn show. A couple of additional shows are sometimes given a last-ditch chance producers can go back to the drawing board to try again next year. The others go home empty-handed.

Creative tension

A communications and television major at Emerson College in Boston, Stillerman got his start nearly 25 years ago at MTV, where he had a hand in the network's "Unplugged." He eventually pingponged to Walden Media, the family-entertainment outfit, before moving to an independent film company in New York called Spanky, where he served as Ted Demme's producing partner.

Things changed in 2008, when Stillerman, on the recommendation of some producers who had worked with him, came out of nowhere to replace AMC's programming chief Rob Sorcher. (Sorcher was decamping for the Cartoon Network.) Having served at AMC when it was a forgotten corner of the Cablevision empire that re-aired old movies, Sorcher helped usher in a new era with "Mad Men" and "Breaking Bad."

"We were so new on 'Mad Men,' we didn't even know the rules of cable drama," said the network's Ben Davis, who worked under Sorcher and now serves on Stillerman's team. "I think if we did, we probably never would have made that show."

Stillerman had the tough act of following that one-two series punch, forced to steer shows he didn't develop.

As he developed his own shows, he misfired with the now-canceled conspiracy thriller"Rubicon" and had a modest performer in last year's railroad drama"Hell on Wheels." He had a bigger hit in the noirish"The Killing" at least until a backlash over last season's unresolved finale. (Stillerman later conceded the network should have marketed the show differently.)

But he really hit it big with the network's ratings crown jewel, "Walking Dead," a story of a man trying to protect a small band of humans from zombies in postapocalyptic America. Stillerman bought it from "Shawshank Redemption" director Darabont, among others, and retained the original comics writer Robert Kirkman. Kirkman speaks fondly of Stillerman's team. "They allow creative people to create," he said.

Sapan says that Stillerman's eclectic streak makes him a natural. "If it's been published, Joel has probably read it; if it's been on a stage he's probably seen it," Sapan said. "One of the first times we spoke he told me about [1950s bowling commentator] 'Whispering' Joe Wilson. Do you know anyone who can tell you about 'Whispering' Joe Wilson?"

But knowledge and taste don't always translate into good bedside manner. Stillerman has a number of detractors in Hollywood, who find deficiencies in his ability to handle creative egos.

"There are ways you need to parent people in Hollywood. And Joel doesn't know how to do that. When there's good news he can be silent, and when there's bad news he doesn't know how to deliver it tactfully," said a high-ranking veteran of one AMC show, requesting anonymity because the person did not want to jeopardize future relationships. "I don't think it's an accident that there were those blowups with Weiner and Darabont."

Those blowups depending on whom you believe, over creative control, personality or money don't always resolve themselves easily. Weiner settled his differences and came back to "Mad Men." "Dead" didn't end as neatly Darabont left the show in the summer. Neither creator commented for this story.

For his part, Stillerman said that "we have not had a perfect track record with respect to show runners, but I think this is just part of the process. Overall we still have a pretty good track record, and that speaks to our intentions. None of us feel show runners are an expendable entity."

However, even AMC's supporters say relationships with the network can take a direct tone. "AMC isn't afraid of its filmmakers. If something doesn't feel right, even small choices, they'll ask some pretty hard questions," said Mark Johnson, executive producer of "Breaking Bad." "It's a pretty big difference from a place like HBO, where if you're a big name and you make your deal, they'll leave you pretty much alone."

There are other differences, particularly in the scope of the operation. A walk through AMC's offices reveals narrow hallways and modestly decorated offices, a contrast with the gleaming modernism of HBO's glass-and-steel headquarters farther uptown. The staff is a fraction of the size of several cable giants. Sapan sometimes carries a two-strap knapsack on his back, a practice that's hard to imagine for CEOs of other high-end networks.

Stillerman also faces pressures on the financial side that might explain why some of his new shows will come in more conventional packaging. In June, AMC Networks was spun out by parent Cablevision, meaning it now has shareholders to answer to. Though digital revenue from Netflix and others is growing, AMC still relies heavily on advertising. In the most recent quarter, earnings came in below analysts' expectations, thanks to an $18-million write-down from "Rubicon" a reminder of what can happen when chancy programming fails.

Perhaps as a result, the network has made small forays into more commercially safe territory. It recently began airing repeats of "CSI: Miami." And AMC is starting to dabble in competition reality TV. Viewers of "Mad Men" and "The Killing" in recent weeks have seen spots for "The Pitch," an "Apprentice"-like show in which brands like Subway are "partners" that is, they pay money to get name-checked. Don Draper would be proud. But it remains to be seen whether his fans will feel the same way.

Stillerman said he doesn't see a conflict in this. "We want to bring the best version of a big idea, and that can happen in unscripted as well as scripted," he said.

The ultimate goal, he said, is to be curatorial without dragging any feet, which is something he knows too well from two years of greenlight inactivity. "Sometimes I look out my window and I think, 'The Empire State Building was built in 13 months, and we can't get a TV show on the air in that time?'" He paused. "But I guess they didn't have to deal with as many agents."

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Caps that are purportedly used because of limited bandwidth, high usage, congestion, blah, blah, blah... problems that miraculously disappear when you spend a few extra bucks on a business plan(Comcast Business Class Internet is about $15 more than the comparable speed residential plan with none of the bandwidth restrictions and has better, faster tech support too). Caps are used to protect legacy video offerings such as cableTV and to increase bottomline profits and have extremely little to nothing to do with with any so called "bandwidth shortage".

I wish those prices were true universally, especially with Comcast. My Comcast 50/10 residential connection costs me $115/month, while the same Business Class connection costs $199.

Thankfully, even though I go over the cap, I live in the 4th largest research park in the nation, so I don't get into the top 1%.
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All that said, the desktop concept is still alive and well. Again, there are things I don't like that I hope don't make it to production (i.e. the dumbing down of the indexing system), in general it is a MUCH smaller footprint OS that uses the "plugin" approach to streamline things. By the way you can click "desktop" on the main metro screen (which you can set as default) and you get pretty much the W7 experience +- a few things.

Of course one giant minus is the Start Menu. It's fun watching average consumers try to figure their way out of the Win8 Desktop with no Start Menu:

http://youtu.be/v4boTbv9_nU
http://youtu.be/oyc1RVCXvAk

You're right. The best part about 8 is the speed upgrade, but Metro simply isn't intuitive with a mouse/keyboard...to me anyway (and many others it would seem). Once you get past the interface, 8 really is extremely similar to 7. The thing with WMC, to me, is that it always felt like it was designed with touchscreens in mind, and yet they remove it from vanilla-8. Go figure.
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Of course one giant minus is the Start Menu. It's fun watching average consumers try to figure their way out of the Win8 Desktop with no Start Menu:

http://youtu.be/v4boTbv9_nU
http://youtu.be/oyc1RVCXvAk

You're right. The best part about 8 is the speed upgrade, but Metro simply isn't intuitive with a mouse/keyboard...to me anyway (and many others it would seem). Once you get past the interface, 8 really is extremely similar to 7. The thing with WMC, to me, is that it always felt like it was designed with touchscreens in mind, and yet they remove it from vanilla-8. Go figure.

Last comment, then back to programming talk instead of OS talk ... To the original point, it is VERY short sighted/misguided for MS to assume local media is dead or a source of "revenue". This will bite them in the as their hold on the media library user base continues to bleed out.

Surely they must realize that the revenue will be tied to the user via the library interface don't they? I mean a couple bucks for codecs is a ridiculous line to draw. Seriously?? Bueller?.....Bueller? ....
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