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post #80461 of 87293
6/28/12 at 5:38am
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

yeah "forced" Such a shame they can't still beat up on 10 cream puffs and play only 2 decent teams so they could get ranked high enough to win a championship. How terrible they have to play in tougher conferences like everyone else. That is really unfair.

Ask Oklahoma, VaTech and Georgia how weak Boise State is. Or better yet ask the BCS schools that refused to schedule them. Boise State had an open invitation to go to any school to play them. I guess playing MAC and lower tier conference schools like SE Bumfrack State is better competition for teams like Alabama and Ohio State. Boise State isn't a powerhouse program, but the BCS schools made damn sure they wouldn't be.
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post #80462 of 87293
6/28/12 at 5:41am
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yeah "forced" Such a shame they can't still beat up on 10 cream puffs and play only 2 decent teams so they could get ranked high enough to win a championship. How terrible they have to play in tougher conferences like everyone else. That is really unfair.
The BCS is/was a farce for sure. But, the limitation on scholarships in conjunction with the various "props" to support multiple and multi-gender sports has allowed many more schools into the mix than ever were in the 60s, 70s, or 80s. The BCS just made it super obvious, even to the casual observer, that the system is grossly slanted to just a handful of schools. As TV made its way to many, many more campuses, more revenue showed up at those schools to spend on football. That it just one financial driver that has allowed football to grow at more and more schools.

This is just good growth of a system that has been broken for more than 50 years. Fortunately, the amount of money at stake made even the isolationist power brokers give in. I can't wait for it to move to 8 teams though. That will be pretty much representative of the number of valid teams each year.
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post #80463 of 87293
6/28/12 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by dad1153 View Post

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Amazon.com could see price advantage fade with sales tax
By Matt Krantz, USA Today - Jun. 27, 2012
Q: How badly will shares of Amazon.com suffer as it must collect sales tax in more states?
A: Ever since Amazon.com was founded, it's had a huge advantage over its brick-and-mortar rivals: Sales tax.
Consumers knew that if they bought something from Amazon.com, they were pretty sure they'd pay 5% or more below what they pay at a local store. And the reason was simple: Amazon hasn't been required to collect sales tax on the behalf of consumers for years in nearly all states.
But this big price advantage is now eroding. Since the company is based in Washington, Amazon has always collected tax there. Rules require any retailer with a physical presence in a state, called a nexus, to collect sales tax from consumers there. It's then up to consumers in other states who purchase from Amazon to submit their own state sales taxes, which is rarely done.
But as Amazon expanded, and opened facilities in various states including Kentucky, it's had to collect sales tax there as well. Currently, Amazon collects sales tax from buyers in Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota and Washington.
But the list is about to get longer. Amazon reached a deal with the state of California to start collecting sales tax on purchases in the Golden State. More states are likely to follow with new rules that require Amazon.com to collect tax.
California will be an interesting test case for several reasons. It's one of the biggest states to require Amazon to start collecting sales tax. It's also a state with one of the highest sales tax rates, approaching 9% in most cases. Suddenly, Amazon consumers will be facing 9% higher prices than they did before.
On its face, the increase charge in sales tax will likely erode Amazon's business. Amazon will suddenly see more intense competition from the Web sites of competing retailers with physical stores. For instance, BestBuy.com will now be on equal footing as Amazon.com on electronics, since before BestBuy.com had to collect sales tax while Amazon.com did not. Furthermore, consumers who don't want to wait for their products may return to stores, since the tax benefit is gone.
The stock, though, will hinge largely on how Amazon.com reacts. Amazon had to go to great lengths to avoid having any physical presence in various states to avoid triggering the tax collection requirement. But now that it's going to be collecting sales tax in many states, the company might be able to do creative things to add value.
Amazon has already said it plans to expand its presence in California. If Amazon is able to add value while collecting sales tax, such as offering same-day delivery, or provide showrooms for consumers to try products that are hard to shop for online, Amazon could turn the negative into a positive.
But if Amazon doesn't change its strategy, in light of imposing what is essentially a 5% to 9% price hike on investors, it's more than likely to lose market share.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/columnist/krantz/story/2012-06-26/amazoncom-collecting-sales/55846702/1?csp=ip
We have four Amazon distribution centers here in the Indianapolis area and Indiana still does not collect sales tax on Amazon purchases. This is frustrating to local retailers, and I believe Indiana will start collecting sales tax on Amazon purchases in 2014 if I remember correctly.
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post #80464 of 87293
6/28/12 at 7:05am
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Originally Posted by rebkell View Post

Same here, we lost or are going to lose our sales tax exemption and here it is 9%, but a better selection delivered to the door and and it's worth the prime subscription for free shipping on most everything. I hate the increase, but I'm with you I don't see me cutting down that much on my Amazon, still too convenient and time saved is worth it, I was never one to wander up and down the aisles anyway.

I have wandered up down aisles quite frequently and the usual result is that I go to Amazon to buy something. Why? Because the majority of stores carry almost nothing I want. They stock low-end products or only the most popular items. In the past few months I've gone out to buy specific items and could never find them. From fan heaters to camping lanterns to computer soundcards. Unless you will buy the first thing you see then physical shopping is becoming more and more useless.

Right now Best Buy is the only retailer with a selection of high-end televisions on display in my area and that's the only type of product I wouldn't buy online. I want to see a display before I buy it. If Best Buy shrinks any further I won't have a choice there either.
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post #80465 of 87293
6/28/12 at 7:40am
Any bets on who and when "Healthcare: The Made For TV Movie" comes out? Just sayin.....
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post #80466 of 87293
6/28/12 at 9:51am
NFL is moving 4:15pm Sunday kickoffs to 4:25pm to reduce overlap with the 1:00pm games.

4:05pm games stay.

I like it.
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post #80467 of 87293
6/28/12 at 10:29am
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

College football now finally officially moves to a 4 team playoff for 2014 season.
6 bowls alternate thru years the 1/4 & 2/3 games then the championship game goes to highest bidder kinda like a super bowl.
Possible 15 person committee selects the 4 teams & its a 12 (renegotiable?) year deal.
There will always be arguments but wouldve liked 8 teams....but this still beats the 2 team format.

Give them about 6 years under the 4-team format. Even though people will like it, "outsiders" will start clamoring for a 6-team or an 8-team format. I doubt the 4-team format will last the full 12 seasons. (FYI. I'm not sure I'll last the full 12 seasons rolleyes.gif)
Edited by humdinger70 - 6/28/12 at 10:37am
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post #80468 of 87293
6/28/12 at 10:36am

Actually, Amazon has showrooms in most states for demo purposes of merchandise.  They call them Best Buy.    

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post #80469 of 87293
6/28/12 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by mhufnagel View Post

Ask Oklahoma, VaTech and Georgia how weak Boise State is. Or better yet ask the BCS schools that refused to schedule them. Boise State had an open invitation to go to any school to play them. I guess playing MAC and lower tier conference schools like SE Bumfrack State is better competition for teams like Alabama and Ohio State. Boise State isn't a powerhouse program, but the BCS schools made damn sure they wouldn't be.

If Boise sate can't win the Big East title they don't deserve to play for the national title PERIOD. Same thing for TCU and the Big 12. Your logic is they should continue to play in cream puff conference to inflate their win totals and that proves they belong in the conversation. If they're only good enough to be 8-4 in a real conference they don't belong in the conversation. Did Bama play cream puffs out of conference? sure but you neglect to take into account the much harder conference schedule. Ironic how BSU 2 tough OOC games count and their 10 cream puff games don't. But Bama's 2 or 3 cream puff games count and none of their 9 or 10 hard games do. Funny how that logic works.
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post #80470 of 87293
6/28/12 at 11:00am
Rose Bowl to Stay on ESPN Through 2026

The Rose Bowl will remain on ESPN through the 2025-26 season under a 12-year media rights extension between ESPN and the Pasadena Tournament of Roses.

The deal goes into effect in the 2014-15 season.

The current Rose Bowl deal is an eight-year agreement with ABC that expires in the 2013-14 season. A clause in the deal allowed ABC to shift the Rose Bowl to ESPN once the latter acquired rights to the other Bowl Championship Series games.

Under the new deal, the Rose Bowl will air on ESPN each year regardless of whether the game hosts one of the new national semifinals. The game will also retain the traditional 5 PM ET timeslot on New Year’s Day (or January 2 in the event New Year’s Day falls on a Sunday).

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012/06/rose-bowl-to-stay-on-espn-through-2026/
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post #80471 of 87293
6/28/12 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by flint350 View Post

Actually, Amazon has showrooms in most states for demo purposes of merchandise.  They call them Best Buy.  
If you mean show room for the low end electronics ... I agree. But, there are literally thousands of higher scale electronic items that you can't see at Best Buy anymore. Someone said they could see high end TVs. In most Best Buys, that isn't the case anymore. They have a few choice stores that do, but not the general best buy. The regular stores get the best selling "read, total crap" budget electronics. I'm not even talking the mega $$ electronics, I'm just talking the higher level consumer skews from the major labels. Just a few examples, I have 3 Best Buys within 20 minutes of my house. You can't get the top consumer model Blu-Ray player from Sony, Panasonic or Samsung. You get from the 2nd tier down. Basically if it is > $200 blu-ray player, it isn't going to be stocked. Same with the TVs. They have the low end Panasonic Plasma, not the VT series. Heck they don't even have the GT series. Plus, they have 1 ST which is in those silly 3d demo boxes. The only "display" models are UT or below. That story repeats itself across electronic devices. Even our local "custom" shops now special order that stuff. The entire point of the custom stores was to go in and demo. That was the reason you'd consider paying retail for their stuff. Without that, they serve no purpose. I can special order anywhere.

It always makes me laugh when someone at Best Buy or HHGregg says "I can order that for you and have it here in a few days". That is the most ridiculous statement ever. If I wanted to order it and have it delivered somewhere, I'd have it ordered already and delivered to my house.
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post #80472 of 87293
6/28/12 at 11:20am
and your pay tv bill just spiked up again smile.gif
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Rose Bowl to Stay on ESPN Through 2026
The Rose Bowl will remain on ESPN through the 2025-26 season under a 12-year media rights extension between ESPN and the Pasadena Tournament of Roses.
The deal goes into effect in the 2014-15 season.
The current Rose Bowl deal is an eight-year agreement with ABC that expires in the 2013-14 season. A clause in the deal allowed ABC to shift the Rose Bowl to ESPN once the latter acquired rights to the other Bowl Championship Series games.
Under the new deal, the Rose Bowl will air on ESPN each year regardless of whether the game hosts one of the new national semifinals. The game will also retain the traditional 5 PM ET timeslot on New Year’s Day (or January 2 in the event New Year’s Day falls on a Sunday).
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012/06/rose-bowl-to-stay-on-espn-through-2026/
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post #80473 of 87293
6/28/12 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

But, there are literally thousands of higher scale electronic items that you can't see at Best Buy anymore.
Basically if it is > $200 blu-ray player, it isn't going to be stocked.

I dont buy that.

$249.98 -- Sony Smart 3D Wi-Fi Built-In Blu-ray Player Model: BDPS790

At bestbuy.com i did a store search on my zipcode & 8 of the 10 closest stores have it in stock.

oops forgot the store link:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&skuId=5016227&searchpage=true&_requestid=34632
Edited by dcowboy7 - 6/28/12 at 12:12pm
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post #80474 of 87293
6/28/12 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

and your pay tv bill just spiked up again smile.gif

Theres so many people i want to thank....

i would 1st just like to thank all the pay tv sports haters for helping out. smile.gif

oh theres that annoying music...ok thanks again everyone....gotta let billy c get on with his "jokes" now.
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post #80475 of 87293
6/28/12 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

But, there are literally thousands of higher scale electronic items that you can't see at Best Buy anymore.

I'm pretty sure they still sell those $3000 Monster HDMI cables.
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post #80476 of 87293
6/28/12 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

I dont buy that.
$249.98 -- Sony Smart 3D Wi-Fi Built-In Blu-ray Player Model: BDPS790
At bestbuy.com i did a store search on my zipcode & 8 of the 10 closest stores have it in stock.
none do here. I went to buy that model. "We can order it for you".
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post #80477 of 87293
6/28/12 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

NFL is moving 4:15pm Sunday kickoffs to 4:25pm to reduce overlap with the 1:00pm games.
4:05pm games stay.
I like it.

Someone made a good joke:

"CBS will still schedule "60 minutes" for 7:00pm even on their DH weekends"....as Arnold Swarzeneger? would say "thats a good 1." biggrin.gif
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post #80478 of 87293
6/28/12 at 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by BCF68 View Post

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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

But, there are literally thousands of higher scale electronic items that you can't see at Best Buy anymore.

I'm pretty sure they still sell those $3000 Monster HDMI cables.
Monster products are hardly what I'd call "higher scale electronics", Monster is targeted towards the ignorant consumer, the sort of consumer that's likely not going to be interested in a higher scale, higher quality item anyway. Best Buy is focused on the lowest common denominator of consumer, the sort that really does not know a lot about what they're looking for and prefer to have some idiot kid tell them what they want. Apple has made that into an art form, and they've been very successful at it because their products actually are 'higher scale electronics".
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post #80479 of 87293
6/28/12 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

I dont buy that.
$249.98 -- Sony Smart 3D Wi-Fi Built-In Blu-ray Player Model: BDPS790
At bestbuy.com i did a store search on my zipcode & 8 of the 10 closest stores have it in stock.
oops forgot the store link:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&skuId=5016227&searchpage=true&_requestid=34632

I needed a flat bed scanner for an emergency project here at work this week. I figured I would pick one up at BB. Nope, Best Buy doesn't stock flat bed scanners, I could have it delivered in 5-7 days. Amazon, next day.
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post #80480 of 87293
6/28/12 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

none do here. I went to buy that model. "We can order it for you".
Almost all the stores around here have them too. Though I wonder if it's due to the fact that we have other stores like Fry's Electronics around as well, so they need to keep up with the competition. Speaking of, when it comes to computer parts, not only do we have Fry's, but we also have Micro Center, and newegg's warehouse is literally 5-7 minutes away.

I still buy a lot of things on amazon (namely digital content like games), and I'll continue to do so even after the 9% sales tax hits. But I hardly ever purchase electronics or computer equipment from them anyway because local competitors, like Micro Center and Fry's, usually have better deals, even after accounting for sales tax. And newegg has a much wider variety of some parts. Amazon also lost some of my business when their free shipping option started taking days to be processed and shipped.
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post #80481 of 87293
6/28/12 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Monster products are hardly what I'd call "higher scale electronics".
Sarcasm detector not working today?
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post #80482 of 87293
6/28/12 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

We have four Amazon distribution centers here in the Indianapolis area and Indiana still does not collect sales tax on Amazon purchases. This is frustrating to local retailers, and I believe Indiana will start collecting sales tax on Amazon purchases in 2014 if I remember correctly.
Simon Properties will be giddy when/if Amazon starts paying taxes. But I really doubt their paying taxes will drive more foot-traffic into Simon malls; they should've started complaining 10 years ago.
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post #80483 of 87293
6/28/12 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Monster products are hardly what I'd call "higher scale electronics", Monster is targeted towards the ignorant consumer, the sort of consumer that's likely not going to be interested in a higher scale, higher quality item anyway. Best Buy is focused on the lowest common denominator of consumer, the sort that really does not know a lot about what they're looking for and prefer to have some idiot kid tell them what they want. Apple has made that into an art form, and they've been very successful at it because their products actually are 'higher scale electronics".
Yeah, I consider Monster to be crap as well. I was more referring to receivers, players, tvs, washing machines, computers etc... They always have the model that is one below the the lowest one I'd even consider.
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post #80484 of 87293
6/28/12 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by moob View Post

Almost all the stores around here have them too. Though I wonder if it's due to the fact that we have other stores like Fry's Electronics around as well, so they need to keep up with the competition.
My guess is you are around a very large metro area.
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post #80485 of 87293
6/28/12 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by kingpcgeek View Post

Sarcasm detector not working today?
Mine was broke too smile.gif
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post #80486 of 87293
6/28/12 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by Carl Jones View Post

1st. love your avatar & I've shamelessly copied. 2nd, as an Alabama graduate living far far away, OTA does me no good with UofA games. I HAVE to have cable for non local stuff. Sports in particular remains an issue for most of us even thinking about OTA.

Where I live in Georgia out of the 10 Alabama games that were televised last year 6 were on the OTA networks in HD and 4 were on the ESPN channels. I watched the 4 ESPN games on ESPN 3 but the picture quality was bad and the picture froze. For the National Championship game I went to Buffalo Wild Wings and watched it on four 80 inch screens and around 12 smaller flat panel TVs. All it costed was $10 for dinner and I didn't have to cook that night.

P.S. Roll Tide! Number 15 is coming soon. Nick Saban is the man.
Edited by Jedi Master - 6/28/12 at 5:13pm
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post #80487 of 87293
6/28/12 at 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by JMCecil View Post

Again, I understand that network television is the most popular. I also understand that in many areas, OTA is readily available. I can get 3 of the 4 nets OTA (I can get all 4, just not with a single antenna). I also understand that many have been forced off cable because of the economy. However, all of the pieces sighted seem to be using pseudo statistics to support their position that this is a HUGE wave of people and that it is because of the economy. First, I think it's just as likely that many people are going off cable without going OTA. I believe that because I know a few ADULTS > 35 who have gone %100 streaming. Which is just as anecdotal as what is in those articles. In other words, I don't buy "ditched cable = added OTA". I think that is a false assumption.

All people that don't have pay TV don't use OTA only. I have nephews around 20 years old and they are 100% streaming. I think a lot of young people are like that. There are posters on meesage boards that I post with are unhappy with todays programming and are 100% DVD. About 75% of my OTA viewing is MeTV for classic programs. Also the only sport I like is football which means I only watch sports 5 months out of the year. I like to watch football in High definition on my 50 inch Panasonic Plasma HDTV OTA. Streaming and Pay TV comes no where close to the HD picture quality you get OTA.
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post #80488 of 87293
6/28/12 at 5:11pm
The Southeastern Conference should get its own network like the Big Ten/12 has. Then, all games for every team would be televised live either on some network or another.
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post #80489 of 87293
6/28/12 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

We have four Amazon distribution centers here in the Indianapolis area and Indiana still does not collect sales tax on Amazon purchases. This is frustrating to local retailers, and I believe Indiana will start collecting sales tax on Amazon purchases in 2014 if I remember correctly.

Distribution centers are not retail outlets, hence the non collection of taxes, even if the product is delivered in state.
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post #80490 of 87293
6/28/12 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Distribution centers are not retail outlets, hence the non collection of taxes, even if the product is delivered in state.
According to most states’ interpretations of P.L. 86-272, distribution centers, offices, or warehouses constitute nexus for collecting sales tax on sales into that state.  Retail outlets in the state are not required.

Here in Illinois, if your trucks drive through the state, you have nexus for Illinois sales tax.
Edited by dattier - 6/28/12 at 5:48pm
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