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In some markets there is competition. For example, both FIOS and TimeWarner cable are available in most of Syracuse, NY. Ads for both systems can be seen on both systems, in addition to DirecTV ads. Sometimes they get a little, umm, vehement.
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Yeah, like they fought it tooth and nail and don't double-down every time cable gets involved in a retrains dispute, especially with the locals. smile.gif  But, the point is there was and still is no darned competition. And I'm not saying it wasn't the right decision, etc., just that no matter what the FCC says, there is no real competition. So we might as well let Comcast swallow up all the other cableco's and become the national cable provider. Maybe then there will be some real competition between them and DirecTV, although I just see bidding wars which will result in even higher fees, sigh.......
So you're saying the solution to very little competition is less competition?

That's like saying Clear Channel may as well take over every single radio station since so few offer local DJ's and original formats any more. Perhaps we need more banks to consolidate so it becomes even easier for the system to fail when a CEO of one gets stupid.

Instead, what we really need is the government to not only not allow these mergers, but to not allow these regional restrictions on providers. Cable and telco companies should be able to compete head to head the way they insist that the satellite companies have to (after failing to approve the Dish/DirecTV merger).

While the price of programming may not change much due to contracts with the channel owners, other services might see more competitive pricing. There also might be more of a drive to offer better equipment and better service.
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Speaking of Directv, I just turned my local WGAL NBC channel 8 on to watch the news, and they were off on directv, says experciening difficulties. Got on their website and apparently their roof collapsed from all the snow and they were evacuated and don't know when they will be back on air. We had 25 inches of snow yesterday. Now I'm worried about my roof. At least I can get the local NBC from Baltimore for the olympics. A week ago I was in Grand Cayman for a week, should have stayed there.
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So you're saying the solution to very little competition is less competition?

That's like saying Clear Channel may as well take over every single radio station since so few offer local DJ's and original formats any more. Perhaps we need more banks to consolidate so it becomes even easier for the system to fail when a CEO of one gets stupid.

Instead, what we really need is the government to not only not allow these mergers, but to not allow these regional restrictions on providers. Cable and telco companies should be able to compete head to head the way they insist that the satellite companies have to (after failing to approve the Dish/DirecTV merger).

While the price of programming may not change much due to contracts with the channel owners, other services might see more competitive pricing. There also might be more of a drive to offer better equipment and better service.

No, I'm only saying that the way things are now I see no difference IF it were only Comcast. Part of the problem with the cable model is that there is no consolidated competition against satellite. Comcast and the others fight for territory amongst themselves while DirecTV sits back fat, dumb and happy. The nets know that if a cableco balks at a price increase, they will eventually fold because someone (the other cableco's and/or DirecTV) will pay the price. I can't envision a time when all cableco's and DirecTV will act in concert to tell ABC, etc., to take their price increase and shove it. One of them will always give in and the dominos will fall.

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In many areas there is no cable alternative.
Your choices are, your cable provider (Comcast, Charter, TWC, etc.
Other options are Dish Network or Direct TV, which are satellite providers.
ATT Uverse or Verizon, if in your area.
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But the prices among all of them, except maybe DISH, are virtually the same once the promotions end. I've never priced DISH because I've never been tempted to switch to it. And, yes, I know one probably gets more for their money with DirecTV, but if I don't even need what cable offers, why should I be consoled by getting more of what I don't need from DirecTV? I also know nothing is going to change, but that doesn't make it less frustrating. I suppose I could be persuaded that prices are lower than they would be without what little competition there is, and maybe that's even true, but there is simply no way to know that. All I know is I'm paying $20 more this month than I did last month with no change whatsoever and that should be a crime. :)

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But the prices among all of them, except maybe DISH, are virtually the same once the promotions end. I've never priced DISH because I've never been tempted to switch to it. And, yes, I know one probably gets more for their money with DirecTV, but if I don't even need what cable offers, why should I be consoled by getting more of what I don't need from DirecTV? I also know nothing is going to change, but that doesn't make it less frustrating. I suppose I could be persuaded that prices are lower than they would be without what little competition there is, and maybe that's even true, but there is simply no way to know that. All I know is I'm paying $20 more this month than I did last month with no change whatsoever and that should be a crime. smile.gif

I have to chuckle a little bit when I see comments like "no change whatsoever." When channels like Pac-12 Net, BeIN Sports, etc., are added or Internet speeds are increased with NO rate hike, all I hear are crickets.
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TV Notes
No Simon Cowell Return For ‘American Idol’, Says EP; Show “Happy” With Ratings Opposite Olympics
By Dominic Patten, Deadline.com - Feb. 14, 2014

One place where Simon Cowell won’t be landing this season following the cancellation of the U.S. version of his The X Factor: American Idol. “No, he’s not going to be on the show at all,” Idol executive producer Per Blankens said today during a press event on the show’s new LA set. “I’ve heard he’s going to the UK to do X Factor,” he added. (He is.) The possibility of Cowell’s return after Fox last week axed X Factor was as one of several topics addressed in a sit-down with new Idol EPs Blankens, Jesse Ignjatovic and Evan Prager. The trio was joined by Idol’s new director Louis J. Horvitz, set designer Baz Halpin, and returning EP and FremantleMedia president of entertainment programming Trish Kinane. Also there was Fox’s David Hill, the Senior EVP of 21st Century Fox and former chairman and CEO of Fox Sports who was put in charge of the show and the now cancelled X-Factor in early June.

Related: ‘Idol’ “Listened To Viewers” & Changed Format, Says EP

Season 13 of Idol launched to a premiere low January 15 as the show has been trying to get its once mighty mojo back with a reconfigured judging panel and new showrunners. The show moves into its live shows next week, going head-to-head with NBC’s Sochi Olympics. That isn’t a big worry, Blankens told me. “The ratings are doing OK considering and there is really nothing you can do about the Olympics — we knew when we did the schedule that we’d be facing it. Added Kinane: “The ratings have stabilized and we’re very happy with where they are against the Olympics. We’re up over where we were in 2010,” she said.

“What we hope with the live shows next week and going forward is that we can reconnect with the fans and get them to come back home,” Blankens said. “A lot of people love Idol but I think they didn’t approve of the way some things went last year.” Among the format tweaks: for the live shows beginning Wednesday viewers will be able to vote at the beginning of the show as opposed to the end as in past seasons.

Formerly the EP for the Swedish version of Idol, Blankens was named as EP last June to replace the dismissed Nigel Lythgoe and Ken Warwick. The overhaul of the veteran reality show after a rocky Season 12 continued with the addition of Ignjatovic and Prager soon afterward. The duo, who go by the moniker Den Of Thieves, were appointed by 19 Entertainment. Fox’s deal with FremantleMedia North America and 19 ensures that each of the two producing companies appoints an EP who oversees the series in tandem. Ignjatovic and Prager came from a rich live producing background including the MTV Video Music Awards, MTV Movie Awards, CMT Awards, Critics’ Choice Movie Awards and VH1 Divas. Horvitz was named Idol’s new director in late December of last year having helmed the Academy Awards, the Emmys, the Grammys and the Kennedy Center Honors.

http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/simon-cowell-not-returning-american-idol-show-says/
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TV Notes
Bethenny Frankel’s Talk Show Canceled
By Tony Maglio, TheWrap.com - Feb. 14, 2014

Bethenny Frankel’s talk show “Bethenny” has been canceled, before it was able to reach a second season.

“Bethenny” had been struggling in the ratings. Nationally, the syndicated talk show averaged a 0.9 household rating this season, ranking No. 14 among its peer shows. Producer Telepictures made the call to end it.

“Bethenny” averaged a 0.7 rating among women 25-54 this season, tying as the No. 11 talk show in the key demo. It pulled in just over 1.1 million total viewers per episode, compared to Queen Latifah’s 1.5 million and Ellen DeGeneres’ 3.9 million.

“We are incredibly proud of the creativity, passion and professionalism Bethenny and her staff brought to daytime each and every day and look forward to finishing out the season with more great original episodes,” a Telepictures representative told TheWrap. “While we are disappointed not to be able to bring the series back for a second season, we remain convinced that Bethenny has a unique voice and that she will continue to be successful in the future.”

Frankel added: ”I had a blast doing this show with Telepictures. My entire staff worked so hard and made every day so much fun. I am thankful for the experience and for all my fans who tuned in every day.”

http://www.thewrap.com/betheny-frankel-talk-show-canceled-syndicated-telepictures-fox
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TV Notes
ABC Cancels ‘Pretty Little Liars’ Spinoff ‘Ravenswood’
By AJ Marechal, Variety.com - Feb. 14, 2014

ABC Family will not be returning to “Ravenswood,” as the cabler pulls the plug on the “Pretty Little Liars” spinoff after just one season.

“Ravenswood” was ordered to series in spring 2013 and seen as a solid addition to the net’s primetime lineup given the established fan base for “PLL,” which routinely trends on Twitter during broadcasts and averages just under 3 million viewers. “Ravenswood,” however, failed to gain traction with viewers during its 10-episode run, drawing less than half the audience of its parent series. Show aired its final episode on Feb. 4.

“Ravenswood” stars Tyler Blackburn and is exec produced by Marlene King, Joseph Dougherty, Oliver Goldstick and Leslie Morgenstein.

http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/abc-cancels-pretty-little-liars-spinoff-ravenswood-1201105185/
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TV Notes
CBS Swaps 'Crazy Ones' and 'Two and a Half Men' Time Periods, Schedules 'Bad Teacher'
By Michael O'Connell, The Hollywood Reporter's 'Live Feed' Blog - Feb. 14, 2014

CBS is playing around with its top-rated Thursday. The block, which saw comedies expand into the 9 p.m. hour for the 2013-14 season, will switch comedies The Crazy Ones and Two and a Half Men when they return from their Olympics-induced hiatus.

The network announced Thursday that Two and a Half Men will now get the bigger lead-in from the The Big Bang Theory/The Millers combo, airing at 9 p.m. The Crazy Ones moves to 9:30 p.m., effective Feb. 27. The change comes after both hit series lows last week.

Season-to-date, freshman The Crazy Ones and 11-season-old Two and a Half Men are completely even in ratings. Both average a 3.2 rating among adults 18-49, posting the exact same growth in live-plus-7 returns. The Crazy Ones has a slight edge among total viewers, averaging 11.6 million weekly viewers to Men's 11.5 million.

Midseason tinkering is not unfamiliar to CBS, and the hour remains a new one for the network. Mondays will see a similar retooling when How I Met Your Mother wraps its nine-season run at the end of March. 2 Broke Girls moves into the 8 p.m. half-hour to open up the night.

The Crazy Ones is now on track to complete its 22-episode season on April 17, leaving room for midseason comedy Bad Teacher. In the adaptation of the film, Ari Graynor stars as a former trophy wife looking for a new man while masquerading as a high school teacher. The sitcom debuts April 24 at 9:30 p.m.

Additionally, Unforgettable returns early. The summer drama takes over Undercover Boss' 8 p.m. Friday hour starting April 4 when the reality show wraps its season. In the last weeks of the 2013-14 season, CBS will air a three-hour block of scripted programs on Friday, as Unforgettable joins Hawaii Five-0 and Blue Bloods.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cbs-swaps-crazy-two-a-680405
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TV Notes
On The Air Tonight
SATURDAY Network Primetime/Late Night Options
(All shows are in HD unless noted; start times are ET. Late night shows are preceded by late local news)

ABC:
8PM - Movie: Dreamgirls (2006)

CBS:
8PM - Person of Interest
(R - Feb. 7, 2013)
9PM - 48 Hours Presents: The Whole Gritty City (120 min.)

NBC:
8PM - XXII Winter Olympics: Alpine Skiing, Short Track, Speed Skating, Ski Jumping, Skeleton (3 1/2 hrs.)
* * * *
Midnight - XXII Winter Olympics (60 min.)

FOX:
8PM - Rake
(R - Jan. 30)
9PM - The Following
(R - Feb. 10)
* * * *
11PM - Animation Domination High-Def (60 min.)

PBS:
(check your local listing for starting time/programming)
8PM - Austin City Limits (Arcade Fire) (R - Jan. 14, 2012)

UNIVISION:
8PM - Sábado Gigante (Three hours)

TELEMUNDO:
7PM - Movie: The Pacifier (2005)
9PM - Movie: Takers (2010)
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TV Review
Comedy Central’s ‘Tosh.0’: Five years later, it hurts so good
By Hank Stuever, Washington Post - Feb. 14, 2014

I have vague memories of giving Comedy Central’s “Tosh.0” a tepid review when it premiered, coming up on five years ago (“On Comedy Central, a net zero” was the headline, buried on page C7), and I wouldn’t remember those 491 words at all except for two reasons:

1. The offense taken by Tosh and his current or former staff (and his fans) about that review, which to this day reaches me through a second- or thirdhand source when I least expect it. (You mean they actually read their reviews? They remember the bad ones? This is always a revelation to any critic.)

2. My pangs of regret about that review, seeing as how “Tosh.0,” which returns for its sixth season Tuesday night, eventually became one of my “off-duty” shows that I watch every week simply for the sick, cruelly cool pleasure of it. Therefore, it’s not entirely fair that the only words I’ve published about the show were prematurely dismissive.

So, as I’ve done with “Community” and “Game of Thrones” and other shows I got half-wrong (or all wrong) the first time I reviewed them, this is a long-delayed Valentine to my secret dirty love, Daniel Tosh. If loving him is wrong, I don’t want to be right.

On camera, Tosh, who is now 38, appears to be everything his detractors say he is: jerk, troll, obnoxious man-brat, complete jackass. He wants only to say what one should not say, but unlike other comedians who specialize in that sort of thing purely for shock value, he instead has come to personify our worst impulses as anonymous online commenters.

In his television and comic persona (and perhaps in life), he accesses what could, in a humorless clinical sense, be described as rationalized examples of racism and sexism: He affirms long-standing and socially unacceptable stereotypes (women are bad drivers, for example) and then weakens those beliefs by making himself the smart-mouth who declares it so. It’s up to you to recognize, privately or by hashtag, if his riffs and rants ring true or if they ring abhorrently false. How well you process Tosh’s shtick depends on your age, to some degree, as well as the size of the stick up your rear.

Teenagers and college kids and regressive adults love “Tosh.0” — they get Tosh, they interact with Tosh online (he has more than 9 million Twitter followers) — because he meets them right where they are, intellectually and emotionally: The show’s preferred demographic audience is at that stage when they are learning, firsthand, that not everyone in the world thinks, looks or acts alike. The world’s diversity and demands sit like hot sauce on their young taste buds: What’s okay? What’s not okay? What can you say online? (You mad, bro?) I’m talking about that time of life when someone raises his hand in a Sociology 100 class (usually a dude, not always) and asks why, if there’s a Black Student Union, there can’t also be a White Student Union?

“Tosh.0” thrives on that kind of blundering exploration of race, class, gender, life. It is really a TV show about a man who never quite got past his post-graduation jadedness — or who has made a splendid act of pretending to be the guy who enters the world and immediately sets about disliking it.

Similarly, “Tosh.0’s” audience is caught in that tantalizing space where higher learning and a guiding set of ethics are either going to take root or not. “Tosh.0” thrives in a world where a little racism or misogyny or homophobia makes perfect logical sense — if you’re sort of an a-hole. “Tosh.0” invites everyone to be sort of an a-hole. Most shrewdly, it’s also an excellent place to make fun of a-holes.

After a video of a man cutting down a tree that then falls disastrously onto his house, Tosh remarks: “Next time go to Home Depot and pick up a couple of good, strong Mexicans like a normal person.”

After a video of a man using pliers to pull out what appears to be his neighbor’s last remaining upper tooth, Tosh says: “If you don’t go to a Jewish dentist, you might be a redneck.” (After the tooth is successfully yanked from the gum and the patient swigs Jack Daniel’s from a bottle, Tosh adds: “In fairness, the gingivitis did most of the work.” And one more: “This is the most painful thing he could imagine besides seeing a black person become president.”)

But let’s not overthink it, either. “Tosh.0” is still primarily a TV show about the Internet, literally and thematically.

It is filled with videos that capture moments of terrible decisions and painful outcomes: Skaters and urban acrobats and base jumpers mauling themselves in amateur stunts; a man attempting to slice a watermelon with a machete who instead cleanly slices his hand open. Broken bones sticking out of flesh; dogs defecating on car seats. Successful “Tosh.0” videos are the stuff of Russian dashboard cams capturing car accidents and convenience-store security cams capturing all of the idiocy that can possibly occur in a convenience store. It’s people accidentally setting themselves on fire. It’s impromptu surgery on an infected, ingrown toenail. It’s a whole lot of vomiting — most of it seen via phone video in portrait mode, vertically, instead of the more television friendly landscape (horizontal) mode.

And most of it has already been seen by millions, who were first linked to it from sites such as Reddit, Gawker, BuzzFeed, anywhere.

When it debuted in 2009, “Tosh.0” was billed as a digest of shockingly funny, gross or embarrassing videos that had recently gone viral, which provided Tosh, in his role as the ur-commenter, ample opportunity to mock the everyday people in them.

The show went on the air at just the point when your television and your computer and your phone all started to merge across platforms. My initial mistake was to view “Tosh.0” alongside its perceived competitors: G4 launched and later canceled a show called “Web Soup” (a spin-off of E!’s “The Soup” starring Joel McHale), in which Chris Hardwick snarked wise about viral videos. At the time, most of the late-night talk shows were dabbling in the latest Internet sensations; local news stations also discovered they could fill their 11 o’clock news with whatever YouTube was coughing up from the grand theater of human misbehavior making the digital rounds that day.

For all its venom, “Tosh.0” has somewhat ingeniously stuck with one of its original features, called a “web redemption,” in which the (sometimes unwitting) star of viral video who has been mocked globally by millions of viewers is invited to participate in a sketch — a redemption — in which Tosh makes more fun of them but also somehow makes it all better. Recent episodes redeemed a lovesick man who made an awkward birthday mash-note video for a female friend; or “Lohanthony,” a happily hyper-effeminate adolescent boy with a popular YouTube channel. This season’s redemptions will include a young woman who broke both ankles jumping off a roof at a backyard pool party and a troupe of dancing drag queens called the Prancing Elites, whose inclusion in a Christmas parade upset residents of a small Alabama town.

Often the people seen on the “web redemption” are all too happy to be getting more attention, but not always. Submitting themselves to Tosh’s whims would seem unwise — a surefire way to suffer more abuse, to expose an original embarrassment to even more embarrassment.

But along with his image as a sort of professionally licensed bully, Tosh covertly plays the sympathizer here. Unless I’m misreading certain cues, he seems almost protective of these accidentally, fleetingly famous subjects. “Tosh.0” is one of the few places where anyone bothers to seek out such people and find out what happened to them after the Internet chewed them up, spit them out and left them behind.

Tosh’s viciousness as a comedian extends to the culture at large. In a satirical artform dating back at least to David Letterman’s earliest derision of General Electric (which owned NBC back when Letterman was on NBC), Tosh loves to insult most of the rest of Comedy Central’s programming. Biting the hand that feeds you is, of course, no longer a counterintuitive branding strategy (the network gave Tosh another show in 2012, a cartoon about park rangers called “Brickleberry”).

The insults never cease: Tosh mocks blind people, deaf people, little people, gay people, transgender people, you name it. He doesn’t like spin classes or CrossFit enthusiasts, or people who propose marriage in grandiose public displays, or guys who grow “Movember” mustaches for cancer awareness, or those sometimes saccharine videos of returning soldiers surprising their families.

He also, as has been noted by his critics, is one of those comedians who doesn’t deprive his stand-up comedy of a rape joke or two. In a 2012 incident that doesn’t exist on video, a woman in an audience at the Laugh Factory shouted her objections to Tosh’s comment that jokes about rape can sometimes be funny; his response to her, reportedly suggesting it would be funny if she got raped right at that moment, set off a brief flurry of outrage and debate, mostly in the form of blog posts and essays from people who insist that there is no such thing as a funny rape joke and rebuttals from those who would never rule out the humor potential in any subject at all, even rape.

Tosh’s defensive apology (“[T]he point i was making before i was heckled is there are awful things in the world but you can still make jokes about them. #deadbabies,” he tweeted) was enough to evade one of the Internet’s epic, career-altering punishments. Perhaps he recognized most of the outcry as so much more digital noise and nonsense and futile expressions of fury. Maybe a man who made his fame as TV’s concept of the professional troll is therefore immune to detraction.

When I first reviewed “Tosh.0,” I thought that a TV show built around online content and the nature of the Internet was an unnecessary, even cheap example of clearinghouse programming. Later, I started to see Tosh as an essential misanthrope. Television is filled with comedians and hosts who all cultivate an image of rudeness and cutting remarks but who still never manage to be half as mean as the anonymous vultures who gather in the Internet’s shadows.

Tosh’s hilarious use of cruelty feels as black as the online soul, and as fleeting and ephemeral. The unfortunates in those viral videos get hauled off to emergency rooms with broken bones and concussions, and Tosh is unafraid to rub it in and make it worse with his jokes. Can we in all honesty praise this sort of thing? Somehow, eventually, yes.

Tosh.0
Returns Tuesday at 10 p.m.
on Comedy Central.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/comedy-centrals-tosh0-five-years-later-it-hurts-so-good/2014/02/13/643f4d94-9352-11e3-b46a-5a3d0d2130da_story.html
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TV Notes
Bethenny Frankel’s Talk Show Canceled
By Tony Maglio, TheWrap.com - Feb. 14, 2014

Bethenny Frankel’s talk show “Bethenny” has been canceled, before it was able to reach a second season.

http://www.thewrap.com/betheny-frankel-talk-show-canceled-syndicated-telepictures-fox
I had to actually look her up because I had no idea who she is.

When I saw her screen credits, I realized why.
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I have to chuckle a little bit when I see comments like "no change whatsoever." When channels like Pac-12 Net, BeIN Sports, etc., are added or Internet speeds are increased with NO rate hike, all I hear are crickets.


And I figured one of you would chuckle a bit, but there has been NO change to MY service. Once again I'm forced to forego pay TV or subsidize YOUR PAC-12, etc., ("your" meaning sports fans) and MY internet speed has not increased for a long time. If there have been any new channels added to MY service recently, I'm not aware of them. I didn't complain about the last increase when my internet speed increased a little, but THAT increase was only an aggregate $5. I can't imagine anyone believing a jump of $20 in a single month is justified, and that's only for my service without all the premium/sports channels, etc. My guess is they aren't getting enough people these days to sign up for the all the premium services, so they are spreading the cost around even more instead of making those who consume the expensive services PAY FOR THEM.

 

I also assume we are forced to pay for online streaming access whether or not we use it. I did notice that I can access CBS, ABC, etc., online now only by providing my log-in data, but I still can't access some channels I'd like to. I also know that CBS now provides more On Demand programming, but that doesn't add up to $20/mo in my book. Unfortunately, Cox and pay TV are not the only areas of life where this is happening and I'm happy you're so pleased with it all. It must be nice to be wealthy and not have to be concerned about rising prices for things and make fun of those of us who are.

 

And it's not like I'm cancelling service (yet), so I'm not "up in arms" over the increase, just stating my displeasure with it and once again trying to figure out how cable believes these kinds of actions are going to get them new customers and retain current customers. I'm sure they believe there are enough customers who will pay and those customers and Cox are laughing at the rest of us. Some of my summer will be spent figuring out just how much of my viewing is "habit" and I'm pretty sure my pay TV days will cease in 2015 when my daughter finishes her degree, if not before.

 

Oh, and based on my speed tests, etc., over the years, I'm pretty sure I'm getting much the same download speed I was getting when MY internet cost increased to $50/mo. It's now up to $75/mo and it's not the fastest service they offer. For the record, I didn't complain about those increases either and wouldn't be complaining now if the increase had been a more reasonable $5/mo. $20 is a 12.5% increase for me. I don't know about you, but I think that's a lot, no matter what services they've added. And that doesn't take into consideration that there was a $6/mo increase just last year. So chuckle all you want. :)

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I have to chuckle a little bit when I see comments like "no change whatsoever." When channels like Pac-12 Net, BeIN Sports, etc., are added or Internet speeds are increased with NO rate hike, all I hear are crickets.


And I figured one of you would chuckle a bit, but there has been NO change to MY service. Once again I'm forced to forego pay TV or subsidize YOUR PAC-12, etc., ("your" meaning sports fans)

Well, it *is* on basic cable in your area. I see, you are of the opinion that you should pay only for the channels you want. Alas, a la carte is another thread...
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Well, it *is* on basic cable in your area. I see, you are of the opinion that you should pay only for the channels you want. Alas, a la carte is another thread...

I don't care if it's on basic cable in my area. I didn't ask for it and it didn't cross my radar. You're saying we should gladly bow to the almighty cable/sat gods and keep paying higher rates just because they add unwanted channels to the lineup and increase internet speeds past what some of us really need? How stupid is that philosophy? Where does THAT end? Maybe you're happy because it's another useless sports channel, but what if they added a bunch of channels you didn't want and raised your rate for them? You're obviously happy paying what you do for the channels you watch and don't seem to care how many other useless channels you have to pay for as long as they keep adding more sports channels to keep you happy. Good for you. I hope the cost never gets too high for you. And when they add a channel other that sports that has some value, be sure to let me know. I'm sure I'll have to suck up another $26+/mo rate increase before that happens though. You sports fans sure enjoy sticking it to the rest of us, don't you?

 

And, no, I am not necessarily of the ala carte opinion, but I'd sure like more tier options. And not tiers with just one worthwhile channel to suck you in. The Sports and Info tier is a joke. What has one got to do with the other? Why do I have to take a bunch of sports channels to get 1 info channel I might want? I don't mind paying for 5 info channels to get the 1 I want, but sports? Come on, give us non-fans a break, will you? I just want true competition for my entertainment dollars vice fixed rates and collusion between the providers at all levels. Again, it must be nice to be wealthy and not have to care about costs. Maybe I'm beginning to understand why so many dislike the wealthy so much.

 

Oh, and if it really bothered me that much, I'd just cancel cable and find something else to spend my money on. However, it's been quite a bit of fun engaging you in another useless conversation that has no solution. Unfortunately, I grew up when things weren't the way they are today, filled with little more than greed, so it's hard to swallow what corporate America has become in many instances, cable being just one example. I feel sorry for the younger generations that have become accustomed to getting nothing for something to where it's become a norm.

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Well, it *is* on basic cable in your area. I see, you are of the opinion that you should pay only for the channels you want. Alas, a la carte is another thread...
I don't care if it's on basic cable in my area. I didn't ask for it and it didn't cross my radar.

I didn't ask for over 90% of the channels I get. I didn't ask for the beIN Sports Network. In fact, I lobbied against it. Nevertheless, I pay for it. I didn't ask for Fox Sports SD either (not a Padre fan.) I pay for that one, too. I never watch it. Solution: choose to not pay.
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Originally Posted by domino92024 View Post

I didn't ask for over 90% of the channels I get. I didn't ask for the beIN Sports Network. In fact, I lobbied against it. Nevertheless, I pay for it. I didn't ask for Fox Sports SD either (not a Padre fan.) I pay for that one, too. I never watch it. Solution: choose to not pay.

But we do in order to get what we want to watch. I don't like paying for certain things either but in order to watch the sports and shows I like I fork over the money every month. Choosing not to pay is always an option but it's not the right one for me or others.
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The cable operators have us all over a barrel. They control the broadband access points, their predatory pricing structure reinforced by a series of local monopolies which are tougher to dislodge than a dug-in tick. They also control the content delivery platform for television service and are themselves hostage to skyrocketing fee demands by content creators, led by ESPN and other sports outlets.

It's a perfect storm of consumer abuse and makes a mockery of the vaunted free market. Part of the solution would be to dismantle the local monopolies to get real competition, as was done with telephone service, or - even better - allow municipalities to set up wide-access wireless broadband. Treat it like another utility and watch speeds rise dramatically and prices drop like a rock. The bigger upside is the democratization of the Internet - universal access - which may be the gateway to prosperity in the coming decades.

But the cable lobby, and the politicians they own, will never allow that to happen. You can always cut the cord, but you're still going to be paying a lot more for much slower internet speed than most of the rest of the developed world and you're going to be giving up a lot of entertainment options. Kind of crazy in this, the country that invented the blasted system in the first place. Does this make sense to anybody?
Edited by archiguy - 2/15/14 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by domino92024 View Post


I didn't ask for over 90% of the channels I get. I didn't ask for the beIN Sports Network. In fact, I lobbied against it. Nevertheless, I pay for it. I didn't ask for Fox Sports SD either (not a Padre fan.) I pay for that one, too. I never watch it. Solution: choose to not pay.

It always comes down to that simple of a solution for some of you, doesn't it? :) Next you'll suggest I walk the 10 miles to work because I don't believe gas prices should be so high and I should drink water instead of milk because I think milk prices are also too high. You know, just because someone believes the price of something is higher than is could be doesn't mean they don't think the service is still worth the cost. Just what do you think will happen if no one complains about the price of something? They'll voluntarily lower it or keep increases to a minimum? Yeah, right. The day when the cost of pay TV exceeds the value is fast approaching for me. I guess I'm frustrated too because I think this has been one of the poorest TV seasons in a long time. Even old faithfuls like NCIS are getting long in the tooth for me. When I look forward to Downton Abbey more than many others, I think TV in general might be trying to tell me something. :)

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When I look forward to Downton Abbey more than many others, I think TV in general might be trying to tell me something. smile.gif

Maybe it's telling you it's high time you started supporting your local public broadcasting system, Dave. wink.gif
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Maybe it's telling you it's high time you started supporting your local public broadcasting system, Dave. wink.gif


Ha-ha, that's a good one. If our local station didn't mess with the national schedule so much, I just might, I do enjoy Downton and that's a big surprise. I missed the first 2 seasons though (had to catch up on Amazon Prime) and still have trouble finding This Old House Hour because they show it on different days/times, etc. So far, recording it this year hasn't been a big problem, but I do have to stay on top of recording the repeat showings.

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All I know is I'm paying $20 more this month than I did last month with no change whatsoever and that should be a crime. smile.gif

Over the last 10 years you are paying $60 more a month for more reality shows, more commercials, more screen clutter, more repeats and less variety. The pay TV companies just keep getting greedier and consumers continue to bend over and take it. I'm glad I bailed on pay TV 6 years ago. I get 18 channels (7 in HD) OTA and I have all my favorite TV shows and movies in my Home Video library.
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Over the last 10 years you are paying $60 more a month for more reality shows, more commercials, more screen clutter, more repeats and less variety. The pay TV companies just keep getting greedier and consumers continue to bend over and take it. I'm glad I bailed on pay TV 6 years ago. I get 18 channels (7 in HD) OTA and I have all my favorite TV shows and movies in my Home Video library.

And that works for you. I'm a 'one and done', meaning I will watch a series once and that it. Same with movies (unless it's the original Day The Earth Stood Still as I watch it every time it's on). I don't care to own movies and series that I will never watch again and then have to try and find space to store them all. Like Dave said above, just because the price of something is high doesn't mean we don't find value in it.
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And that works for you. I'm a 'one and done', meaning I will watch a series once and that it. Same with movies (unless it's the original Day The Earth Stood Still as I watch it every time it's on). I don't care to own movies and series that I will never watch again and then have to try and find space to store them all. Like Dave said above, just because the price of something is high doesn't mean we don't find value in it.

ya know, for $12 you can get your favorite move on Bluray or $6 on DVD and watch it anytime the mood hits you... wink.gif

http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Stood-Still-Special-Blu-ray/dp/B001G7PWYU/ref=sr_1_4?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1392512001&sr=1-4&keywords=the+day+the+earth+stood+still
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Over the last 10 years you are paying $60 more a month for more reality shows, more commercials, more screen clutter, more repeats and less variety. The pay TV companies just keep getting greedier and consumers continue to bend over and take it. I'm glad I bailed on pay TV 6 years ago. I get 18 channels (7 in HD) OTA and I have all my favorite TV shows and movies in my Home Video library.

For me, that's the frustrating part. We're paying $70/mo more for cable TV than we were paying in Colorado Springs in the early 90's, $30 vs $100. And truth be told, the only "real" difference is that the channels we watched then are now in HD and we have  a DVR vice a VCR. Believe it or not, but I think the only new channels we're watching are Fox, FNC and CW (I still miss the old UPN). Oh, and FOOD/HGTV which started around the time we moved to Phoenix, as well as Velocity of late. Now, maybe a 300%+ increase over 20 years is reasonable for less than 20 channels, but I doubt it. The price of a car comparable to my 1988 Grand Prix has only doubled in a slightly longer time and the price of a better 65" TV has actually gone down since we bought ours in 2003. Heck, even the price of gas in Phoenix is holding fairly steady relative to the average hourly US wage (10% in 1970, 13% now).

 

The difference between you and me though is that half of my favorites are on cablenets. Since that is gradually changing again, I feel the time is coming when what I watch will once again be on network TV and I'll dump cable. And don't get me started on my cellphone bill. :)

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For me, that's the frustrating part. We're paying $70/mo more for cable TV than we were paying in Colorado Springs in the early 90's, $30 vs $100. And truth be told, the only "real" difference is that the channels we watched then are now in HD and we have  a DVR vice a VCR. Believe it or not, but I think the only new channels we're watching are Fox, FNC and CW (I still miss the old UPN). Oh, and FOOD/HGTV which started around the time we moved to Phoenix, as well as Velocity of late. Now, maybe a 300%+ increase over 20 years is reasonable for less than 20 channels, but I doubt it. ...

 

 

That's a 233% increase, not a 300%+ increase.

Still, your point is well made. The price of a basic cable package (the locals along with such cable channels as TBS, USA, and ESPN) has been increasing at roughly 6% per year, much higher than the general rate of inflation.

And that's for a service that is by no means a necessity.

 

Things won't get any better, though, until consumers show that they are willing to simply do without the cable channels.

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... All I know is I'm paying $20 more this month than I did last month with no change whatsoever and that should be a crime. smile.gif

I have to chuckle a little bit when I see comments like "no change whatsoever." When channels like Pac-12 Net, BeIN Sports, etc., are added or Internet speeds are increased with NO rate hike, all I hear are crickets.

 

Well, now, when you say "NO rate hike", it is pertinent to ask "For whom?" and "For how long?".

 

If a customer is under a promotional package or has bundled services, he may not see a price increase for a while.

But you can be sure that somebody is paying for the cost of those regional sports networks. Oftentimes, it's the people who have been longtime customers, do not have bundled services, and just want a fairly modest level of TV service. The cable companies have no incentive to offer modest TV packages. They have huge incentives to cater to Americans' pathological obsession with televised sports, particularly football and basketball.


Edited by veedon - 2/15/14 at 6:51pm
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