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post #31 of 120
2/18/08 at 10:06pm
Sir,

Click on this and it will explain how there are no wires running from front to back.
http://www.floppyhead.com/2007/06/12...r-speaker-kit/
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post #32 of 120
2/18/08 at 10:23pm
He understands there are no wires running front to back, but there are wires running side to side from the rear "receiver" to the speakers. I've highlighted them in red here.

Basically he's saying it might save some wires running front to back, but you're still running wires of a certain length, and while it might work for some, if you're doing wireless, why not have a receiver for each of the two surrounds and save even more wiring?
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post #33 of 120
2/18/08 at 10:28pm
I guess something like this:
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post #34 of 120
2/19/08 at 12:47am
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Originally Posted by Tulpa View Post

He understands there are no wires running front to back, but there are wires running side to side from the rear "receiver" to the speakers. I've highlighted them in red here.

Basically he's saying it might save some wires running front to back, but you're still running wires of a certain length, and while it might work for some, if you're doing wireless, why not have a receiver for each of the two surrounds and save even more wiring?

Even if you have integrated amp + wireless receiver, you still need a power cable for it.....if you want strictly wireless, perhaps a battery operated unit would do the real trick

KEF has something very close to your "ideal" wireless set up then....

but still, it requires power cable.....and speakers cable....if i'm not wrong, it cost at least USD500-600....

so why's 10% THD be so bad for rear speakres?
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post #35 of 120
2/19/08 at 4:32am
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Originally Posted by SirDrexl View Post

I don't think the delay would be a problem, since the receiver should be able to compensate. The Audyssey or similar setup should locate the speakers as a little farther back than they actually are and set the "distance" accordingly.

This is exactly what happens, and now I know why! Using Rocketfish w/ Klipsch Quintet for the rear channels and it works pretty good. Have the volume at about 3/4 and the Audyssey placed them about 30' away from the listening position. I'm using a Onkyo 905 and hope this is a temporary configuration until I can find something better than Rocketfish (how good couuld this thing really be @ $100?).

Also, during Audyssey setup, I kept hearing a loud buzz in the Rocketfish speakers and was getting really pissed, then thought I started hearing the same buz from each speaker as it played the warlble tone. Anyone else hear that?
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post #36 of 120
2/19/08 at 8:22am
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Originally Posted by iMbEst View Post

Even if you have integrated amp + wireless receiver, you still need a power cable for it.....

Undoubtedly. I was just responding to carcollector who was talking about speaker wire and was apparently misunderstanding what SirDrexl was talking about.
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post #37 of 120
2/19/08 at 9:07am
donmiller,
Thank you for your reply. You have actually answered my original question. (How does this work with an Onkyo 705?)
I also agree, what can you expect from a product that is 100.00?, but, I have not been able to find anything else that will allow me to elinimate the wires from the Onkyo to the 2 rear speakers. Besides, as you say, it works!
Thanks again!
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post #38 of 120
2/19/08 at 10:55am
Can the Rocketfish work with only one rear speaker? It's hard to explain my living room setup, but it involves a "half wall" at the back, with a pass-through into the dining room.

I can hard-wire one of the rear speakers, because that run of wire will be almost competely hidden. But I can't hard-wire the other rear speaker. My problem with using the Rocketfish is that I don't have a full wall in the back, so I can't really have the Rocketfish receiver with both speakers running into it.

Like I said, it's hard to explain. Suffice it to say, my ideal setup would be one rear speaker hard-wired to the AV receiver, and the other one wireless. Can this be done?
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post #39 of 120
2/19/08 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by peter17319 View Post

Can the Rocketfish work with only one rear speaker? It's hard to explain my living room setup, but it involves a "half wall" at the back, with a pass-through into the dining room.

I can hard-wire one of the rear speakers, because that run of wire will be almost competely hidden. But I can't hard-wire the other rear speaker. My problem with using the Rocketfish is that I don't have a full wall in the back, so I can't really have the Rocketfish receiver with both speakers running into it.

Like I said, it's hard to explain. Suffice it to say, my ideal setup would be one rear speaker hard-wired to the AV receiver, and the other one wireless. Can this be done?

It could be done, but I wouldn't do it due to the tonal mismatch between 2 different speakers. What you could do though, is get 2 pairs of the Rocketfish and create a 7.1 setup, with a Rocketfish pair on each side.
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post #40 of 120
2/19/08 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by SirDrexl View Post

It could be done, but I wouldn't do it due to the tonal mismatch between 2 different speakers. What you could do though, is get 2 pairs of the Rocketfish and create a 7.1 setup, with a Rocketfish pair on each side.

Hmmmm, my AV receiver handles 7.1, so that's an interesting idea. Thanks!
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post #41 of 120
2/19/08 at 5:45pm
so why is 10% THD so bad for rear speakers? I thought it is alright.
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post #42 of 120
2/20/08 at 7:13am
So I have a 2 story house and where I currently view movies, tv, etc. are on the first floor. I have hardwood floors and a finished basement with a finished ceiling as well so going through the floor is not an option.

The way my walls are setup do not allow for me to run cable behind crown/base moulding and I don't think it's possible to run it through the ceiling (floor of the 2nd story) but I would entertain ideas on how to make that possible.

I also can't do the soundbar thing because my lateral walls have windows on them so there would be no reflection.

Would something like this Rocketfish work for me or are there better suggestions?
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post #43 of 120
2/20/08 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by ohlmsjm View Post

Would something like this Rocketfish work for me or are there better suggestions?

It would work, but I would make sure it's returnable in case you find the sound unsatisfactory.
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post #44 of 120
2/21/08 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by Tulpa View Post

It would work, but I would make sure it's returnable in case you find the sound unsatisfactory.

OMG, it's not like something costing you a lot. There is just that much a wireless adapter can do, is there really a need to return it just because you're not so happy about it? can't you test b4 buying?
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post #45 of 120
2/21/08 at 7:20am
iMbEst what did your test reveal with yours?
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post #46 of 120
2/21/08 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by iMbEst View Post

OMG, it's not like something costing you a lot.

I see it listed for about $100.

$100 is $100. Well within my threshold of getting my money back if I don't like it.

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There is just that much a wireless adapter can do, is there really a need to return it just because you're not so happy about it?

Is that a trick question? If I buy something and don't like it, and it has a return policy, hell yes I'm returning it.

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can't you test b4 buying?

I suppose you could, but will they let you take it home and test it?
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post #47 of 120
3/2/08 at 7:08pm
I have planned all along to use a product like this for my back surrounds 5.1.... I just ordered Polk Fxi-A4 for the surrounds. These are bipole/dipole speakers. Will rocketfish be able to run these speakers? They are not exactly the smallest of surrounds, but they aren't huge either.
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post #48 of 120
3/2/08 at 7:19pm
Here's another option w/o cheapy power amps: http://audioengineusa.com/store/prod...products_id=82
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post #49 of 120
3/3/08 at 1:15am
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Here's another option w/o cheapy power amps: http://audioengineusa.com/store/prod...products_id=82

That thing needs powered speakers though.
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post #50 of 120
3/3/08 at 3:06am
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Originally Posted by SirDrexl View Post

That thing needs powered speakers though.

yup, without any amplifier, it's a NO-NO!
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post #51 of 120
3/3/08 at 5:00am
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Originally Posted by sourbeef View Post

I have planned all along to use a product like this for my back surrounds 5.1.... I just ordered Polk Fxi-A4 for the surrounds. These are bipole/dipole speakers. Will rocketfish be able to run these speakers? They are not exactly the smallest of surrounds, but they aren't huge either.

I don't have this wireless product so I can't make a definite answer, but I will say the Polk FXi's love the power. I don't think 25 watts will push them enough to make them shine.
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post #52 of 120
3/3/08 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by iMbEst View Post

yup, without any amplifier, it's a NO-NO!

No, no. It's a yes-yes because you can use a decent amp instead of the crummy ones built into most such devices. A nice little amp like a Parasound Z-Amp is the way to go. Bigger and better, if one chooses.
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post #53 of 120
3/3/08 at 9:13am
i have had this for about 8 months now, used in in two different setups, and think it works great. i would strongly reccomend a power conditioner(on the receiving part) though as it seems to pick up a liitle bit of interference time to time. as far as the delay, many AV receivers have an adjustment for delay built in so you may just need to tweek it a little.
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post #54 of 120
3/3/08 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

It's a yes-yes because you can use a decent amp instead of the crummy ones built into most such devices. A nice little amp like a Parasound Z-Amp is the way to go. Bigger and better, if one chooses.

I agree.

I'd rather buy my own amp than rely on the weak amp in the Rocketfish kit.

The question now is still how good of a conversion is this Audioengine wireless link? Do you have any firsthand experience with it?
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post #55 of 120
3/3/08 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by warpdrive View Post

I agree.

I'd rather buy my own amp than rely on the weak amp in the Rocketfish kit.

The question now is still how good of a conversion is this Audioengine wireless link? Do you have any firsthand experience with it?

Just got one in and plan to report on it anon.
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post #56 of 120
3/3/08 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Just got one in and plan to report on it anon.

Cool. It would be nice to see if the thing is accurate throughout the frequency range, especially since they hint it can be used for subwoofers too.
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post #57 of 120
3/3/08 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Just got one in and plan to report on it anon.

Hi Kal,

I am also very interested in this device for wireless rear speakers and a sub.

As part of your testing, can you check interference from an 802.11g wireless router or AP?

Thx
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post #58 of 120
3/3/08 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by kokishin View Post

Hi Kal,

I am also very interested in this device for wireless rear speakers and a sub.

As part of your testing, can you check interference from an 802.11g wireless router or AP?

Thx

I do have an 802.11g/n network in the same house, so that will be noted. What's AP?
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post #59 of 120
3/3/08 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

I do have an 802.11g/n network in the same house, so that will be noted. What's AP?

AP=Access Point or WAP=Wireless Access Point.

Some folks have a wired router with a WAP connected. Most folks probably have a wireless router. Testing within your 802.11g/n network environment is what I was requesting. Thx
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post #60 of 120
3/4/08 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

No, no. It's a yes-yes because you can use a decent amp instead of the crummy ones built into most such devices. A nice little amp like a Parasound Z-Amp is the way to go. Bigger and better, if one chooses.

well, does real channels requires such a "big bang"?
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