Toshiba XS32, XS54, XS35, (all XS models) - HDD swap info!!! - Page 8

Just out of curiosity, are the original drives you guys are replacing in the XS32 Maxtors or Seagates? I ask since both XS32s I deal with have Maxtor drives, and are both the older ZL10 revision. I'm wondering if anyone's crossed-brands successfully and replaced a Maxtor with a Seagate?

I'd order a couple of those if I knew all would work ok... problem is they'll probably sit on a shelf until needed and by then it'd be way too late to get replacements!

HH37 - Thanks for the confirmation on a full usable 160GB for the ST3160022ACE on the XS32.

RBARTYCZAK and CLARKEBAR - I look foward to your "ACE" results for added confidence in the swap. If these go well, it gives rise to the question of what other drives like the ST3160021XXX, ST3160023XXX, AND ST3160122XXX would do. I know, one drive at a time.

RBARTYCZAK - On a slighty different subject, I'm glad your GSA-4167B worked well. I've used 3 of these with great luck on all media except Princo -RW which it will almost never load. Curiously, the GSA-4120B uses that media just fine.

Hi guys,

My 80GB original is a Seagate ST380012ACE.

Just formatted the new 160GB Seagate ACE...works as reported. Am now copying a Movie title from burned disc to HDD to test for problems/errors. Don't expect any but this is a refurb drive so you never know. At least it has a 180 day warranty so I will likely keep this unit in as planned for the next 6 months and store the original. If this one works out without HDD hiccups in the first few weeks I'll get at least one more and tuck it away.

I think I paid around $400 new for my XS32 back in Mid '04 or thereabouts. With the new LG 4167B and the 'new' Seagate, the total fix for me with my sourcing comes to $110 or so shipped. Only loss realized thus far is any unfinalized disc content (-R, -RW), which for me was likely just junk anyway as I always immediately finalized a serious burn.

Very glad to get RAM back in operation and will now likely only use RAM for burning temporary content to disc since my previous 'money-saving' idea of using DVD-RW for that purpose has gone 'poof' with the old RAM drive failure.

C'est La Vie.

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Originally posted by jmscott42
Just out of curiosity, are the original drives you guys are replacing in the XS32 Maxtors or Seagates? I ask since both XS32s I deal with have Maxtor drives, and are both the older ZL10 revision. I'm wondering if anyone's crossed-brands successfully and replaced a Maxtor with a Seagate?

Well, I suppose I may be the first guinea pig for the crossed-brand swap. When I replaced my DVD burner, I noted that the hard drive was a Maxtor (model 4R080L0 I believe). I never even considered that changing makes of hard drives would be a potential problem. Of course, based on how finicky the XS32 is with other things, I suppose I should have ruled nothing out.
However, I am remaining very optimistic inasmuch as the XS32 came with both the Maxtor and Seagate 80GB drives as "standard" equipment.

Of course, one of the variables could be the Software version of the XS32. Mine, like yours jmscott42, is the older ZL10. I confirmed that my hard drive has been shipped and am hoping to get it by the weekend. I will attempt to free some time up and give this a shot. I'll post results on my attempt.

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Originally posted by TapeBeGone
If these go well, it gives rise to the question of what other drives like the ST3160021XXX, ST3160023XXX, AND ST3160122XXX would do.

I actually have an ST3160023A resting in my computer right now. I believe that I read that someone (maybe rickc5) had unsuccessfully tried to swap an ST3160023A into his XS52. As the XS52 and the XS32 seem to be so operationally similar, I decided not to even try the swap. Again, maybe I am reading too much between the lines with these units. If my 22ACE swap works, maybe I will attempt a swap with the 23A just to confirm.

Of course, the 23A is a 7200-rpm drive with 8-MB cache while all of the original drives (and successfully swapped drives) are 5400-rpm drives with 2-MB cache. This is probably the main reason that I decided not to try to swap my 23A.

This stuff does make for some interesting tinkering...

I love the tinkering ...especially when it not only works but you also get a better machine. Even though I didn't hunt down the lowest prices out there I would gladly do this all over again.

I want to thank all those great guys who went down this road before me and made it easy...and also give a thumbs up to those still trying to expand the database.

For the record:

XS32 Software version: ZL11
RAM Drive: DL11 (LG GSA-4167B)

I am getting a code 7061 on my xs34. I tried putting in a Maxtor 120 GB from my PC and it gives the same code. When I put the DVR HD in my PC i use Disk Manager to see it but it is not regognized by windows only the bios picks it up. Is it OK to format it in the PC or will it not be recognized by the DVR after that. When I plug in the DVR with either HDD it says wait then after about 20 secs it beeps three times and displays the code. Originally it displayed "7000" then after I changed the jumper it said "7034" and after putting in the Maxtor it displays "7061". Being that it displayed the same codes for both HDD's at each time I am ruling out that the HDD is bad. I am thinking more along the lines of Motherboard but I am no repair man by any means. Any info would be greatly appriciated. I have seached around this formum a bit and that is what gave me the courage to open it up and dink around with it. I have experience building PC's and the guts of this thing were way more simpler than I imagined.

The first post in this thread has all the relevant info for all XS models...both known HDD successes and failures. I believe your 120 Maxtor is a no-go in the XS34. The Seagate 160GB ST3160022A or ACE will be suitable.

You can always try formatting drives in the PC whether the particular drive has a problem or not but that doesn't guarantee any usage when installed in the XS34. Only certain drives with certain drive characteristics are appropriate for these XS models.

For those interested my original drive is a Seagate (ST380012ACE).
Software Version ZL10
DVD drive Software SL00.

I've swapped the bad burner with a LG/GSA-H42LK.
The new HDD is ST3160022ACE (yes, all 160GB format).

For those following my problem recording Copy Protected material I can say that I'm 99% sure that it has nothing to do with the new HDD. I got bored and put the original HDD back in the XS32 and it to would not record the programs on my Dish Network DVR. I'm fairly certain that Dish has upgraded my 522 receiver and this is the cause of my problems.

I can record Copy Protected material to the HDD if I am recording it as it's being broadcast. However, I can no longer record it to my Dish DVR, play it back, and record it to the XS32.

Anyway, the HDD swap works fine and the problems I'm having with copy protected material are just coincidental.

Lastly, I eagerly await someone swapping something larger then a 160GB into an XS32.

[quote=HH37;11425223]I can record Copy Protected material to the HDD if I am recording it as it's being broadcast. However, I can no longer record it to my Dish DVR, play it back, and record it to the XS32.
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I've been having the same problems with Comcast. Channels, or show that i once were able to record and transfer to DVD are now showing up with the copy protection. The way i've been able to get around it is running it through my polaroid recorder before the Toshiba. It does not pass the protection through and i'm able to transfer to DVD. I think this is going to show up more and more. My Liteon and and other inexpensive recorders don't have this problem. It seems to be only with the name brand, high end recorders.

Thanks, I have a new Polaroid that I never got around to using because I disliked the features. Hopefully, it can work as an expensive filter.

Hi,
I'm first time poster.

I have a Toshiba XS34 which cannot burn DVDs anymore. It plays DVDs fine, but when I put in a blank DVD +R it gives an error saying it is damaged or needs to be cleaned. I've used DVD Lens cleaner disc thinking that might help, but it didn't.

In the thread, I have seen that the LG 4167B and LG GSA H42LK burners work in XS32 machines, but can anyone confirm for me if they will work in my XS34?

Is there any additional items I need to be able to swap out the DVD drive? I've seen that some of the models have special connections. How about on the XS34?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Lou

LWN55

I only have an XS32 but reading the XS34 manual shows that it too only takes DVD-R/RW discs. On the the good side, that means that your burner may be fine (although the Tosh burners are pretty bad until you get to the DR4). Also from what I understand, the DVD-R/RW discs tend to be more read compatible with other drives.

I just successfully swapped and tested a Seagate 200GB HDD in my XS54 machine. The specs of the HDD are as follows:

Seagate
Barracuda 7200.7
200 Gbytes

Model: ST3200822A
S/N: 3LJ3KXJ2
P/N: 9W2844-301

HDA P/N: 100314751
Config: A5C-08
Firmware: 3.01

Date Code: 05287
Site Code: AMK

Also note that this drive is a retail kit drive, not an OEM as the ACE drives are. The machine also picks it up as being a 200GB drive, and formats and allocates the correct time for the space given.

By the way, has anyone heard from RickC5 lately? I've looked around a little, and his last activity seems to have been around the 7th of July. I've often heard him mention that his job can keep him tied up from time to time, but I find it strange that he hasn't at least checked in on us once or twice (the rowdy bunch that we are ).

Anyway, those are the numbers for anyone who can use them.

BW

That's great to know. The list keeps growing - thanks.

Out of curiousity, what was the original drive you replaced? (that may be helpful as well, I don't know if anyone has successfully swapped Maxtor->Seagate or vice versa)

Didn't think of that. The original drive was:

Maxtor DiamondMax 10
6L250R0 (six-L-two-five-zero-R-zero)
250GB PATA133 HDD

I have swapped Maxtor>Seagate, Seagate>Maxtor before in my KX50 units. The KX50/XS54 service manuals also mention both Maxtor and Seagate model hard drives, although I can see the importance in your question considering that the new 200GB HDD wasn't in the XS54 service manual.

BW

My experience with the XS54/55 is that they are very liberal with HDD swaps. I have an external drive enclosure set up with an XS55 so testing different drives is very easy.

Right now I'm running Maxtor, Seagate and Western Digital 250GB dives with the XS55. It works fine with with these three brands and probably others as well.

Also, as far as the size of the drive the XS55 will properly format an 80GB drive for example. 160GB drives as well. I installed a 320GB Seagate but the XS55 formatted it for 250GB. I don't have all of the drive model numbers handy right now but I think I may have posted this earlier in the thread with model numbers.

Hi I am new to this site and find all the info here really interesting. I have read from the first post all the way to the end and have not seen anyone post anything about multiple drives in the xs32. is this possible now a 160 gig hd can be used? The only reason I ask is that I have been looking on e-bay and the cheapest xs54 I have found is like $ 350, I rather spend that on hard drives than on a new machine.

thanx in advance
scorpio3

Do you mean multiple drives as in an external enclosure? I think someone on the Philips 3575 thread is doing this. I don't know of anyone doing this with any Toshiba model with which I am familiar.

If you mean drive switch/in/out without issues, many of us are doing this very thing.

Hi everyone,

Finally got around to the hard drive replacement. As I stated earlier, I got a factory refurbished Seagate ST3160022ACE 160GB to replace the original Maxtor 4R080L0 80GB. Result: Operation successful (and the patient lives)!

I also have the older ZL10 firmware in my RD-XS32. As others told me, the firmware seems to make no difference for this replacement.

Now that I have replaced/upgraded both the hard drive (from 80GB to 160GB) and the DVD burner from the original (junk) Toshiba drive to the LG-GSA-4167B, I am one very happy recordist.

I want to again thank all those that have been willing to put their equipment on the line to try these modifications and to document their results so that others like me can benefit. I hope to have many more years of successful recording.

I was refering to multi drives in an external enclosure. nextoo says he is doing this with the xs55 in the post above my original post(#228). I thought that it said xs54 but it says xs55, maybe this is possible with xs models.

thanx

That's great news! Those are the drives you got from geeks.com, correct? I just received 2 that I ordered in hopes they'd work.. (and I think I got the last 2, for now, as they went out of stock as soon as my order went through!) Pretty surprised they look to be officially factory refurbished drives, in great condition.

Actually it is only one drive at a time. In order to swap drives it requires a power cycle. Again - one 250GB drive at a time.

When you swap your drives do you actually unplug the unit from the power or just have it in off (standby) mode. I'm assuming you unplug it when you refer to a power cycle. I have the swapable drive setup with my Polo but i'm not sure if i will do the same with the Tosh.

What i really want to get is a player that will play dvd vob files. Preferably iso images. I know there are a few out there but i'm not sure which is the best. Then i would put all my dvds on hard drives and have a home VOD.

I understand that it is only one drive at a time with a power cycle. I guess what i was asking is has anyone tried this with the xs32 and or is it possible?

thanx scorpio3

I have successfully swapped back and forth between the original drive and the new 160GB drive on my XS32 and it reads and records to both drives. However, I have not gotten around to building an external tower for all of my drives. The XS-32 should recognize whichever drive is plugged in as long as it has been formatted. I believe there are pictures and instructions on multiple drives linked to one machine in the burner replacement forum. It seems that if you can physically swap drives on the XS-32 that building a multi drive tower should work.

I'm debating weather I should build a tower or just get a bunch of IDE/USB hard drive enclosures and put a IDE/USB adapter on the XS-32. I'm leaning towards the later. I figure that way whenever I want to expand I can just buy more drives and enclosures. I just have to swap the power and USB cables and I'm in business.

Has anyone had any problems going from IDE to USB? I don't think there would be but if there is I'd like to hear about it before I buy the enclosures.

JMScott42,

Actually, I found my Seagate HDD on eBay. A fellow was selling two "factory" refurbished units. I got one of the drives for $32.72 (incl. shipping). The drive was wrapped and had the factory sticker on it. The drive appeared to be in excellent condition. As I said, it installed and formatted without any problems. Since I had replaced the DVD burner and had previously removed all the tape once before, the total HDD swap took less than 20 minutes. The formatting was done in about 10-15 seconds. My RD-XS32 in now acting far better than it ever has. I've done at least as much recording and burning in the last month than I have since I've owned the recorder (almost 2 1/2 years).

This is because I used to have to record on a DVD-RW and run it through my computer to get a usable DVD-R. Now it is working the way I expected it to work when I bought the recorder; burning straight to DVD-R disks. And, as added bonuses, it uses any media that I have thrown at it and it burns the DVDs (-R and -RW) much faster than before the replacement.

So, for less than $65.00 in parts (DVD burner and 160GB HDD) and less than two hours of my time, I have a wonderful DVDR-HDD recorder that I would now highly recommend. Too bad that used ones are difficult to find and the "proper" replacement parts are tough to find too!

Now I will be moving on to a sonotube subwoofer project that I have been planning for about six months. If only I could find about 3' of 16" or 24" diameter sonotube! The concrete suppliers and contractors in my area seem to have never heard of these concrete forms. Or, at least, so they claim.

That actually sounds like a great idea if you could go IDE to USB, I would be interested to hear if anyone has had a problem also. Great idea HH37.
scorpio3

The Toshiba RD-XS34SU I posted in #216 is giving me this code 7061. I forgot to mention that I had it repaired because the DVD drive was not working. They replaced the drive with a LG brand model GDA4163B. It does not support the DVDRAM but it does read more formats than the original drive so since I never used the RAM I am happy. It was two weeks after this repair and about 20 burns after that the unit gave me the 7061 code. The HDD is not bad. I took it out and put it in my PC. Since I got most of what I wanted burned before it gave me the code I formated the HDD in the PC and it works fine. When I put it back in the XS34 I was hopeing it would boot to the screen that ask to initialize. No luck, after 20 secs of "wait" i get the "err 7061" and I can not boot it up! I can't even got a screen on the tv to go through the set up menu! Any help will be nice. Could the problem be that the drive is different from the original? If so I will take it back to the repair shop and tell them I need the original drive model instead of this one. I really like the convienence of the DVD/HDD combo and really don't want to move away from that! Do the current DVD recorders on the market give you the same options to make DVD's as this unit? I mean like chapter divide, thumbnail selection, menu create, etc...? Thanks in advance for any info.

I've tried it on different machines without success. I'm not sure if I tried it with a Toshiba though. IDE always seems to work so I went with an external enclosure that contains removable IDE drive trays. Works great.