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post #61 of 461
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Originally Posted by nextoo View Post

Thanks!! Here's a source for parts:

http://www.ued.net/catalog/cat_item_idx_5324.html

Oooh, great source, especially for cables and such! The other's that I'd found, like partstore.com, don't have as good a selection of XS series parts.

Although, I'm still a wee bit happier with my 80GB HDD for $32, rather than theirs for $389.
post #62 of 461
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Originally Posted by rickc5 View Post

XS34 -- http://www7.toshiba.com/secured/tass...-XS34SC_SM.pdf


Thanks for the quick + easy links! I am getting a 404 on the XS34 manual, though... downloaded the rest for future reference.
post #63 of 461
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Originally Posted by jmscott42 View Post

Thanks for the quick + easy links! I am getting a 404 on the XS34 manual, though... downloaded the rest for future reference.

Try this one:

http://www7.toshiba.com/secured/tass..._SU_SC_SVM.pdf
post #64 of 461
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Originally Posted by nextoo View Post

Try this one:

http://www7.toshiba.com/secured/tass..._SU_SC_SVM.pdf

That works-- thanks!
post #65 of 461
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Thanks, I fixed the link in my above post.
post #66 of 461
I tried again to swap a KX50 HDD. First I issued Zoom 701 Zoom with RC. It worked fine, displays INIT OK and powered off unit. After this I replaced HDD and when I powered on recorder stucks with error code ER7034. Then I changed HDD jumper position from cable select (default) to master and units powered on ok, but after a few seconds it stucked with error code ER7061.
I don't understand why Toshiba makes a HDD recorder where is impossible to swap HDD. I live in Brazil, and here Toshiba service centers don't fix HDD recorders. So my US$ 400 KX50 with 1 year of use is garbage........
post #67 of 461
I tried twice and got the same thing both times. At least it still works with the orignal HD. Supposedly you can clone the original HD using Linux, in theory anyway, but the drive would have to be useable.
post #68 of 461
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

I tried twice and got the same thing both times. At least it still works with the orignal HD. Supposedly you can clone the original HD using Linux, in theory anyway, but the drive would have to be useable.

That's been tried and doesn't seem to work....... (I think it was rickc5 who tried that..)
post #69 of 461
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Originally Posted by jmscott42 View Post

That's been tried and doesn't seem to work....... (I think it was rickc5 who tried that..)

It wasn't me. mattack tried to clone an XS32 HDD and wasn't able to get the new HDD to work. I've been able to freely swap three Maxtor HDDs (one new HDD and two XS32 factory HDDs) between two XS32s with no problems whatsoever. I still think it's hard to believe that Toshiba would have prevented HDD swaps on the KX50/XS52, while providing for them on other models. We'll have to wait for nextoo to get tired of disassembling XS35s and XS55s and try a KX50 HDD swap.

I did notice that the XS52/KX50 service manual doesn't list a replacement HDD part number, while the other service manuals do. Printing error or ?

Don't give up hope yet. Another possibility is to buy a new Maxtor 4R080L0 80GB HDD and try it in the KX50.
post #70 of 461
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Originally Posted by nextoo View Post

Thanks!! Here's a source for parts:

http://www.ued.net/catalog/cat_item_idx_5324.html

Umm, the price for the DVD-RAM drive in the XS32 is listed as $563.66!!
post #71 of 461
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Originally Posted by rickc5 View Post

I did notice that the XS52/KX50 service manual doesn't list a replacement HDD part number, while the other service manuals do. Printing error or ?

Don't give up hope yet. Another possibility is to buy a new Maxtor 4R080L0 80GB HDD and try it in the KX50.

rickc5, XS52/KX50 service manual list this:

HDD1 -------- HDD,160GB,4R160L0CS,Maxtor ,XS52SU/C
HDD1 -------- HDD,160GB,ST3160022ACECS,Seagate ,XS52SU/C
HDD1 -------- HDD,80GB,4R080L0CS,Maxtor ,KX50SU
HDD1 -------- HDD,80GB,ST380012ACECS,Seagate ,KX50SU


My KX50 still works for DVD-R/RW/RAM recording. But if I try to record to HDD it shows: Recording error.

If someone know about a successfull KX50 HDD swap, please let me know.

Thanks........... Fernando
post #72 of 461
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Originally Posted by Fernando.cesar View Post


My KX50 still works for DVD-R/RW/RAM recording. But if I try to record to HDD it shows: Recording error.


Your KX50 does RW? Mine is RAM, DVD-R only.
post #73 of 461
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

Your KX50 does RW? Mine is RAM, DVD-R only.

Sorry. Mine is only DVD-R and RAM too......Fernando
post #74 of 461
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Originally Posted by Fernando.cesar View Post

rickc5, XS52/KX50 service manual list this:

HDD1 -------- HDD,160GB,4R160L0CS,Maxtor ,XS52SU/C
HDD1 -------- HDD,160GB,ST3160022ACECS,Seagate ,XS52SU/C
HDD1 -------- HDD,80GB,4R080L0CS,Maxtor ,KX50SU
HDD1 -------- HDD,80GB,ST380012ACECS,Seagate ,KX50SU

My KX50 still works for DVD-R/RW/RAM recording. But if I try to record to HDD it shows: Recording error.

If someone know about a successfull KX50 HDD swap, please let me know.

Thanks........... Fernando

Fernando - I meant that all the other service manuals have a Toshiba replacement part number in addition to the HDD model number. For example, the XS32 lists HDD1B P000401250 HDD,4R080L0, but the KX50/XS52 doesn't have a similar P000xxxxxx. I didn't see a replacement HDD for the KX50/XS52 from the supplier nextoo posted, but HDDs for the other models were listed. So, I'm wondering if it was just a typo, or if there may be another reason.

I'm guessing that the CS after the model number just indicates cable select, and I've used a brand new Maxtor 4R080L0 in my XS32. So, if a KX50-KX50 swap doesn't work, the only other possibilities are to try a new HDD, or try to clone one.
post #75 of 461
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Originally Posted by rickc5 View Post

Fernando - I meant that all the other service manuals have a Toshiba replacement part number in addition to the HDD model number. For example, the XS32 lists HDD1B P000401250 HDD,4R080L0, but the KX50/XS52 doesn't have a similar P000xxxxxx. I didn't see a replacement HDD for the KX50/XS52 from the supplier nextoo posted, but HDDs for the other models were listed. So, I'm wondering if it was just a typo, or if there may be another reason.

ok, rickc5. Now I understood what you meant.

I tried a brand new Seagate HDD in my KX50, but it didn't work either......
post #76 of 461
I would think if another drive from the exact same recorder doesn't work, nothing will, unless the drive could be cloned, which I guess someone here tried and it didn't work.
post #77 of 461
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

I would think if another drive from the exact same recorder doesn't work, nothing will, unless the drive could be cloned, which I guess someone here tried and it didn't work.


Maybe Toshiba uses HDD serial number to avoid HDD replace. I still don't understand why not allow HDD replace. The frequently failing part of these recorders is HDD.
post #78 of 461
For those who are able to swap drives easily on an XS32:
Can you use any 80GB HD (WD seagate, Maxtor, 7200rpm, 5400rpm etc) or does it have to be the same as the one that is in your particular unit???

Thanks
TJB
post #79 of 461
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Originally Posted by tjbrooking View Post

For those who are able to swap drives easily on an XS32:
Can you use any 80GB HD (WD seagate, Maxtor, 7200rpm, 5400rpm etc) or does it have to be the same as the one that is in your particular unit???

Thanks
TJB

We don't know yet. I've only tried the same model 80GB Maxtor HDD in my XS32s. nextoo was able to use a different model 250GB Western Digital in an XS54. Not enough Toshiba HDD swaps have been done to figure out what will or won't work.

Oops, I forgot that my factory XS54 had the HDD listed for the XS55, and I replaced it with a new HDD of that model.
post #80 of 461
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An XS32 80GB HDD works fine in the XS52 (normally 160GB) without reformatting. All content recorded on the XS32 remains intact, and can be edited on the XS52. The XS52 can record more, edit, delete, etc.

So, I think there's still hope for KX50 owners. Since the KX50/XS52 have so much in common, and the XS52 can use an 80GB XS32 HDD (same as the KX50 HDD), I think it's unlikely that the KX50 is the only Toshiba model (so far) that can't swap HDDs.

The XS52 won't recognize the 250GB Maxtor HDD that works in my XS54.

I updated the first post with this XS52 HDD swap info.
post #81 of 461
Has anyone the 160gb drive from the XS52 in the XS32?
post #82 of 461
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Originally Posted by xiaNaix View Post

Has anyone the 160gb drive from the XS52 in the XS32?

Not me. I thought of that after I had everything back together.
I'll try it in the next week or so. If it does work, I very highly doubt the XS32 will see more than 80GB.
post #83 of 461
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Originally Posted by rickc5 View Post

Toshiba XSxx HDD swaps that DON'T work (so far):

XS54 - HDDs smaller than 250GB (mostly likely can't put a smaller than orignal HDD in any XS model)

Picked up an open box (actually returned) XS35. It works flawlessly so far but I noticed the max free space after formatting was only about half what it is on my 1yr old XS35. I thought, oh sh*t... looked at the screws--the unit had obviously been opened. I took a peek and found the internal cabling was all over the place and the HDD was replaced with an 80GB by the b*stard that returned it.

To sum it up, the unit works fine with a smaller drive than the original.
post #84 of 461
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Originally Posted by shawbros View Post

Picked up an open box (actually returned) XS35. It works flawlessly so far but I noticed the max free space after formatting was only about half what it is on my 1yr old XS35. I thought, oh sh*t... looked at the screws--the unit had obviously been opened. I took a peek and found the internal cabling was all over the place and the HDD was replaced with an 80GB by the b*stard that returned it.

To sum it up, the unit works fine with a smaller drive than the original.

Man, that really sucks. Well, at least something good came out of it - we now know an 80GB will work in an XS35. Out of curiosity, do you have any idea what model HDD it is? Hope you get your money back okay, and they don't try to blame you.

Thanks, I forgot to update that comment. I've been able to get an 80GB to work in an XS52 with no problems, so it seems that some swaps to smaller HDDs are possible. Nextoo couldn't get a 120GB to work in an XS35, and I couldn't get an 80GB or 120GB to work in an XS54.
post #85 of 461
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Originally Posted by jmscott42 View Post

Figures. You can replace the HDD with no problems but not the burner. Other models you can replace the burner with no (or few) problems but not the HDD.

C'mon, Toshiba, make up your minds!!

SEEMS you can replace the drive unit if somecan tell me the xs54 drive has a model number on it on the inside let me know. post it please.
post #86 of 461
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SEEMS you can replace the drive unit if somecan tell me the xs54 drive has a model number on it on the inside let me know. post it please.

I believe jmscott42 is talking about the XS35 which has a proprietary data connection - not standard IDE. Even so, I believe the burner can be changed on the XS35 by using the Toshiba ATAPI converter which can be purchased from online parts suppliers. It will also require the addition of a Toshiba power cable because the power cable is not standard. Again this can be purchased online. My guess is that these two parts will add about $30 to the effort. So although it has not been reported as being done before it is more than likely doable.
post #87 of 461
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Originally Posted by rickc5 View Post

do you have any idea what model HDD it is? Hope you get your money back okay, and they don't try to blame you.

Sorry, didn't write it down. Only know it was a Seagate.
Got my money back no prob.
post #88 of 461
So the thread title is incorrect, right? Nobody has actually been able to swap in an XS32..?
post #89 of 461
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So the thread title is incorrect, right? Nobody has actually been able to swap in an XS32..?

Um, the title is correct. As I've posted, I've been able to repeatedly swap three original 80GB HDDs between three XS32s, record, delete, edit, and hi-speed dub titles on each, with all content intact regardless of which HDD was in which XS32.

Also, I've put two brand new 80GB Maxtor HDDs in these XS32s, formatted them after the initial authentication warning, and then did similar swaps as above. Every single time, each XS32 powered up and worked as if it had it's original drive.

As far as I know, no one has been able to successfully swap a bigger HDD into an XS32, and I haven't heard of anyone trying a different model 80GB HDD.

I'm trying to keep the first post in this thread updated with what XS HDD swaps have been tried. My intention is to compile all XS model HDD replacement info here, whether successful or not, so no one has to search umpteen threads to find out that a specific combo has already been tried and doesn't work. Hence the title - HDD Swap Info
post #90 of 461
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SEEMS you can replace the drive unit if somecan tell me the xs54 drive has a model number on it on the inside let me know. post it please.

The XS54 burner is an SW-9574-E. LG 4167B and LG H42 burners work great in the XS54 with a couple of minor quirks. I was thinking about starting an XS series burner swap thread like this HDD thread. Opinions?
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