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post #61 of 137
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

i'm still getting a bottoming out sound when pushing it. called hsu and talked to leo (great guy). without hessitating he said "maybe the driver got knocked out of alignment during shipment I'll send you another one tommorow. ok this is what i call customer service............

As much as people are saying it's not, it COULD be the sub needing to loosen up. My Dyns used to pop like crazy until they got nice and broken in and now they NEVER pop. I guess we'll find out for sure when the new sub shows up.
post #62 of 137
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

i'm still getting a bottoming out sound when pushing it. called hsu and talked to leo (great guy). without hessitating he said "maybe the driver got knocked out of alignment during shipment I'll send you another one tommorow. ok this is what i call customer service............

lv, congrats on the purchase. It is great that Hsu is responding to your dilemma so quickly. I just wanted to add that I also picked up the 3.3 w/turbo back on 4/13 and it has been performing beautifully. When properly calibrated, it shouldn't be close to bottoming out, even with the most extreme soundtracks, i.e. War of the Worlds, Pulse, Jurassic Park III, King Kong, LOTR trilogy, U-571 (Great bass frequencies from these). Keep us updated on your situation and continue giving it a workout to see if it does indeed work itself out. BTW, does yours still have that new subwoofer smell? Smells like vinyl and rubber. I've never owned such a distinctive smelling component.
post #63 of 137
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Originally Posted by nonametofame View Post

lv, congrats on the purchase. It is great that Hsu is responding to your dilemma so quickly. I just wanted to add that I also picked up the 3.3 w/turbo back on 4/13 and it has been performing beautifully. When properly calibrated, it shouldn't be close to bottoming out, even with the most extreme soundtracks, i.e. War of the Worlds, Pulse, Jurassic Park III, King Kong, LOTR trilogy, U-571 (Great bass frequencies from these). Keep us updated on your situation and continue giving it a workout to see if it does indeed work itself out. BTW, does yours still have that new subwoofer smell? Smells like vinyl and rubber. I've never owned such a distinctive smelling component.

i've calibrated all speakers to 70db and the sub to 74 and with any reference volume this baby is clacking, the last time was in the very beginning of smokin aces, theres some music w/ very low tones hitting, before any dialog begins. try it and see if it happens to you.
yes the smell is still there, I kinda like it.
post #64 of 137
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Originally Posted by lrstevens421 View Post

Wow, I just ordered one of these puppies today. My wife is going to kill me.

I was thinking of getting one after reading craigsub's rankings but after seeing this picture no way my wife would let it in the house. It makes my SVS 20-39 PCi look elegant! The next time my wife complains about the SVS, I'm going to show her this monster.
post #65 of 137
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Originally Posted by gvg45 View Post

For the best of both worlds, I think before trying dual 3.3/HO's, I would try either the 3.3/HO w/turbo farfield and an MBM-12 nearfield.


It's going to be one 3.3 w/turbo nearfield and one 3.3 w/turbo about midway along an adjacent wall.

Hatchback, I think it is mainly the turbo that really takes away from the sub's appearance. At least as far as incorporating it into a living room anyway. In a purely HT room, anything goes IMO.
post #66 of 137
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Originally Posted by gvg45 View Post

For the best of both worlds, I think before trying dual 3.3/HO's, I would try either the 3.3/HO w/turbo farfield and an MBM-12 nearfield.

Hi gvg45

I have been wanting the MBM-12 for a long time. Right now I have a pair of HSU VTF-3HOs plus Turbos. I would like the MBM-12 right next to me, pointing towards the couch. Right now I have a snack table there.

Please let me know how you like the MBM-12 and whichever HSU sub you choose.

Kind Regards
post #67 of 137
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Originally Posted by Kingrsl View Post

It's going to be one 3.3 w/turbo nearfield and one 3.3 w/turbo about midway along an adjacent wall.

Hatchback, I think it is mainly the turbo that really takes away from the sub's appearance. At least as far as incorporating it into a living room anyway. In a purely HT room, anything goes IMO.

Hi Kingrsl

I understand how you feel about the look of the Turbo. I like "the equipment look", and I have removed the grill covers from all of my speakers. I am lucky that my fiance doesn't mind what my equipment looks like.

She likes to watch TV and DVDs on my 65 inch 1080i HD display. In a purely HT room, anything goes. She does not mind the look of my pair of HSU VTF-3HOs + Turbos either. I have not exactly figured out where I want my Denon 5803A.

Kind Regards
post #68 of 137
Spyboy,

I know you've said what gear you have somewhere, but I can't seem to find the thread. Could you find it for me? Also, do you have pics?
post #69 of 137
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I am lucky that my fiance doesn't mind what my equipment looks like.

That is a very good thing. Hopefully, you too are ok with her equipment. It makes for a solid marriage.

Dr. Phil
post #70 of 137
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Originally Posted by fretman4god View Post

Spyboy,

I know you've said what gear you have somewhere, but I can't seem to find the thread. Could you find it for me? Also, do you have pics?

Hi fretman4god

I like the name you use. I have a lot to do today. I can mention one thing. I have a 35 inch ProScan ID TV. I can explain more later.

Kind Regards
post #71 of 137
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Originally Posted by mojomike View Post

That is a very good thing. Hopefully, you too are ok with her equipment. It makes for a solid marriage.

Dr. Phil

Hi mojo

I like her equipment just fine

I like to watch Dr. Phil on MadTV, as well as Ms. Swan

All the Best
post #72 of 137
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

i'm still getting a bottoming out sound when pushing it. called hsu and talked to leo (great guy). without hessitating he said "maybe the driver got knocked out of alignment during shipment I'll send you another one tommorow. ok this is what i call customer service............

Any chance you could take some pics of the inside of the sub box when you switch the drivers out? Im curious what it looks like

Hopefully the new driver solves your issues.
post #73 of 137
lvisneau,

When you say you pushed it hard, can you list the +/-db on the receiver and the settings on the 3.3?

Thanks,
Tony
post #74 of 137
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

i've calibrated all speakers to 70db and the sub to 74 and with any reference volume this baby is clacking, the last time was in the very beginning of smokin aces, theres some music w/ very low tones hitting, before any dialog begins. try it and see if it happens to you.

A friend is going to let me borrow Smokin aces later today ,ill let you know how it goes.
post #75 of 137
Guys,

I am new to this audio thing. When you calibrate the audio, the goal is to tune to the best sound you can get with the gears.

Part of the result is to be able to turn the volume (on the receiver) up to the highest level without any distortion?

Tony
post #76 of 137
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

i've calibrated all speakers to 70db and the sub to 74 and with any reference volume this baby is clacking, the last time was in the very beginning of smokin aces, theres some music w/ very low tones hitting, before any dialog begins. try it and see if it happens to you.
yes the smell is still there, I kinda like it.


Somethings definately wrong with your driver , if you're talking about the semi-hard hitting bass in the very begining (it starts about 35 seconds into the movie, black screen with text) I can push my sub in this scene well beyond my calibration level without any bottoming out or distortion. Movies like WOTW and The Haunting (DTS) have much harder hitting / deeper bass than this and even then im able to push it to insane levels.
post #77 of 137
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

i've calibrated all speakers to 70db and the sub to 74 and with any reference volume this baby is clacking, the last time was in the very beginning of smokin aces, theres some music w/ very low tones hitting, before any dialog begins. try it and see if it happens to you.
yes the smell is still there, I kinda like it.

I'm not surprised, that's 7 db too hot compared to the rest of the system. Most subs would "protest" at that over calibration if the master volume anywhere near "reference" level, with large bass peaks. However it could be defective as it was mentioned earlier, but running a sub that hot could have consequences in the future with any sub.
post #78 of 137
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Originally Posted by spyboy View Post

Hi gvg45


Please let me know how you like the MBM-12 and whichever HSU sub you choose.

Kind Regards

I have the 3.3. I have it set up farfield now but I am throwing around the idea of placing it nearfield. I think I will try this before pursuing more thoughts of the MBM-12
post #79 of 137
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Originally Posted by nonametofame View Post

BTW, does yours still have that new subwoofer smell? Smells like vinyl and rubber. I've never owned such a distinctive smelling component.

FWIW, I still have that smell. I like it but my wife doesnt care for it too much.
post #80 of 137
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Originally Posted by tractng View Post

lvisneau,

When you say you pushed it hard, can you list the +/-db on the receiver and the settings on the 3.3?

Thanks,
Tony

68 on the onkyo 604 and about 1/3 on the hsu.
post #81 of 137
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

I'm not surprised, that's 7 db too hot compared to the rest of the system. Most subs would "protest" at that over calibration if the master volume anywhere near "reference" level, with large bass peaks. However it could be defective as it was mentioned earlier, but running a sub that hot could have consequences in the future with any sub.

how'd you get "7" too hot? i was told that 2-5 db hotter than the others was acceptable.
post #82 of 137
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Originally Posted by Mathesar View Post

Any chance you could take some pics of the inside of the sub box when you switch the drivers out? Im curious what it looks like

Hopefully the new driver solves your issues.

will do.
post #83 of 137
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Originally Posted by lvisneau View Post

how'd you get "7" too hot? i was told that 2-5 db hotter than the others was acceptable.

Well if you use the RS meter[have you?], which is off by an average 3db on typical pink noise test signal for SW[usually a combined continius signal from 20hz-80hz or higher], and then add you additional 4db bump, you actually over about 7db. If you need additional headroom get a second sub, rasing volume like that, is never a good long term solution.
post #84 of 137
lvisneau, did you calibrate your sub using corrected values of your meter? I think that is what he was getting at.
post #85 of 137
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

Well if you use the RS meter[have you?], which is off by an average 3db on typical pink noise test signal for SW[usually a combined continius signal from 20hz-80hz or higher], and then add you additional 4db bump, you actually over about 7db. If you need additional headroom get a second sub, rasing volume like that, is never a good long term solution.

so th rs meter is off by 3db. sh-t i did not know this. thanks hun, i'll turn that baby back down to 71 and that should be good.
post #86 of 137
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Originally Posted by Kingrsl View Post

lvisneau, did you calibrate your sub using corrected values of your meter? I think that is what he was getting at.

yeah i used the rs digital meter and set everything to 70 and the sub to 74 but i didn't know it was off by 3db. all the reading i've done here and that slipped right by me........................??
post #87 of 137
well i guess what is wrong w/ 74db? this sub should be able to handle much more than that
post #88 of 137
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Originally Posted by CupCak3 View Post

well i guess what is wrong w/ 74db? this sub should be able to handle much more than that

That's not peak output but calibration level using test tones that lowered 20-30db from reference.
post #89 of 137
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Originally Posted by gvg45 View Post

FWIW, I still have that smell. I like it but my wife doesnt care for it too much.

I had a smell problem when I got my MBM-12. Turned out to be the 4 rubber isolators for the spikes. Glad it wasn't the plasma burning up. (might have to regas it. )

Took the rubber isolators off and put them in the garage. Still took the better part of a day for the odor to dissipate.
post #90 of 137
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Originally Posted by spyboy View Post

Hi fretman4god

I like the name you use. I have a lot to do today. I can mention one thing. I have a 35 inch ProScan ID TV. I can explain more later.

Kind Regards

I have a pair of Mission M73 speakers, as well as a pair of KEF Q70 speakers.

I also have center channel speakers from Boston, Klipsch, and an M&K S150AC. I am a little to busy right now to complete the set-up of my Denon 5803A. My primary display is a Toshiba 65H84.

Kind Regards

PS I have a Kenwood VR-6070, and a Denon AVR-2500, and I am waiting for an Onix X-Sub in Rosa Diamond Palisander.
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