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post #61 of 744
I think I know what it is. I think some backups I have are full screen instead of widescreen format. I think that's where the issue is.
post #62 of 744
...yeah, that's what I was referencing.
post #63 of 744
I keep getting the "cannot find out server" prompt", probably due to server overload. I might try it tomorrow.
post #64 of 744
Can somebody please remind me what 2.2 (and for that matter 2.1) was supposed to fix?
post #65 of 744
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Originally Posted by erick granato View Post

Can somebody please remind me what 2.2 (and for that matter 2.1) was supposed to fix?

Read the details:

http://www.tacp.com/tacpassets-image...vdfirmware.asp

In my case, 2.2 corrected the HDMI/DVI problem associated with 2.1.
post #66 of 744
I still lock up on MI3 at exactly the same place although Relentless Enemies plays without problems. Guess I must have a bad disk.
post #67 of 744
The creak/clunk/reread noise from the drive every 10-15 seconds that was introduced in 2.1 has not been fixed in 2.2. :-(
post #68 of 744
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Originally Posted by sharkshark View Post

...not that I'm sure many of you expected differently, but the symptom of HDMI lock is still in place, that, after syncing, if you switch to another HDMI input on the switcher the player shuts down (G2 doesn't do this, FWIW).

First test of HD-DVD was Happy Feet. First attempt did give an HDMI error, but I switched back and forth from input one to input two on the Monoprice and it then worked (the same fix did not occur when testing SD).

I just watched all of chapter 8 and THERE WAS NO BARF! Then I realized, whoops, fogot to reset to TrueHD (late at night here, so it's not exactly cranked enough to hear the difference immediately).

Skipped to the beginning of ch 8 after engaging TrueHD, played through to 28:48 and NO BARF!!!

This I don't trust...

Hard powered off machine, let it sit for a second. Hit play, and for some reason I no longer consistently get the HD-DVD startup logo (TV sits in 4:3 mode).

Scene-selected ch 8 (getting a bit sick of this part of the movie, frankly), they dance, the fish come ("You're so FISH!"), and HARD FREEZE at 28:55. The disc continue to count down without the picture or sound continuing (my screen has the frame just before Mumble breaks the surface frozen on it, timer's continuing to count down)

Oh, man.... 1 step forward, six back...

How is a bad disc six steps back?

shark, you have a bad Happy Feet disc. I don't think any firmware on the planet is going to fix that. I had the exact symptom on my first copy of Happy Feet, and it looks like quite a few others did, too. Amazon gave me a new copy, and it's played through a few times with no issues. (FWIW, I have a A1 at FW 2.0)

If 2.2 fixed the DVI issue that 2.1 introduced, then it's more like "1 step back, and 1 step forward."

If a disc has random stutters and/or skips or dropouts, that can't be reproduced, then that might be the kind of thing I'd expect a firmware to fix, because that doesn't sound like a bad disc. "Readability." If people are flooding AVS saying a title locks up at the exact same time-stamp every time, that's clearly a bad batch of discs.

My set-up is HDMI from start to finish, but if I had DVI in my chain and installed 2.1 and killed my setup, I'd be furious, don't get me wrong. And while 2.2 shouldn't have been necessary to fix what 2.1 broke, expecting 2.2 (or any firmware, for that matter) to magically play all defective software and solve every connectivity issue possible (with all ridiculously heterogenous types of non-conforming hardware, especially with things like DVI and HDMI) is pretty unreasonable.

These glitches are frustrating, yes. "Six steps back?" No.
post #69 of 744
Has anyone determined if 2.2 corrected the black crush / colorspace issues introduced by 2.0 to us HDMI->DVI users. I have to adjust my contrast & brightness everytime I watch a DVD or HD-DVD (my 56" JVC RPTV only has 1 setting), then re-adjust when back to viewing HDTV, cable, etc.
The previous (DVI) thread on 2.1 fw was so dominated by messed up HDMI-DVI connections (not to mention HDCP issues), that it was inconclusive if the colorspace issue was corrected.
I have an RCA, so I can't do the 2,2 update by internet, but plan to burn a disc once it is avail. for download (assuming it's not another 2.1 fiasco). Thanks in advance.
post #70 of 744
I tried to update my player and got the VUP error. When I looked at the menu screen for the update it said 2.1. How do I get 2.2?
post #71 of 744
I couldn't make my A1 update to FW 2.1, but I tried for half an hour, and then it magically connected so about fifty minutes later, I updated to FW 2.2. I used to have lock up issues with NIN on the TrueHD track, but so far, it hasn't skipped or have audio drop out yet. Crossing my fingers, but I think I'm good because it would have by now. Colour me impressed. Now I'm anxious to get my copie of CoM on Monday.
post #72 of 744
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Originally Posted by ILJG View Post

How is a bad disc six steps back?

shark, you have a bad Happy Feet disc. I don't think any firmware on the planet is going to fix that. I had the exact symptom on my first copy of Happy Feet, and it looks like quite a few others did, too. Amazon gave me a new copy, and it's played through a few times with no issues. (FWIW, I have a A1 at FW 2.0)

...and, honestly, I'd be right with you making the same conclusion. There's a Happy Feet thread where there's more background on this issue that I haven't articulated here, so I fully understand your sentiment. I'm not, however, idly complaining, if being slightly hyperbolic.

First of all, this is my -third- Happy Feet disc, from two different retailers (Futureshop and HMV). Now, it's entirely possible, of course, that Canada got discs from the same batch, but what's fascinating in this case is -how- the player deals with the issue. Plus, as stated above, it's the -only- title that I can, without fail, recreate my most frustrating experience with my A1, namely the stutter "barf" that I indicate above.

With 2.0/2.1, from a hard-powered-off state, I could insert the disc, hit play, switch to TrueHD, watch Chapter Eight, and without fail have the title hang for a second at the timemark I provided.

What's new, and quite distressing, is the fact that with 2.2 I had a catastrophic playback failure, the first I ever had on my A1 (the first disc I ever played on a A2 caused the Hex error and total failure, scaring me from upgrading to G2 anytime soon as I took the disc out and finished the film, with a few stutters, on my A1).

I should emphasize - these are brand new discs, no scratches or marks, no obvious blemishes of any kind.

The following is of course relevant only to my system (A1 FW2.2>Monoprice Switcher>Sony 57WV700 DVI), but may be of use.b

So, to be explicit, here's what's fixed with 2.2:

- HDMI>DVI synch improved (it does occasionally take a couple times to synch, but it's greatly improved from 2.1 where it worked only after much fighting. It's about as good as it was with 2.0)
- Setup now works with HDMI connection
- Disc ejects sooner (it seems, alas, I haven't timed it, others have/will)

Here's what's not fixed:
- SD-DVD playback - I can get usually an FBI screen, then HDMI ERROR 1 regardless of title
- The Happy Feet disc barf has resulted in a catastrophic failure for the first time (as posted above, testing procedure is as follows: 1) Hard Power off A1 2) Press play 3) Select TrueHD audio 4) Scene Select Chapter Eight 5) Play through until the flying bird dives under to steal the fish, just before Mumble breaks to the surface. The player will either hang for a moment, or, in my case, occassionally hang entirely, as the counter continues but the screen is frozen with the paused image, and no sound is emitted. When the disc -does- have a brief barf as per 2.0/2.1, you can rewind to the start of the chapter and it'll play through fine, repeated. It is only on the first playing of this scene from a cold boot that the disc seems to exhibit this problem.

Unknown:
- Black level/colourspace - while I have no test disc to confirm (damn you Azn, I'm waiting for DVE since Oct), it certainly looks at first blush like "darker" with HDMI than component, however, I have yet to definitively be able to prove this.

Hope that helps and is more clear...
post #73 of 744
Has anybody compared how's the playback of homemade red laser HD DVD's with 2.2 vs 2.0?
post #74 of 744
FWIW, I watched Happy Feet on my A1 player with the 2.1 firmware the whole way through No problems, no freezes. I played the TrueHD soundtrack via HDMI.
post #75 of 744
Finally got it to update. WOW! The player is alot faster, and it fixed the HDMI to DVI issue. Toshiba may still have this customer.
post #76 of 744
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Originally Posted by IcemanDallas View Post

I still lock up on MI3 at exactly the same place although Relentless Enemies plays without problems. Guess I must have a bad disk.

Can i ask where you get this lockup on MI3? I have 2.0 and played the bridge scene (the first one, right?) and no apparent issues. I'm considering upgrading to 2.2 for what might be faster boot times as my load times seem to take forever.
post #77 of 744
got link to were you can dowload it ?? HD-A1

dont like doing it via internet
post #78 of 744
I have RCA HDV5000 (HD-A1 clone) and havent been able to update my player to firmware v2.1 or the newer v2.2 because of RCA's incompetance. Anyone willing to send me a disc copy of a tosh upgrade to change my call home site? I know that this will make my RCA think its a Tosh... ie splash menu, etc. Also does anyone advise me against this? I am this players 2nd owner so I don't think I have to worry about voiding my warrenty b/c I don't think RCA/Toshiba would honor the warrenty since I bought it off ebay.
post #79 of 744
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Originally Posted by tomstpaul View Post

I have RCA HDV5000 (HD-A1 clone) and havent been able to update my player to firmware v2.1 or the newer v2.2 because of RCA's incompetance. Anyone willing to send me a disc copy of a tosh upgrade to change my call home site? I know that this will make my RCA think its a Tosh... ie splash menu, etc. Also does anyone advise me against this? I am this players 2nd owner so I don't think I have to worry about voiding my warrenty b/c I don't think RCA/Toshiba would honor the warrenty since I bought it off ebay.

Have the RCA model also. I did the 2.0 update from Toshiba when the ISO download was available. No problems. Since I have done that, my RCA goes to Toshiba's server for FW downloads. I just did the download this afternoon, so far no problems. I didnt really watch anything though, as I was in the middle of waxing my car. Load time seemed faster when I pooped a disc in. I have the Toshiba splash screen now.
post #80 of 744
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Jerry Curl View Post

Load time seemed faster when I pooped a disc in.

post #81 of 744
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Originally Posted by Jon Spackman View Post

can someone try discrete off

Yes, please!
post #82 of 744
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Have the RCA model also. I did the 2.0 update from Toshiba when the ISO download was available. No problems. Since I have done that, my RCA goes to Toshiba's server for FW downloads. I just did the download this afternoon, so far no problems. I didnt really watch anything though, as I was in the middle of waxing my car. Load time seemed faster when I pooped a disc in. I have the Toshiba splash screen now.


Sorry I'm kind of an amateur at this, by ISO you mean???? It alright you can laugh at me.
post #83 of 744
The M:I 3 bridge scene lock-up seems to be a disc issue. I had two bad discs (both from the box set) until I finally got a good disc (packaged by itself). That was all with 2.0. 2.1 worked flawlessly for me as well.
Children of Men and Smokin' Aces worked without a single glitch. I updated to 2.2 today, and so far no problems with The Good Shepard (rented it yesterday, didn't try it with 2.1). For once, I'm one of the lucky ones.
post #84 of 744
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Originally Posted by tomstpaul View Post

Sorry I'm kind of an amateur at this, by ISO you mean???? It alright you can laugh at me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_image

Someone took the disc Toshiba sent out, made a disc image of it and posted it. I downloaded it and burned myself a copy. From there, I updated my RCA player. One of the changes it does is points your player to look at Toshiba's site instead of RCA's. Since it now does that, I can do the upgrades online straight from Toshiba and not have to wait for RCA to get on the ball.

I havent had any problems doing it this way (so far) and since it is really a rebadged A1, I dont expect to.
post #85 of 744
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Originally Posted by Jerry Curl
Someone took the disc Toshiba sent out, made a disc image of it and posted it. I downloaded it and burned myself a copy. From there, I updated my RCA player. One of the changes it does is points your player to look at Toshiba's site instead of RCA's. Since it now does that, I can do the upgrades online straight from Toshiba and not have to wait for RCA to get on the ball.

I havent had any problems doing it this way (so far) and since it is really a rebadged A1, I dont expect to.

Do you know where I can go on the web to find this and make myself a disc? Thanks for you help and for your patience.
post #86 of 744
The 2.2 disc isn't out yet. You'll have to wait until Toshiba sends them out and someone makes an image file for it.

If you want the 2.0 file, read this thread. If you already have 2.0 on your player, I dont know if you can redo it or not.
post #87 of 744
Downloading now, interested in checking out the bootup time and disc loading tray open/close response.
post #88 of 744
Quote:


Originally Posted by Jerry Curl
The 2.2 disc isn't out yet. You'll have to wait until Toshiba sends them out and someone makes an image file for it.

If you want the 2.0 file, read this thread. If you already have 2.0 on your player, I dont know if you can redo it or not.

OK so i got a membership to 1080x1920 and am downloading v2.0 to computer. do i need to put it on a disc to download into the player? and if so a burnable CD or DVD?
post #89 of 744
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Originally Posted by Jon Spackman View Post

can someone try discrete off

Sorry, but discrete off still doesn't work with firmware 2.2. Just checked.
post #90 of 744
I guess you'll need this 2.2 firmware (or later) to avail yourself of the new online features of BLOOD DIAMOND, due in early July from WHV.
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