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post #151 of 1278
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

I dont suppose any one has a pic of moire?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moire
post #152 of 1278
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

Ok, Great. Looking at those directions, you would think you should get paid for building the screen yourself!

I'm not trying to speak for SMX, but my view of what you are paying for is a screen that matches the Stewart Screen performance for a much cheaper price point. IMHO, that may mean I have to spend some extra time (like attaching the material to the screen etc), but the dollar saving outweight the time spent. If I took the other route I would just hire an HT installer to do it all for me and pay for the service.

Ron
post #153 of 1278
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Originally Posted by Dave G View Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moire

Thanks Dave... that looks like it would be pretty obvious.
post #154 of 1278
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Originally Posted by rboster View Post

I'm not trying to speak for SMX, but my view of what you are paying for is a screen that matches the Stewart Screen performance for a much cheaper price point. IMHO, that may mean I have to spend some extra time (like attaching the material to the screen etc), but the dollar saving outweight the time spent. If I took the other route I would just hire an HT installer to do it all for me and pay for the service.

Ron

I know I know! It was meant to be a joke.... I cant wait for this to arrive!
post #155 of 1278
To check for moire' find a scene with a large area of solid light color (fog, smoke or blue sky works well). And look for that pattern of lines. If it is objectionable, you will see it immediately. Here is an extreme close up of moire' on an actual SMX surface:

post #156 of 1278
That should be easy to spot.... thanks.
post #157 of 1278
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Originally Posted by Shake1 View Post

Ruben,

Will the mounting bracket sustain the additional weight of the masking system or will it need to be modified?

Thanks,
Scott

Hi Scott,

The ProMask masking system has it's own mounting brackets.

Ruben
post #158 of 1278
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

Ok, Great. Looking at those directions, you would think you should get paid for building the screen yourself! But I do understand its to get rid of moire.
Thanks.

I dont suppose any one has a pic of moire?

Hi Shamus,

The SmX Pro-Line kit comes with a 2' x 2' piece of CineWeave and it is very simple to figure out if you have moire or not and adjust to get rid of it.

Once your PJ is mounted in it's final resting place, take the supplied 2' x 2' CineWeave sample and hang it flat on the wall where your screen will be mounted. If you see moiré, rotate the sample on axis until it dissapears. Make note of the amount of tilt and use that tilt when installing the screen material on the frame.

Whenever you have a digital projector projecting on a manufactured fixed audio transparent screen it is very possible you will have moiré. The only way to truly be safe of moiré is to be able to adjust the AT screen material on site. This is why we use the material mounting method we use, we kept the end user and installer in mind.

A screen with snaps on it is a little bit easier to assemble but is very hard on the thumbs and stretching the material and snapping can be challenging (even for a big guy like me). I don't think anyone would be too happy finding outthey have moiré after assembling and installing a snap together frame.

A factory can't manufacture a fixed AT screen for a digital projector without a possibility of moiré. There are just too many things to factor in such as, screen size, throw distance, PJ offset, different PJs, anamorphic lenses, scalers, pixel size, optics, etc. If a screen company can buy every digital projector and test with everything I mentioned above, then yes maybe.

There is a picture of moiré on the bottom left side of http://www.smxscreen.com/

Thanks
Ruben
post #159 of 1278
Thanks Ruben. I am doing some specific tweaks to where I hang my Pro-Line screen on my wall, as to hide the bases of my electric curtain rod's L-brackets on the screen wall (i.e. I am trying to cover the bottom portion of the L-brackets with the 3" border of the screen along the top edge).

Can you PM me on what the measking system mounting system may look like? I would hate to have to redo it. I really need to know if I need to make any space allowances above the screen mount, to affix the masking system mounts, etc.

Thanks,
Scott


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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

Hi Scott,

The ProMask masking system has it's own mounting brackets.

Ruben

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Originally Posted by Shake1 View Post

Ruben,

Will the mounting bracket sustain the additional weight of the masking system or will it need to be modified?

Thanks,
Scott
post #160 of 1278
Please post here, no PM's... Im very curious also!
post #161 of 1278
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Originally Posted by Shake1 View Post

Thanks Ruben. I am doing some specific tweaks to where I hang my Pro-Line screen on my wall, as to hide the bases of my electric curtain rod's L-brackets on the screen wall (i.e. I am trying to cover the bottom portion of the L-brackets with the 3" border of the screen along the top edge).

Can you PM me on what the measking system mounting system may look like? I would hate to have to redo it. I really need to know if I need to make any space allowances above the screen mount, to affix the masking system mounts, etc.

Thanks,
Scott

Sure thing, as soon as I get the pictures and drawings together I will post them in here.


Thank You
Ruben
post #162 of 1278
Does the SMX material have a front and back side? Thanks,
post #163 of 1278
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Originally Posted by JeffinChelsea View Post

Does the SMX material have a front and back side? Thanks,

Hi Jeff,

We recommend using the side that is facing out on the core. Both sides perform the same but we thoroughly inspect the side that is facing out for flaws.

Thank you
Ruben
post #164 of 1278
Ruben do you have a date for the masking system yet?
post #165 of 1278
What is the minimum recommended viewing distance for a 120" wide SmX screen?
post #166 of 1278
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Originally Posted by jtwfan View Post

What is the minimum recommended viewing distance for a 120" wide SmX screen?

It depends on your projector. I'm going with 1.1x or 132". But that won't work unless you have a 1080p projector. I wouldn't go any closer, just for the viewing experience.
post #167 of 1278
It is a totally personal thing and the recommendations are way off from what some of us have experienced.
My rows are 9.5' and 12.5' from the 120" Smx screen with a 720p projector and it is FINE. everyone that has watched it thinks it's great no complaints of being too close or anything else.
post #168 of 1278
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Originally Posted by Don_Kellogg View Post

Ruben do you have a date for the masking system yet?

Hi Don,

We are now shipping:

Four way native 1.78 flat masking systems. This system allows you to do unlimited aspect ratios without being constrained to constant image height or width.



Two way native 2.40:1 curved and flat constant image height masking systems. These systems mask down from 2.40 to 2.37, 2.35, 1.85, 1.78 (16:9) and 1.33 (4:3) and anything in between.





Two way native 1.78 flat constant image width masking systems which can accommodate all your constant width aspect ratios.



Two way native 4:3 flat constant image width masking systems which can accommodate all your constant width aspect ratios.

Each ProMask masking panel is independently controlled so you can adjust for off centered projected images or independently drop down the bottom mask for subtitles.

The ProMask masking systems are hand built to the highest quality. We hand pick the quietest motors and bench test all the parts before assembly. Our motors are about 20% - 30% faster than the motors in most of the masking systems currently on the market. We use structurally engineered extruded rollers to assure no waves for life in the masking panels.

We acoustically insulate the frame and rollers and use other acoustical methods which makes the ProMask the quietest masking system on the market. If you ever had a chance to hear how loud and bulky some of the other masking systems are on the market, you'll appreciate the methods we use.

The diameter of the ProMask frame measures 4" wide x 4" deep and comes hand upholstered with our true black hole velvet. The ProMask can be aperture mounted into a regular studded wall or hung on the face of a wall. There are 3 frame face profiles to choose from to meet everyones style. We can also do exotic wood veneer frames and various velvet colors if requested.

The ProMask accepts a lace and grommet screen, so any screen material can be used with them. The ProMask seamlessly integrates into any automation system such as Crestron, Amx, etc. and is controllable by IR, RF, IP & Dry Contact.

For audio transparent screens such as the CineWeave, we also have audio transparent masks.

The ProMask can ship fully assembled or partially assembled.
Standard sizes up to 24' wide, larger sizes can be accommodated.

Ruben
post #169 of 1278
Ruben,

Your "smxscreen.com" tagline is not a hot link.

Joe
post #170 of 1278
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Originally Posted by jmorris644 View Post

Ruben,

Your "smxscreen.com" tagline is not a hot link.

Joe

Joe: I think having a hot link maybe against forum rules...though that is a guess on my part....but either way I'm sure it's an example of Ruben not wanting to push his company. ....he has shown time and again he's a terrific contributing member to this forum. I think his level of commitment also is reflected in his business too after reading the comments from many satisfied customers
post #171 of 1278
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Originally Posted by rboster View Post

Joe: I think having a hot link maybe against forum rules...though that is a guess on my part....but either way I'm sure it's an example of Ruben not wanting to push his company. ....he has shown time and again he's a terrific contributing member to this forum. I think his level of commitment also is reflected in his business too after reading the comments from many satisfied customers

You got that right. Ive never dealt with a company that goes so far out of its way to help a customer with an issue. When talking to Ruben, you'd think you were talking to a close friend.

Do we have any pics, manuals, pricing etc on this new masking system?
post #172 of 1278
Ruben is one hell of a guy that is indeed true. It's very refreshing seeing someone of his caliber suceed. Ruben sent you an email on the masking and screen, might be easier to talk about it I'll give you a call monday if you'll be around.
post #173 of 1278
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

When talking to Ruben, you'd think you were talking to a close friend.

Or that crazy Uncle everyone hid from @ Thanksgiving

The noticible difference is that you can expect a product he would use for himself.
post #174 of 1278
Just hopping on here to share my feedback of the SMX screen with the Pro-Line frame.

All I can say is that the whole setup looks incredible! The SMX screen looks great, the pro-line frame is great and adding in an RS1 wasn't too shabby either. I'm now enjoying movies the way they were meant to be seen and heard, and the Xbox gaming is sweet too. Ruben was great to work with and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Ruben and SMX to anyone out there.

Thanks Ruben again,

Bimmeup
Matt

The Raptor Room Theatre
post #175 of 1278
I'm happy to hear everyone is enjoying their set ups, it's a beautiful thing

Ruben
post #176 of 1278
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Originally Posted by shamus1099 View Post

You got that right. Ive never dealt with a company that goes so far out of its way to help a customer with an issue. When talking to Ruben, you'd think you were talking to a close friend.

Do we have any pics, manuals, pricing etc on this new masking system?

Hi Shamus,

I updated the post above with some PROMASK pictures. You can contact AVS for pricing, manuals are coming soon (so much work to do)

Thanks
Ruben
post #177 of 1278
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Originally Posted by Mark P View Post

Or that crazy Uncle everyone hid from @ Thanksgiving

The noticible difference is that you can expect a product he would use for himself.

Hey Mark, Big Foot is looking for you

Ruben
post #178 of 1278
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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

Hey Mark, Big Foot is looking for you

Ruben

Hes a little south right now, but Ill take Big Foot looking for me other than the alternative .......Big (fill in the Blank)
post #179 of 1278
I recently just got my SMX material mounted up and have a JVC RS1 and notice that when there is a bright scene that the darks seem to wash out but when the scene is dark the black level is great. I mounted a black velvet behind the screen in case light was reflecting back but the washed out look is still noticeable. Any ideas on how to eliminate this?
post #180 of 1278
Hey guys. Anyone can PM me a good deal on the PROCURV 10.5 feet wide CIH with AT?

Thanks, I've messaged Json and Richard Yesterday but, havent got an answer.


Farhan.
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