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post #301 of 1209
12/27/07 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

Email is a big problem for us as well, we get emails every now and then from customers that inform us that they have not received a reply from us. Usually after a few attempts they get the mail but it can be quite frustrating. We may end up having to go the gmail way as well.

Ruben

I reccommend gmail whole-heartedly! You can keep your domain name, it's free, you can still use POP3 clients AND it comes with a pretty nice Web based interface. Just set up an MX record with your DNS admin.

Our company spam filters were pretty effective. The problem was the incoming pipe got so clogged because it had to come into the server before it could be filtered. 80% of our bandwidth was used by these guys!

Sorry to be OT, but I feel for you and I really appreciate the SMX material you sold me a while back. The HT turned out great!
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post #302 of 1209
12/27/07 at 11:53am
Ruben,

I know this question comes up every once in a while, but any news on a motorized version? I need a 11' wide motorized scope screen with side masking soon, that will survive the transition into my second living room system to occasionally watch a movie in the living room without having to go to the HT. I understand if there's not enough demand for these type of screens, but just thought I'd ask before I pull the trigger on a Screen Research.
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post #303 of 1209
12/27/07 at 12:04pm
And I'm still interested in the "entry level" version . . .

What will the difference be? I'm purchasing something in late Jan.
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post #304 of 1209
12/27/07 at 12:45pm
Thanks for the quick response Ruben.

It looks like I'll have to think of something then; I'm sure I can come up with a fix that doesn't need a full blown support frame and it won't have to be too elegant either as long as it's hidden.

Cheers.

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Hi Adrian,

It looks like you are going to have to build a false wall or use some type of support system that supports the bottom of the screen. If you just mount the top with our bracket and no support on the bottom, by nature, the screen will pull in on the bottom. So the screen would hang almost like the slope you are hanging the screen in front of without having a surface below to rest against.

Building a false wall can be simple if you have some DIY skills. Its just a matter of using some 2" x 4"s or 2" x 2"s, black paint and some fabric. Most people do not drywall the false wall. There are allot of false wall ideas here on AVS as well as on SmX.

If a false wall is absolutely out of the question, we can most likely build you some supports for the bottom of the screen or show you how.

The insulated ProLine frame weighs 1.375 lbs. per linear frame foot. So a 114" diagonal 16:9 ProLine frame will weigh 39 lbs.

We temporarily disabled the new user registration on the SMX forums due to all the spam bots that keep posting spam messages in the forums. We are working on an update to fix this.

Ruben
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post #305 of 1209
12/27/07 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by AdrianMills View Post

It looks like I'll have to think of something then; I'm sure I can come up with a fix that doesn't need a full blown support frame and it won't have to be too elegant either as long as it's hidden.

Start on this page of my home theater website and you might get some ideas . . .
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post #306 of 1209
12/27/07 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

And I'm still interested in the "entry level" version . . .

What will the difference be? I'm purchasing something in late Jan.

Check your PM's.

Ruben
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post #307 of 1209
12/28/07 at 1:07am
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Start on this page of my home theater website and you might get some ideas . . .

Thanks.
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post #308 of 1209
1/17/08 at 9:53am
Wooo-hoooo! In this box is my new ENTRY LEVEL SmX screen:



Getting it home will not be easy. I should have coughed up the $50 residential delivery fee.

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post #309 of 1209
1/17/08 at 12:28pm
Can you or Ruben tell us more about the entry level version of the SMX screen? Differences, curved, AT material? What options are there? I was on the SMX website last week and didn't see anything about it...guess I need to revisit.
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post #310 of 1209
1/17/08 at 12:46pm
+1, nothing about it on the website yet either.
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post #311 of 1209
1/18/08 at 1:44pm
I spoke to Ruben and he's just getting back in from being on the road. He plans on dropping in here and answering all of your questions.

More pics of my new, first-on-my-block, entry level SmX screen. Apologies for the crappy megapixel camera work. Opening the box I found that all frame members were bolted to brackets which were in turn screwed to a base plate x four. The screen material is in the small square box and the brackets and hardware are in the white wrapped bag (far end). This beats, hands down, the packaging of my Stewart Firehawk. When I get some time later this evening, I'll post some good pics of the frame.

Note: A 110" SmX screen, when removed from the box, just barely fit into a Nissan Murano. If you have a smaller car - or buy a wider screen - spring for the home delivery charge.



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post #312 of 1209
1/18/08 at 5:08pm
The SmX "entry level" screen, as Ruben has posted, has an un-insulated frame, screen material with .95 gain ( a la Screen Research ClearPix2) and a frame covered with black felt instead of black flocking. (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot *is* flocking? )
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post #313 of 1209
1/18/08 at 5:52pm
Pepar
how wide is the frame. It looks a little thin.
Also are the perforations much different than the regular smx screen material?
Curiously waiting for Rubens info!
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post #314 of 1209
1/18/08 at 8:21pm
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Originally Posted by goondog View Post

Pepar
how wide is the frame. It looks a little thin.
Also are the perforations much different than the regular smx screen material?
Curiously waiting for Rubens info!
thanks

So far, I've only un-boxed it and transported it home, but I'd guesstimate the frame to be about 4"-5" wide. To the best of my knowledge, it is the same width as the Pro-Line frame. I haven't opened the screen material box yet, but the sample SmX included loose in the main box (to test for moire?) looks like their "regular" material.

edit: The frame members are standing on edge . . .
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post #315 of 1209
1/20/08 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by goondog View Post

Pepar
how wide is the frame. It looks a little thin.
Also are the perforations much different than the regular smx screen material?
Curiously waiting for Rubens info!
thanks

The frame members have a real heft to them with the cross-sectional dimensions being 3-11/16" x 1-3/4". The felt looks to be applied very evenly over the entire area that can be seen after installation. One of the differences between the entry level screen and the standard Pro-Line is that the entry level frame is NOT insulated. Ruben spent considerable time explaining the (expensive) process of filling the frame and the benefits of doing so. In the end, I judged that having the unfilled entry level (Ruben: Got a name for this yet? ) frame would not compromise my installation.


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post #316 of 1209
1/22/08 at 5:12am
I am installing the three 650's behind a SMX AT screen and am getting different responses on recommended distance between screen and speakers. Klipsch says "as close as possible" and other posts here say "at least 6". I also need to purchase either a reciever or pre-amp and 7 channel amp ASAP for this Ultra 2 system. So many choices I am hoping someone has this system and can recommend a power set up they are happy with. Need help on both if possible. Thanks in advance...
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post #317 of 1209
1/23/08 at 6:05am
I use a Sunfire Ultimate Receiver with my Klipsch setup. (The receiver was previously used to power a Martin Logan setup). The receiver is rated for 200W into 8 ohms and has plenty of headroom for what we watch. Very pleased with the setup. I use a VP50 scaler for switching and AR control (the receiver cannot switch HDMI signals).
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post #318 of 1209
1/23/08 at 4:23pm
Greets everyone,

I'm interested in a SmX screen for my small viewing room.
My viewing distance from eyes to screen is 8 feet. Will I see the weave from this distance?

Thanks,

David
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post #319 of 1209
1/24/08 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by David Cox View Post

Greets everyone,

I'm interested in a SmX screen for my small viewing room.
My viewing distance from eyes to screen is 8 feet. Will I see the weave from this distance?

Thanks,

David

If you try to, yes. So, don't try .

Seriously, it won't be any more noticeable than say the texture coating on some higher gain screens. My seating is at 8.5 and 12 feet (I sit at 12) and when I first tried the SMX the weave bothered me. But, I was coming from a completely smooth screen and CRT projector so I was not used to seeing any screen door or other geometric artifacts on the screen. Once I stopped looking at the screen and started looking at the image the weave went away.

So, the short answer is you may, but it shouldn't be a huge problem if you allow yourself to get used to it.
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post #320 of 1209
1/29/08 at 4:38am
I like the look of the SMX screen with the masking in the other $20000 thread.
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post #321 of 1209
1/29/08 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by David Cox View Post

Greets everyone,

I'm interested in a SmX screen for my small viewing room.
My viewing distance from eyes to screen is 8 feet. Will I see the weave from this distance?

Thanks,

David

Ruben will happily send you a sample for you to play with.
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post #322 of 1209
1/29/08 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by Spizz View Post

I like the look of the SMX screen with the masking in the other $20000 thread.

Hi Spizz are you talking about this system in THIS THREAD?







Ruben
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post #323 of 1209
1/29/08 at 10:13am
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Originally Posted by rboster View Post

Can you or Ruben tell us more about the entry level version of the SMX screen? Differences, curved, AT material? What options are there? I was on the SMX website last week and didn't see anything about it...guess I need to revisit.

Right now we are working on packing methods to minimize cost and fine tuning some other details on the SmX Studio Line before we make any official announcements. We will not be offering curved screens with the Studio Line, they will be flat fixed screens only. We will also offer the Studio Line with one of our new AT screen materials that has a finer weave and a unity gain.

More details coming soon.

Ruben
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post #324 of 1209
1/30/08 at 11:59pm
That is the one Ruben. Looks very nice until I saw the cost Will you make a non curved masked system? I never saw the benefit for curved screens but each to their own. Keep up the good work.
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post #325 of 1209
2/3/08 at 1:08pm
I'm considering upgrading to a 1080p projector, from my current Panasonic AE-900, 720p. It looks pretty good, but I'm lusting for better black levels and more detail.

So....those of you have viewed several types of 1080p projectors on this type of AT screen, what looks best? A Panasonic 2000 "smoothscreen" or Sony Pearl "film like" projector, or a razor sharp Mitsubishi 5000, JVC RS1 type of picture? I'm especially concerned with moire' being an issue. Do the sharper image projectors have a bigger problem with this?

I view a 10' wide screen from about 11 feet. My current screen is not angle cut, but I will be changing to a 15 degree angled screen soon.
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post #326 of 1209
2/3/08 at 3:15pm
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Originally Posted by mlbrand View Post

I'm considering upgrading to a 1080p projector, from my current Panasonic AE-900, 720p. It looks pretty good, but I'm lusting for better black levels and more detail.

So....those of you have viewed several types of 1080p projectors on this type of AT screen, what looks best? A Panasonic 2000 "smoothscreen" or Sony Pearl "film like" projector, or a razor sharp Mitsubishi 5000, JVC RS1 type of picture? I'm especially concerned with moire' being an issue. Do the sharper image projectors have a bigger problem with this?

I view a 10' wide screen from about 11 feet. My current screen is not angle cut, but I will be changing to a 15 degree angled screen soon.

The main reason, IMO, for going with a woven AT screen is so that there is no moire. The holes, i.e. the open areas between the threads, are considerably smaller and denser than a perfed vinyl solution like my THX-certified Stewart Firehawk. And SmX will include enough material for the installer to skew the material to really be sure that moire doesn't occur. (They include a 2'x2' piece with every screen for "testing.")

You still need to calc whether these kinds of screens will deliver a bright enough picture with your projector (and any you're likely to own?) as they do not reach the gain of perfed solid screens.

I am not able to address your question regarding wheter "razor sharp" or "film-like" projectors work best, but Ruben has always been more than happy to take time to answer any questions I've had. And I've had a LOT.
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post #327 of 1209
2/3/08 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by Spizz View Post

That is the one Ruben. Looks very nice until I saw the cost Will you make a non curved masked system? I never saw the benefit for curved screens but each to their own. Keep up the good work.

He already offers a non-curve masking solution. 3 of 'em. :-)

http://www.smxscreen.com/pro-mask-masking-products.html
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post #328 of 1209
2/3/08 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

The main reason, IMO, for going with a woven AT screen is so that there is no moire. The holes, i.e. the open areas between the threads, are considerably smaller and denser than a perfed vinyl solution like my THX-certified Stewart Firehawk. And SmX will include enough material for the installer to skew the material to really be sure that moire doesn't occur. (They include a 2'x2' piece with every screen for "testing.")

You still need to calc whether these kinds of screens will deliver a bright enough picture with your projector (and any you're likely to own?) as they do not reach the gain of perfed solid screens.

I am not able to address your question regarding wheter "razor sharp" or "film-like" projectors work best, but Ruben has always been more than happy to take time to answer any questions I've had. And I've had a LOT.

Pepar,

I'm already using a woven AT screen (Phifer 4500) and I really like it, I'm just wanting some input on what type of 1080p projector folks here think may best match up with these type of woven AT screens.
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post #329 of 1209
2/3/08 at 8:43pm
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Originally Posted by mlbrand View Post

Pepar,

I'm already using a woven AT screen (Phifer 4500) and I really like it, I'm just wanting some input on what type of 1080p projector folks here think may best match up with these type of woven AT screens.

10-4. You might get more action is a less specific thread.
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post #330 of 1209
2/3/08 at 9:22pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

10-4. You might get more action is a less specific thread.

Yeah, I might. But hey, who says I won't buy an SMX screen some day? I won't DIY forever. Once my kids are done with college I'm going to spurge! I was also hoping that screen brand preference wouldn't be an issue for projector advice.
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