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post #781 of 1210
3/30/09 at 10:50am
I will not be using any attachments or scalers.
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post #782 of 1210
3/30/09 at 11:03am
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I will not be using any attachments or scalers.

So you plan on zooming the projector in and out for 2.35 and 1.78 content, correct?

Do you plan on getting an anamorphic lens in the future? If not, why are you considering a curved screen? Curved screens are mostly used to correct anamorphic lens distortion. If you use a curved screen without an anamorphic lens you will get a little barrel distortion which is the opposite of the bow tie distortion anamorphic lenses create.

Ruben
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post #783 of 1210
3/30/09 at 11:19am
You are correct. I was just going to zoom in. I wasn't aware that I needed AL in order for me to project on a curved screen. That goes to show you how much I Know about the products. I guess I will be looking at the AT 120-130" Screen.
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post #784 of 1210
3/30/09 at 12:36pm
Hello Ruben,

Do you have any plans to let people who purchased a ProLine frame before these manual masks were available purchase more screen material? I trimmed mine to short to move the screen to the outer set of channels when I originally did the installation as the impression I received at the time was that the masking setup was going to attach or clip to the outside of the frame.
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post #785 of 1210
3/30/09 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by Baenwort View Post

Hello Ruben,

Do you have any plans to let people who purchased a ProLine frame before these manual masks were available purchase more screen material? I trimmed mine to short to move the screen to the outer set of channels when I originally did the installation as the impression I received at the time was that the masking setup was going to attach or clip to the outside of the frame.

Hi,

Yes, just give us the serial # on the back of the ProLine or ProCurv frame or your name and address and we will get you a replacement.

Ruben
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post #786 of 1210
3/30/09 at 7:54pm
Here is a side view of the ProPanels being installed in a 120" wide 2.37 ProCurv...

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post #787 of 1210
3/30/09 at 10:49pm
Are you guys still working on a higher gain material?
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post #788 of 1210
3/31/09 at 1:51pm
Hey Ruben, any chance to buy material sans frame? I am in limbo as to size and AR. My current hole is for a 80" 16:9 but would like to live with a 108 wide 2.40 for a while before I decide if the extra construction (tear down current false wall, etc) is worth the effort. So I would l would like to get the material for the larger screen as a trial and then I can build out whichever frame I settle on.

Thanks!
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post #789 of 1210
3/31/09 at 1:56pm
Ruben,
you got PM.
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post #790 of 1210
4/1/09 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by Briands View Post

Hey Ruben, any chance to buy material sans frame? I am in limbo as to size and AR. My current hole is for a 80" 16:9 but would like to live with a 108 wide 2.40 for a while before I decide if the extra construction (tear down current false wall, etc) is worth the effort. So I would l would like to get the material for the larger screen as a trial and then I can build out whichever frame I settle on.

Thanks!

For myself, 80" at 2.4 wouldn't cut it. I thought my 106" 1.78 screen seemed larger than life (10 ft from the front row) and it seems so completely NORMAL now. Tear down and never wonder!

Though I'm sure Ruben will have his own two cents.
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post #791 of 1210
4/1/09 at 1:51pm
Ruben,

I've been in contact with your sales folks, and found out that you no longer sell just the screen material.

Any chance you will change this policy for those of us that have other framing techniques and will not use the SMX frame?

I'm really interested in your screen product, but I don't want to throw away a perfectly good SMX frame and don't want to pay for a frame I'll be throwing away.

Anyway, I'm really hoping you'll consider selling the screen material as a separate item. I think you'll find a bunch of us out there willing to jump in and buy.

Please let me know if this will be an option.

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Brett
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post #792 of 1210
4/1/09 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by bat3329 View Post

Ruben,

I've been in contact with your sales folks, and found out that you no longer sell just the screen material.

Any chance you will change this policy for those of us that have other framing techniques and will not use the SMX frame?

I'm really interested in your screen product, but I don't want to throw away a perfectly good SMX frame and don't want to pay for a frame I'll be throwing away.

Anyway, I'm really hoping you'll consider selling the screen material as a separate item. I think you'll find a bunch of us out there willing to jump in and buy.

Please let me know if this will be an option.

Thanks
Brett


Hi Brett,

If you already own a ProLine frame, we will get you the screen surface no problem.

email me directly or PM me your email and I will get you set up.

Ruben
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post #793 of 1210
4/3/09 at 9:18am
Ruben:

I got the email last week concerning your new manual masking system. Terrific idea and looks like a well thought out product. Would it work on other companies curved scope frames. I think I read you have a tracking/kit to modify the version of the older SMX frames....could that kit work on other companies frames too.

Sorry to say I was a "beta" tester for a another companies scope frame and have an investment in my frame, which would be tough to recapture, so buying an tirely new frame probably isn't an option.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks
Ron
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post #794 of 1210
4/6/09 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by rboster View Post

Ruben:

I got the email last week concerning your new manual masking system. Terrific idea and looks like a well thought out product. Would it work on other companies curved scope frames. I think I read you have a tracking/kit to modify the version of the older SMX frames....could that kit work on other companies frames too.

Sorry to say I was a "beta" tester for a another companies scope frame and have an investment in my frame, which would be tough to recapture, so buying an tirely new frame probably isn't an option.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks
Ron

Hi Ron,

Unfortunately the ProPanels only work for our screens. However we are working on a add on ProPanel masking solution that will work for all flat screens and will be inexpensive as well.

Ruben
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post #795 of 1210
4/6/09 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

Hi Ron,

Unfortunately the ProPanels only work for our screens. However we are working on a add on ProPanel masking solution that will work for all flat screens and will be inexpensive as well.

Ruben

That sounds great. Please let me know if you start producing a product for curved screens too (since that's what my current screen is).

Thanks of the reply

All the best
Ron
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post #796 of 1210
4/7/09 at 9:51am
Hi Ruben,

This is my first theater and I am planning the screen size, riser, etc for my theater room and need some help.

My Room (Excluding Hallways, etc is 18' 10" Deep by 18' 3" Wide with two rows of four or five seats. The distance to the first row will be approx 11 to 12 feet but yet TBD. I have a diagram/layout if it will help.

Projector: Panasonic 3000
Sound: Klipsch THX Ultra 2 system - acoustically transparent

Light: None

I know there are others here with the SMX/Panasonic 3000 combination so if others have suggestions from their experience I'd love to hear it too.

I am 99% sold on the SMX ProCurve to maximize brightness but want the biggest size my room and projector will allow (my daily use tv is a 73"). How big is too big?

I'm open to your suggestions.

Thanks in advance
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post #797 of 1210
4/8/09 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by smiddleton5401 View Post

Hi Ruben,

This is my first theater and I am planning the screen size, riser, etc for my theater room and need some help.

My Room (Excluding Hallways, etc is 18' 10" Deep by 18' 3" Wide with two rows of four or five seats. The distance to the first row will be approx 11 to 12 feet but yet TBD. I have a diagram/layout if it will help.

Projector: Panasonic 3000
Sound: Klipsch THX Ultra 2 system - acoustically transparent

Light: None

I know there are others here with the SMX/Panasonic 3000 combination so if others have suggestions from their experience I'd love to hear it too.

I am 99% sold on the SMX ProCurve to maximize brightness but want the biggest size my room and projector will allow (my daily use tv is a 73"). How big is too big?

I'm open to your suggestions.

Thanks in advance

Hi smiddleton,

The maximum width 2.35 screen I would use with the Panasonic 3000 is 130" in a light controlled room. That will give you around 11 - 12 FTL.
You may want to change the bulbs more frequently to keep the lumens up.

Are you planning on using an anamorphic lens? If not, a curved screen really isn't necessary. You will not gain anymore brightness with a curved screen opposed to a flat screen.

The increase in resolution and brightness comes from stretching/scaling the 2.35 black bars outside the projectors pixel panel and using the full panel for the projected content.

Ruben
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post #798 of 1210
4/8/09 at 1:34pm
Hi Ruben,

I have pretty much the same question as Smiddleton regarding screen size and the Panny 3000. I'm going to be using the Pro Line series, but have been debating between the 110" width to 120" width with the front row about 10"6" away. When you say 130" maximum are you talking diagonal or actual width? And would you mind sending me a PM with the price of each, including the new masking panels? Thanks.

Korkster
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post #799 of 1210
4/8/09 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by korkster View Post

Hi Ruben,

I have pretty much the same question as Smiddleton regarding screen size and the Panny 3000. I'm going to be using the Pro Line series, but have been debating between the 110" width to 120" width with the front row about 10"6" away. When you say 130" maximum are you talking diagonal or actual width? And would you mind sending me a PM with the price of each, including the new masking panels? Thanks.

Korkster

I know this was directed to Ruben, but I love my 120" wide SMX screen from a 10' back front row. It works especially well with the speakers behind the screen at the AT material allows. But that's about as large as I'd go.
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post #800 of 1210
4/8/09 at 3:20pm
Hi there -

Quick question for those more familiar with these situations.

I've decided on the Epson 7500UB and I've been researching the type of screen that I should get and stumbled across this thread. I've been really impressed with the feedback from folks on the SmX screen. I know for my budget I will need to go with the Proline Fixed Flat screen and then I'll probably pick up the panels for the manual masking solution.

My question is on the screen size I should go with. I want to get the largest possible screen I can for my room, without going overboard. My front row is about 10.5 to 11 feet from the screen. I have two rows of 6 in my theater - the second row will be 7 feet away from the front row.

My two questions are:

What size screen would you recommend I go with?

And, how will the SmX screen perform with the Epson 7500UB?

Thanks for any help you guys can provide! These forums are amazing!

Also - my theater room is a completely light controlled room - no ambient light issues to worry about.
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post #801 of 1210
4/9/09 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

I know this was directed to Ruben, but I love my 120" wide SMX screen from a 10' back front row. It works especially well with the speakers behind the screen at the AT material allows. But that's about as large as I'd go.

My front row is at 11' and we have an 129" wide SMX ProLine. It works well for us.
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post #802 of 1210
4/11/09 at 7:08am
Are there plans for a high gain AT SmX screen in the near future?

Based on my research and my situation, it looks like I need an AT screen with around 1.3 gain (ideally). As I understand it the SmX Proline screens are pretty close to a neutral gain screen?

My situation is I am looking to do a 16:9 AT Screen at 120" to 130" with a JVC RS20 in a completely light controlled room.

I'm hearing that given the size of the screen I want to do that the JVC will not be bright enough without some gain (or that it will be okay initially, but then as the bulb gets some use and dims, I will become unhappy with the brightness of the image).

Unfortunately, I kind of already sold myself on the SmX screens and have spent a lot of time reviewing users reviews and any other online information I could find, so I'm having a hard time considering something else. But, in the end, I have to get something that will work for my application.

I would appreciate any feedback that users with similar situations could provide as well as whether or not SmX is coming out with a higher gain solution in the near future?

Thanks!
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post #803 of 1210
4/11/09 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by Zigrivers View Post

Are there plans for a high gain AT SmX screen in the near future?

Based on my research and my situation, it looks like I need an AT screen with around 1.3 gain (ideally). As I understand it the SmX Proline screens are pretty close to a neutral gain screen?

My situation is I am looking to do a 16:9 AT Screen at 120" to 130" with a JVC RS20 in a completely light controlled room.

I'm hearing that given the size of the screen I want to do that the JVC will not be bright enough without some gain (or that it will be okay initially, but then as the bulb gets some use and dims, I will become unhappy with the brightness of the image).

Unfortunately, I kind of already sold myself on the SmX screens and have spent a lot of time reviewing users reviews and any other online information I could find, so I'm having a hard time considering something else. But, in the end, I have to get something that will work for my application.

I would appreciate any feedback that users with similar situations could provide as well as whether or not SmX is coming out with a higher gain solution in the near future?

Thanks!

Hi Zigrivers,

There are allot of people here on AVS using the RS20 with a 120" wide 16:9 SmX screen. No one has been unsatisfied with the brightness of the combo. With that combo you should see about 13 - 14 FTL off the screen.

Check out QueenDVD2 she has a pretty big thread here in the Dedicated Theater Construction area. She is using a 130" wide SmX ProLine screen with the RS-20.

One of my previous projectors was an Optoma H79 and I was only getting about 8 FTL on my 130" wide scope screen. The image was not dim at all to me or my guests. However once the bulb dropped to 50% of its power then I would change it. I calculated the cost of the bulb life and it came up to be .30 cents per movie when I changed it opposed to .22 cents.

If you get an SMX screen an you are not satisfied with the brightness you may return it no problem.

Ruben
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post #804 of 1210
4/12/09 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by SandmanX View Post

Hi smiddleton,

The maximum width 2.35 screen I would use with the Panasonic 3000 is 130" in a light controlled room. That will give you around 11 - 12 FTL.
You may want to change the bulbs more frequently to keep the lumens up.

Are you planning on using an anamorphic lens? If not, a curved screen really isn't necessary. You will not gain anymore brightness with a curved screen opposed to a flat screen.

The increase in resolution and brightness comes from stretching/scaling the 2.35 black bars outside the projectors pixel panel and using the full panel for the projected content.

Ruben

The room fits a 140" 2.35 or 2.40 screen perfectly. I know it is pushing the limits but would that be enough FTL ? Being easier to replace the projector than the screen I didn't want to sacrifice on the permanent piece (screen).

That being said, would you recommend going with the 2.40:1 or 2.35:1 assuming I will go with the masking panels to get as close as possible to the native 2.40 movies and mask to the others?

I thought the curved screen would keep more light off the walls which might help. I may one day "move up" to a projector/lens combo but mostly I like the immersion feeling of a curved screen. I would rather replace the projector as technology grows compared to the screen.

Thanks!
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post #805 of 1210
4/13/09 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by smiddleton5401 View Post

The room fits a 140" 2.35 or 2.40 screen perfectly. I know it is pushing the limits but would that be enough FTL ? Being easier to replace the projector than the screen I didn't want to sacrifice on the permanent piece (screen).

That being said, would you recommend going with the 2.40:1 or 2.35:1 assuming I will go with the masking panels to get as close as possible to the native 2.40 movies and mask to the others?

I thought the curved screen would keep more light off the walls which might help. I may one day "move up" to a projector/lens combo but mostly I like the immersion feeling of a curved screen. I would rather replace the projector as technology grows compared to the screen.

Thanks!

Good choice on getting the right screen the first time. It seems like projectors change almost every six months so starting with the screen and working from there is the ideal choice. It's much easier to resell a small projector than a large screen when it's time to upgrade.

I think 140" is really pushing it with that projector and screen combo. If you are planning on doing an anamorphic lens in the future, go with 2.37:1 and the ProPanels to mask 16:9 and 1.33 if needed.

The ProCurv curved screen will help keep light off the side walls but that isn't going to increase the brightness but it will help focus the light towards the center of the room. The curved screen will help correct the bow tie distortion caused by the anamorphic lens. It will also create a more immersive movie experience on scope content.

Ruben
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post #806 of 1210
4/15/09 at 5:45pm
How much "barreling" should I expect from the Panny 3000 setup with the 130" or 140" 40' curved screen? Would a non-professional really notice it?

My bottom line question: is is worth it to go with the curved screen with slight barreling now and a more dramatic immersed picture, knowing I will eventually upgrade the projector to a lens setup?
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post #807 of 1210
4/19/09 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by smiddleton5401 View Post

How much "barreling" should I expect from the Panny 3000 setup with the 130" or 140" 40' curved screen? Would a non-professional really notice it?

My bottom line question: is is worth it to go with the curved screen with slight barreling now and a more dramatic immersed picture, knowing I will eventually upgrade the projector to a lens setup?

Hi smiddleton,

You will probably mostly notice it with a grid pattern up on the screen. You will also have to over-scan the projected image more than normal to fill the screen. If you plan on upgrading to an anamorphic lens in the future, I think the barrel effect may be something you can tolerate in the meantime. It's nothing the untrained eye will notice.

Ruben
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post #808 of 1210
4/21/09 at 11:39am
Hi Ruben, am from india and am in the process of completing my home theater...i need a SMX AT screen for 110 inches diagonal 16:9...can i get a made screen or the screen fabric for the above said size?? i have emailed SMX asking for a quote but i dint get a reply..can u please help me out?? thanks in advance..vignesh
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post #809 of 1210
4/21/09 at 12:42pm
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Hi Ruben, am from india and am in the process of completing my home theater...i need a SMX AT screen for 110 inches diagonal 16:9...can i get a made screen or the screen fabric for the above said size?? i have emailed SMX asking for a quote but i dint get a reply..can u please help me out?? thanks in advance..vignesh

Hi Vignesh,

I apologize for that. Please PM me your email address and I will contact you directly.

Ruben
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post #810 of 1210
4/24/09 at 10:17am
hi ruben,PM sent..please help me out with the details....thanks in advance,
Vignesh
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