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Please try my Seesaw configuration.

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I updated the Seesaw Avisynth config.

I'm fairly certain that this is the best config I've formatted yet,
and so, I'm hoping that the people who don't read the sticky thread anymore will try it out.

________ SeeSaw Avisynth . Updated April 30, 2007________

Codecs: All supported
Avisynth: YV12 checked, Add FFdshow Video source checked

SetMemoryMax(1024)
FluxSmoothT(3)
ColorMatrix(Mode="Rec.601->Rec.709",scaling=2,threads=2)
MT("SeeSaw(NRlimit=0, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=2.40, Szp=1, Slimit=50, Sdamplo=16, Spower=1, sootheT=95, SdampHi=39)",3)
lanczosresize(1680, 1050)

Queue & Output: Queue output samples checked
Output: YV12 checked

The full instructions are in the sticky thread I wrote, at the top of this forum.
Specify the lanczosresize to fit your screen's resolution.
post #2 of 15
i've tried taking the time to read through the stick to figure out how to implament avsynth and see saw into FFdshow, but is there a lazy person guide to setting it up and get it working?

- Josh
post #3 of 15
That was a lazy persons guide.. I finally got it AFTER I read the instructions several times. It's fairly simple, I felt like an ass because I didn't read it fully.
post #4 of 15
hrm... maybe i'll have to re-read it then, i guess i just didn't understand it correctly.

- Josh
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by umdivx
i've tried taking the time to read through the stick to figure out how to implament avsynth and see saw into FFdshow, but is there a lazy person guide to setting it up and get it working?

- Josh
Hi Josh. I updated the instructions.
Just look at the link to see a demonstration of how to set up FFDshow.
Install the software first, then follow the instructions below.
I like to use Media Player Classic myself. Just pick ZP, MPC ot TT.
Put the plugins into the avisynth plugins folder.

FFDshow. Updated May 1, 2007


Codecs: All supported
Avisynth: YV12 checked, Add FFdshow Video source checked

SetMemoryMax(1024)
FluxSmoothT(3)
ColorMatrix(Mode="Rec.601->Rec.709",scaling=2,threads=2)
MT("SeeSaw(NRlimit=0, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=2.40, Szp=1, Slimit=50, Sdamplo=16, Spower=1, sootheT=95, SdampHi=39)",3)
lanczosresize(1680, 1050)

Queue & Output: Queue output samples checked
Output: YV12 checked


________ TheaterTek ________

- Right Click the TheaterTek screen and click Configuration.
- Click the Video Tab, under Post Processing "Primary" set FFDshow MPEG-4 Video Decoder.
Set Nothing for Secondary Post Processor.
- Click the Audio Tab, under Audio Device set ReClock Audio Renderer.(Reclock is not used in Vista)
- Click the File Types Tab, check the .ifo box. This is for DVD's, so you can use FFDshow.
- Click Apply and Ok.
- To set up ffdshow. Go to the Windows Start button,
then all programs, ffdshow and selecting Video decoder configuration.

________ Media Player Classic. Updated May 1, 2007 ________
- Click the View button, and the Options Button.
- Click the Audio Switcher Tab, Slide the bar to the far right.
- Click the External Filters Tab.
- Click the Add Filter Button.
- Double click the filters you want. You'll need;
FFdshow Audio decoder
Video Decoder
Reclock Audio Renderer (Reclock is not used in Vista)
- After you see them in the External Filter screen. highlight each one and click Prefer.
- Double Click the Video Decoder you chose.
If it's the Dscaler 5008 video decoder, you just need to go to the Output Colorspace tab, set it to YV12.
If it's the Nvidia Video decoder, set the Deinterlace Control to Film, check Prefer VMR9, uncheck Hardware aceleration.
If it's the Cyberlink video decoder, set it to weave.
- To set up ffdshow. Go to the Windows Start button,
then all programs, ffdshow and selecting Video decoder configuration.

________ Zoomplayer. Updated May 1, 2007 ________
- Right click the Zoomplayer screen and click the Options tab.
- Click the Advanced Mode tab.
- Click the Playback, "Smart Play" Tab, uncheck "Enable Smart Play"
- Click the Playback, DVD tab, and the sub tab 'Smart (Recommended)'.
- Highlight a Video decoder, the FFdshow audio decoder, reclock audio renderer (Reclock is not used in Vista).
- Click the Add button, and double click the FFdshow Raw Video Processor button.
- click the Register Selected Filters button.
- Double click the FFdshow Raw Video Processor button and under the codecs tab, set it to all supported.
This step is very important.
- Double Click the Video Decoder you chose.
If it's the Dscaler 5008 video decoder, you just need to go to the Output Colorspace tab, set it to YV12.
If it's the Nvidia Video decoder, set the Deinterlace Control to Film, check Prefer VMR9, uncheck Hardware aceleration.
If it's the Cyberlink video decoder, set it to weave.
- An advanced step that people like is called, Exclusive Renderless Mode.
In the Video tab, check 'Use exclusive fullscreen VMR9 Renderless Mode'.
In the smart tab you'll need to check VMR9 Renderless to use this feature.
- To set up ffdshow. Go to the Windows Start button,
then all programs, ffdshow and selecting Video decoder configuration.




________ FFdshow Audio Decoder. Updated May 1, 2007 ________
- Check OSD,and Check Jitter.
- Close FFdshow Audio Decoder, and play a movie.
- While the movie is playing. You'll the the word "Jitter" in the top left of the screen.
Beside the word Jitter is a number. Write this number down, or remember what it was.
- Open the FFdshow Audio decoder again.
Check the Delay Tab. Set each box to the number you wrote down in the previous step.
- Check the Equalizer tab. Set the Equalizer starting from the far left slider: -7.92, -4.92, -1.92, -3.96, -4.92, -5.88, -3.96, -1.92, 0, -3.00
- Check the Volume Tab, uncheck Normalize, check Reset on seek, check show current volume levels.
- Check the Mixer Tab. Check "Normalize Matrix", Check the "Output Speakers Configuration" tab.
If you are using only 2 speakers, or headphones select "2/0 - stereo".
Check LFE if your using a subwoofer.
Checking Normalize Matrix is very important.
- Close the FFdshow audio decoder by pressing Apply and OK.

________ Reclock. Updated May 1, 2007 ________
- Vista doesn't need reclock.
- While playing a movie, Double click the Reclock icon by the clock to access configuration.
Check Enable Sound Compressor, set it to Normal.
- Also nessessary, open the Reclock Configuration from where you installed it on your hard drive,
or you can click Windows Start button, All Programs, Reclock, Configure Reclock.
- Click the Video Settings Tab. Uncheck "Determine Framerate of DVD's using built in estimator".
There's 2 boxes, one of them has "for DVD's" written beside it,
the other one has "for other files" written beside it.
The numbers in these boxes are supposed to evenly devide into your monitor's refrsh rate.
To see your monitors refresh rate. Right click your desktop screen, check the properties tab,
check the settings tab, check the advanced tab, check the monitor tab. You'll see a number in the Monitor tab.
If it's 75 hertz, you set the 2 boxes in reclock'I showed you to 25.
If the monitor screen says it's 60 hertz, set the 2 boxes in reclock I showed you to 30.

You can tell Reclock is working because there will be a constant green light on the reclock icon, by the pc clock.
If your playing a .ts file. Then you can't really adjust the fps in reclock to match the refresh rate.
You need to set the refresh rate to match the fps in the .ts file.
Opening reclock properties by clicking the reclock icon during movie playback, and looking at "Video Stream" in the Media infos box to see the frame rate being used.
You'll need to use powerstrip to match the refresh rate as closely as you can to a multiple of the Video Stream fps.

________ Software ________

Theatertek
DScaler
Zoomplayer Pro
Media Player Classic
Reclock
Winrar
Avisynth
FFDshow
MT
Removegrain 0.9
Removegrain 1.0
MT_Masktools
Masktools
Colormatrix
TDeint
Fluxsmooth

- List of the nessessary Avisynth plugins to go in the plugin folder. 11 in total.
LimitedSharpenFaster.avsi
SeeSaw.avsi (rename the seesaw extension to .avsi)
Soothe.avsi

MT.dll
MaskTools.dll
mt_masktools.dll

RepairSSE2.dll and RemoveGrainSSE2.dll or...
...RepairSSE3 and RemoveGrainSSE3.dll

ColorMatrix.dll
TDeint.dll
Fluxsmooth.dll

 

1.zip 188.8603515625k . file

 

2.zip 255.43359375k . file

 

3.zip 292.849609375k . file
post #6 of 15
OMG thanks for that. hehe. I'll give it a whirl when I've got some time.

- Josh
post #7 of 15
Alright 8:13, I tried them and it's MUCH MUCH better, I don't have that yellow line or the convergence problem, audio is fine and the picture is fine.

Onto my sharpness problem. I am sure it's just something with the size of TV I am watching it on and a few other problems but when credits appear for the movie its got way too much extra noise in there.

Also, a small color problem. The colors are not "rich" enough. Blue's look almost grey and red's look a bit dark..

There are no jaggies and I don't see any stuttering..
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
AnthonyB,

The noise is there because I lowered the fluxsmootht from 8 to 3.
I had too, at 8 it destroyed a lot of the picture even though it denoised well in the hqv disk.

The colors are normal it your resizing it to, or past 1280x720, or hd resolution.
post #9 of 15
I changed lancosresize to 1920x1080.

I'll try a different movie and let you know, if you want me to follow up.
post #10 of 15
8:13,

Attached files (1.zip, 2.zip and 3.zip) appear as invalid or corrupted after the download. Tried with WinRar and XP "Extract All".
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by galileo2000 View Post

8:13,

Attached files (1.zip, 2.zip and 3.zip) appear as invalid or corrupted after the download. Tried with WinRar and XP "Extract All".

Download the plugins from this link.
Link

When I edit my thread and there download the plugins 1, 2, 3 it's uncorrupt.
But if I download from the non-editing page it's corrupt.
So, I'm sure it's not the folders for the plugins, but a problem with avsforum.
post #12 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8:13 View Post

Download the plugins from this link.
Link

When I edit my thread and there download the plugins 1, 2, 3 it's uncorrupt.
But if I download from the non-editing page it's corrupt.
So, I'm sure it's not the folders for the plugins, but a problem with avsforum.

Yes, it is avsforum upload/download issue.

Thank you very much for doing all this, I really appreciate your dedication and your results.
post #13 of 15
Thanks. I think I will try this when I get home. I was using your limitedsharpen settings before and loved the results but was having issues with DVD menus. Is that normal with using FFDSHOW or could it be the version I was using? I am now using a newer version that works with Vista so I'm curious if I should expect that again.
post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 
I've had a problem with the menu in the movie "Brotherhood of the Wolf", and "The Bourne identity".
post #15 of 15
My issue was with all DVD menus. I will definitely try these new settings and see what kind of results I get. Now that Theatertek runs in Vista, I can't wait to test it all out.
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