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post #211 of 6891
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Originally Posted by ironchef25 View Post

ambilight is awsome. this tv is excelent. i only have one stuck pixel its not bad cause if you look at it from 2 ft wont be able to tell or see.. as far as the picture quality its extremely good. the only bad thing is that hdmi handshake issue. once that gets resolve it will be perfect.

i havent experience the black bar on the side or the humming after the update. i ll let you guys know if it does.


I had four stuck pixel's last night (or so I thought). Today though I can only see two of them and don't even notice those from a foot back. My buzzing is very quiet and I literally have to have my ear about 6 inches from the screen to even hear anything.
post #212 of 6891
mrconos the xbox 360 is super on this tv , Gears of War is 10/10 pic quality @ 1080p through component , which tv does ...... the only thing that i'm trying to find out is that Little humming sound which Philips Tv hopefully can get me an answer
post #213 of 6891
Great to hear that we have S-IPS LCD TVs coming to market for users like me who are mostly interested in with the computer display function (S-IPS has superior color representation) and include an ATSC tuner for TV purposes.

Could someone please confirm with me that this TV does 1920x1080 resolution on computer output 1:1 at 60 Hz.

Also have you tried 1280x720 since if used from distance as a computer monitor text is legible this way (without increasing the OS font size).

One last thing, what is the avialability of these new 1080p Philips sets in Canada?

My uncle in Holland retired from Philips and my family had owned Philips CRT TVs in the past and I have upmost trust in their products!!!

Go Philips, very good job!
post #214 of 6891
ok just played around with the settings when its on vivid it makes this godly awful noise , i set on natural it goes does down a lot , then to movie its silent .. whats with the brightness affecting the noise .
post #215 of 6891
Thread Starter 
I would only notice the humming when I put my ear next to the TV. I would test out 1920x1080 resolution on computer output 1:1 at 60 Hz when I get my dvi - hdmi cable. I'll let you know, sharpie.
I agree with the xbox 360, playing Gears of war at 1080p is a new experience.
post #216 of 6891
can u guys test it out on vivid natural & movie let me know hows the humming on ur end ...thx
post #217 of 6891
just check mine and i didnt not notice any humming in vivid movie or natural.
post #218 of 6891
Powermix24,

What is the source of the buzzing? Is it coming from the speakers or does it sound like something inside the TV?
post #219 of 6891
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Originally Posted by daveinga View Post

Powermix24,

What is the source of the buzzing? Is it coming from the speakers or does it sound like something inside the TV?


I can add that mine seems to be coming from the tv itself, not the speakers. It does seem to change intensity depending what king of color/background is on the screen. It's honestly not that loud at all but I don't believe it was there before the firmware update.
post #220 of 6891
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

I can add that mine seems to be coming from the tv itself, not the speakers. It does seem to change intensity depending what king of color/background is on the screen. It's honestly not that loud at all but I don't believe it was there before the firmware update.

Actually the sharp 62U series that I owned for a short while had this issue as well and did not bother me much.
post #221 of 6891
sadly, the purchase of this display came with my wife's stipulation that there be no more big electronic purchases until it is paid off, so no 1080p until then. even with the no interest until 2009, i am going to pay this bad boy off in time for halo 3, so i can buy an xbox 360...anyway here is a peek at my new setup..



steven
post #222 of 6891
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Originally Posted by sharpie07 View Post

Actually the sharp 62U series that I owned for a short while had this issue as well and did not bother me much.

My friend actually has a sharp that has a similar buzzing. It isn't a deal breaker to me though either because it is very hard to hear even up close. Now if those weird streak/smudge lines show up again from the weekend, then there will be a problem.
post #223 of 6891
for those that have smudges what does it look like? where exactly? im currious to see what it looks like if you can take some pics that would be awsome. cause ive look for mine and i dont see any or im not looking at the right place.
post #224 of 6891
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Originally Posted by ironchef25 View Post

for those that have smudges what does it look like? where exactly? im currious to see what it looks like if you can take some pics that would be awsome. cause ive look for mine and i dont see any or im not looking at the right place.

If they come back, I will definitely take pictures. As I described a few posts back, it started really weird. I was at the PS3 menu screen and about to play Resistance. I noticed something on the screen that looked liked dust. When I went up the screen there were four somewhat circular (not perfect though) smudges and the pixels seemed to pulse inside. I was horrified of course. So I turned off/on the TV/PS3 and tried again. This time there was nothing until about 10 seconds later when the weird pulsing smudges appeared. I powered on my XBOX360 and did not notice it. So I switched HDMI inputs and noticed there was nothing there now. So I went back to the original HDMI input and now smudge streaks appeared instead of the circular ones. They also seemed to fade and then reappear in another section of the screen. I then powered off the tv and connected/reconnected the HDMI cable. When I did this a second time and powered on the TV/PS3, the smudges/lines were gone. I had already tested another HDMI cable so I know it isn't that nor my PS3. I ran the tv all day yesterday thinking it might of been a heat issue. The marks have not come back since Saturday night. I have a little less than 2 weeks left at BB to return the set so I am trying to be as picky as I can. Hopefully it won't come back but I have never seen that kind of issue before. Maybe the connection was loose or maybe the HDMI 2 input is flaky at times (really doubt this) but regardless it is something I am looking for in case it comes back. Sorry I wrote so much but this is pretty much what I saw Saturday. Now the line down right side of the tv is something I didn't notice until this weekend. That definitely wasn't there before the firmware update but it can be hidden without any issues.
post #225 of 6891
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Originally Posted by wormbaby View Post

I would test out 1920x1080 resolution on computer output 1:1 at 60 Hz when I get my dvi - hdmi cable.

I tried 1920x1080 (60Hz, 32bpp, progressive) from my wide-screen HP laptop using DVI-HDMI cable. It worked. But, almost more than 1 inch from both the sides (vertical and horizontal) were not displaying anything. I was using High-resolution. Black bars were getting displayed in 4 sides. The TV "info" was displaying "1080p" and the computer was reporting 1920x1080 (60Hz, 32bpp).

Another point, there was a difference in color between my laptop screen and TV screen. Looks like some of the colors are getting washed away in the TV. I was seeing some noise in the lighter color part of the pictures.

Philips TV and/or daveinga - any comments?
post #226 of 6891
Philips TV/daveinga,

Any update of the new firmware? Is it getting released today?
post #227 of 6891
Philips TV or Daveinga,

I have 42PFL7432D and it does not display the 1920x1080 at 60 Hz in full screen. About an inch of border gets displayed on all sides of the picture. I'm using AIW 1900x Video card and using DVI to HDMI cable in Vista Ultimate. It displays fine on Dell 24 inch LCD monitor.

I have tried all formats (High resolution, wide, Automatic) but it never covers the full screen. If I change the refresh rate to 24 Hz, then it covers all of the screen. If I try 30 Hz, then I get "unsupported signal" error and all blue screen.

Interestignly, if I connect my Dell monitor to the computer, reboot the computer and when its displaying full screen on Dell under 1920x1080 @60Hz, change the Dell monitor with TV cable, I get the full screen on TV too but as soon as I reboot the computer, it goes back to bordered screen again!!!

I have tried two different HDMI ports and had the same problem

Before this TV, I had Toshiba 42HL167 (1080P) and it was full screen on that TV (I replaced my TV this weekend).

Seems like for some reason, Philips TV cannot negotiate proper signal with computer when computer is at 60HZ (handshake issues)

I have the latest firmware on the TV as of yesterday.

Does Anyone has tried connecting computer via DVI to HDMI at 1920x1080 @ 60 Hz on this model?
post #228 of 6891
It seems like Philips is making changes to the 42PFL7432 support page which may be an indication that they are in the process of putting the new firmware up.
post #229 of 6891
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Originally Posted by roopG View Post

Philips TV or Daveinga,

I have 42PFL7432D and it does not display the 1920x1080 at 60 Hz in full screen. About an inch of border gets displayed on all sides of the picture.

Does Anyone has tried connecting computer via DVI to HDMI at 1920x1080 @ 60 Hz on this model?

I just posted (2 posts above you, post# 225) about the same problem. I have ATI Mobility FireGL V5200 (256MB) video card on my laptop.
post #230 of 6891
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Originally Posted by High&Def View Post

It seems like Philips is making changes to the 42PFL7432 support page which may be an indication that they are in the process of putting the new firmware up.

Here is what the web-page says:
http://www.usasupport.philips.com/pr...=42PFL7422D/37

42" LCD flat HDTV Perfect Pixel HD 42PFL7422D/37

For this product we have no documentation available.
post #231 of 6891
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Originally Posted by pikoo View Post

I just posted (2 posts above you, post# 225) about the same problem. I have ATI Mobility FireGL V5200 (256MB) video card on my laptop.

Pikoo,

I must have been typing when you posted it.

This problem is very annoying. At 24Hz I do get the full screen but then picture is not smooth and I see jerks in camera movements.
post #232 of 6891
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Originally Posted by roopG View Post

Pikoo,
This problem is very annoying. At 24Hz I do get the full screen but then picture is not smooth and I see jerks in camera movements.

Do you see the lighter color wash-out? It is like if you use a projector to display your computer screen using VGA, some of the lighter colors get changed, I am seeing similar behavior.

I am not also able to get the "right" color for my HD and SD content. My contrast is set to 100! If I lower it, then the picture look pale.

I am missing the Sharp's (92U) 15000:1 contrast ratio. I think Sharp did a better color re-production with 5-wavelength system. But the banding was unacceptable.
post #233 of 6891
no humming was there before the update ! it doesn't bother me unless the volume is down
.. u can hear it its there , its a problem , humming on a lcd is not normal . imagine the thing on mute .. its loud on the vivid setting , so if i want a little brighter i get humming ..

yess its not a big deal .. but on a 2000 $ tv it is ! on a philips brand it is ! seems like i'm not the only one .. i love this tv though ..

now on the website theres no documentation on the tv what so ever ! maybe they working on updating it !
post #234 of 6891
the humming is coming from the tv itself btw from the back of it
post #235 of 6891
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Originally Posted by pikoo View Post

Do you see the lighter color wash-out? It is like if you use a projector to display your computer screen using VGA, some of the lighter colors get changed, I am seeing similar behavior.

I am not also able to get the "right" color for my HD and SD content. My contrast is set to 100! If I lower it, then the picture look pale.

I am missing the Sharp's (92U) 15000:1 contrast ratio. I think Sharp did a better color re-production with 5-wavelength system. But the banding was unacceptable.

Other than that it does not do full screen at 60 Hz, I have no other problem. Colors are as good as they are on Dell LCD monitor. I'm waiting for PhilipsTV or daveinga's reply on this issue. May be the next firmware upgrade will fix this.
post #236 of 6891
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Originally Posted by powermix24 View Post

the humming is coming from the tv itself btw from the back of it

I checked my TV for any kind of noise or humming and I did not hear it even when I was few inches away from the TV (both from front and back of TV).
post #237 of 6891
did u do the update roopG ? i have it set on natural now i hear nothing its silent .. actually i like the setting on it like this .. vivid would be nice too :P
post #238 of 6891
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Originally Posted by powermix24 View Post

did u do the update roopG ? i have it set on natural now i hear nothing its silent .. actually i like the setting on it like this .. vivid would be nice too :P

Yes I have applied the update as of yesterday.
post #239 of 6891
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Originally Posted by powermix24 View Post

did u do the update roopG ? i have it set on natural now i hear nothing its silent .. actually i like the setting on it like this .. vivid would be nice too :P

Are you using the TV speakers? In my case the volume in the TV is set to 0 and I am listening to the sound thru the JBL home theater system. If I want to check for the humming sound, what is the best way to re-produce it?
post #240 of 6891
Specifications from the Philips web site:

"Product weight (lb) : 76.3 lb
Product weight (+stand) (lb) : 60.8 lb "

How can the weight be less with the stand on!!
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