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post #31 of 6891
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Originally Posted by gameling View Post

I am interested in this unit too. Here is the link to the Philips spec sheet since I didn't see it posted here:

http://www.p4c.philips.com/na4/4/42...37b_pss_aen.pdf

I saw the unit at BB yesterday and it looked as good as others. Natural looking colors and off angle viewing looked like it didn't wash out. Tough to tell in the store though. Can an owner please comment on the off angle viewing? How far can you go out to the sides before it washes the picture out?

Also, anyone check out the USB side connector yet? Curious about how it does playing JPEG pics through a thumb drive? Can it handle large size pictures (say 8 megapixel) and scroll though them at a decent clip?

HDMI ver. 1.3 connectors are not mentioned on the spec sheet so I am guessing it doesn't have them. Wish it did as that would certainly make it much more future proof.

Off angle viewing is great. Just as good as my Sony 40V2500. I have only gone about 5 feet from the sides and it wasn't washed out to me at all.
post #32 of 6891
Thanks for the real life experiences with the viewing angle. I have gone through several Toshiba's and a Sharp and they ranged from so so to completely unacceptable at off angle viewing. Glad to hear that this unit seems to have that figured out.

My other big issue with the "other" brands has been backlight uniformity issues (e.g., ghost bars on the Toshiba's, clouds and maura on the Sony's and Samsung units, verticle and horizontal bars on the Sharp's, etc.). On this new Phillips, can one or more of you early owners comment on this? Issues seem to show mostly when there are bright scenes that pan like tracking a golf shot through the air or watching a hockey game. With this new generation of CCFL backlighting I am hoping that Philips has figured out a better way of distributing the light in a more uniform way but others seen to be going down the road of masking the issues with auto backlight adjustments and screen filters while waiting until the newer LED backlights become more universal.

Your comments are much appreciated.
post #33 of 6891
i cant wait till i get this tv. 2 more days argh!.
is the ambilight for this tv only in just two sides meaning left and right or all around the tv? including top and bottom
post #34 of 6891
Ambilight is on the left and right sides and there is an on off button on the remote control as well as options on colors (same color all the time or changing color based on content).
post #35 of 6891
Any suggestions on color/picture settings for this TV? I am color blind and have a hard time setting it. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!
post #36 of 6891
for those that have this tv already.are there any issues you have notice with this tv(ghosting,audio sync, stuck pixel, picture smearing, loud noise, ect). 2 more days for me till i get it. cant wait.


also i just went to extend4less to buy a warranty and i was quoted 140+ for 5 years. what do you guys think?. or should i just go with best buy. 200 for 4 years.
any of you have any experience with a third party warranty service?
post #37 of 6891
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Well I really don't use the ambilight option because it is in an entertainment center . I read somewhere that Philip's uses LG's LCD panels in manufacturing. I could be wrong though but that's what I heard. I looked hard at the LG but liked the look and build of the Philips tv. Nothing against the LG but it just didn't look any better than the Philip's TV and was a little bit more. I think also hearing about quite a few people (my friend included) getting a set with the whirling noise also made the decision a little easier. He did get a good set though after returning the first one. Verdict is still out on the brand (I have always bought big brands like Sony/Panasonic) but I am pretty impressed so far.

Not exactly LG's ... it's a JV between Philips and LG, I understand it ... it's called LG-Philips or now LP Panel. Even though the panels are the same, the video circuitries are diff.

Ambilight are (or were) flourescent lamps ... so, they buzz ... heard that Philips now changed to Ambilight to LED instead (which should not buzz any more) but the catalog didn't mention a thing. Can anyone confirm?

post #38 of 6891
The Ambilight modules are indeed LED based now.
post #39 of 6891
Thread Starter 
As far as problem I haven't really have any. There was one incident where it would not display the 1080i image from my dvd player (says "Unsupported format), but it was solved by restarting the LCD.
One really annoying thing for me is Widescreen option for 4:3 material. I want an panorama option where it will stretch the edge more then the center. It will do that on automatic setting, but it tend to zoom in and out once in a while.
post #40 of 6891
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Originally Posted by wormbaby View Post

As far as problem I haven't really have any. There was one incident where it would not display the 1080i image from my dvd player (says "Unsupported format), but it was solved by restarting the LCD.
One really annoying thing for me is Widescreen option for 4:3 material. I want an panorama option where it will stretch the edge more then the center. It will do that on automatic setting, but it tend to zoom in and out once in a while.

The 300WN5 I bough my oldman does have that non-linear stretch mode but when I watched some sports program like horse-racing, some strange "effects" resulted ... I never used that mode again.

An external VP may do the job better but that also means $$$
post #41 of 6891
my neighbor picked up this tv yesterday. played some gears colors seemed a tad washed i will probably try to eye it up a bit better. its not like you can use any software to calliberate the 360 :/
post #42 of 6891
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Originally Posted by AK47 View Post

Not exactly LG's ... it's a JV between Philips and LG, I understand it ... it's called LG-Philips or now LP Panel. Even though the panels are the same, the video circuitries are diff.

Ambilight are (or were) flourescent lamps ... so, they buzz ... heard that Philips now changed to Ambilight to LED instead (which should not buzz any more) but the catalog didn't mention a thing. Can anyone confirm?


So is this panel the S-IPS like the new LG. I thought I read taht the LG has 178 viewing angle, but teh Phillips is only 176. Also I thought the phillips is TFT active matrix instead of the IPS, which is why the lower spec'd viewing angle. I know the numbers from the manuf. don't mean alot, but you would think they would spec the same if they are indeed the same panel. They are both rated at 5ms pixel response I noticed, which is good.
Any thoughts from anybody. Phillips TV I'm looking your direction. You seem to have a lot of info about, well, Phillips TVs.
Thanks, John
post #43 of 6891
Hey wormbaby if you need to convert the coaxial audio to optical get an external converter box.

I am using a converter box by Audio Authority and it works great. Here is the link: https://www.audioauthority.com/indexh.php Click on Signal Converters. The model you need is 977TPO. It runs about 75 bones. Or you can look around the net, there might be other options...
post #44 of 6891
Thread Starter 
In Training: Yeah, I know about the coax converter. It's just that I have lots of toslink but no digital coax cable at all that's why I wanted toslink. But it's no biggy, since my receiver have an digital coax in. Thanks for the reply tho.


AK47: I know about the strange effect with panorama stretch. I have always used it on my Samsung HDTV CRT. I agree with you. The strange effect is quite annoying sometime, but it works great most of the time. I really miss it. lol
post #45 of 6891
just called best buy and they said they already have my tv.woot :O i cant wait. will let you guys know how it goes. btw are there anything i should look out for. also is there away to know how many hours this tv has been on. iknow some tv offers that features.
post #46 of 6891
Hey, I have read all the specs on the Philips website, submitted an on-line question on the website, and spent a half hour on the phone with customer support and haven't been able to find the answer to what seems to be a fairly simple question:

Are the HDMI connectors on the 42PFL7432 ver. 1.3?

The reply I got on my email was that "I can use any HDMI cable with this TV". Not much help since ver. 1.3 is backward compatible I still don't have an answer. After a half hour on the phone, the representative told me he found a web site that mentioned ver. 1.3. It was this thread and my earlier question he was looking at. Sad when the company staff has to come here to find answers to product questions...
post #47 of 6891
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Originally Posted by BIGJOHNB20 View Post

So is this panel the S-IPS like the new LG. I thought I read taht the LG has 178 viewing angle, but teh Phillips is only 176. Also I thought the phillips is TFT active matrix instead of the IPS, which is why the lower spec'd viewing angle. I know the numbers from the manuf. don't mean alot, but you would think they would spec the same if they are indeed the same panel. They are both rated at 5ms pixel response I noticed, which is good.
Any thoughts from anybody. Phillips TV I'm looking your direction. You seem to have a lot of info about, well, Phillips TVs.

The panel is S-IPS. TFT is the base technology not a competing technology. Wikipedia has some pretty good information on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

As for the discrepancy on the viewing angle, I'll have to look into it. It could be a typo for either LG or Philips.

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Originally Posted by gameling View Post

Are the HDMI connectors on the 42PFL7432 ver. 1.3?

The reply I got on my email was that "I can use any HDMI cable with this TV". Not much help since ver. 1.3 is backward compatible I still don't have an answer. After a half hour on the phone, the representative told me he found a web site that mentioned ver. 1.3. It was this thread and my earlier question he was looking at. Sad when the company staff has to come here to find answers to product questions...

Sorry about that gameling, trying to help answer questions but some do slip by.

The TV is HDMI version 1.2a
post #48 of 6891
Can you pl. give some detail about the "42PFL7422D/37" model which will be hitting in the stores soon? Is it same as "42PFL7432D/37" minus the Ambilight? I don't find any info about "42PFL7422D" in the philips web-page.
post #49 of 6891
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Originally Posted by pikoo View Post

Can you pl. give some detail about the "42PFL7422D/37" model which will be hitting in the stores soon? Is it same as "42PFL7432D/37" minus the Ambilight? I don't find any info about "42PFL7422D" in the philips web-page.

It is shipping now, I'll check to see when it will be posted on the website.

It is similar to the 42PFL7432D/37 with these exceptions
- No Ambilight
- Different Stand
- Different Remote
post #50 of 6891
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Originally Posted by Philips TV View Post

It is shipping now, I'll check to see when it will be posted on the website.

It is similar to the 42PFL7432D/37 with these exceptions
- No Ambilight
- Different Stand
- Different Remote

Thank you very much. Is the picture of 42PFL7422D in Amazon.com right? Amazon also mentioned "Pixel Plus". I think it should be "Pixel Perfect" - right?
post #51 of 6891
well after a good 3 hour session with this tv last night watching the spurs and pheonix game. i can now say that this tv is REALY GOOD! it gets about 8/10 from me. picture is nice and crisp. i absulutely love the demo features that it had when i first turn it on. sound is average. case and stand is excelent, love the swing action of the stand. remote is very basic. kinna bulky. ambilight is awsome. sd picture was realy good. well compare to my samsung dlp. hd content plays realy good. didnt notice any ghosting or hickups from watching the game.price for the tv is a bargain for a 1080p with ambilight plus a new model!. over all i say this tv gets a 8/10 from me.

i did notice that when the format is in auto. it would change the screen stretch base on the content of the tv back and forth. kinna anoying but nothing realy serious.

btw no dead or stuck pixel so thats a plus!
post #52 of 6891
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Originally Posted by Philips TV View Post

The panel is S-IPS. TFT is the base technology not a competing technology. Wikipedia has some pretty good information on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

Hey Phillips, thanks for the response. I was a little unsure about that, whether or not TFT active matrix was a specific LCD technology like IPS or PVA. But I guess it is actually that IPS and PVA are in fact specific types of TFT. I checked out that wiki article. I think I have actually read that before, but it was a while ago. I think I got the TN+ tech confused with TFT. Anyway, so the panel is the same as the LG S-IPS. It is strange that LG is marketing the panel type heavily, I have seen this listed as part of the "feature" set of the LG numerous places, while the Phillips doesn't mention anything but TFT active matrix.

So what is the advertised contrast of this Phillips. I thought I saw 1100:1. That article said that while IPS has better viewing angles, it does have inherently lower contrast. It seems like the samsungs with there PVA are up at 2000-3000:1.

One more thing, I don't think anyone ever said for sure that the phillips is using the older flourescent backlighting that does not provide as much available color. Almost all the other new 1080 sets have the expanded backlight spectrum, be it Sharps 4/5 wavelenght, Samsungs Wide Color Gamut, or Toshibas Color Burst. The LG does not have this feature on the Lb5d series. Anyone know why the Phillips and LG have stuck with the traditional backlight. Also, anyone know how much does this actually matter for PQ. It seems to me it would be a significant improvement if all other variable are equal.
post #53 of 6891
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Originally Posted by Philips TV View Post

I don't see that model pictured on Amazon. Can you post the link?

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post #54 of 6891
I have a Westinghouse LVM-37W3 that's starting to experience persistent image issues (Burn-in is physically impossible for an LCD, but this comes close... Crystals not returning to their neutral state, even after leaving the monitor on solid white, grey and black for 48 hours each). Thankfully, there's no Westinghouse certified tech in my area, so BB is offering me a hassle-free store credit.

This Philips comes close to what I initially paid for the WH, so I can almost do a clean swap. It seems to be superior in every way, but I have a few questions, mostly for Philips TV.

After pulling up as much information as I could on this panel and calling the Philips customer assistance line, I have some unanswered inquiries:

1.) Is this a 6 or 8-bit panel (I.e.: 16.2m colours dithered to 16.7m or true 16.7)
2.) How's the banding?
3.) What percent of the NTSC colour gamut does it display?
4.) Will it take 100% of a 1920x1080x60 signal from a PC via DVI-HDMI converter cable?

Thanks in advance!
post #55 of 6891
well i hooked my ps3 tonight thru hdmi1 and at set it to output 1080p. tried playing grand turismo hd. (1080p) game and when it switch to the game. i got the blue screen with un supported video format. after i reset the ps3 load it up and tried it agian and it worked. I played oblivion for 20mins and decided to watch a bluray.(departed)
when i put the disk and played it. it didit agian. bluscreen and it said un supported video format. switch the source to hdmi two and went back to hdmi 1(where the ps3 is connected) and it decided to worked. it seems to me that its getting stuck when its switch signal from 720p to 1080p ever so often.

why is it that when i watch bluray. the screen is not fill up. i have black bars. i tried switching the format and it still there. automatic, widescreen and hd and its still there.
post #56 of 6891
I just recently purchased the Phillips 42PFL7432D/37 and I love it. I also own the LG 42LB5D. Both TV sets are excellent but I give the edge to the Phillips which was cheaper (by a good margin). I also own the LG 42LB1DRA which is my opinion is the best of the bunch. I say this because I love the cable card/ built in DVR option. With limited opportunities to fully use the 1080p, the 42LB1 would be by first choice if I were to buy just one. I too wasn't a big fan of the ambilight option until I purchased this tv. It makes watching TV that much more enjoyable. The only complaint (if you call it that) is the issue some people have mentioned about the "unsupported format" blue screen that appeared. You can solve this by making sure you have the product on and plugged into the TV the first time you hook it up. You can go back and correct this if you didn't do it initially by unplugging the tv and then turning the (dvd...etc) on followed by plugging in the tv and then turning on the power. The color, image and pixel display is just perfect. I did a side by side comparison with all three and I give it a slight edge. All are great and i can't really complain about any. I previously had a sharp plasma (sold because I wasn't happy with it) and i wouldn't by another unless it was the "Elite" for a lot of green. I wish the phillip's came with a cable card option because the internal bus can process the signal better then any HDMI connection. If you are on the fence about this tv, don't be. You can not go wrong. Another awesome ability of this TV is the option to upgrade the TV software code with the USB connection. This is a must after first purchasing the TV. They made some improvements already that you should take advantage of. You simply download the code to a USB thumb drive and plug it into the TV. Loading it is a shape. Also using the thumb drive to view images is a snap and they look fantastic. It really is a top of the line computer monitor. I attached my PC to all three and the Phillip's wins hands down, 1920x1080 makes a big difference over the 1080i (1366x768). Let me know if you have any questions and I'll help answer them to the best of my ability.
post #57 of 6891
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Originally Posted by BIGJOHNB20 View Post

One more thing, I don't think anyone ever said for sure that the phillips is using the older flourescent backlighting that does not provide as much available color. Almost all the other new 1080 sets have the expanded backlight spectrum, be it Sharps 4/5 wavelenght, Samsungs Wide Color Gamut, or Toshibas Color Burst. The LG does not have this feature on the Lb5d series. Anyone know why the Phillips and LG have stuck with the traditional backlight. Also, anyone know how much does this actually matter for PQ. It seems to me it would be a significant improvement if all other variable are equal.

I'm not sure if I know the answer ... costs and marketing hype. LED backlight is costly, and all those fancy names like "WCG" could be pure marketing hypes - I've seen reports in magazines and the color gammat of Sony XBR in wide color mode is still short of HDTV standard like other panels w/o this so-called WCG "technology".

post #58 of 6891
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Originally Posted by Noles0522 View Post

If you are on the fence about this tv, don't be. You can not go wrong.

You can ... if you want 120Hz, ambilight on 4 sides ...
post #59 of 6891
I am so excited. I was looking for an alternative to the Sharp LC-37D62U and I think I found it in the non-ambilight version of this 42" tv. I am so excited to see it in the stores. Keep the updates coming!!!
post #60 of 6891
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Originally Posted by ironchef25 View Post

well i hooked my ps3 tonight thru hdmi1 and at set it to output 1080p. tried playing grand turismo hd. (1080p) game and when it switch to the game. i got the blue screen with un supported video format. after i reset the ps3 load it up and tried it agian and it worked. I played oblivion for 20mins and decided to watch a bluray.(departed)
when i put the disk and played it. it didit agian. bluscreen and it said un supported video format. switch the source to hdmi two and went back to hdmi 1(where the ps3 is connected) and it decided to worked. it seems to me that its getting stuck when its switch signal from 720p to 1080p ever so often.

why is it that when i watch bluray. the screen is not fill up. i have black bars. i tried switching the format and it still there. automatic, widescreen and hd and its still there.

sounds like there's an HDCP handshake issue w/ the set and the PS3. the Samsungs also have this problem and haven't found a concrete solution yet.

is the problem similar to the one in the video here?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4212508.html

or is it something different?
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