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post #331 of 6891
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Originally Posted by sharpbank6282 View Post

I got a 7422 and the remote control is black. The control is functional but that is it. Personally, I like the one from Samsung more.

I have it for about a week and I like it. Except that I noticed "ghost" in basketball game in SD. Also, "ghost" or something like that inside and around white characters in both SD and HD. I do not know if this is normal. It does not bother me much if I sit at least 7-8 ft away.


when watching HD sports try displaying at 720p instead of 1080i if you could, my experience is that, that eliminates ghosting to an extent. Had that same problem last year during football season, of course it wasnt with the Philips tv that you all are talking about but it was a lcd and when I switched to 720 all the ghosting I spotted was no longer there. Hope that helps
post #332 of 6891
Hello Philips TV,

First off I'd like to say I appreciate your efforts in trying to help all of us here whether it be current owners/potential owners/just curious. EVERY ELECTRONIC's COMPANY SHOULD HAVE A PERSON LIKE YOU ON THESE FORUMS!!!

ok so now on to my question. I am in the market for a 52" lcd I understand that philips has a 52 model (52PFL7432) unfortunately I read that this model will only have ambient 2 channel. My question is that will Philips come out with a 52" model that has ambient surround like the 42 PFL9832 model? If so can you give any insight on when and specs. If not can you give me specs and release date for the current 52" PFL7432. All my surfing has yeilded little results for this particular model.

Thanks

P.S. I have noticed that in all of Philips new 1080 models there is no mention of PIP (picture in picture) So I'm assuming its not gonna be availble. My question is that, is it possible to add this feature through a firmware upgrade if enough people request it or is hardware need to enable this feature? THANKS AGAIN
post #333 of 6891
Model : 42PFL7422D/37
Software : Q5310-0.39.9.0 built 30/03/07 (TV 520 R1)
Cable box : MOXI something-or-other

1. I have the "humming" when the TV is off. While on there is no noise. It is coming from the back of the TV, heard most prominently from the vent at the top. When turned off, the TV is quiet for a few moments and then I hear a relay click and the humming begins. It never goes away until the TV is turned on again.

2. I got really cheap cables from Blue Jeans Cable (do a google search) . They are made to order by length, etc.

3. I hear popping when using the digital audio in and out. Cable box -> S/PDIF -> TV -> S/PDIF -> Receiver experiences little pops in the audio. Cable box -> RCA x 2 -> TV -> S/PDIF -> Receiver has no audio artifacts. It could be either the cable box's output or the TV's input. Anyone have a similar problem?

4. This version of software seems to have problems with DVI-D to HDMI from Cable Box -> TV. It occasionally drops signal and recaptures.

5. I have been unable to update the software so far. I can get the TV to boot into the update screen by using the "local" update but since the only revised software is for the 7432, it won't install on my 7422. Am I doing something wrong?

Lets keep this discussion going! It's been a valuable cache of knowledge for me.

-D
post #334 of 6891
I get my HD from a basic service of Comcast. Straight from the cable, no boxes. Can you tell me how I can switch from 1080i to 720p? Thanks
post #335 of 6891
Philips TV

Well I pulled the trigger on a 7432 yesterday and so far I am very impressed with the PQ so far. Now here comes the bad.
I am having terrible sync problems from a PC. I constantly get (unsupported video format) when trying to boot. If I mess around long enough I can finally get it running.
I am running with Nvidia 7600 GT cards and never had this problem before.

I also had a problem with the ps3 running and then shifting the screen over to the right about 3inches and wrapping the screen from the right to the left. This affected all ports so I had to pull the plug on the tv to clear.

I sure hope Philips fixes these problems because I really like this TV. I returned a Samsung 4061 to BB yesterday (because of sync problems)and I think this tv might have more wow factor than that one did.

Who would have thought from Philips!

Revision: Came home after a couple of hours and the TV lost sync with the pc. So I went through the whole ritual trying to get it to sync when I remembered yesterday not getting it to recognize the PC until I started up my PS3. So, I powered up the PS3 and then the pc booted up without issue. Is there a connection here?
post #336 of 6891
So I guess both versions (ambilight and non-ambilight models) have this strange whining sound? I know a few users have reported not having it but it seems quite a few do. I wonder if that can be fixed in a firmware update?
post #337 of 6891
i'm pretty interested in the 52PFL7432D, but I haven't been able to find anything on the larger sized model.

I'm interested in comparing the philips 52 with the new samsung 5265 model.

Do these LED Philips have a glossy (glare) screen?
post #338 of 6891
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

So I guess both versions (ambilight and non-ambilight models) have this strange whining sound? I know a few users have reported not having it but it seems quite a few do. I wonder if that can be fixed in a firmware update?

Alright. I've pulled the trigger on a warranty service call, so hopefully I'll know today or tomorrow what (if anything) can be done about the whining sound when the unit is off. I'll report what I find out.

Bob
post #339 of 6891
I originally looked at the glossy Samsung and didn't like the glossy high-glare screen on it. I think that they do this to trick the eye to perceive it as better contrast. At the store where I saw it, it also had a lot of reflection. The 42" Philips does not have this.
post #340 of 6891
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Originally Posted by High&Def View Post

I originally looked at the Samsung and didn't like the glossy high-glare screen on it. I think that they do this to trick the eye to perceive it as better contrast. At the store where I saw it, it also had a lot of reflection. The 42" Philips does not have this.

Sweet deal, I am this close to pulling the trigger on the samsung 4661 (non-glare model) but if i can get the philips LED 52" for a few hundred $ more, I may wait and see how they both look at the store once the philips 52 comes out!!
post #341 of 6891
I know we all want to get our issues corrected, but I think we should also point out that the pros definitely outweigh the cons on this TV. I've had the Westy and the non-glossy Sammy 1080p sets and was not happy with any of the two because of their numerous issues (too many to post here). I really like the PQ on this set. HD through DirecTV or OTA is awesome. (Watched Planet Earth on DiscoveryHD last weekend and it was spectacular). The biggest issue that I see that I have is the HDMI handshake issue which I hope to finally see resolved tomorrow with the new f/w release. At this point, I have read about all the rest and have seen a couple of sets myself and I will definitely keep this one and hope all these issues get resolved through f/w upgrades. We all know that there aren't many manufacturers who listen to their customers and try to correct issues as Philips has been doing through PhilipsTV and Daveinga. I thank both of those guys for their help in working to make this the perfect set. There also aren't too many other sets that you can upgrade the F/w on. (I know you could on the Sammy, is there any other?)
post #342 of 6891
I got the 42PFL7432 this past Saturday. Noticed the Whine right away. It's quite a high frequency, something in the 15KHz, or higher, range. What course of action have people taken on this? Will it require a service call? Has anyone gotten any new information from Philips?

Edit:

Thats what happens when I table my post for 2 hours, west43rd, let us know what you find out.
post #343 of 6891
yesterday there was a software patch for the ps3 1.80.. decided to upgrade it cause now the ps3 can upscale dvds and ps1/2 games. in the br/dvd setting there was a setting to output signal 1080p 24hz. (automatic/off) i decided to change it to automatic. well. when i did that. i pop in kingdom of heaven. notice a very juttery effect. like the scene would would stop and go.. i remember reading back in this thread about 3:2 pull down(page4&5)..
change the setting agian in my ps3 to off instead of automatic and tried to play the movie agian and it seems smooth..

is what im expereincing this 3:2 pulldown mention before?
also. if most 1080p tv has this 3:2 pull down. why would someone use 1080p 24hz?
post #344 of 6891
I have a non-ambient light model and I have not noticed any noise coming from the TV when it is off.
post #345 of 6891
The time has come folks... Even though the SW is not posted yet, Philips TV and I have a released copy. It is supposed to hit the support website tonight in a daily update, but I want to distribute to those of you having issues, especially HDMI connectivity issues. This should address the problems you are having.

Please PM me your email address and I will send a link to the download. The email will be from yousendit.com. The file too big to email so I am using a 3rd party FTP server. I am using a free service so I will not be able to send to everyone. There is a limit to the amount of downloads so once that limit has been reached that will be it. I would like to give some priority to those who have been active on these boards.

If you are currently not having any issues or can wait another day or so please do not PM me. Sending these out is going to be a manual process and I don't want to spend extra time sending out to those who don't need it.

The email address indicated on the email that we send you is only there for the distribution of the SW. daveinga_philipsTV@yahoo.com is a phantom email that will not be monitored, because neither I nor Philips TV is crazy enough to let our real email out there. Any emails sent to that address will not be read.

One final word. The reason we never wanted to send out beta versions of SW is because in the past we have sent to one person and then that SW is suddenly posted all over the internet. We ask you to please not re-distribute to others especially on the internet. We will find it. It if happens we can all rest assured that early distribution of SW before it hits the official site will never happen again.

Good luck guys... (and gals).
post #346 of 6891
I've had my 42PFL7432D for about a week now, and couldn't be happier.

After reading these forums, the first thing that was done was to update the firmware.

Following that, I connected my PC via DVI - HDMI cable, set it to 'High-Resolution' and turned off all of the auto-correcting options (dynamic contrast, etc...).

I still don't have it exactly as I would like (My previous Westy seemed to handle PC output better, but it was only a glorified monitor), but I'm sure with some more tweaking and maybe a firmware update or two everything should be displaying properly.

However, I'm not having any of the issues that have been described in this thread with the image not taking up the whole screen. I also have had no issue with the display picking up signal from my PC; It will display the BIOS screen, POST screens and the Windows boot screen. The only time it loses signal is when it switches between resolutions, and that's only for a half-second.

My XBOX 360 and PS2 are both connected via component, both are recognized without issue. The 360 even displays as a 1080p source.

Maybe I just got lucky with mine, as I don't have the buzzing either. Could it be the manufacture date? Mine is minty-fresh:




Here's my setup as it stands now:

post #347 of 6891
I see clouding problem in the Philips 7422. I took this picture when the TV was searching for a channel.

Philips clouding picture:


Sharp 46d92u clouding picture:
post #348 of 6891
BTW, any of you guys from the Atlanta area? If you guys dont mind, include your location in your profile. If you are from Atlanta I would be very interested in seeing your issues first hand.
post #349 of 6891
daveinga,

Will the software release be updated for 7422, also? I'm in need of an update and the TV wouldn't let me upgrade using the 7432 from the site (the 5/8/2007 stuff).
post #350 of 6891
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Originally Posted by High&Def View Post

I know we all want to get our issues corrected, but I think we should also point out that the pros definitely outweigh the cons on this TV.

Agreed and point well noted. This TV is spectacular. I did a lot of homework and thought I had done well with a Sharp Aquos. But now that set is going back. This Philips looks as good as a Sony LCD IMHO and that's saying something. Blacks are incredible, brightness is unimaginable (I'm at half way on the brightness and it's as bright as the Sharp at full blast), images are rich and deep. The only negative thing I've found with the HD is that it's too good for the lousy signal my local cable provider is giving me. (It's picking up all the noise in the signal on the poorer quality channels.)

This is a must-buy.

Bob
post #351 of 6891
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Originally Posted by juugcatm View Post

daveinga,

Will the software release be updated for 7422, also? I'm in need of an update and the TV wouldn't let me upgrade using the 7432 from the site (the 5/8/2007 stuff).

Sorry, should have posted this earlier

Models supported

42PFL7432D/37
47PFL7432D/37
42PFL7422D/37
42PFL7422D/37
post #352 of 6891
I went to Costco in Santa Barbara area that had 4 or 5 units in the TV section yesterday (5/23).

However, there was no display model setup, so I was not able to see the picture quality compared to Sony (both 40" 720p and 46" 1080p), Sharp (46" 1080p), Vizio (40" or 47" 1080p), and other LCD models sitting next to it. I'm not sure if and when Costco will be setting it up.

Will someone please take the trouble to post some pictures of the screen?

Has anyone noticed banding or clouding (other than Pikoo)?

I am considering the new LG 42LB5D unit or Samsung 4061F. If anyone can share his/her "objective" opinion of this Philips unit compared to its peers would also be welcome.

Of course, the price is a significant factor since this Philips model is considerably less than the ones I have listed. Having said that, can anyone really say the other competing models offer that much more for the money?

Thanks in advance.
post #353 of 6891
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Originally Posted by ErrantHero View Post

Of course, the price is a significant factor since this Philips model is considerably less than the ones I have listed. Having said that, can anyone really say the other competing models offer that much more for the money?

They are offering nothing more for the money. If you want an objective opinion on this set, all you have to do is read this thread from the beginning. Although we are all experiencing some issues, (I think I can speak for most if not all of us), the pros definitely outweigh the cons. Everyone is working together with our Philips insiders (PhilipsTV and daveinga) to get all the issues resolved. These guys have been extremely patient with everyone and as you can see by daveinga's post above, they are working hard to make us all happy customers. As I've posted above, I had the Sammy and Westy. The Westy was comparatively priced to the Philips but was a far inferior product. The Sammy was almost twice as much as the Philips and I returned that set because of the issues that I had with it and finally picked up the Philips. I am extremely happy with this set and hope to get all of the issues resolved soon.
post #354 of 6891
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Originally Posted by High&Def View Post

They are offering nothing more for the money. If you want an objective opinion on this set, all you have to do is read this thread from the beginning. Although we are all experiencing some issues, (I think I can speak for most if not all of us), the pros definitely outweigh the cons. Everyone is working together with our Philips insiders (PhilipsTV and daveinga) to get all the issues resolved. These guys have been extremely patient with everyone and as you can see by daveinga's post above, they are working hard to make us all happy customers. As I've posted above, I had the Sammy and Westy. The Westy was comparatively priced to the Philips but was a far inferior product. The Sammy was almost twice as much as the Philips and I returned that set because of the issues that I had with it and finally picked up the Philips. I am extremely happy with this set and hope to get all of the issues resolved soon.

I should have mentioned that I did read this thread from start to finish.

Although this model is generally viewed positively, except for a few complaints, it is also fairly true with both LG and Samsung -- that they are "generally" viewed positively -- hence my post.

Since LG and Philips use the same panels for their respective name brands, I was curious to read others' opinion. CNet recently posted a review of the 47" LG LB5D model and it was good for a non-top tier brand (per CNet: Samsung, Sony, and Sharp would be considered top tier).

As I've said to some other people before, the decision should depend solely on whether the individual likes the picture quality. Of course, it's easier said than done when it involves thousands of dollars (although Philips model is really a great value for the money).
post #355 of 6891
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Originally Posted by High&Def View Post

They are offering nothing more for the money. If you want an objective opinion on this set, all you have to do is read this thread from the beginning. Although we are all experiencing some issues, (I think I can speak for most if not all of us), the pros definitely outweigh the cons. Everyone is working together with our Philips insiders (PhilipsTV and daveinga) to get all the issues resolved. These guys have been extremely patient with everyone and as you can see by daveinga's post above, they are working hard to make us all happy customers. As I've posted above, I had the Sammy and Westy. The Westy was comparatively priced to the Philips but was a far inferior product. The Sammy was almost twice as much as the Philips and I returned that set because of the issues that I had with it and finally picked up the Philips. I am extremely happy with this set and hope to get all of the issues resolved soon.


I agree with you totally. Even though I am bringing my set back tomorrow to BB, I am planning to go right to Costco afterwards and pick up the non-ambilight model (I really don't need ambilight because the tv is inside a cabinet). I really hope the whining/buzzing sound gets fixed though as I don't want to return another set.
post #356 of 6891
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Originally Posted by ErrantHero View Post

Of course, the price is a significant factor since this Philips model is considerably less than the ones I have listed. Having said that, can anyone really say the other competing models offer that much more for the money?

I don't like the piano black finish. Luckily, the border is not why I bought the TV.

Seriously, though, this is truly an outstanding TV. That's why we are all taking so much time and effort to get the small issues fixed. Frankly, if it wasn't so fantastic I would have returned the thing two days ago.

Best value out there.

Bob
post #357 of 6891
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Originally Posted by west43rd View Post

I don't like the piano black finish. Luckily, the border is not why I bought the TV.

Seriously, though, this is truly an outstanding TV. That's why we are all taking so much time and effort to get the small issues fixed. Frankly, if it wasn't so fantastic I would have returned the thing two days ago.

Best value out there.

Bob

I have to agree completely. I have had so many LCD tv's in the last 1 1/2 months that I am about to be banned from CC. This TV has given me that WOW factor I had been looking for.
post #358 of 6891
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Originally Posted by Knightwulf View Post

I've had my 42PFL7432D for about a week now, and couldn't be happier.

After reading these forums, the first thing that was done was to update the firmware.

Following that, I connected my PC via DVI - HDMI cable, set it to 'High-Resolution' and turned off all of the auto-correcting options (dynamic contrast, etc...).

I still don't have it exactly as I would like (My previous Westy seemed to handle PC output better, but it was only a glorified monitor), but I'm sure with some more tweaking and maybe a firmware update or two everything should be displaying properly.

However, I'm not having any of the issues that have been described in this thread with the image not taking up the whole screen. I also have had no issue with the display picking up signal from my PC; It will display the BIOS screen, POST screens and the Windows boot screen. The only time it loses signal is when it switches between resolutions, and that's only for a half-second.

My XBOX 360 and PS2 are both connected via component, both are recognized without issue. The 360 even displays as a 1080p source.

Maybe I just got lucky with mine, as I don't have the buzzing either. Could it be the manufacture date? Mine is minty-fresh:


Here's my setup as it stands now:

Knightwulf,

I'm glad that atleast someone tested the PC connectivity (other than pikoo) and that you donot have the problem which I have experienced. Did you tested on all following three resoultions:

1920x1080 at 60Hz
1920x1080 at 30 Hz
1920x1080 at 24 Hz

What Video card and OS you are testing it on.

TIA

roop
post #359 of 6891
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Originally Posted by roopG View Post

Knightwulf,

I'm glad that atleast someone tested the PC connectivity (other than pikoo) and that you donot have the problem which I have experienced. Did you tested on all following three resoultions:

1920x1080 at 60Hz
1920x1080 at 30 Hz
1920x1080 at 24 Hz

What Video card and OS you are testing it on.

TIA

roop


I've only tested it at 60hz, I can certainly try the others when I get home from work.

It's currently connected to a BFG GeForce 8800GTX on XP SP2.

Vista, though pretty, just isn't mature enough for my needs yet. Too many driver incompatibilities... Though, I think the DX10 eyecandy is going to sway me over to the dark side before I'm ready...
post #360 of 6891
i just wanted to say that i also can hear a high pitched noise coming from the back of the display, as far as i know, only when it is off, and it only becomes audible when you come within a foot of the display...otherwise this is an awesome LCD, great features, great price...

steven
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