The official SeymourAV center stage screen thread! - Page 45

Originally Posted by StevenC56

The screen is up and it's awesome. Chris Seymour is a class act. We highly recommend Seymour AV. If you are considering a less expensive AT screen from another company, do yourself a favor and spend a little extra to buy one from Seymour AV. It's a high quality product that is a much better value taking all things into consideration. In this case, you do get what you pay for.

Originally Posted by Glenn Baumann

Steven,

Congrats on the new screen!

I am also possibly going with a Seymour AT screen and I would like to know your impressions of screen weave visibility from your viewing distances?

I believe in one of your prior post's that your viewing distances were 7.5 ft for the 1st row and 12.5 ft for your second row, is that correct?

Any other subjective experiences that you can touch on about your screen would be most welcome!


...Glenn

Originally Posted by Gary Lightfoot

You usually need to be closer than a 60 degree viewing angle before you have to move your head to see the edges of the screen - that's around a 2 x image height distance or closer.

Originally Posted by Billybobjimbob

Hi, anyone here ordered a custom sized seymour screen? Ive emailed Chris and my plan is to have the viewing area 140 inches wide and the height of a 120 inch wide 16:9/1.78:1 screen.

This would allow me to watch scope movies 140 inches wide, with a width mask to cover the extra height

i wouldnt compromise on the 16:9 screen as i could go 120 inches wide with full height, but would need two vertical masks to cover the extra width.

Anyone any thoughts on my method? Im also utilising an anamorphic lens

Originally Posted by Billybobjimbob

Hi, anyone here ordered a custom sized seymour screen? Ive emailed Chris and my plan is to have the viewing area 140 inches wide and the height of a 120 inch wide 16:9/1.78:1 screen.

This would allow me to watch scope movies 140 inches wide, with a width mask to cover the extra height

i wouldnt compromise on the 16:9 screen as i could go 120 inches wide with full height, but would need two vertical masks to cover the extra width.

Anyone any thoughts on my method? Im also utilising an anamorphic lens

Originally Posted by StevenC56

The screen is up and it's awesome. Chris Seymour is a class act. We highly recommend Seymour AV. If you are considering a less expensive AT screen from another company, do yourself a favor and spend a little extra to buy one from Seymour AV. It's a high quality product that is a much better value taking all things into consideration. In this case, you do get what you pay for.

Originally Posted by NinjaofDoom

I've yet to hear anyone else say this. Awesome though. I've been thinking I am somehow crazy lol.

I sit 10'6" back from a 140" wide (152diag) 2.40:1 screen. I can see both sides of the screen easily by moving my eyes only. Amazing theater experience . Everything I read tells me that is very wrong. I'm using an Epson 8500UB on an eggshell wall (so the image is actually an even larger 16:9) and in ECO mode. Cant wait to see it on an AT screen.

Originally Posted by Billybobjimbob

Hi, anyone here ordered a custom sized seymour screen? Ive emailed Chris and my plan is to have the viewing area 140 inches wide and the height of a 120 inch wide 16:9/1.78:1 screen.

This would allow me to watch scope movies 140 inches wide, with a width mask to cover the extra height

i wouldnt compromise on the 16:9 screen as i could go 120 inches wide with full height, but would need two vertical masks to cover the extra width.

Anyone any thoughts on my method? Im also utilising an anamorphic lens

Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder

Thought about it but decided that two way masking was much easier then 3 way. My screen is about exactly the say width as your. I think that my viewable height ended up 57" tall, that gives me 102" at 16:9 and 137" at 2.40 (my actuall screen is 144" wide). Personaly I think the 16:9 size is great and the 2.40 awsome, glad I didn't bother trying to do what you are.

Originally Posted by sdlehman

I just bought that exact size and it is beautiful! I also bought the masking panels and they work great. Chris is great to work with. Screen came very fast. I am lighting it up with a JVC HD 250.

Stace

Originally Posted by mlbrand

If you don't mind extra masking and you want your 16:9 movies to be really big, then what you are doing is fine. Have you ever considered a CIH setup? If not, read on.

I have a 2.35 ratio 125" diagonal Seymour AT electric screen setup, and utilize an anamorphic lens as well. I use the more common CIH (constant image height) method of going back and forth between "scope" and 16:9 material. As the CIH name implies, the height of my movies always stays the same, 49" in my case. To go to a 16:9 ratio movie I switch my video scaler to normal (not expanding the image higher), and move my anamorphic lens back to normal (not stretching the image wider). With the 49" image height my 16:9 movies are 100" diagonal. With this method, there is no need for masking on the top or bottom of any movie format. I do have blank screen exposed on the sides when watching a 16:9 ratio movie or TV that could be masked, but it doesn't bother me unmasked, as my room is dark enough. I personally like having my "scope" movies larger than my 16:9 movies, as it maximizes their impact, and by having my image height constant, I have all formats of movies centered vertically at the optimum viewing height for my room.

I just wanted to be sure you have considered or are familiar with the pro's and con's of a CIH setup. If not go to this part of the AVS forum and they will tell you all you need to know. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=117 I do wonder if you are you planning on "stretching" your "scope" movies taller with a separate scaler, or projector setting? If not you will lose some projector light output for scope movies.

Originally Posted by Gary Lightfoot

Hi,

Thanks for pointing that out - can't beat real world testing of stuff like that and I've just tried it myself and found you're absolutely correct and not crazy I was going on a Dolby labs white paper which mentions a binocular field of view of 60 degrees:

Can't beat those kinds of seating distances for immersion, (but they might be a bit tiresome if it's a taller 16:9 or IMAX screen and the vertical viewi8ng angle is greater than 15 degrees).

Gary

Originally Posted by Billybobjimbob

Its nice to have thx, dolby or other guidelines-but to me they are that. Their intent is good, but i like letting my own eyes and ears judge. Gary often says when using cih if non scope looks a bit small-pull the seating forward! Unfortunately that isnt always practicable. Due to space constraints and the technical ability of the pj, ciw isnt possible in my room, if i however had the room, then id happily keep an open mind and try that route. As it stands, i think this is my best opportunity to enjoy both scope and non scope material.

Asif

Originally Posted by Billybobjimbob

Hi mlbrand,

thankyou for taking the time to post such a detailed reply, its much appreciated. I actually had a cih setup for the last 14 months or so. Well i had a screenline galieleo screen which houses two screens in one casing for cih. One screen is scope the other is the same height but a true 16:9.

like most others in these forums,I love my movie watching. But i have to say i think at home, the impact utilising cih with non scope material, can be decreased. Something like avatar in scope would be awsome, but i found with the cih, it wasnt as engrossing-and that was with a 2.5m wide screen. Im sure the extra half a metre width and more so the height will have more of an impact( ive tried projecting onto the wall and it looks ace).

Its nice to have thx, dolby or other guidelines-but to me they are that. Their intent is good, but i like letting my own eyes and ears judge. Gary often says when using cih if non scope looks a bit small-pull the seating forward! Unfortunately that isnt always practicable. Due to space constraints and the technical ability of the pj, ciw isnt possible in my room, if i however had the room, then id happily keep an open mind and try that route. As it stands, i think this is my best opportunity to enjoy both scope and non scope material.

Asif

Originally Posted by doublewing11

Looking at mating the Seymour XD with the Carada CIH masking..................trying to figure out how to best configure the two products from two different manufacturers.

Originally Posted by chriscmore

You can specify with us any custom image/inside frame dimension to the 0.1" resolution. So, I'd recommend calling David and Rex and specing out the masking system first to what you want. Then, they'll tell you what the image dimensions need to be for us.

Cheers,
Chris

Originally Posted by SteveHorn

A few quick thoughts:
Are you interested in a "scope" (2.35 or equiv.) aspect ratio (AR)? What are your viewing habits (film, HDTV, sports...?). A 'scope screen, especially an acoustic transparent (AT) scope screen, adds tremendously to the "movie theatre experience". Your room size would seem to allow for a wider viewing angle.

Along that line of thought, check your planned projector's zoom capabilities. Do some research at projectorcentral.com and the calculator there to see if your chosen PJ can light up a screen at the throw distance you plan, versus the size and AR of the screen.

You should factor in the light control in your room: Bat cave, or a room with windows and daylight viewing habits.

All of the above issues are not specific to Seymour screens; you should resolve these questions before jumping into any screen/projector combination. That said, Seymour screens are an excellent value and a high quality product with first class customer support.

Originally Posted by chriscmore

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Finally, the safest bet is to hang a sheet and throw a temporary image with the new projector. Nothing beats a few hours of experience, and a big advantage of AT screens is that you can scale your audio and video independently for best practice all around.Chris