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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post

I think the latest is 1" JM linacoustic, 4-6mil plastic, 1" JM linacoustic
For the corners, triangle cut pieces of OC70x or an equivalent product...which products I'm not sure but I am researching since I can't find OC70x locally

Thanks for this, would this just cover behind each speaker or the whole front wall?
post #1742 of 2609
newscreen3.JPG 435k .JPG file

Well it's up and I've got the WOW factor back, this thing is huge and the picture quality, that large, is still quite good. 174" 3D is much better smile.gif and the installation was a breeze. I now have to purchase a new camera that has a wide angle lens to post more picks, this is just my iphone 4s.

John
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Any of you guys using a curved Seymour screen.....

Did you have any challenges hanging it on the supplied brackets? My 120" wide 2.40:1 won't stay on when I try to hang it. Each time I get one side on and move over to the other side to hang that one, the first one pops off. Tried it about 5 times with 3 people trying to get it done. It seems to pivot around the center of the screen such that the curve of the frame member doesn't really match the curve set-up by the hanger bracket. Anyone have an idea?
post #1744 of 2609
Chris C answered my email. He gave me a recco for a solution. I will try it and report back.
post #1745 of 2609
Great looking! Are you going to mask the sides?
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Hi,

I have a 145" diagonal CA (constant area) Center Stage XD DIY screen. I am sitting 12' back and I like it a lot....for 2D. I can see the weave pattern when I use my PC with white screens if I look for it, but typically don't see any weave in movie content unless the image has a bunch of white clouds or such. It is not perfect, but acceptable. I recently bought a 3D PJ and I find that the 3D is very distracting to watch because the weave can be see as a bunch of haze at the depth of the screen. This makes my eyes strain a lot since they are trying to focus on either behind the screen or in front of the screen and also at the "haze". I haven't watched any 3D for months because of it and it's a bit disappointing since I spent a bit extra to get 3D. There is tilt on the weave (about 10-12 degrees) and the PJ is an Epson 5010.

I bought the material in Nov 2010. I don't think the material has changed to a tighter weave, has it? Now, I'm considering changing screen fabrics, but not sure if what I'm experiencing is "normal", if I have made some error or if my eyes are especially good/sensitive.

Thanks for any help you can give!

Andreas
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Hi Andreas,

I have the same problem with my XD Screen. 130"scope screen, seating distance is 11,5 feet. Every now and then you can see the diagonal weave wich is indeed a little distracting. My screen is from August 2011. So I guess there is no tighter weave available...
post #1748 of 2609
The enlightor 4K is a tighter weave and better than the XD. You can be a lot closer before you notice the texture. A little more pricey.
post #1749 of 2609
Just installed my 174" and sit 14' back, the weave is not a problem for me, I am very pleased with this screen. The 4k is quite a bit more expensive than the XD material.
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Yea, I agree with studly, it is quite a bit more expensive for the 4K.

I just got my material in May and sit 12' from a 138" XD screen. I've only watched movies and TV on it and don't notice the weave. I've asked others if they have too, and nobody has yet. Of course, the size of the screen doesn't directly impact one's ability to see or not see the weave, but I thought I would mention the size.
post #1751 of 2609
I think I only see the weave pattern when I am about 9-10ft away. At 12, I could not say I see it...
post #1752 of 2609
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Are you cropping the sides of the image when watching scope? How are you constant height with a 2.125:1 aspect ratio screen?

Typo on my part - Constant Image Area, not Height. No, I don't crop the sides, I have black bars on the top and bottom for cinemascope, on the sides for 16:9 - doesn't bother me yet, if/when it does, I'll invest in masking.
post #1753 of 2609
I was sitting about 15' back and had no problems. 12' back and 2d is fine, but not perfect. 3d at 12' is a problem though.

Can just the enlightor 4K fabric be bought? My screen is DIY.
post #1754 of 2609
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Originally Posted by BobL View Post

The enlightor 4K is a tighter weave and better than the XD. You can be a lot closer before you notice the texture. A little more pricey.

I don't know if I would agree it's better. I've compared both and although you can not see the weave on the 4k screen at closer distances (8-9ft or less) the overall image is a bit darker, image is less vibrant and there's less pop. The material is also much more delicate (almost like a sheer curtain). I preferred and went with the XD material for my VW1000. I'm sitting about 10ft away or so and I have no issue.
Edited by adidino - 6/22/12 at 12:53pm
post #1755 of 2609
It looks like it is an issue with XD more so with 3D at close range.
Studly, do you plan to mask your curve screen?
I concur with Adidino on his comparison.
Edited by Nedtsc - 6/22/12 at 1:11pm
post #1756 of 2609
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

I don't know if I would agree it's better. I've compared both and although you can not see the weave on the 4k screen at closer distances (8-9ft or less) the overall image is a bit darker, image is less vibrant and there's less pop. The material is also much more delicate (almost like a sheer curtain). I preferred and went with the XD material for my VW1000. I'm sitting about 10ft away or so and I have no issue.

Sounds very similar to some white spandex that I sampled when compared to the XD. I will have to compare it to a sample of the 4K to see if it is worth the price difference. The spandex was $35 for a 145"+ screen.
post #1757 of 2609
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Originally Posted by Nedtsc View Post

It looks like it is an issue with XD more so with 3D at close range.
Studly, do you plan to mask your curve screen?
I concur with Adidino on his comparison.

Nedtsc I have no plans to mask my screen.

John
post #1758 of 2609
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

I don't know if I would agree it's better. I've compared both and although you can not see the weave on the 4k screen at closer distances (8-9ft or less) the overall image is a bit darker, image is less vibrant and there's less pop. The material is also much more delicate (almost like a sheer curtain). I preferred and went with the XD material for my VW1000. I'm sitting about 10ft away or so and I have no issue.

I have owned both. When the screen size is matched up nicely with the projector the image on EN4K is very, very good. With equal Foot Lamberts and a viewing distance of 11' or less, I would be surprised if anybody picked XD over EN4K. Placing a small sample of EN4K on your XD screen is going to give a big disadvantage to the EN4K, due to the lower gain of the EN4K. Of course with EN4K it is going to take more lumens to light up the same size screen compared to XD.
Edited by AV Science Sales 5 - 6/26/12 at 11:17am
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post #1759 of 2609
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

I have owned both. When the screen size is matched up nicely with the projector the image on EN4K is very, very good. With equal Foot Lamberts and a viewing distance of 11' or less, I would be surprised if anybody picked XD over EN4K. Placing a small sample of EN4K on your XD screen is going to give a big disadvantage to the EN4K, due to the lower gain of the EN4K. Of course with EN4K it is going to take more lumens to light up the same size screen compared to XD.

Agree with Mike

Projectors will get brighter over time thus I didn't mind getting the EN4K and giving up a good amount of gain. By the time I get my projector and screen unboxed we should have quad LED HID Fiber Optic Lightning Bolts technology so I'll be ready to upgrade cool.gif

Also went with a 16:9 because I could always switch to 2:40 or whatever the next common ratio is by getting smaller side frames.

One thing I am terrified with the EN4K is the screen getting dirty. I fear the day Mark Sanchez or Tim Tebow throw an interception in the Super Bowl that cause us to lose the game...I can see a cup of Wild Cherry Pepsi coming in contact with the screen.
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Hey guys,

I am getting ready to build my diy frame but I cannot recall what spacing is recommended from the grommets to the posts on the frame that the o-rings attach to. I ordered the Centerstage XD material with the grommets already installed. From the pictures on the website it looks like around 1.5 inches from the center of the grommets to the posts but I would rather not just make a guess.

Can someone help me out with this dimension?

Thanks.
post #1761 of 2609
I've tried a small sample of XD viewing 3D using JVC RS 45. No sign of pattern or weave at 10'. Will try a larger sample. The concern of course is the price otherwise EN4K is no brainer. It's about 3x if I recall right.
post #1762 of 2609
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Originally Posted by robfive View Post

Hey guys,
I am getting ready to build my diy frame but I cannot recall what spacing is recommended from the grommets to the posts on the frame that the o-rings attach to. I ordered the Centerstage XD material with the grommets already installed. From the pictures on the website it looks like around 1.5 inches from the center of the grommets to the posts but I would rather not just make a guess.
Can someone help me out with this dimension?
Thanks.

Robfive, if you have not already , is to PM or give Chris a call. Since he makes these I'm sure he'd give the exact distance.

Sorry this does not directly help you. My screen is already installed and is hard to take off and re-mount by myself , otherwise I'd measure for you.
post #1763 of 2609
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Originally Posted by robfive View Post

Hey guys,
I am getting ready to build my diy frame but I cannot recall what spacing is recommended from the grommets to the posts on the frame that the o-rings attach to. I ordered the Centerstage XD material with the grommets already installed. From the pictures on the website it looks like around 1.5 inches from the center of the grommets to the posts but I would rather not just make a guess.
Can someone help me out with this dimension?
Thanks.

I spoke with Chris this morning on the phone and he recommended starting with an 1.5" spacing from the grommet to the post (bolt, screw, whatever you are using) in the frame. He also suggested trying a couple on each end of the screen to see if the tension was appropriate before installing all of the posts in the frame.

I plan to build the frame on Wednesday and I'll report back how the spacing turned out.
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Pictures too!
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Do people upgrade existing fixed frame screens with seymour AT material?
I currently use 120" visual apex screen. Would I be able to refit it with centerstage XD?

Thank you
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is EN4K sold by SeymourAV? I could only find prices for the centerstage XD at http://seymourav.com/store.asp

is there any competition to Seymour AT material with similar price/performance ratio?

thank you
post #1767 of 2609
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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post


One thing I am terrified with the EN4K is the screen getting dirty. I fear the day Mark Sanchez or Tim Tebow throw an interception in the Super Bowl that cause us to lose the game...I can see a cup of Wild Cherry Pepsi coming in contact with the screen.

Tebow, yes..........................Sanchez, no! smile.gif
post #1768 of 2609
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Originally Posted by zheka View Post

is EN4K sold by SeymourAV? I could only find prices for the centerstage XD at http://seymourav.com/store.asp
is there any competition to Seymour AT material with similar price/performance ratio?
thank you

EN4K can be purchased from http://www.s-se.us/.

Edit.. Also forgot to mention that AVS carries EN4K line.
Edited by quack724 - 7/3/12 at 10:53am
post #1769 of 2609
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Originally Posted by quack724 View Post

EN4K can be purchased from http://www.s-se.us/.
Edit.. Also forgot to mention that AVS carries EN4K line.
Thank you. Do you know how much more expensive it is compared to the center stage material? I am having hard time finding any prices for EN4K
post #1770 of 2609
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Originally Posted by zheka View Post

Thank you. Do you know how much more expensive it is compared to the center stage material? I am having hard time finding any prices for EN4K

When I queried for myself, I think it was roughly 3x for 125 inch wide 2.37 AR. Not sure about 16:9 if that is what you are looking for.

Edit.. Sorry I just checked my actual paid for XD vs quoted EN4K and it was more like 2.5x . If you decide to get the black backing for the XD, there will be an incremental cost as well. My understanding is that the EN4K includes the black backing as part of the overall cost.
Edited by quack724 - 7/3/12 at 6:30pm
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