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post #1831 of 2609
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Originally Posted by Elix View Post

Where can I get a quote on a custom 4K material screen, Chris?

Sent you a PM.
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post #1832 of 2609
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Sent you a PM.
Thanks! But I failed to mention I'd be needing an international shipping. There's no other option for me, because where I live retailers ask 2x-3x of the retail price.
post #1833 of 2609
I'm looking to setup a JVC 4K projector and screen. I'm interested in the Seymour retractable screen. I'm looking at the CenterStage XD and the 4K. My main sitting position is 18 feet back so I don't think I will be able to see the pattern but there will be kids sitting as close as 8 feet. What I'm most concerned about is a Moire pattern. Has anyone see Moire' patterns on the screen. Any input would be appreciated.
post #1834 of 2609
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Originally Posted by mac_hs10 View Post

I know this is a Seymour forum but, how does the A4k from elite screen compare to this enlightor 4k from Seymour?

The Elite A4k screen I have isn't finished testing yet. It is a woven polyester PFR like Dazian's Celtic Cloth but not as color accurate. CCC used to be popular in the DIY forums. If you were doing a DIY screen and wanted this type of material, I'd do either CCC or some of the guys are experimenting with spandex over in the DIY forum. While CCC is better than the Elite material, the historical problems with CCC and this type of weave are that CCC's gain is .79 and the cross-pixel light contamination results in a 8% loss in ASNI contrast ratio. This means that the threads light up from within since they are uncoated, and the weave it thick enough that the lit threads contaminate nearby dark areas. In simple terms, this is easiest to see as a halo effect from white on black patterns and is easy to see.

I'll put together measurements and side-by-side screen shots, but you can get a lot better performance up or down the budget.

Cheers,
Chris
post #1835 of 2609
Steven -

For the retractable XD, I recommend testing a sample first to make sure that it's compatible at your image size(s). Even though we guarantee every screen, it's good to know the result before we make your screen. We can't do a tilted cut on the retractable XD, so moire is a possibility with those, altough exceedingly rare. It's impossible in our fixed frame XD screens, and in any construction of the S-SE 4K material it's also impossible because the 4K doesn't have any pattern.

Regarding texture, the 18' is beyond the general consensus around AVS users of ~11' for critical viewing with the XD although we do have many customers at 8'. For kids or overflow, 8' would be fine. The 4K of course has no minimum seating distance and is used in mastering facilities as close as 6' at a mixing desk.

Cheers,
Chris
post #1836 of 2609
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Originally Posted by chriscmore View Post

The Elite A4k screen I have isn't finished testing yet. It is a woven polyester PFR like Dazian's Celtic Cloth but not as color accurate. CCC used to be popular in the DIY forums. If you were doing a DIY screen and wanted this type of material, I'd do either CCC or some of the guys are experimenting with spandex over in the DIY forum. While CCC is better than the Elite material, the historical problems with CCC and this type of weave are that CCC's gain is .79 and the cross-pixel light contamination results in a 8% loss in ASNI contrast ratio. This means that the threads light up from within since they are uncoated, and the weave it thick enough that the lit threads contaminate nearby dark areas. In simple terms, this is easiest to see as a halo effect from white on black patterns and is easy to see.
I'll put together measurements and side-by-side screen shots, but you can get a lot better performance up or down the budget.
Cheers,
Chris

interesting.
A4K is supposed to be 1.1 gain.
is it close to what your measurements show, if you do not mind sharing this information?
post #1837 of 2609
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Originally Posted by zheka View Post

interesting.
A4K is supposed to be 1.1 gain.
is it close to what your measurements show, if you do not mind sharing this information?

Sure. I'm at Screen Excellence in the UK this week, but if I can stay caught up I should be able to get some progress on that next week.

Cheers,
Chris
post #1838 of 2609
Greetings All. I'm back in the game after a ten year absence and have ordered a CenterStage XD 110'' wide 2.37 fixed screen. I've seen a few AT screens and for me the XD was the best.
By the time it comes I'll be looking to upgrade my projector from a Sony G70 to a JVC X70 or X75.
Having seen the Sony 95es and JVC X70 on the XD I'm just counting the days to delivery and cinema heaven.
I got to thank Chris and co for making a great product at a great price. It makes the price of my Stewart screen seem like a self inflicted robbery.
post #1839 of 2609
Can panels be made for the Seymour-SE frame using the 4k material? Just wondering.................
post #1840 of 2609
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Can panels be made for the Seymour-SE frame using the 4k material? Just wondering.................

Yes, we have masking panel option for the S-SE Reference frame with the 4K material.

Cheers,
Chris
post #1841 of 2609
It is with mixed feeling that I now realized Seymour offered the masking option for the electric screen... When I got my screen like 6 months ago, there was no such option ..frown.gif Now, I have to stretch my image whenever I watch 16:9 as I really hate black bars (horizontal or vertical)...Selling a screen is NOT easy, so I wish this comes earlier. In any case, for those that is going to get the electric screen, go scope with masking!! smile.gif
post #1842 of 2609
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Originally Posted by chriscmore View Post

Yes, we have masking panel option for the S-SE Reference frame with the 4K material.
Cheers,
Chris

Great!

I'd assume will magnetically attach?

As soon as your back from the island, I'll give you a tinkle on the blower! biggrin.gif
post #1843 of 2609
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Originally Posted by doublewing11 View Post

Great!
I'd assume will magnetically attach?
As soon as your back from the island, I'll give you a tinkle on the blower! biggrin.gif

Yup, all magnets.

The first time I heard a customer say they wanted to do that to me, my inner eight year couldn't help from laugh at them. I told him I expected at least a glass of wine first, but he didn't understand. Different worlds...

Cheers,
Chris
post #1844 of 2609
Nice review out on Audioholics on the fixed frame Center Stage XD with the masking panels.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/projectors/projector-screens/seymour-fixed-frame-screen-masking

Cheers,
Chris
post #1845 of 2609
Chris. What is needed to install the panels on my current 2.35 XD screen if I order them. Will they pop right on?
post #1846 of 2609
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Originally Posted by chriscmore View Post

Yup, all magnets.
The first time I heard a customer say they wanted to do that to me, my inner eight year couldn't help from laugh at them. I told him I expected at least a glass of wine first, but he didn't understand. Different worlds...
Cheers,
Chris

I'm used to the islander lingo................my Mother was British and my cousins all live near Tip Tree/Maldon.

On other note,

I wonder if the XD or S-SE Enlightor can be made in an 1.89 format since I may be using the Sony 1000 for projector. Figuring 140 inches wide............put's it near 72 inches in height. Doable? I need to give you a call once you get back as I already have samples of both materials................pick your brain before I purchase.
post #1847 of 2609
I'm just about on the verge of ordering an Seymour electric center stage screen 'once I can decide if I want the optional masking' But I keep coming across 4K talk which has also got my attention. Question, if seated 15ft away from the screen is the 4K material less important?
post #1848 of 2609
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Originally Posted by bkeeler10 View Post

Does anyone know if the Seymour Screen Excellence Enlightor 2 screen is made with the same material as the CenterStage XD screen is? Thanks.
No. Enlightor2 is the same fabric that Screen Research uses.
post #1849 of 2609
Does anyone know if Chris is back in the States yet? I emailed him last week, but not had a reply yet so wondering if its because he is in the UK:)
post #1850 of 2609
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Originally Posted by Billybobjimbob View Post

Does anyone know if Chris is back in the States yet? I emailed him last week, but not had a reply yet so wondering if its because he is in the UK:)

Billybobjimbob....you having a laugh 'sammy'! smile.gif


I would send your inquiry again, Chris replied to my email's on Friday & Saturday.
Edited by magicj1 - 11/19/12 at 2:53am
post #1851 of 2609
Just re-sent the mail. I didnt get an error message so assumed it sent:rolleyes:
post #1852 of 2609
Hi Bill -

Reply sent. Here with bells on, just trying to get things caught up. smile.gif

Cheers,
Chris
post #1853 of 2609
Reply received, thankyou Chris smile.gif I'll be in touch shortly:cool:

Asif
post #1854 of 2609
This morning I ordered a 120" wide 16:9 AT Centre Stage screen with non acoustic 2.40 upper and lower masking panels. Due to the American Thanksgiving it doesn't sound like they will be shipped to Canada until December 4th.

I can hardly wait for them to arrive because some of my Seaton speakers were delivered about 30 minutes after I ordered my screen. What was delivered were the 2 F2's, 3 Cat12C's and the speaker stands - a 2 full skids worth. The 4 Cat8C's and stands (surrounds) won't be delivered for another 2 to 3 weeks. If my Epson 6020 projector arrives latter today or tomorrow, I'll be watching movies on a white bed sheet with a 3.2 sound system. LOL

BTW... I spoke to Chris when I ordered the screen and it was a pleasure dealing with him. He was very helpful and offered some suggestions when I told him that I was going hang the screen from the ceiling. Like everyone here has stated previously, he provides great customer service.
post #1855 of 2609
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Originally Posted by rx-8 View Post

Like everyone here has stated previously, he provides great customer service.

I'll agree with that. My screen is a custom size CIA screen and it was made exactly to spec, and shipped over to the UK to me. Excellent product accompanied by excellent service:)
post #1856 of 2609
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Originally Posted by magicj1 View Post

I'm just about on the verge of ordering an Seymour electric center stage screen 'once I can decide if I want the optional masking' But I keep coming across 4K talk which has also got my attention. Question, if seated 15ft away from the screen is the 4K material less important?

I don't see anything on the website about the masking option for the electric screens, can some one share a link?
post #1857 of 2609
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Originally Posted by sipester View Post

I don't see anything on the website about the masking option for the electric screens, can some one share a link?


Worth dropping Chris a line for further info.

But on the Seymour site/store/Retractable electric/Code M

masking.PNG 9k .PNG file
post #1858 of 2609
I am planning to use the Centerstage with 1.2 gain.

And the Sony VPL 50ES projector.

How big can I go? My room size is 19 feet wide x 20 feet length by 8 feet tall.

Also, if i went with scope 1.35:1, should i got as big as 180inch?

I guess the question is many fold:

1. Can the Sony projector project to such a large screen and still be watchable (lumens wise) with a 1.2 gain screen. (in a controlled cave)
2. Seating distance... will it be comfortable to wach on such large screen at the distance.

So, basically what is the recommended screen size for my scenario? Should I go scope or wide? If wide, I can probably go as big as 160 inch.

And if scope, do i need an anamorphic lens with the Sony? If so, how much would that set me back?
post #1859 of 2609
This :

http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

To determine what seating distance is recommanded for a given screen size (or what size is recommanded for a given distance).

This :

http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm

To determine if light output will be OK with your projector.

Have fun experimenting!
post #1860 of 2609
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Originally Posted by deromax View Post

This :
http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html
To determine what seating distance is recommanded for a given screen size (or what size is recommanded for a given distance).
This :
http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm
To determine if light output will be OK with your projector.
Have fun experimenting!

Ah, that's very helpful... thanks...

Looks like the maximum size I can go is about 150 inch diagonal. I was thinking of 180 diagonal...
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