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post #10201 of 10930
6/8/08 at 7:30am
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Also I thought the 2007 Panny line had 100,000 hour panels?


They do. The previous information is incorrect.
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post #10202 of 10930
6/8/08 at 8:15am
I must agree with using the vivid setting, that setting gives a sharper look to everything, even text is no longer blurry in this setting, I always wondered why all these other settings on this board made the scoreboard overlays on some sporting events look blurry then I switched to vivid and that sharpened up text on everything. I turned the picture settings down to 15 and the color down to 0, this setting seems to have the effect of turning black level to dark but not crushing the grays and shadow details of course the black level is set to light though, although leaving the default picture setting of 30 is a way too much on this mode.
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post #10203 of 10930
6/8/08 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by captaink5217 View Post

I must agree with using the vivid setting, that setting gives a sharper look to everything, even text is no longer blurry in this setting, I always wondered why all these other settings on this board made the scoreboard overlays on some sporting events look blurry then I switched to vivid and that sharpened up text on everything. I turned the picture settings down to 15 and the color down to 0, this setting seems to have the effect of turning black level to dark but not crushing the grays and shadow details of course the black level is set to light though, although leaving the default picture setting of 30 is a way too much on this mode.

I guess I am going to have to give Vivid another shot. Even though I like my current settings in Custom/Cinema.
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post #10204 of 10930
6/8/08 at 12:18pm
I bought a 42PX80u from Sears and the 42PZ700u from Costco. The costco one was a little more. I also put a PZ80u on hold.
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How do they compare? Which do you think is a better option? The PX80u is set up and looks ok. ThePZ700u is still at Costco waiting for delivery.

Thanks.
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post #10205 of 10930
6/8/08 at 3:29pm
Well I'm probably not one to help you because when I wanted to get my daughter a 42" for her bedroom I jumped when Costco had the PZ700 for $1,099.99 & would'nt even consider the PX80 because my thinking was a Top-Of-The-Line TV vs an Entry Level Model TV & it was a no-brainer for me.

If I were you I would ask yourself how am I going to use this TV. If your just going to throw it in a bedroom or family room & etc for casual viewing without hooking it up to a Surround Sound Receiver then I would get the PZ700 because of it's Great Sound Quality but if it's going to be your main TV hooked up to a Surround System then I would get the PZ700 & the PX80 & put them side by side in my house & then make my choice.
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post #10206 of 10930
6/8/08 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by shoreflor View Post

I bought a 42PX80u from Sears and the 42PZ700u from Costco. The costco one was a little more. I also put a PZ80u on hold.
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How do they compare? Which do you think is a better option? The PX80u is set up and looks ok. ThePZ700u is still at Costco waiting for delivery.

Thanks.

I would certainly agree with Bill regarding the sound quality (4 speakers of the PZ700 would most likely sound better than just the 2 in the PX80u or PZ80u) if you don't plan on using a surround system. Also if the price were the same, going with a 1080p would be your best bet. However, since you said the 720p (PX80u) model would cost you less than the 1080p (PZ700u) model, you want to consider whether you really need a 1080p set especially if your viewing distance will be 7' or greater and you don't have or plan on buying a Blu-Ray DVD player or PS3.
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post #10207 of 10930
6/9/08 at 7:01am
For those looking for maximum sharpness, also make sure you are on HD Size 2. Otherwise it will have to scale some to create teh overscan.
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post #10208 of 10930
6/9/08 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by goblin23 View Post

GregUMR and Trublu ... my bad, there is no "Pass Through" on the 8300HD. I was getting it mixed up with Dream Theater's cable box, the 3250HD.

The output setting - selecting 480p, 720p, 1080i is the equivilant to pass through. If you selected only 720p or 1080i the box would do the upconversion.

Sorry for the confusion.

--greg

is it ok if i only select 720p or 1080i for both sd and hd? im worried that 720 p on sd may effect picture. any thoughts? thanks...
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post #10209 of 10930
6/9/08 at 7:47am
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Originally Posted by Bill1313 View Post

Well I'm probably not one to help you because when I wanted to get my daughter a 42" for her bedroom I jumped when Costco had the PZ700 for $1,099.99 & would'nt even consider the PX80 because my thinking was a Top-Of-The-Line TV vs an Entry Level Model TV & it was a no-brainer for me.

If I were you I would ask yourself how am I going to use this TV. If your just going to throw it in a bedroom or family room & etc for casual viewing without hooking it up to a Surround Sound Receiver then I would get the PZ700 because of it's Great Sound Quality but if it's going to be your main TV hooked up to a Surround System then I would get the PZ700 & the PX80 & put them side by side in my house & then make my choice.

Thanks for your help. I thinks that's the way to go - comparison.
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post #10210 of 10930
6/9/08 at 8:07am
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Originally Posted by Bill1313 View Post

From what I've seen of Panasonic's VIVID mode I really like the SHARPNESS of the picture compared to the other picture modes & I hate to say it but to me the CINEMA mode is just WAY TOO SOFT & even turning up the sharpness control in ANY of the other picture modes won't get the picture as sharp as in the VIVID mode. I wish Panny would let us be able to have TOTAL CONTROL for the Sharpness Of The Pictue in each mode.

And while I'm thinking about it where & how did TV manufactures get in their heads that a "MOVIE" type setting should have a SOFT picture? because film is far from being SOFT, unless of course the director wants it that way.

Maybe this is a dumb question but if you use the VIVID picture mode with the Contrast & Brightness turned Way Down will it still do a number on the TV compared to using the other modes?

Also I thought the 2007 Panny line had 100,000 hour panels?

Cinema mode isn't any more or less sharp than vivid. I think that the increased contrast in vivid mode may fool the eye into thinking the image is sharper (more "pop"), but put up a test patten and I can almost guarantee that they'll both display the same about of picture detail.
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post #10211 of 10930
6/9/08 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

You can read about other Panny owners' repair experiences in the "Master thread for Panasonic plasma not turning on" thread here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1001318&page=2



Thanks Randy. (service person arrives tomorrow)
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post #10212 of 10930
6/9/08 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by jacobst View Post

is it ok if i only select 720p or 1080i for both sd and hd? im worried that 720 p on sd may effect picture. any thoughts? thanks...

You already asked this question on post #10208. As was suggested by several folks, your best bet is to just experiment and see which you like the best .. either letting the STB do the upscaling to 1080i or letting the Panny do it, either way the Panny is going to do the final upscaling to 1080p.
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post #10213 of 10930
6/9/08 at 3:51pm
It it is 720p the Panasonic will do scaling, if it is 1080i it will do de-interlacing.

If your cable cable box has pass-through odds are the Panasonic does both better.
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post #10214 of 10930
6/9/08 at 6:23pm
for the guys that have wall mounted their 58's what mount have you used and have you had any problems with it getting to warm being close to the wall?

im thinking of trying an armor mount anyone heard good or bad about them?
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post #10215 of 10930
6/9/08 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

It it is 720p the Panasonic will do scaling, if it is 1080i it will do de-interlacing.

If your cable cable box has pass-through odds are the Panasonic does both better.

Yes, thank you so much for that "technical" correction Gary, although in this case it's moot. However, as many of us have commented in the past, we believe the Panny does no better a job than the STB and having the STB do the upscaling provides for faster channel changing. In the end, it's up to each owner to experiment and determine for themselves which they prefer to do the upscaling.
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post #10216 of 10930
6/9/08 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by rpph View Post

I own a 58pz750u and enjoy it very much. I am well aware of all the cons of watching it 'VIVID' mode but I prefer watching that way. My question is - how long do you think my set will produce a good picture if I only watch in this mode? 1 year, 3 years,etc

Thanks...

I confirmed with Panasonic Concierge that the 100,000 hour 1/2 life of the PZ750 display is based on "Standard" mode usage. The rep had no figures on what the 1/2 life would drop to if the set was left in VIVID mode all the time. Perhaps one way to gather more information would be to check on local big box stores to see whether they've had a 700/750 display model (which are always on VIVID) for a year and see whether there has been any noticable degradation, although granted 1 year isn't much time.
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post #10217 of 10930
6/9/08 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

I confirmed with Panasonic Concierge that the 100,000 hour 1/2 life of the PZ750 display is based on "Standard" mode usage. The rep had no figures on what the 1/2 life would drop to if the set was left in VIVID mode all the time. Perhaps one way to gather more information would be to check on local big box stores to see whether they've had a 700/750 display model (which are always on VIVID) for a year and see whether there has been any noticable degradation, although granted 1 year isn't much time.


This is also probably with no adjustments to vivid mode, I now have mine set on vivid mode with the picture setting turned down to 12 and the brightness to 7 and that is actually not as bright as standard mode but the picture itself is sharper.
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post #10218 of 10930
6/9/08 at 11:41pm
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Originally Posted by chrisherbert View Post

Cinema mode isn't any more or less sharp than vivid. I think that the increased contrast in vivid mode may fool the eye into thinking the image is sharper (more "pop"), but put up a test patten and I can almost guarantee that they'll both display the same about of picture detail.


Well nevermind, I went back to cinema mode, while I do like the appeared sharpness in vivid mode the colors just look off, some of the faces appear to look like clay, I wish I could have the sharp look of vivid with the color combination of cinema. On another note is it just me or does the sharpness setting on this set only work in vivid mode, that setting seems to have no effect in any other mode other than vivid or am I imagining?
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post #10219 of 10930
6/10/08 at 4:44am
I need some quick advice, and to preface I've not been studying the latest Panny TV's on the market these days. I was one of the first through Panny EPP to get the 58pz750u Plasma last June. Soon after I had the panel replaced due to dead pixels. Now just a couple of weeks ago an entire row or band of pixels went away about an inch up from the bottom of the TV. So again the Panel gets replaced and now again I have some dead pixels near the center of the screen. So, Panny now wants to replace the entire TV with a new one.

So my advice question comes in, I don't believe they are selling this unit anymore, so what should I be expecting Panny to give me as a comparable replacement?

I will add, always owned Sony TV's before this and have one of their 42 inch Plasma's before they stopped making them and in 5 years not ONE issue. This really doesn't make me feel great about the quality of Panny TV's.
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post #10220 of 10930
6/10/08 at 5:56am
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Originally Posted by trae* View Post

for the guys that have wall mounted their 58's what mount have you used and have you had any problems with it getting to warm being close to the wall?

im thinking of trying an armor mount anyone heard good or bad about them?

I used a Peerless One Mount for mine and had no issues at all. In fact, just last night I was checking some temperatures around the house with my infra red thermometer and decided to see how much heat was coming off the thing. Seems like it was maybe 10-15 degrees above room temp all along the top back of the set and really no warmer anywhere else I could get a reading back there.
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post #10221 of 10930
6/10/08 at 8:26am
Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster. I have a question. I have owned a 50pz700u since last July and absolutely love it, but yesterday something strange happened. I was playing Battlefield: Bad Company on my xbox360 and after about two hours of playing I popped in Weeds season 3 in my ps3. I could still see the number 100 (health in the game) and the faint outline of some other numbers in the lower right hand corner. Now I am aware of image retention in plasmas but this is the first time that I have noticed anything of the sort on my set. I turned on my tv this morning and it is still faintly evident. Any advice on how to reduce the retention ( I am watching in standard with brightness turned down). Thanks for any advice.
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post #10222 of 10930
6/10/08 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by xshaqattaqx View Post

Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster. I have a question. I have owned a 50pz700u since last July and absolutely love it, but yesterday something strange happened. I was playing Battlefield: Bad Company on my xbox360 and after about two hours of playing I popped in Weeds season 3 in my ps3. I could still see the number 100 (health in the game) and the faint outline of some other numbers in the lower right hand corner. Now I am aware of image retention in plasmas but this is the first time that I have noticed anything of the sort on my set. I turned on my tv this morning and it is still faintly evident. Any advice on how to reduce the retention ( I am watching in standard with brightness turned down). Thanks for any advice.


It's standard image retention. It might be there for a while, maybe even a few days if you look for it very carefully (not too likely), but it'll fade.

The brightness control isn't going to help with IR -- only contrast is relevant. Set brightness to whatever you like and maybe lower the contrast a little if you want to avoid IR in the future. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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post #10223 of 10930
6/10/08 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yes, thank you so much for that "technical" correction Gary, although in this case it's moot. However, as many of us have commented in the past, we believe the Panny does no better a job than the STB and having the STB do the upscaling provides for faster channel changing. In the end, it's up to each owner to experiment and determine for themselves which they prefer to do the upscaling.

I agree. The 700u does a poor job of scaling 720p -- blurry, and with bleeding colors. My Scientific Atlanta cable box does it much, much better. As an added benefit, when the cable box converts to 1080i I can use Size 2 and eliminate overscan on 720p channels.
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post #10224 of 10930
6/10/08 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by captaink5217 View Post

Well nevermind, I went back to cinema mode, while I do like the appeared sharpness in vivid mode the colors just look off, some of the faces appear to look like clay, I wish I could have the sharp look of vivid with the color combination of cinema. On another note is it just me or does the sharpness setting on this set only work in vivid mode, that setting seems to have no effect in any other mode other than vivid or am I imagining?

I've never adjusted sharpness in vivid mode, but the sharpness control does little or nothing in Custom, Standard, and Cinema. This is really for the best, as sharpness only hurts image quality. I'm glad that a lot of newer TVs no longer have a useble sharpness setting.
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post #10225 of 10930
6/10/08 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by chrisherbert View Post

It's standard image retention. It might be there for a while, maybe even a few days if you look for it very carefully (not too likely), but it'll fade.

The brightness control isn't going to help with IR -- only contrast is relevant. Set brightness to whatever you like and maybe lower the contrast a little if you want to avoid IR in the future. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

OK cool I was freaking out a bit. Should I hold off on playing that particular game? I've played countless other games for way longer than the time I played yesterday and have never noticed any IR. Thanks for the info.
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post #10226 of 10930
6/10/08 at 11:38am
I owned Plasma Vizio, Plasma Panasonic 50 in TV. Questions:
1. Vizio 50 is very hot for the room
2. Panasonic TH-50PX6U is cool for the room.
3. Panasonic TH-50PE700U is hot for the room.

Did some one notice like that? Did someone measure the temp different for each model.
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post #10227 of 10930
6/10/08 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by captaink5217 View Post

Well nevermind, I went back to cinema mode, while I do like the appeared sharpness in vivid mode the colors just look off, some of the faces appear to look like clay, I wish I could have the sharp look of vivid with the color combination of cinema. On another note is it just me or does the sharpness setting on this set only work in vivid mode, that setting seems to have no effect in any other mode other than vivid or am I imagining?

captain...I was curious about the Vivid discussions as well...while I only use the Custom & Cinema modes, I have found that CNET's Custom setting mode for the 700U does a very nice color representation in Vivid mode...if you use the identical CNET settings recommended for Custom, Vivid looks pretty accurate color-wise...Vivid mode can add some desirable "pop" and sharpness (esp. to sporting events)...but Vivid also introduces more "noise" to the PQ.

My life is rather Vivid so I prefer my plasma HDTV experience to be a little easier on the eyes.
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post #10228 of 10930
6/11/08 at 11:43am
I have my 700U hooked up to a Yamaha Receiver via HDMI. Every few days, the TV "Hiccups." By that I mean, the sound goes out for a second and the picture blinks for a second or so. I then have to reboot the STB to get rid of this. Is this an issue of the Receiver having trouble shaking hands with the STB? Any suggestions, PLEASE
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post #10229 of 10930
6/11/08 at 11:50am
Try STB to the Panasonic directly and see.
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post #10230 of 10930
6/11/08 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Try STB to the Panasonic directly and see.

thanks, gary, ill give it a shot...
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